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Teenager Trapped in Minivan is Abandoned After Calling 911 | Kyle Plush Case Analysis 

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@ButchJoestar
@ButchJoestar 10 месяцев назад
My heart was racing despite knowing how this would end. He said where he was, the make and model of the car, he needed help…he did every thing right. How awful…
@lf9341
@lf9341 10 месяцев назад
One of the saddest things I have heard....:(
@kincaiddavidia7211
@kincaiddavidia7211 5 месяцев назад
That's why I never play tennis alone 😔
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 10 месяцев назад
I feel SICK that his father found his body.
@WolfandCatUnite
@WolfandCatUnite 9 месяцев назад
it is so sad
@shutupkarl5389
@shutupkarl5389 9 месяцев назад
@@WolfandCatUnite affirmitive action . then we are the racists for moving away haha
@beyondbackwater4933
@beyondbackwater4933 7 месяцев назад
​@@shutupkarl5389 blacks are destroying America
@uggggggghhhhh
@uggggggghhhhh 6 месяцев назад
Im sad that his mother probably listened to his call for help and last wish to tell her that he loved her.
@RichardCorongiu
@RichardCorongiu 5 месяцев назад
Same here.. I don't cry that much..but this...
@Redwood_Rambler
@Redwood_Rambler 10 месяцев назад
Amber, Stephanie and the two officers need to be fired. This kind of crap is unacceptable and vile.
@zooski1516
@zooski1516 10 месяцев назад
Poor kid. 4 months old and parents must have dropped him and broke his spinal cord. Now this. Rip.
@piotrekszczepanski5125
@piotrekszczepanski5125 10 месяцев назад
Fired? They need serious time in prison to contemplate what they have done. And the city administrators that cleared them of all wrongdoing need to be in there with them to contemplate what they have done. And the 6 million should come from them, NOT from the taxpayers. Where is the accountability??????
@piotrekszczepanski5125
@piotrekszczepanski5125 10 месяцев назад
@@zooski1516 Hell of a thing to speculate about. You have absolutely no idea how his spine was broken at 4 months old, so better just shut up eh?
@darc4858
@darc4858 10 месяцев назад
@@piotrekszczepanski5125 I couldn’t agree more!!!
@bobbit5670
@bobbit5670 10 месяцев назад
They should be CHARGED!! 😢 what would you think is a just outcome if this poor baby was your child??
@elizabethhamm5320
@elizabethhamm5320 10 месяцев назад
Heartbreaking. He told the operator to tell his mother that he loved her if he died. They could have saved the poor kid. A kid who wanted to be an Eagle Scout when he got older and thrived despite a disability. Everyone involved should be fired. The officer, the dispatchers and the higher ups who were willing to let these individuals escape accountability
@mistrjt9213
@mistrjt9213 10 месяцев назад
Such a bright young kid that understood mortality.
@paulavitoria1798
@paulavitoria1798 10 месяцев назад
Yes, he did mentioned his own death! That alone should be enough to get everybody on their toes, doing everything possible to find him and save him!
@ParentingIsPlanning
@ParentingIsPlanning 10 месяцев назад
I was raised by my parents to complete every task with care and to be impeccable. I’ve had four different careers and had always went above and beyond. The failures of police and operators are a disgrace. This boy couid have grown into a wonderful and hesrtworking man but unfortunately he exposed the incomparable incompetence of this group of human beings. The money was paid to his grieving family by the tax payers as usual. I think that law enforcement jobs should require personal liability insurance so that these workers could be as accountable as hairstylists and plumbers. Otherwise, we will continue to experience low level performances, negligence and neglect and stories like this tragedy will prevail. RIP, Carl.
@loraglick5745
@loraglick5745 10 месяцев назад
The personal liability insurance idea is an excellent one. Should be implemented immediately-but it won’t
@princesskileyrae
@princesskileyrae 10 месяцев назад
I said something similar before my full cardiac arrest in 2018 to the paramedics. My mother was on the phone with them & they weren't registering the grave seriousness of the situation. I did. "Tell my mom, Nana, & Grandpa that I love them & I'm sorry." I didn't stay dead though, so instead I get to try to make sense of an NDE & why tf I'm still here until death creeps back up. I also had the distinct thought, "Well, I've had a pretty crazy life & made it past 25..."
@OffWhiteDaz
@OffWhiteDaz 10 месяцев назад
You've got to feel sorry for this kid and his family. He did everything right to save himself but still died a horrible and preventable death. Just a sad outcome considering how easily he could have been saved
@mistrjt9213
@mistrjt9213 10 месяцев назад
Why would they look everywhere but there?? 🤦🏻 If the cops don’t want to take their jobs seriously, then leave it for others who will.
@loraglick5745
@loraglick5745 10 месяцев назад
Agreed. Absolutely heartbreaking because it was so ridiculously senseless. Such a good kid …. Such callous and inhumane emergency responders!!!
@Shutityou
@Shutityou 10 месяцев назад
I think you have to put yourself in their shoes. They will be called to a lifetime of time wasting situations like that. Looking for people who aren’t there. Hindsight is 20. 20 as always
@daphnezelinski4794
@daphnezelinski4794 10 месяцев назад
@@ShutityouI understand what you’re saying, but that comes with the job. You have to give every call your best effort…it’s worth it to possibly save a human life. We all hope that if our children were in a similar predicament, that professionals would take their job seriously, and do the right thing.
@Melinda8162
@Melinda8162 10 месяцев назад
Oh I remember this!!! I was so upset, that poor kid!!! 😢 I can't believe it happened.
@Snakesnarl
@Snakesnarl 10 месяцев назад
The number of cases with incompetent 911 operators is outrageous and infuriating
@goblin-night
@goblin-night 10 месяцев назад
There are video compilations of useless 911 operators if you're into rage porn. Usually it isn't gross incompetence like this case, it is actually usually an operator who is so damned rude that they flub the emergency. The only incompetence involved is when they mindlessly ask their scripted questions and fluster the caller. Like someone saying they found a dismembered corpse and the operator insists on asking if they are breathing and demanding CPR and shit and then gets mad when the caller is frustrated with them. 🙄
@carnifaxx
@carnifaxx 10 месяцев назад
@@goblin-night or the operator who demanded the mother (or aunt?) to do CPR to a baby that was said to be cold and blue (the Marissa Tietsort case)
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 10 месяцев назад
There are incompetent Dedicated Adult Transportation Services drivers around too some of whom for example do things like fail to do a shoulder check to make sure that their side door has closed properly or in another example when going through a red light at a double red light intersection along a rapid transit line while their passengers are trying to nap and then being told, "It was just a pot hole."
