Tech Tip Thursday - Applying Zinc Outer Bar To Stained Glass V150 

Omg! That piece with the face and the crazy hair💕💕💕💕🌈🌈

Great video. Been doing stained glass for 40 years but I find that I can always learn something new. Thanks for putting on such an excellent instructional video.

Thank you for the videos! You do really amazing work. Those pieces in your home are beautiful. I love those panels by the door!

Thank you! One of my main struggles is the framing and I always felt I had to do the angled corners, after watching this video I will not do those anymore. Much less stressful. Love your videos and they have helped me so much.

I really enjoy your videos! I used your tip on squaring the corners versus a 45 degree miter and it works beautifully. Having the opening in the top corner is helpful for adding the metal insert I use for hanging. It also made it possible for me to add wire inside the zinc all along the the two sides and bottom of the panel with the wire ends connecting to the hangers. I thought this would decrease the chance the hanging hardware would cause the came to pull away.

this was so helpful today. It was particularly useful to know about spreading the channel with the fid! I've only used zinc with lead projects so that is EXACTLY the type of tip I needed to hear! Thank you!

I like your video on zinc came, but I bought a Mighty Mite 4" table saw at Harbor Freight on your recommendation, and it's a piece of junk...and I couldn't even get the large, aluminum nuts loosened to change the blade. So I haven't been able to even try it on the zinc, but I watched a couple reviews of people trying to cut wood and stone with different blades, and it performed horribly. I'm returning it, which means a two-hour round trip. I was so excited about having an easy way to cut the came. What I ended up doing is using a jig-saw with a blade suitable for metal. Not ideal, but it works.

I liked the jig for hold up the panel. Great tips!

Thank you for showing me a better way to add zinc came than what I was doing.

Excellent tutorial. Best I’ve found!

Thanks for your videos you have shown great technical support, I am just waiting for a course to start by were I live, and am eager to start, your videos are oh so useful to me. Thank you for showing the does and don't.

Your tutorials have answered many questions! Thank you!

This was very clear and informative Thank you Patricia

I am going to start simple to learn the trade, eventually I want to make my large mandala zen that is on my wall, I think it would be lovely in sunlight.

That is a good idea to heat up the zinc as it is so stubborn to take solder. What also helps me a bit is using fine steel wool to clean the surface before fluxing.

Thank you this was so informative to me. I had trouble with my zinc pulling away from the panel after three years of hanging and now I know what to do to fix it.

Excellent video

Nice job!

Love my 45 degree angles. 😊

Wow, thanks so helpful! I've spent hours trying to find out about framing, Zinc or lead? What size, confusing! Ya got my support, subscriber from Florida.

What an educational video. Thank you so much💗

I appreciate the comment that you guys supply!! I'm on the hobbyist side of this art! 😁I recently created an address sign for my mom, and I really wanted it framed and backlit so that I can hang it outside. Would you two happen to have any content or ideas on executing a piece such as this? Thanks for the very helpful videos!

Thanks you sir!

Thank you 🎉

Great video, can’t wait to try this.

I really love and appreciate your videos! It would be so great if you could do one on framing with wood!

Great video! Thank you!

thanks David, another great training video

Maravillosa clase. Gracias

love the vidio. my question is what is the most se ure way to add hangers to the zinc framing on a heavy piece. say 44inch x 13inch thanks

Great video. Just started doing stained glass and was wondering how to better strengthen my outer edges and give a finished look. Thanks.

Thanks for your teaching. Is it possible to show how you install the work on the windows? I would love to Lear that. Thanks again.

Would you do a you tube (if you haven't already) on the type of hooks you put on those big stained glass projects!

Great tips. Thanks!

Nice sir

Dear Jeannie and David, Our names are Marina and George, and after taking a couple of stained glass classes, and watching numerous of your RU-vid videos, we are working on our very first project. We are making a window panel, we chose the diamond shape for most of our background, and we are thinking in "framing" the diamonds with two rows of glass, the first one, closest to the diamonds is 2 inches (most are divided in halves and quarters), the outer about 1 3/8 -1 7/16 inches strips. We are planning in "sliding" the panel into the frame of our new window we just had installed. We would like to ask four questions: 1. Would it be best to: 1. Re-enforce the panel inserting the copper re-strip in two diagonal lines, running parallel from each other, from the top left to the right side of the panel approximately 4-5 inches from the bottom...? 2. Re-enforce the panel running the copper re-strips from top to bottom, diagonal, forming a cross, intersecting in the middle of the panel. We watched your video where you show we fold the strip in the intersection also you show how we need to be sure to fold the re-strip at the very end instead of cutting it right at the border. 2. Would our panel be in jeopardy if the out most border in all four sides are as narrow as 1 3/8 -1 7/16 inches...? 3. If our window must measure exactly 26 inches by 50 inches, how much should we allow for the 1/4 inch U zinc came 4. Although we have noticed all stained glass work is installed in the inside of a window, the glass man who installed our window tells us he is planning in installing, "sliding", our stained glass panel in the outside of the window. His reasoning is that the wind comes strong directly into the window and he believes the 4mm glass in back would help supporting it. Have you ever heard of that. Any thoughts...?

Hi David, thank you for your awesome classes. If you do not have a wooden frame how do you make hooks to hang glass framed in zinc? Thank you.

Hello! Thanks so much for the tutorial, it is very valuable info. I have a piece of painted glass and have to put a zinc bar around in order to hang it but it does not have cooper foil spots tu sudder to. Do I hace to put copper foil and flux to the entire sides before placing the zinc bars to sudder it? Thanks again for your help!

Hi can you please tell me what tools and equipment should I need to start with making stain glass that will help me through the years, that are a must have, am 61 years old this November and never had a hobby, they do say your never to old to learn.

