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Tech Tip: How To Replace an AR-15 Gas Key 

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@pauldowning3996
@pauldowning3996 Год назад
Meticulous attention to detailed craftsmanship and hair.
@ThePatriotParadox
@ThePatriotParadox Год назад
That's not just regular nitride, that's gotta be Melonite (QPQ) OR DLC coating.
@briankopp1369
@briankopp1369 Год назад
One of my mean quirks is to tease him about the brand of axle grease in his hair, I recommend green grease, my favorite for everything. Not joke green grease is the bomb.
@ThePatriotParadox
@ThePatriotParadox Год назад
@@briankopp1369 frog 🐸 lube is supposed to be awesome.AND GREEN..LOL...do you know about lube and cleaner? I got some Cleanzoil and says is degreases.. but also say good for finish and mainly cleaning AND lubrication? Seems to work well, but kinda sounded contradictory
@tedisabum
@tedisabum 28 дней назад
Caleb. Thank you for teaching me the things you've spent time learning over the years. This information is priceless and I think I can speak on behalf of almost everyone when I say that you are becoming a pillar in the industry.
@TheREALLibertyOrDeath
@TheREALLibertyOrDeath Год назад
School of the American Rifle
@brownells
@brownells Год назад
Chad is a great guy and good friend of ours.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle Год назад
​@@brownellsthank you very much. The sentiment is mutual.
@danikpew596
@danikpew596 7 месяцев назад
I can't even count the amount of times your channel has helped me. Top notch per usual. Thank you
@derekhall7610
@derekhall7610 Год назад
I love your teaching methods... now I know... and knowing is half the battle lol
@jdmznet
@jdmznet Год назад
Just don't forget the red lasers and blue lasers. ;-)
@derekhall7610
@derekhall7610 Год назад
@@jdmznet and no one ever got shot
@justinhoffmann4464
@justinhoffmann4464 Год назад
I'm a new gunsmith, and your video help me learn do this. So thank you very much. My instructor showed us how to make make this tool, but he did not show us how to stake this part.
@Docsporseen1
@Docsporseen1 Год назад
Just for added info, you should never use the Fix-It Sticks torque driver to loosen screws like he did. It messes up the torque settings and eliminates the warranty.
@stephen6640
@stephen6640 5 месяцев назад
Great catch 👍
@analogludite9575
@analogludite9575 4 месяца назад
I thought I saw him do that.🤔👍
@rdtowerberlin3995
@rdtowerberlin3995 Месяц назад
NEVER use a torque wrench/screwdriver to break torque.
@joesaad3089
@joesaad3089 Год назад
Watching this tutorial was a pleasure
@feedinc2735
@feedinc2735 Год назад
I'll be damned... I never knew so much went into a gas key. I've always bought complete BCGs. Good job.
@doejohn8674
@doejohn8674 Год назад
Excellent video, clear explanations as always!
@GodGunsGills
@GodGunsGills Год назад
I'd just buy a new entire bcg. This is a great video though brother
@scott2228
@scott2228 Год назад
Exactly what I was thinking. Then throw the old bolt carrier into my ever growing parts bin.
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 Год назад
I would just throw my rifle in the trash can and buy a new one.
@GodGunsGills
@GodGunsGills Год назад
@@timrobinson6573 🤣🤣🤣
@Sparks00psn
@Sparks00psn Год назад
@@timrobinson6573 🤡 🎉
@celtspear6903
@celtspear6903 Год назад
I was very impressed with that demonstration of how to correctly replace the gas key. I paused the video to go to the website and order the staking jig for myself. It seems like a common sense tool to have around if you enjoy working on and modifying guns as I do. Thanks again for the great demo!
@pistolgrips
@pistolgrips Год назад
Very thorough and easily understood. Thank you.
@georgemoomaw9437
@georgemoomaw9437 Год назад
ANOTHER great, informative instructional video from Brownells
@douglass69
@douglass69 Год назад
It would be really nice for I think most of us if you would put a still shot close up in the corner while you’re talking about the parts.
@ocd_ar1598
@ocd_ar1598 10 месяцев назад
Great video as usual, thank you- the other sealant often used while installing the gas key is Permatex Aviation Form a Gasket (#80019). Steer clear of getting anywhere near the gas hole with this sealant.
@chrisd5758
@chrisd5758 5 месяцев назад
Considering it goes around the gas hole, it's going to be near it.