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 10 месяцев назад
@@carnifaxx. My daughter was blue and cop and I still did CPR. That’s what CPR is for. She was revived in the hospital with epi.
@carnifaxx
@carnifaxx 10 месяцев назад
@@rubyoro0 but not for hours, I suppose...
@eliranamar8497
@eliranamar8497 10 месяцев назад
What??? No wrong doing??? They have clearly no idea what they were doing and didnt care too much…
@Chaoitcme
@Chaoitcme 10 месяцев назад
The people working for the city are most likely connected with the police department and the police advocated for the city not to dig into this as it would make the city and police department to look bad. The people working for the city and the police department all need to be investigated by an outside party because they probably conspired on making sure no criminal charges would be filed.
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 10 месяцев назад
This story was horribly misreported. I know his family from when I lived in Cincinnati. His parents are well connected politically and his uncle is a prominent lawyer in the city. When he was born the parents sued the hospital for not informing them of his spinabifoda. I suppose they would have terminated him if they had known. They received 5 million from different doctors for that. Fast forward to this. The dad had a spare tire stored in such a way that the tailgate could not easily be opened and the back seat was not locked in place. When Kyle claimed over the seat to get his bag the seat locked and he was pinned between the seat and the tailgate. Due to his disability he was unable to free himself from his situation and unfortunately suffocated. There was no error on the police part. They had no way of knowing what vehicle exactly it was and with the darkly tinted windows they could not have seen him even if they were next to it. They were looking for a woman as well. Initially the family said they just wanted to prevent this from happening to anyone else and when specifically asked by a council member if they intend to sue they said no. Of course within a couple of months that changed and they decided to sue. Due to his family connections in the area the city settled with the family for an undisclosed amount. His parents are disgusting and have played the victim and distorted the truth throughout all of this. What happened to him was his dad's fault if anyone's.
@Tranquility32
@Tranquility32 8 месяцев назад
Hello @@12yearssober Most respectfully speaking, that Kyle called 911 twice and in great detail conveyed the vehicle and location, the police should have been able to find him within reasonable time to save him. Especially the second call which should have elevated the 911 response. I understand what you said about the tire. But the bottom line is that when Kyle called for help, giving all of the pertinent information to find him, no one got to him. No one. His father had to find him hours later? That’s just horrible, regardless of personal opinions towards the family. Anyway, appreciate you sharing. Take care!
@Because-rt8qs
@Because-rt8qs 7 месяцев назад
​@@12yearssober they didn't know exactly what vehicle but they knew it was a van at 7 hills. They literally drove past the exact right van at 7 hills and never stopped to look. What difference does it make if his parents are rich?
@jacksgl777
@jacksgl777 6 месяцев назад
@@12yearssober. It’s not misrepresented at all. The parents suit earlier is completely separate. Their eventual suit for his death is separate. The cops were the absolute worst. They knew it was a van. They should have thrown their food down and turned off the music. They should have been serious about looking for and into vans to save someone. Just because someone has a spare tire in the wrong place so they can’t use the back door is unfortunate but certainly can’t mean the police shouldn’t try to save someone from this unfortunate bizarre accident.
@kristentrep5038
@kristentrep5038 10 месяцев назад
This has to be one of the most heartbreaking cases I’ve heard! Kyle SHOULD have been saved! There was NO reason whatsoever for this young man to die! The operators… INCOMPETENT! Officers:INCOMPETENT! This boy knew he was in trouble! He called for help and did what he was supposed to do! I’m sure his parents would’ve handled it better had they gotten that phone call! I cannot even believe this combo! Just like dr grande said.., he got the worst possible outcome, and he tried everything to save himself!
@hollymiranda0826
@hollymiranda0826 10 месяцев назад
Officers: NEGLIGENT more than incompetent, imo… 1) They did not use resources they had available to them to aid in getting a more specific location of where Kyle’s van was located. Not to mention, they didn’t even ride through the parking lot which he was in! 2) Neither officer got out of their police cars to look for Kyle’s vehicle on foot!! 3) Not only did they stay in their vehicles rather than get out on foot, they both had music playing - which they didn’t, at the least, turn down & they were eating food! It’s obvious their food & having a good time completely trumped Kyle’s life!!!
@ihitalick607
@ihitalick607 9 месяцев назад
Dumb ass they didn’t get the info from the operator
@terry85mar
@terry85mar 5 месяцев назад
Nah bruh he didn't try hard enough. Help help help help help.
@Ken-fh4jc
@Ken-fh4jc 10 месяцев назад
Like what the hell? I know 911 gets a lot of stupid calls but the level of indifference in this case is beyond belief.
@ddenti99
@ddenti99 10 месяцев назад
Everytime I come across Kyle's story I get sick to my stomach. Such a tragedy. Such a level of incompetence and disregard for his life.
@amimi92
@amimi92 10 месяцев назад
I remember hearing this story and it’s just as tragic hearing the details now as it was when it first came out. The fact that the 911 operators and the police officers were all clearly incompetent and grossly negligent and yet they still failed to hold not a single one accountable is like salt on a horrible wound.
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 10 месяцев назад
It’s grotesque that they refuse to take accountability. It’s the least they can do.
@audreycasassa1683
@audreycasassa1683 10 месяцев назад
@@DottieMinerva Truth!!! It is so far south of shameful there are no words.
@tanikokishimoto1604
@tanikokishimoto1604 10 месяцев назад
This is so terribly sad. Incompetence.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 10 месяцев назад
Next time in trouble I think I'll volunteer to investigate myself and then find myself innocent of all wrongdoing -- I mean, and then relay my objective findings.
@mongoose6685
@mongoose6685 10 месяцев назад
​@DottieMinerva By "taking accountability" you mean "paying millions of dollars in taxpayer money"? It's not coming out of their budgets.
