Good for him he deserves it dudes bin loyal to this game over 20 years through the shit ones,good ones, and now with one of the best ever made he can get rewarded for his time spent playing and helping the community by getting a shit ton of views. And hopefully good money. Hes bin unofficially making haradas tutorials for him since day one
Yes all 2 of them... I played Reina while being terrified of facing a mirror match (they make me nervous) and in 6 hours of play i only faced 1 other Reina.
It reminds me of your first wavedash guide in Tekken 7. I watched it i dont know how many times. Such a good memories. Now im pro wavedasher. Thank you TMM.
Respect. I'm played over thousand hours with Eddy in Tekken 7, but in Tekken 8 i wanna become Kazuya main. Have some experience with Mishima's, most times can do perfect electric, can even do quick wavedash but just can't learn how cancel wavedash into wr moves. Need more practice.
Man I've been tryna learn Mishima's over the last year when I got my arcade stick and I got everything down except wavedashing, it's the last thing my hands refuse to do.
“Just do Forward N Hadouken”You know how long I’ve been trying to learn wavedash since Tekken 4 when I was a kid I gave up on it and Tekken till Tekken 6 when Lars came and I would just play Lars cause I used it as a crutch for not being able to wavedash and seeing you explain it like that has brought me so much joy
I have a 2 months vacation and just reached the end of red rank DVJ. If I want to reach higher ranks I need to practice my wave dashing. Main mans Mishima style lessons are a god send.
Something of note; ON ARCADE stick: With the same amount of practice, your Mishima techniques(wavedash, electrics, iWS from crouch dash) will always be better on Player 2. You have your thumb and multiple fingers for movement as opposed your wrist on P1. Majority of your practice time should be dedicated to P1 side. You do get a good backdash cancel if you use the reverse wavedash input. It can take a few months to get very competitive on P2 side but it will take LONG to get competitive on P1 side. On standard Leverless: P2 is the bane of your existence as a Mishima player. Very few, if any at all, shorcuts are known and you have to put the majority of your practice time that side. Leverless boasts an insane number of techniques and alternate methods to do almost everything. If you want to be a master at it, youre going to have to invest a LOT of time into it. On Pad: It MIGHT be more comfortable to start on P2 side, but if you train P1 you can be insanely strong on both sides (in relation to Mishima techniques). So far this seems like the controller where side selection has little hindrance on your growth.
I'm a pad player and for some reason I can't do the wavedash efficiently on player 1 :( so if i play on player 1 I can't wavedash but I can backdash. And if i play on p2, i can wavedash but I can't backdash lol
@@FollowTheDamnTrain0 I am more accurate on P2 but after training for months on P1 I became faster on that side. I'm still learning how to iWS that side, but my training is greatly reduced because of obligations and the fact that I'm trying leverless and arcade stick more nowadays
@@careyanderson6567 Oh, those ones have no weaknesses 🤣. One-hand electrics, light dashes on both sides, iDash, iWR, 13 and 14f electrics consistently, superior KBD,... Whatever you can think of, and how fast you can do it on any other pad, youll be able to do it even faster on those controllers. Wish I had one honestly 😂. Zero exaggeration on what I am saying about those controllers with directional buttons on both sides. The highest learning curve, yes, but what you'll be able to do on it will only be limited by your creativity and training, nothing else(maybe arthritis, but even then, you can find a technique that uses one side more than the other)!
I've been playing Mishimas for a few years now and the moment when it occurred to me that you can just hold forward and slide into DF to get those moves.....it felt like a damn revelation 😂
the funny thing is that playing DJ in T7 actually helped me in other fighting games since you can do DP motions with the same input as a crouch dash since most games don't count neutral as an input, it also helps clean your input as you're less likely to get DF in between your forward and down inputs so technically it slows you a few frames but the consistency drastically improves
Wavedash for standing pressure only applies against opponents who have brains. When you're stuck in greens and yellows wavu wavu can get easily clipped by any random hopekick etc and the opponents are only playing flowcharts, they aren't going to do things in response to your own conditioning.