@TriggaTrey361
@TriggaTrey361 3 месяца назад
@@chrisd5758lol just compress air it out
@Z7d3nR4
@Z7d3nR4 Год назад
Nice video. Thanks, Bob. Glad you didn't have any happy accidents.
@generallee4043
@generallee4043 Год назад
Young manufacturing produces some of the highest quality bolt carriers and proves that there’s no need to stake a gas key if torqued to 59 inch pounds
@Ash_95
@Ash_95 Год назад
Takeaway is never be satisfied with a cheap screw. Go for the quality which, apparently, Brownells can hook you up with.
@bdf429
@bdf429 Год назад
I just discovered that several companies make an adjustable AR-15 Gas Key and Brownells has one for sale. I would be very interested in seeing a video about these keys and what makes a good adjustable key specify how is the adjustment locked and secured to not move after it is set.
@chrishesotian1654
@chrishesotian1654 Год назад
this is exactly how Chad from School of the American Rifle teaches it!
@tonykees9044
@tonykees9044 Год назад
Thanks for the lesson
@omarponce9412
@omarponce9412 Год назад
nice and clear. good job.
@henrycalhoun5809
@henrycalhoun5809 Год назад
An excellent presentation. I now know I need to learn more.
@theOriginal_ex811
@theOriginal_ex811 Год назад
Really digging on your happy little trees, man.
@maverick9708
@maverick9708 Год назад
Note that if you lap your gas key it's important to apply even pressure. Also I think the other sealant people like is the Indian head gasket shellac
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 Год назад
Say what you want to about bedding looser fit extensions.. it works. I only needed to do it once but an instant reduction in groups from 1.5-1.75" to 1" told me all I needed to know. Later used that (reputable higher end brand) upper in a different build and the barrel popped right out with a wooden dowell and a single smack with a mallet. It worked for the a Army Marksmanship Unit, and it worked for me. Then again I think you know this, you just like the free comment you get every time you mention it :-D You're right everywhere else on loctite though. It's important to remember that 638 and it's cousins aren't a threadlocker.. just a heat resistant "gap filler" Bubbas out there have defiled the Loctite name lol.
@hairydogstail
@hairydogstail Год назад
The barrel nut constricts the upper barrel channel around the barrel extension, much like a muzzle device will constrict the bore with higher torque..I have seen .003 constriction with 50+ barrel nut torque.. Considering most modern machined uppers are under mil spec 1.00 to +.002 and run tighter from .9990 to .9980, the mill spec barrel extension tolerance is .9987 to -.0008, the constriction itself is more than enough to stabilize the barrel..Throw in a thermal fit upper .9960 and it is quite redundant IMO to bed the barrel..Sloppy milled uppers is another story all together where shims come into play..The other side of the coin is it doesn't hurt anything other than making it harder to remove the barrel..
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 Год назад
@@hairydogstail That one barrel/upper combo was the only one that "needed" it, and it certainly worked. With the number of manufacturers we have out there it's bound to happen eventually to anyone who builds enough guns. Handy trick to have in the toolbox.. plus if I need to tighten up a bearing on a piece of farm equipment I still have most of a bottle.
@wc4201
@wc4201 Год назад
Great vid. Thx
@Beanmachine9198
@Beanmachine9198 Год назад
Excellent my friend, you need to come home, get some S. Louisiana sun, and give me some tips on a very old AMT 380 BU😎
@rustytaylor7708
@rustytaylor7708 Год назад
Great video
@stephen6640
@stephen6640 5 месяцев назад
Nice video, one SAFETY concern though. When using compressed fluids or gasses you really need to wear safety glasses. Oul in the eye sucks.
@charleshurley2582
@charleshurley2582 Год назад
Great video. BOUGHT THIS TOOL FROM BROWNELLS SEVERAL YEARS TO HAVE, "JUST IN CASE".. NOW I KNOW HOW TO USE, WHEN NEEDED THANKS...
@chrissewell1608
@chrissewell1608 Год назад
Replace it with an Unobtainium model! They are WAY FASTER!
@arlissyoung8899
@arlissyoung8899 Год назад
Don't worry, I didn't know we had so many Super Master AR Rifle builders in the U S. I am amazed at the number of people. Well I build rifles all the time, I have built thousands of ARs, On my next Super AR build I, On my last Super AR build, I only use Super part so and so on ALL my AR builds, Then the super list of ALL PARTS are listed down to the oil used when finished. Then there's the line of people standing outside their door, I need you to build me another Super AR, That's the best one ever. I can't believe retail stores are even able to sale ARs we have so many Super Master AR Builders. On my next build, On my last build.