@crazycampers5655
@crazycampers5655 10 месяцев назад
So what happened to the operators and police officers. I know his parents won their case but those jerks should have been held responsible!
@juicebox22a
@juicebox22a 10 месяцев назад
8:31 The city’s investigation revealed no wrongdoing doing and no discipline was issued. I’m sure the settlement includes language preventing any further civil action against the incompetent city employees.
@omgurheadsgone
@omgurheadsgone 10 месяцев назад
Nothing of course. The police investigated themselves and found no wrong doing of course…
@juicebox22a
@juicebox22a 10 месяцев назад
@omgurheadsgone They were told to find no wrongdoing by lawyers, it seems. City officials, operators, and police officers were claiming they had immunity from any civil case. The Ohio Supreme Court determined that there was limited immunity at the overall organization level. However, any wanton or reckless behavior by a single individual would void personal immunity. According to the court docs the 911 center was a compete shit show for years. The officers blamed the 911 center and their lack of training. So they settled. No way they want this to go to a jury trial..... 6 mil is probably a bargain for the city.
@wesleyorange8133
@wesleyorange8133 10 месяцев назад
The investigation revealed that the seriousness of the situation was not conveyed. The cops did not realize that there was someone asphyxiating and running out of oxygen. Which I'm not sure the operator understood how serious it was either, since Kyle was talking, they may not have realized he was also suffocating. There was also apparently a lot of prank calls from the High School from teenagers and the officers. It doesn't excuse them but it's a good example of why prank calling police and emergency services is a really bad idea.
@spasticjackson9578
@spasticjackson9578 9 месяцев назад
I am sure the cops set the van up to do that.
@sarasvensson6026
@sarasvensson6026 7 месяцев назад
I could never be a 911 operator. If something I missed led to someone's death I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
@geraldinenolan6312
@geraldinenolan6312 10 месяцев назад
How absolutely horrific to spend so much time calling for help.... knowing you're literally running out of your alive time. Terrifying. God bless his soul and his family and friends. Terrible story ❤
@james9524
@james9524 10 месяцев назад
They need to teach this case to every police cadet, and every future 911 dispatcher, if they aren't already.
@spasticjackson9578
@spasticjackson9578 9 месяцев назад
They should also teach this to all people with minivans.
@terry85mar
@terry85mar 5 месяцев назад
Nah bruhh they just need to teach it to dummies.
@frednesbit7393
@frednesbit7393 14 дней назад
I owned an Odyssey Van, and when I had to lift the seats up or let them down I was always jolted by how HEAVY and HARD to handle they were!
@MoonWomanStudios
@MoonWomanStudios 10 месяцев назад
This is one of those cases that make me sick to my stomach
@kayzbluegenes
@kayzbluegenes 10 месяцев назад
Kyle told them exactly where he was! 🤦🏼‍♀️ Not that any amount of money could make up for the loss of their son, but I'm glad that his parents at least got a settlement. 😢
@autism_momma_LosAngeles
@autism_momma_LosAngeles 10 месяцев назад
This poor kid must have been terrified. How awful
@LLSmith1
@LLSmith1 10 месяцев назад
This is one of those stories that just darkens your whole day. Rest in peace, Kyle.
@itsnunu101
@itsnunu101 10 месяцев назад
Difficult to watch this video in it's entirety. I live here in Cincinnati and reside less than 15 minutes from this school. I still often think about this tragedy and how this child could have been saved and was not.
@ImNotaRussianBot
@ImNotaRussianBot 8 месяцев назад
Me too. I live in the Deer Park/Blue Ash area, so driving by SHA, just freaks me out. Also, the claustrophobia and dread of dying in such a preventable way when you're surrounded by people has to be the most frustrating thing.
@007nadineL
@007nadineL 13 дней назад
Surely Kyle called his parents and friends and anybody else he had in his contact list on siri. Can you find that out
@rpc717
@rpc717 10 месяцев назад
I truly appreciate your obvious anger at this situation. Such an unlikely accident combined with the four worst rescue personnel on the planet - not even Poe could have made this up.
@lenasamzelius5530
@lenasamzelius5530 10 месяцев назад
What a horrible situation. Kyle described his situation extremely well, even stating that it wasn't a joke, emphasizing he was in danger of losing his life, and clearly described his van and his location. It's horrible that the people who were supposed to save him cared so little about doing a good job. I am glad his parents sued over this. Poor family, poor Kyle.
@nicholsonks
@nicholsonks 10 месяцев назад
That poor child. This is heartbreaking
@katarina1852
@katarina1852 10 месяцев назад
This certainly makes me think of minivans differently. These 911 operators should receive more training or find another line of work. How much more urgent can it get after you explain you’re about to die? The officers might have reacted more expeditiously if they had received a complete report of the contents of the call, even though their search was half-hearted and they were listening to distracting music. A perfect storm of incompetence following an unlikely freak accident just makes this all the more tragic. Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande.
@KatieBellino
@KatieBellino 10 месяцев назад
In my mind, the second operator not passing on the exact vehicle make/model/color information was the major error that would be considered negligence. Officers are on the road all day. Many of them have music running most of the time and it doesn't mean they aren't doing their job. They also can have days with so many calls that they don't get to truly sit and eat. You don't get a true "lunch break" as an officer, so on a busy day, you may need to just keep going. Fake and accidental 9-1-1 calls are so common that after over half an hour of searching, they assumed the call must have been nothing, which is kind of understandable in the lot of a high school.
@KatieBellino
@KatieBellino 10 месяцев назад
It really would not have mattered if the music was off. Let's be real. He was inside a van trapped and would not have been heard from the outside.@@KeyDx7
@TheMattTrakker
@TheMattTrakker 10 месяцев назад
@@KatieBellino The part about the music is because, if you're trying to find someone that's trapped, having music on is going to make it more difficult to hear them if they're screaming for help.
@cplmpcocptcl6306
@cplmpcocptcl6306 10 месяцев назад
This beautiful young man’s story has always broken my heart.💔🥺😢
@holzkiewuf
@holzkiewuf 10 месяцев назад
You can tell some of the stories Dr Grande examines hit him harder than others. No jokes. No alliterations. I don’t know how any parent wouldn’t be devastated by this story. That picture of the cops driving 60’ from the van…. Crushing.