I needed to find this video 2 weeks ago... I did a small 45 degree frame and it took me 2 hours to cut it right and a full bar of 1/4 came due to mistakes

Hi David, love this about zink came, in the UK I am having great difficulty finding this, it is to strengthen the Jenick style lamp shade I am making, and brass and copper are very expensive, so wondered is there any other materials I could use, I flattened some copper wire, it works, but it looks unsightly, open to any suggestions, thank you

Thank you for explaining adding the zink bar/frame. I am only on my 2nd project and am already tackling an old window with 3 panes. I have 2 questions: A. Would you add the zink around the stained glass for each single pane? B. I am tempted to leave the original glass in the old window (after removing old caulk and cleaning the old glass). I may put the end product on my front porch and wonder if there is double glass, moisture could get in between the old pane and the new stained glass pane on top.

I really like the Nativity scene piece. Do you happen to sell the pattern?

How large a window can be done in foil rather than lead? Appreciate learning how to do Zinc outer bars.

I forgot to tel you Im trying to make a lamp. Hope you help me.with my problem.

Love your videos. I think that you foil all around each glass piece, even when it will be on an edge where the zinc channel will be. Is this necessary?

I have a question. If you are making a window with specific measurements, how much length and width does the zinc outer bar add to the measurements>

Thanks so much for this. I'm getting ready to try my first came piece. now that I've watched this video enough to feel confident enough try ( much thanks to you) I have a question. I noticed you said to be careful not too get a big blob of shoulder on came and the only way to fix is to remove the zinc. I'm curious as to why shoulder can't be removed with iron same as when over shouldering the glass?

This video has been more helpful than any other I've watched on youtube so far. Thank you so very much for the tips. I do have a question for you.. I have started painting stain glass and need to solder a frame around my glass but I only have the corners to solder. Will that be strong enough to hang from it?

I do have a problem. When I put the pieces together I add the flax. Then I sadder. And the tape whither the sadder came of .why is it because I add to much flux or not enough?what I'm doing wrong?

How do you attach the chain to hang the window?

If I am going to put a panel outside, should I leave the ends of the zinc side pieces unsealed, to allow moisture to escape? (Sometimes called weep holes)

So the DAP silicone goes in AFTER zinc bars are soldered?

Great video...I am building a panael 36" x 44" adding restrip . Is it better to install zinc frame on first side beore flipping or soldering both sides before framing. Also any flipping tips?

Need some suggestions on how to replace a broken mirror, inside a floral 4" wide stained glass outer frame. It is a leaded design, round, that has H channel between the mirror and the glass design pieces. There is no backing board. I'm thinking it would be almost impossible without destroying the outside glass border.

I have black patina for lead, but I noticed that there is patina for lead and zinc. can I use my patina for lead on one of these zinc frames?

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love your videos! How do you stain the zinc edge dark if not using a wooden frame?

Great video I would love to purchase the Mighty Mit Saw and you said you need a special blade. What would that blade be ?

Please put info about zinc saw in chat. Harbor Freight carries a Mighty Might but does not know what blade to recommend. Comes with a 4” blade not recommended for metal. TY

What kind of hangers do you use?

What kind of wood do you prefer to use under your glass projects that makes the nails stay in place?

Do you ever stretch your came? i saw in one video that it was suppose to make it stronger. thanks for your wonderful explanations. i just liked and subscribed Cant wait to see more.

Im learning all about this as i want to incorporate my art with some glass work. Your videos are helpful. Im just unsure of one thing - if i want to paint on a circular glass piece, how can i finish the edges? My vision is still developing but im thinking one single circle piece or two soldered circle pieces together. Are zinc bars not suitable to a rounded edge?

I found the Mighty Mite at Harbor Freight just like you said! Thanks so much! but searched Delphi and found 3 "Came saw replacement blades" 7355HDR, and 2 by Gryphon 84122 and 84121. will any of them work?

Thank you! Do you have any advice for measuring when you are doing a window insert? I seem to struggle!

I want to sandwich a 30”x30” stained glass (100 pieces) project in between tempered glass and then add a frame. Do you have video teaching that?

Hi dear, I have a question, How much dimension of inner side of The lead came that u use in your work and which thickness of glass use with it? If inner is 4 mm can we send 4 mm glass or should be less than 4 mm glass? Thank you in advance

If the glass is going to be installed in a wooden window does it need the zinc bar?

Great tips ! where is the link?

Need some advice on oxidation of the zinc, can it be removed? Thank you

Are you able to solder after a black patina has been applied or do I need to try and remove the patina first (as much as possible)?

My project is 45×27.5 so if I use 3/4 ..inch zinc how much clearance do I cut off my design to accommodate the frame to fit in this opening? This is only the 2nd custom piece I've made that has to fit the opening and I'm scared.thanks for your help Shannon

How do you solder the rings on the frame?

How do you attach the hangers?

haha your finger will heal but your glass won't!That was funny but great advice! haha its worth a little suffering for your art

What liquid did you put on your sponge for cleaning your solder iron tip?

After adding the zinc came edging, did you apply putty and whiting to that edge or not?

do you always solder all your beads before adding your zinc border

I thought that you were supposed to tin all the copper foil. However, I see that you didn't tin the copper foil on the edges, where the zinc goes. Is that in case you may need to trim the copper foil after the zinc is soldered on?

What solder are you using? 60/40?

This is the saw I purchased from Harbor freight for zinc came. It has a guide for 90 degree cuts and it also works with angles. The blade that came with it works great with zinc. www.harborfreight.com/2-in-mini-bench-top-cut-off-saw-62136.html?_br_psugg_q=cutoff+saw