@brownells
@brownells Год назад
Beautiful poem...
@hairydogstail
@hairydogstail Год назад
How do you say I don't understand the AR platform without saying it?
@toddparsons2980
@toddparsons2980 Год назад
Very informative.
@Akilles3
@Akilles3 Год назад
Solid info as always, thanks Brownells. RPG in the safe... 👀
@hairydogstail
@hairydogstail Год назад
Mill spec for the gas key is Permatex's Aviation Form-A-Gasket No. 3 Sealant Liquid..I still prefer Green loctite as it seals better IMO..
@64samsky
@64samsky Год назад
Thank you!
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 Год назад
Can you do a video on when it is appropriate to use Loc Tite on an AR? Larry Potterfield, the owner of Midway USA, who is a master gunsmith, put out a series of videos about 10 years ago on how to build an AR. He used Loc Tite throughout the build.
@brownells
@brownells Год назад
We did it, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sVDR-AruzMQ.html. Yes, the Midway video is considered wrong by many industry professionals.
@semper.fidellis
@semper.fidellis Год назад
@@brownellsshots fired! 💥
@donaldhollingsworth3875
@donaldhollingsworth3875 Год назад
What grit of stone(s) are you using? As a machinist, we used stones on tables & face plates along with the fixtures.
@ralphjohnson8775
@ralphjohnson8775 Год назад
That's a really nice stone for that job. I might pick 1 up sometime. I use 620 locktite on my gas keys and break cleaner non c Version to clean Under the gas key dont forget the gloves.
@para1324
@para1324 Год назад
Watched on U Tube. Well done great explanation. Appreciated. 👌👏
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 Год назад
Ummm, this is You Tube 😂
@custom20chevy
@custom20chevy Год назад
Thanks for the quick tip! (3 hours later.....spongebob) Excellent video as usual Caleb
@toddm9501
@toddm9501 Год назад
Great Job!
@CalebDor
@CalebDor Год назад
Very good presentation. I had wondered what the procedure was for replacing a gas key correctly on an AR-15. Thank you. By the way, is that an AT-4 in the open locker in the background? I haven't seen one of those in years. Take care each of you!
@5jjt
@5jjt 6 месяцев назад
Remember, "wet" torque value is about 25-30% below "dry" torque values.
@ssnydess6787
@ssnydess6787 Год назад
I love your videos; taking us to the next level. How about using some glass and lapping compound?
@cd4498
@cd4498 Год назад
I had a gas key come loose once. I retorqued them by feel and went over the stakes with a screwdriver ice pick punch thing i had laying around then marked the screws for future reference. Hopefully she holds but so far so good.
@williamwinn948
@williamwinn948 Год назад
You can use a diamond stone to level your regular stones.
@jamesrobertsable
@jamesrobertsable 10 месяцев назад
thank you sir.
@ryanthorne5432
@ryanthorne5432 Год назад
I’m looking at TM 9-1005-319-23&P, and there is not any thread locker specified. This does not mean that thread isn’t a good idea, however. There is a specification on staking, which calls for 0.025 inches, or less, of metal protruding above the surface. One thing I didn’t hear Caleb say is that carbon will create the final seal between the gas key and the bolt carrier body. If you have to manually cycle the first few rounds after replacing the gas key, that doesn’t mean you messed up. Give it up to 8 rounds before you decide that the replacement of the gas key is a failure.
@deezTX
@deezTX 11 месяцев назад
nice job
@jerryparker5137
@jerryparker5137 Месяц назад
I always replaced the screws with new ones
@chrissewell1608
@chrissewell1608 Год назад
Tac weld it on there buddy!
@krugerdw
@krugerdw Год назад
This might be a stupid question, but is it a bad idea to use a torque limiter when you’re breaking a bolt loose?
@Docsporseen1
@Docsporseen1 Год назад
Yes. Fix-It Sticks notes that in the instructions.
@AndrewTPewPew
@AndrewTPewPew Год назад
What grit are the India stones you use for that work? Great vid btw! More content like this please :)
@Captain_Spaulding_01
@Captain_Spaulding_01 Год назад
1000g would be ideal
@cliffcollins2497
@cliffcollins2497 Год назад
Finer than frog hair. Thank you and take care!