@groverhateselmo
@groverhateselmo 10 месяцев назад
This is so awful. There are already a million ways we worry our kids could be injured or killed then something like this happens - it’s unthinkably awful.
@DarthFurie
@DarthFurie 10 месяцев назад
I remember when this happened, he was the same age as my baby brother. Kyle did not deserve to die and he was failed massively by people who should have helped him. It's shocking how much they dropped the ball. Absolutely heartbreaking for Kyle's family, may his memory be a blessing
@Laura_Stanford
@Laura_Stanford 10 месяцев назад
It is heartbreaking to hear he told the operator, “if I don’t make it alive, tell my mom, I love her”. I am a mom and that breaks my heart.
@kdietz65
@kdietz65 10 месяцев назад
One thing I learned in first aid class back in the 80's, and something that still comes up today is asphyxiation deaths, is the wrong-headed notion "If you can talk, you can breathe." This is wrong and needs to change. Managing to get enough air over your larynx to get out a few gasping words, is not the same as being able to get enough oxygen into your lungs to support your body's metabolism. Sadly, this idea may have subconsciously played a role in the death here. The officers and the 911 operator did not realize they were in a race against time to rescue someone from asphyxiating (though I agree, they should have).
@thepaigeparker
@thepaigeparker 10 месяцев назад
Omg ❤ Thank you for saying this! I have no medical training but as a student of psychology I always say “when lay people say I can’t breathe, they really mean I am having trouble breathing and am in distress!!!” It is so callous to just write it off with “If you’re talking, you can breathe”
@KatieBellino
@KatieBellino 10 месяцев назад
There's also danger in a locked vehicle of overheating.
@wesleyorange8133
@wesleyorange8133 10 месяцев назад
They did not realize he was asphyxiating, and they also thought it was a High School prank.
@thepaigeparker
@thepaigeparker 10 месяцев назад
@@wesleyorange8133 there is no excuse for their negligence and that of the second 911 operator
@wesleyorange8133
@wesleyorange8133 10 месяцев назад
@@thepaigeparker I'm not trying to make an excuse but I am saying if the 911 operator didn't realize he was suffocating it may explain why they took it less seriously. They may have mistakenly thought since he could talk he could breathe
@leliablackwell5141
@leliablackwell5141 10 месяцев назад
How sad. My youngest is 16. Kyle did everything right to get help and was let down in so many levels.
@claracarpenter8913
@claracarpenter8913 10 месяцев назад
Dispatchers and police need IQ tests before placement. They also need emotional intelligence. I hardly ever make statements about IQ, but this is unacceptable.
@13donstalos
@13donstalos 22 дня назад
They do test cops, and if their IQ is too high, they can't be hired. They need people who won't question things too much.
@SixthSun
@SixthSun 19 дней назад
I agree. Shockingly, neither law enforcement or the courts want higher IQ's. Police Depts Believe that persons with IQ's higher than 104 will get bored easily & leave soon after costly training. Search article, "Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops," by ABC (2000). Irony of ignorance!
@Gun5hip
@Gun5hip 10 месяцев назад
This is sickening they failed him and left his father to find his corpse.
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 10 месяцев назад
This story was horribly misreported. I know his family from when I lived in Cincinnati. His parents are well connected politically and his uncle is a prominent lawyer in the city. When he was born the parents sued the hospital for not informing them of his spinabifoda. I suppose they would have terminated him if they had known. They received 5 million from different doctors for that. Fast forward to this. The dad had a spare tire stored in such a way that the tailgate could not easily be opened and the back seat was not locked in place. When Kyle claimed over the seat to get his bag the seat locked and he was pinned between the seat and the tailgate. Due to his disability he was unable to free himself from his situation and unfortunately suffocated. There was no error on the police part. They had no way of knowing what vehicle exactly it was and with the darkly tinted windows they could not have seen him even if they were next to it. They were looking for a woman as well. Initially the family said they just wanted to prevent this from happening to anyone else and when specifically asked by a council member if they intend to sue they said no. Of course within a couple of months that changed and they decided to sue. Due to his family connections in the area the city settled with the family for an undisclosed amount. His parents are disgusting and have played the victim and distorted the truth throughout all of this. What happened to him was his dad's fault if anyone's.
@rubyoro0
@rubyoro0 10 месяцев назад
@@12yearssober. He specifically stated color and make of the van. What more did you want?
@Oreo-gd2zq
@Oreo-gd2zq 10 месяцев назад
​@@12yearssoberhonestly none of that makes the officers and second 911 dispatcher seem any less grossly incompetent. Slandering parents who tragically lost their child in an unforeseeable accident is also not a great look.
@felixwu5151
@felixwu5151 10 месяцев назад
@@12yearssoberu are disgusting as the operator
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 10 месяцев назад
@@rubyoro0 And they expected to see someone in the front.
@thedddemon
@thedddemon 10 месяцев назад
Appalling. All the incompetent idiots involved should AT LEAST be discharged.
@thebigpicture2032
@thebigpicture2032 10 месяцев назад
The second 911 operator was clearly the dunce of the incompetent group.Not relaying a second call to officers on the scene is grossly negligent. The city finding no wrongdoing was criminal coverup.
@Walker_Texas_Danger
@Walker_Texas_Danger 10 месяцев назад
I think the most incompetent doofus in all this is the man that got stuck under 35kg seat In a car and died like the millennial puss puddle for an excuse of a man that he is.
@Pisti846
@Pisti846 10 месяцев назад
All they had to do is look for a gold Honda van!
@JP-ht6nm
@JP-ht6nm 10 месяцев назад
@@thebigpicture2032Absolutely, although the first operator and the cops DID have enough information to find him quickly
@michelecrosse4261
@michelecrosse4261 10 месяцев назад
Poor Kyle, he must have felt so alone. I’m so sorry.
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 10 месяцев назад
This is so horrifying and infuriating to hear as an outsider. I can’t imagine how I’d feel if that was my child. The police said we investigated ourselves and did nothing wrong. Not taking responsibility means nothing will be changed and improved. I’m sure they’d act differently if it was their child.
@thesongbird2383
@thesongbird2383 10 месяцев назад
Dr. Grande - I worked 5 yrs in LE... So, the dispatcher should have labeled the call "Code 3", red lights & siren. "Code 2" misled the first responders. I agree with your analysis & opinions of those involved. So tragic. 👍💜🌵
@sarahfranco6802
@sarahfranco6802 8 месяцев назад
What's code 3?
@angelat.8997
@angelat.8997 6 месяцев назад
@@sarahfranco6802Lights and sirens.
@MsSwitchblade13
@MsSwitchblade13 10 месяцев назад
I can't recall the last time a video of yours made me so angry. The lack of intelligence and even just common sense of those people is astounding, straight up mind blowing. I feel so terrible for him and his family.
@barbiesergio7663
@barbiesergio7663 10 месяцев назад
Agree. I feel the same.
@ck9436
@ck9436 10 месяцев назад
Same here
@kayem9909
@kayem9909 10 месяцев назад
I feel the same way. Such a preventable tragedy. Maddening.
@MishaMishaSoprano
@MishaMishaSoprano 10 месяцев назад
🎯🎯🎯
@kellykane7586
@kellykane7586 10 месяцев назад
Me neither. I have 2 teenagers, and Im livid thinking about this...
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 10 месяцев назад
Among the worst cases of negligence I have heard of. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Grande when refusing to keep bad secrets when saying nothing and so helping to cover up this case.
@texasrefugee7888
@texasrefugee7888 10 месяцев назад
The cops were lazy and reckless. They should have gone around and looked in all the vans.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 10 месяцев назад
Ridiculous they didnt get out of their cars, those operators were terrible. Poor Kyle to be so terrified, not get help, die like that😔Nice diagram & breakdown again. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 10 месяцев назад
You’d think they would look inside the vans in the vicinity
@michaelperez9966
@michaelperez9966 10 месяцев назад
Not getting out of the car wasn’t the issue. The officers should have searched the whole parking lot.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 10 месяцев назад
@@michaelperez9966 To search the parking lot then would mean they actually need to get out to look inside the parked vehicles while there. You make no sense...what is your point?
@HLB313
@HLB313 10 месяцев назад
@@zenawarrior7442their point is they didn’t even drive into the section of the car park that GPS indicated them to
@shroomyk
@shroomyk 10 месяцев назад
The incompetence in this case is astounding. Those poor parents. The cops absolutely should have gotten out and checked every car imo. And of course the 2nd 911 dispatcher should have forwarded the other details to the police. Kyle described the vehicle he was in. They could have found him if they had done their jobs properly.
@JJtvee
@JJtvee 10 месяцев назад
This hurts my heart. He didn't need to die.
@babblingalong7689
@babblingalong7689 10 месяцев назад
This case brings tears to my eyes, so sad.
@actiblizzard
@actiblizzard 10 месяцев назад
unimaginable neglect and abandonment of responsibility. he gave them an exact location and the car brand and color. the fact that the police dpt found no issues or wrongdoing is unbelievable.
@richardlawson6787
@richardlawson6787 5 месяцев назад
You will never hear any police dept admit blame..it never happens
@The_Red_Pill__
@The_Red_Pill__ 10 месяцев назад
The emergency personnel-911 & police should face charges! They were reckless and responsible for his death.
@sweettea527
@sweettea527 10 месяцев назад
My goodness, this poor young man 😢
@kevindohn6776
@kevindohn6776 10 месяцев назад
In this kind of situation, you should be giving the full names of those police officers and those two girls so that justice can be carried out by the public !
@mitchio83
@mitchio83 23 дня назад
100% agree
@shazzamm12
@shazzamm12 10 месяцев назад
Tragic😢. Omg the ineptitude.
@VirtualLunacy
@VirtualLunacy 10 месяцев назад
what a horrible way to die. I worked with our local 911 dispatch center a few years ago. I can't imagine anyone being so bad at that job, they always struck me as very professional and compassionate people.
@sylviaklein7939
@sylviaklein7939 10 месяцев назад
I hope the 911 operators were fired and the cops disciplined. What a complete display of callous negligence by these people. That young man suffered a terrible death. My heart goes out to his family.
@TS-rd7oy
@TS-rd7oy 10 месяцев назад
The so called police should be fired too. They never even exited their vehicles
@freewaybaby
@freewaybaby 10 месяцев назад
They even had the color and type of vehicle to look for. 100% inexcusable!
@freewaybaby
@freewaybaby 10 месяцев назад
Kyle did everything that he knew to do, rightfully assuming that help would come. I wish he had called one of his parents or a friend.
@nonprogrediestregredi1711
@nonprogrediestregredi1711 10 месяцев назад
I highly doubt any firing or disciplinary action was taken. After all, didn't you hear that once they investigated themselves, no one did anything wrong. That's always quite convenient when that happens. It gives a false pretext for the city to not need to discipline anyone involved. Incompetence begets incompetence.
@carnifaxx
@carnifaxx 10 месяцев назад
@@freewaybaby it sounds like this particular information (about the colour and type) never reached to the policemen, it was I think only part of the second call that was basically ignored altogether...
@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero
@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero 10 месяцев назад
Kyle: unlucky as a baby...unlucky as a teenager...bad luck from the beginning of life & bad luck ended his life. R.I.P Kyle.
@kerrydevlin
@kerrydevlin 10 месяцев назад
Kyle must have been absolutely terrified. I can't imagine how his family and friends feel. He should have been easily saved.
@amylynngriffith
@amylynngriffith 10 месяцев назад
I remember when this happened, hearing it on the news because I live in southeastern Indiana and our news comes from Cincinnati. So heartbreaking....thanks for sharing.
@piotrekszczepanski5125
@piotrekszczepanski5125 10 месяцев назад
Dr Grande I have watched every video that you have made thus far, and somehow this one was the hardest for me to process bar none. I'm in tears and words fail me.
@smallbee1234
@smallbee1234 10 месяцев назад
Exactly the way I feel too.
@LoveMyDaisyGirl911
@LoveMyDaisyGirl911 10 месяцев назад
I was going to say " i bet the cops didn't even get out there cars!! Im just heartbroken... I hope the dispatcher along with the Officers see Kyle in there dreams for the rest of their pathetic lives.... Every time they hear music, smile, eat, along with any happiness they see Kyle face... RIP Kyle 😢Im so sorry this happened...