@jerryparker5137
@jerryparker5137 Месяц назад
I replaced a lot of gas keys but its been a long time since I have replaced or installed a gas key. I just need a review
@steemerxaxon1643
@steemerxaxon1643 2 месяца назад
Just put the RED Locktite on the bottom & Screws & NO WORRIES
@tractormanx5954
@tractormanx5954 Год назад
I would think you would mic it before and after to see how much you actually take off
@brownells
@brownells Год назад
Why? Flat is flat.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle Год назад
Tractormanx5954 I'll bite. Tell everyone how much is too much.
@slister1911
@slister1911 11 месяцев назад
Truing the carrier key removes the protective phosphate and is not necessary, nor mil-spec. Colt doesn't do it, FN doesn't do it, no major manufacturer does this. That's the whole point of the Permatex No. 3D Aviation Form-A-Gasket liquid. Also, the Key and Bolt Carrier Assembly Drawing 8448505 specifically states that the Form-A-Gasket is to be applied around the gas hole only on the carrier prior to assembly, not around the key screw holes (Note 2). Whether the method in this video is superior to the M4 drawing spec, and the millions of carriers that have been assembled accordingly, is up to you to determine.
@brianleabo6295
@brianleabo6295 7 месяцев назад
My ocd would kill me with this
@mnrodriguez
@mnrodriguez 8 месяцев назад
Awesome!
@Chef-James
@Chef-James 4 месяца назад
I like the torque wrench. You can back out screws with it?
@oscarpuente2029
@oscarpuente2029 9 месяцев назад
outstanding
@cheeto4240
@cheeto4240 Год назад
could you do a video on keyholing and potential causes?
@RobinP556
@RobinP556 Год назад
So, serious question. You’ve put time and attention to making sure that the flat on the gas key is perfectly flat but done nothing to the bolt carrier, why do the work to the gas key? I know that the 638 takes up any gap, it just seems like paying that much attention to the gas key but not the bolt carrier is lost time.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle Год назад
50% improvement is better than good enough.
@mrshort2379
@mrshort2379 Год назад
great info great content: I have to ask though what are your thoughts on an adjustable gas key, such as benefits and pro's & cons?
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 Год назад
Do you mean adjustable gas block?
@Pyreleaf
@Pyreleaf Год назад
I know you're not asking me, but in my admittedly amateur opinion, I would think if you want to regulate your gas pressure, you're almost always better off sticking with an adjustable gas block, just because it's much easier to access and make adjustments.
@chriscox5568
@chriscox5568 6 месяцев назад
I hate to throw a negative comment on your video and alot of your other videos too but your cameramans recordings have a lot to be desired. He never gets up close and tight with his shots so everybody can see everything just like we all was therewith our eye's about eight inches from what your showing us what your doing ! He needs to get in there extremely close with the zoom lens so we can see and have plenty of light in the darkened areas too or your just waisting your time and ours too !
@mangamaniaciam
@mangamaniaciam 7 месяцев назад
Mr. Caleb: Would you recommend DMT extra fine diamond stones for this leveling process? I know that the diamond stones are the most level surfaced materials made. And getting the bolt carrier group level is a must.
@tomsakowski1162
@tomsakowski1162 Год назад
How would you stake a key for a AR308/AR10?
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 Год назад
Exactly the same only completely different 😂
@seafarermarinesupply9869
@seafarermarinesupply9869 Год назад
638 is anerobic. any thing exposed to air will not cure, its only good to 350f. im sure that key sees way higher temps than that when mag dumoing or even tust 30 round strings.
@feskymaloon1439
@feskymaloon1439 Год назад
The gas key doesn’t get that hot. I’ve pulled the BCG out immediately after 2x 30rd dumps and I could handle it by hand. I don’t know WHY it doesn’t get that hot, but it doesn’t.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 8 месяцев назад
I always put on nitrile gloves before using Gun Scrubber. That stuff works great but has some seriously nasty chemicals.
@FierceMouse
@FierceMouse Год назад
$99 SALE--Brownells chrome BCG with/without serrations (both m16 and ar15, so get right one) I do not work for Brownells, I just like good BCGs
@shadowsteel11
@shadowsteel11 11 дней назад
What type of grit for the India stone?
@masonj0627
@masonj0627 5 месяцев назад
Using a Fix-It Stick torque limiter to loosen the gas key screws? Say it isn’t so? 😳
@johnphillips222
@johnphillips222 Год назад
This is so funny. Loctite 510 used as a flange sealant, not some retaining compound.