@joan-lisa-smith
@joan-lisa-smith 10 месяцев назад
It was 5 years ago and no one was fired or disciplined if you watched the video
@LoveMyDaisyGirl911
@LoveMyDaisyGirl911 10 месяцев назад
​@@joan-lisa-smith I was editing my new comment as you sent your comment. Thank you
@MishaMishaSoprano
@MishaMishaSoprano 10 месяцев назад
They would have to be capable of empathy or guilt for that. This is just shameful. I wish I hadn't heard this one.
@JessicaBuena000
@JessicaBuena000 10 месяцев назад
This is an extremely sad story. RIP Kyle 💝
@heather440
@heather440 10 месяцев назад
Wow, this story is so sad. I feel for his parents so much. I cannot believe that no one was held accountable by the city. I agree that if more search and rescue people would have been dispatched, he would have probably been saved. A time ago, I tried to call 911 with Siri because my screen was cracked and a fake police officer pulled me over on the highway in Texas. The phone would not allow me to do it and it was very scary. I’m glad he was able to call using Siri and it is so sad that they did not help him.
@LabellaStar-f5z
@LabellaStar-f5z 10 месяцев назад
This is a very upsetting story. Poor kid. Thanks for covering it and coming thru with solid content as usual, Dr. G.
@Missfoxtooyou
@Missfoxtooyou 10 месяцев назад
I appreciate the illustration that was inserted. Well done.
@LethoHali
@LethoHali 10 месяцев назад
Really helped.
@jenniferf1518
@jenniferf1518 10 месяцев назад
😢 This was such a tragic story and a great loss to him and his family.
@mhern57
@mhern57 10 месяцев назад
I remember this case. It bothered me so much when it happened I almost didn't listen to this episode. So very sad and even more frustrating. Rest in peace young man.
@lisagriffith340
@lisagriffith340 10 месяцев назад
Same. It is so sad and should have had a different outcome. 😢
@saec-ford6538
@saec-ford6538 10 месяцев назад
Same here. This case has always upset me. Those operators and the police officers were beyond incompetent and this young man paid for it with his life. They never faced any consequences. Absolutely grotesque.
@mhern57
@mhern57 10 месяцев назад
@@lisagriffith340 Very sad indeed. And yes a different outcome was so reasonably close. Their indifference was appalling.
@mhern57
@mhern57 10 месяцев назад
@@saec-ford6538 Unfortunately officers very rarely face any consequences whatsoever. Not just for ignorance or ignorance of the law but for blatant criminal actions. Police unions and departments that don't care ensure this.
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan 10 месяцев назад
It's amazing how the employees of cities that investigate themselves always seem to be found guiltless
@valentinarex94952
@valentinarex94952 10 месяцев назад
The incompetency is breathtaking. How do these foos get hired. That poor young man. RIP love.
@MrNtesla3327
@MrNtesla3327 10 месяцев назад
Maybe Kyle should have said he was drunk. If the cops would have heard that they probably would have looked harder with a $10k DUI in play. There was no money to be made so the cops didn't prioritize it.
@loraglick5745
@loraglick5745 10 месяцев назад
That's a very cynical response but I can understand it - the level of indifference displayed by the four people who did nothing to save Kyle - even though saving them WAS their job - is so shocking - it makes me nuts.
@DerptyDerptyDUM
@DerptyDerptyDUM 9 месяцев назад
This happened at my high school, although I graduated a few decades earlier. Such a horrifying tragic story. I'm so sorry for his family and friends.
@eliranamar8497
@eliranamar8497 10 месяцев назад
This case make me so angry and sad. Poor guy😢
@jazzzmo7
@jazzzmo7 10 месяцев назад
I'm wondering why an FD call wasn't sent to this location alongside PD, especially since kyle said he was going to die over and over and was obviously in distress. Idk how their 911 center is set up; idk if the calltaker also dispaches or if they're separate, but it's PAINFULLY important to put as much pertinent info as you can in the call in situations like this. If the calltaker can't listen to playback, get a partner or supervisor to help. Relay bad information and expect an inappropriate response. This could've been handled better I hope they at least had some policy and procedure changes after this because more could've been done to help him
@alissawestbrook1706
@alissawestbrook1706 10 месяцев назад
This is devastating. I’ve heard about this case before and clips of the 911 calls and it just kills me. As a parent, I would have gone to each individual included in this disaster and demand they tell me in person why they allowed my child to die.
@rickjames5998
@rickjames5998 10 месяцев назад
and they will all point the finger at each other and admit no wrong doing. "Sorry, better luck next time" they will say.
@kelsi1077
@kelsi1077 10 месяцев назад
@@ns4725How easy for you to say? We are taught as kids that 911 is meant to help us, and help fast. Kyle was doing what he thought would get him the fastest help It’s not mentioned here, but for all we know his parents were unavailable. My mom certainly doesn’t answer every call during the day
@jenanne31
@jenanne31 10 месяцев назад
What a tragic story. I'm glad the family won a large settlement, but that can't compensate for their immense loss. Thanks for your content, Dr. Grande!
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 10 месяцев назад
This story was horribly misreported. I know his family from when I lived in Cincinnati. His parents are well connected politically and his uncle is a prominent lawyer in the city. When he was born the parents sued the hospital for not informing them of his spinabifoda. I suppose they would have terminated him if they had known. They received 5 million from different doctors for that. Fast forward to this. The dad had a spare tire stored in such a way that the tailgate could not easily be opened and the back seat was not locked in place. When Kyle claimed over the seat to get his bag the seat locked and he was pinned between the seat and the tailgate. Due to his disability he was unable to free himself from his situation and unfortunately suffocated. There was no error on the police part. They had no way of knowing what vehicle exactly it was and with the darkly tinted windows they could not have seen him even if they were next to it. They were looking for a woman as well. Initially the family said they just wanted to prevent this from happening to anyone else and when specifically asked by a council member if they intend to sue they said no. Of course within a couple of months that changed and they decided to sue. Due to his family connections in the area the city settled with the family for an undisclosed amount. His parents are disgusting and have played the victim and distorted the truth throughout all of this. What happened to him was his dad's fault if anyone's.