@JJheadcharge
@JJheadcharge 8 месяцев назад
So, for the price of a new gas key, staking jig, stone, etc. might as well just buy a new BCG
@brownells
@brownells 8 месяцев назад
Yes, unless you have a KAC Sandcutter, like the one used in the video or plan on repairing multiple.
@evanacey1414
@evanacey1414 Год назад
The best fasteners for your gas keys are Michiguns OCKS (optimized carrier key screws). IYKYK
@Hitmanheart4
@Hitmanheart4 5 дней назад
That was ignorant. Why is there locktite in my bolt was my actual next question lmao
@jackieow
@jackieow Год назад
Loctite says #638 takes a primer, so why aren't you using a primer?
@Iceaxehikes
@Iceaxehikes Год назад
I tried to tighten the gas key on my Mini 14 and realized; the superior design of the Ruger Mini 14 doesn't require a gas key. Hmm.
@Xion431
@Xion431 3 месяца назад
what kind of grind stone is that?
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 Год назад
What is that nifty bit driver? Nvm found Fix It Sticks - not sure if it’s any better than the Wheeler Fat Wrench I already have.
@matthewdropco
@matthewdropco Год назад
What grade of Steel wool? Thx!
@brownells
@brownells Год назад
#0000
@matthewdropco
@matthewdropco Год назад
@@brownells Thx!!!
@5thPlaceAce
@5thPlaceAce Год назад
Did somebody say Steak!?
@jebbuhdiah-dean
@jebbuhdiah-dean Год назад
@brownells Thoughts on/experience with the Optimized Carrier Key Screw (O.C.K.S.)?
@shawnparrish1999
@shawnparrish1999 Год назад
How do you know the carrier side is completely flat?
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run Год назад
You don't that' why you use Loctite as a gasket. You could get a small straight edge & see if it's COMPLETELY FLAT. I use a STARRETT 6" ruler.
@JohnFree007
@JohnFree007 Год назад
Just buy a new bolt carrier!😅😅
@JohnTBlock
@JohnTBlock Год назад
You've stoned the key bottom, BUT, what if it's channel on the bolt carrier is not flat?
@slister1911
@slister1911 11 месяцев назад
It's not perfectly flat, but it's flat enough that the Form-A-Gasket makes a seal around the gas hole. This truing of the carrier key is not necessary.
@sportsmanslegacy
@sportsmanslegacy 7 месяцев назад
Is the new gas key not CNC machined? How is it that the stone gets it flatter than the cnc machine
@jasoncarson8606
@jasoncarson8606 4 месяца назад
machining tolerances vs water jet cutting tolerances.
@adventurfly879
@adventurfly879 11 месяцев назад
I saw the bolt carrier you were working on and my insides were screaming noooooooooooo! Those arent easy to find and arent cheap
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, but if it eases your pain, this one is non-serviceable. There is a ring in the bolt channel that tears up gas rings, so we had to decommission it.
@adventurfly879
@adventurfly879 11 месяцев назад
@@CalebSavant oh, thank god.
@Ordieguy95
@Ordieguy95 Год назад
What is a good bolt carrier group.
@ovclay
@ovclay 3 месяца назад
Where do I find that tool kit used in this video?
@C_oprator89
@C_oprator89 Год назад
Them yfs bolts? I know I know
@davetremaine9763
@davetremaine9763 Год назад
Just clicked on the video, if I don't see Linus I'll be very upset.
@warthogjj
@warthogjj 10 месяцев назад
What grit is your India stone???
@mawilkinson1957
@mawilkinson1957 Год назад
I can't see where you would ever, have to change your gas key. Simply maintain the original. Keep it clean.
@scaler1179
@scaler1179 Год назад
Besides staking, I also use Rocksett on the screens. Unlike red Loctite, Rocksett is designed to be heat resistant.
@TheDiameter
@TheDiameter Год назад
You have melted your gas block or warped your barrel before you’ve degraded red locktite on the bolts of a gas key… or you’re on your 10k round mark
@scaler1179
@scaler1179 Год назад
@@TheDiameter or firing full auto... a lot.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle Год назад
If you shear a screw and use threadlockers, it's harder to remove the broken fastener.
@torito90
@torito90 Год назад
Can anyone help tell me what torque screwdriver he was using in this video. Thanks in advance?
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 8 месяцев назад
Fix it Sticks.
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