@sunnydelight5255
@sunnydelight5255 10 месяцев назад
@@12yearssoberThanks for background info. Police still failed him. Has nothing to do with his dad.
@mercury_rising
@mercury_rising 10 месяцев назад
@@12yearssoberhe literally described the minivan in the 911 call.
@nanettevantriesteharder2469
@nanettevantriesteharder2469 10 месяцев назад
@@sunnydelight5255 Because my husband is a recruiter for a security company owned by a former NYC police officer with many years of experience in law enforcement, I know that even low paid security officers on vehicle prowl in Walmart parking lots are not allowed to eat or drink anything but water from clear bottles in their trucks. Because my now deceased brother-in-law retired as a law enforcement officer after decades of service to the community, that is not always possible for LEOs. However, in my opinion, meal breaks should never be done while conducting investigations into legitimate emergency response calls. SOs are not allowed to play music on the radio, etc., sing, or have their personal phones on them. They must have their vehicle's flashing bar lights turned on, its doors locked with windows open no more than 2.5 to 3 inches to listen to what is going on outside of the vehicle while it is in operation. They are not allowed to have anyone else in their vehicles, except site and field supervisors and operations managers during training, unless SOs are given specific permission to do so on a case-by-case basis. They have their radios to communicate with management, company phones to communicate with each other, and other equipment with them to do their jobs. So, when the average unskilled unarmed SO can and does do a better job on cameras that cannot be turned on and off than local armed cops with body cams that can be turned on and off by LEOs who get paid a lot more for their education, training, experience, supervision, and wisdom to do the right thing on a split second's notice, it's a problem that needs to be dealt with immediately. These two so-called cops should have been reprimanded, fined, retrained, and fired immediately or if they did not improve 100% within the first six-month period following this incident.
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 10 месяцев назад
@@sunnydelight5255 His dad didn’t properly store the spare tire which is the reason Kyle became trapped. His dad is to blame. Without his negligence none of this would have happened.
@welern2liv815
@welern2liv815 10 месяцев назад
I sat down to eat until this story unfolded...dying at the negligence of those who swore to help him 🤢
@brightballoon
@brightballoon 4 месяца назад
Omg, this is absolutely heartbreaking. How could they be so incompetent? No wrongdoing on the part of the officers and dispatchers?!?
@ember1794
@ember1794 10 месяцев назад
He had such presence of mind, so sad he couldn't be rescued 😢
@brittanywilcox7377
@brittanywilcox7377 10 месяцев назад
This is so heart breaking
@meganlouise9007
@meganlouise9007 10 месяцев назад
I lived there when this happened. It makes me angry to this day and seeing the visual at 3:31 I cried. He was only a year younger than me, I can't imagine...
@audralynn7454
@audralynn7454 10 месяцев назад
I could barely finish listening to this case, Dr. Grande. But thank you for covering it, it's important to learn from the mistakes made. RIP Kyle, you deserved better.
@Strype13
@Strype13 10 месяцев назад
You know Dr. Grande is extraordinarily upset with the facts of the case when he skips out on providing his fun alliteration to close out the video... and I'm right there with him. The ways in which this poor child was failed by both law enforcement and dispatch is downright infuriating. And the fact that none of them were held accountable is un-f*cking-believable. RIP to Kyle, and my sincerest condolences to his family and loved ones.
@MishaMishaSoprano
@MishaMishaSoprano 10 месяцев назад
🎯
@drdr76
@drdr76 10 месяцев назад
To my mind, he was failed by his parents too.
@rebymunster
@rebymunster 10 месяцев назад
@@drdr76but if you’re in an emergency and call all the correct emergency departments telling them you’re dying…they should freaking get to you and help. Unacceptable. I wish he’d called his parents first or something.
@jimmynobody3461
@jimmynobody3461 10 месяцев назад
​@@drdr76explain how's its his parents fault
@hanfred
@hanfred 10 месяцев назад
He never jokes around in these super tragic cases, where most people would consider it to be tasteless.
@dustin628
@dustin628 10 месяцев назад
Wow that is just so so vile. I have no words for how bad this was.
@pfschuyler
@pfschuyler 10 месяцев назад
This is an absolute tragedy. Completely accidental, I have the same vehicle and there's nothing wrong with the design. But you could see this happening under these circumstances. Combined with poor 911 and police conduct.
@kashigata
@kashigata 10 месяцев назад
I knew about this case but had not realised the depths of incompetence exhibited by those who were supposedly there to help. I can’t imagine how his parents and sibling could recover from something so utterly infuriating and tragic. My heart goes out to them. I’m so glad they sued and won. I hope those involved have been placed in positions where they can’t do any more harm. I hope they can’t sleep at night.
@rosemadder5547
@rosemadder5547 10 месяцев назад
This one’s almost too sad for me to listen too… and I’m an EMT so I see a lot of “sad”. It just must have been so scary and then being abandoned by the adults in charge of helping him… the pain too. Just awful. And the way his dad found his body is terrible 😢
@NTGreekGal
@NTGreekGal 10 месяцев назад
I live in Cincinnati and remember this tradgedy. Seven Hills School is a beautiful school on a large property with ample parking. Im astounded that they didnt find his van. I am also disgusted by the behavior of the officers!
@bjh7924
@bjh7924 10 месяцев назад
How can the officers & operators not be jailed, let alone not even disciplined??? That's so disgusting. What a terrible way to die, that poor guy 😔💔 Officers should not be able to turn off their bodycams.
@mariaotto6732
@mariaotto6732 10 месяцев назад
That second 911 call... so sad. As a mother of 16 yr old boy (teen) that also drives my minivan occasionally, this case made me mad and sad at the same time. Poor Kyle, died in a horrible way and encountered the worst responders before that. Can't imagine how he was feeling as he saw no one come to his aid. Thanks for this analysis Dr. Grande.
@angelagreen3642
@angelagreen3642 10 месяцев назад
My heart breaks for this beautiful boy and his family. I have a 16 year old daughter and couldn't imagine the pain. 😞
@OrangeAppled9
@OrangeAppled9 10 месяцев назад
I can’t bring myself to watch this one yet. Devastating!!
@mariesimpson7613
@mariesimpson7613 10 месяцев назад
That poor boy, he had also had an accident at four months old, which caused serious problems for him. It was unbearable hearing how the emergency services repeatedly failed him.
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 10 месяцев назад
This story was horribly misreported. I know his family from when I lived in Cincinnati. His parents are well connected politically and his uncle is a prominent lawyer in the city. When he was born the parents sued the hospital for not informing them of his spinabifoda. I suppose they would have terminated him if they had known. They received 5 million from different doctors for that. Fast forward to this. The dad had a spare tire stored in such a way that the tailgate could not easily be opened and the back seat was not locked in place. When Kyle claimed over the seat to get his bag the seat locked and he was pinned between the seat and the tailgate. Due to his disability he was unable to free himself from his situation and unfortunately suffocated. There was no error on the police part. They had no way of knowing what vehicle exactly it was and with the darkly tinted windows they could not have seen him even if they were next to it. They were looking for a woman as well. Initially the family said they just wanted to prevent this from happening to anyone else and when specifically asked by a council member if they intend to sue they said no. Of course within a couple of months that changed and they decided to sue. Due to his family connections in the area the city settled with the family for an undisclosed amount. His parents are disgusting and have played the victim and distorted the truth throughout all of this. What happened to him was his dad's fault if anyone's.
@mariesimpson7613
@mariesimpson7613 10 месяцев назад
Is it true that the victim reported the colour and make of his van to dispatch? Assuming that is true, the officers should have spotted it. The officers actually went past the van, but they didn’t notice it. I don’t understand your point that the windows were tinted, or the victim was male or female. Surely they should have been looking for the van. Apparently the officers did not even get out of the car, and had music playing. The victim may have been shouting to help the officers locate him. Basically, they should not have left until they had had checked each van. It would be impossible to do that if they never left their vehicle. I feel very sorry for Kyle.
@gschaaf713
@gschaaf713 10 месяцев назад
thats a lie@@12yearssober
@SetiSupreme
@SetiSupreme 10 месяцев назад
​@@12yearssoberNone of what you say make any sense. They knew what make and model car they were supposed to check and even if they didn't, they could have checked them all. They didn't even get out of their cars for fucks sake while they knew someone was badly pinned inside their car about to die!! The police AND the 911 operator number 2 were negligent and reckless, I don't understand how you can deny that, no matter how much you hate the parents. And no lol it's not the dad's fault.. It was a freak accident for fuck sake, how could that type of thing even cross someone's mind is beyond me
@Viewer92136
@Viewer92136 10 месяцев назад
@@12yearssober Stop repeating your bullcrap all over this. None of that matters. 911 and the police failed doing their job. Doesn't matter if the parents are well connected and they sued. The boy is dead because of police and 911 negligence. The parents suing a hospital has nothing to do with this - unless you are just trying to disrespect grieving parents. Hopefully, you never know the pain of losing a child. Stop making excuses for the police and the 911 workers. Kyle gave them his location, the make of his car, etc ... they should have found him using GPS ... not his father finding him hours later. How heartbreaking.
@elaineelias2588
@elaineelias2588 10 месяцев назад
This is such a tragedy! Too sad. Thank you dr grande
@patriciabonitz5758
@patriciabonitz5758 10 месяцев назад
Oh Dear God what a horrible tragedy. The poor parents. Yes, Kyle died because of the 911 operators and the police.
@skreemqueen7520
@skreemqueen7520 10 месяцев назад
I’m a true crime follower. I’ve heard so many Rude and Incompetent 911 operators in cases I’ve followed. It’s unacceptable. It’s time for an overhaul. New Operators , new training and strict rules. Each call should be evaluated on ways to improve. It’s just gone too far. My sympathy to Kyle’s family. May he rest in peace.
@yvonneknickerbocker920
@yvonneknickerbocker920 10 месяцев назад
Infuriating, horrific negligence beyond any word's ability to describe . . .
@thehashslingingslasherndnd9849
@thehashslingingslasherndnd9849 9 месяцев назад
This is just tragic. Poor guy. Those people failed him so bad.
@188CRA
@188CRA 7 месяцев назад
Poor kid. All people trained to save him let him down. RIP
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 10 месяцев назад
My gosh Dr. Grande, this case broke my heart.😢 Sad beyond belief. Thank you for your thoughts on this.❤
@princesskileyrae
@princesskileyrae 10 месяцев назад
I heard Kyle's 911 call a couple weeks ago. It's completely heartbreaking. After the accident when he called 911, the young man was polite, gave his location accurately, & did everything right but died anyway. Poor, poor young man. It didn't need to happen this way.
@Aashka_The_Mystic
@Aashka_The_Mystic 10 месяцев назад
What an awful handling of this situation. Those officers should have been fired as well as the dispatcher.
@PeaceTrainJump
@PeaceTrainJump 10 месяцев назад
This is one of the saddest stories I've ever heard. Heartbreaking.
@Searchin4keys
@Searchin4keys 10 месяцев назад
I remember when this happened. It was so tragic those cops FAILED him so badly!! They didn't even get out of their car. Jeezus he did everything he could to try to save his life. Everyone was outraged that the cops didn't get in any trouble at all. They literally were right next to his mini van. He was a child.
@sayhello5377
@sayhello5377 10 месяцев назад
It is so very scary having to wait for help to arrive. Last May, the house directly behind mine burned down overnight. I had woken up to feed my newborn and saw flames through my window. I was stunned for a minute because I thought I was dreaming. Then, I realized I didn’t hear sirens, I didn’t see anyone outside, the people were still inside and no help was coming. I called 911 and it took *TWENTY SEVEN MINUTES* for the fire department to come from 2 miles down the street. (It’s a volunteer fire dept. The crew that was working had already been dispatched to something else across town, so they had to call back up.) It was the most helpless feeling in the world. Fortunately, my husband went over and was able to help get them all out and everyone survived. I’m actually looking out the window right now at the lot that used to be their house and all that is left is the concrete basement. :(
@alexandraw.4012
@alexandraw.4012 10 месяцев назад
?!?!?!?! OMG ?!?!?!!? Stories like this TERRIFY me. It's so lucky that you noticed, did the right thing, and your husband was able to help.
@HeythereCassie
@HeythereCassie 10 месяцев назад
This story brought me to tears. His call for help going understood, heartbreaking
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