Thank you so much MainMan. I'm a long time Tekken player, "O.G." one might say, Dating all the way back to Tekken 1. And Jin has been my main since Tekken 3. And I was never able to successfully do a wave dash consistently. I would just become discouraged and wouldn't try anymore. But after your tutorial and how you explained how to do the wavedash, I have been able to perform it. Now all I need to do is practice it an insane amount of hours.
thank you for the guide man! i practised until my fingers started to hurt. i am a new tekken player and picked reina, i played 2 online matches where i had a reina mirror match and i 3-0 both of them, makes me really happy knowing this guide helped me with the dashes
Thing about wavedashing at someone is the hopes you'll counterplay a sidestep you usually have to commit to the wave longer and leave yourself open. It's probably more critical to try to wavedash up to someone you expect to sidestep then do something homing to try to catch them. Trying to answer a sidestep with a CD move that realigned with the opponent feels like you're the one at the greater risk. I've found people who can confidently sidestep a CD move are less worried about the realignment function of a wavedash.
Already knew all of that, but still thank you. This is gonna help a lot of people. I gotta get that iws2 down and practice on the other side a lot. Hoped to do it in T7, but oh well.
I've been playing for years now and this video finally helped me get wavedash down, thanks! For all the unaware players this works for anyone with a wavedash by the way.
As a long time viewer I'm really happy for you tmm also absolute fire dropping all these awesome guides, was really cool seeing you on the official channel guide as well congrats bro well deserved!!!!
Thank u so much bro... I've been wavedashing since 2003 but never knew the exact input... I'm good with wd cancel demon paw but what I got to learn in this vid is wd cancel ws2 input...all I need to practice for million more yrs 😅
Another reason why you should practice on both sides is due to science: "Research has found that when you train one side of the body with unilateral training, the other side is also stimulated, and this indirect stimulation actually strengthens the nonworking side".
I was always scared to mishima up but after the new comer reina it kinda lit a spark. It makes me want to learn how to be a mishima while still partying with her own playstyle. I love it
It's worth noting there's an easier way to do the instant ws cancels that is slightly slower but still does the job. Basically when wavedashing when you decide to do the ws move, you're gonna input the wavedash and immediately on hitting df, drag your stick to db and tben let go and hit your button. Voila, much easier execution of iws 2, just a few frames slower. Since the iws is meant to catch crouching, the slight difference in frames won't matter much, and you're going to have a natural amount of variance in how fast you can input the move regardless of which version you do, so I'd argue for the most part there's no tangible difference.
Awesome guide. Just for information, I tried WS2 without holding back and it works. You just have to wait for perhaps one more frame (just delay pressing 2 a bit)
Also FINALLY someone explains the process of wavedashing and shows the actual inputs they use with their hands. Also WWHY someone wants to wavedash cuzz after all these years all it did for me was "shadow lariat good yes?"
Thank for this. I’m sure you’ve done it before. Gonna keep tabs on your quick guides! Also you laughing at yourself for being a “fighter” made me laugh 😆
I can only do iWS on dominant side fairly well(P2) but it is really hard to do it consistently on the opposite side. I even got my hands hurt for a week because of training on my left side in Tekken 7. I knew I learned Mishima the wrong way at first but I have been playing Tekken since Tag2 era and learned playing in T7 release. It shows how insanely difficult it is for newcomers on how treacherous the path of a Mishima Enthusiast.
I play on ps5 and use a controller and I'm not quite sure on how to do the wave dash over and over like I can do it once just for my 50/50 and thats it and I prefer the left side and I use the D-pad as I think most controller players do
Then you’re not giving them a reason to respect it, don’t just keep wavedashing forever, mix up your timing, and make sure you block too to bait out their hits
Don't forget WaveDash block. Tap back during the crouch dash to instantly block and threaten mixup directly in their face. Qudans has mastered this so watch him use it a lot.
On a Playstation or xbox pad you can swap the sticks for an easier wave dash. The only thing is that you have to get used to doing attacks out of them and going into block quickly.
I play Kazuya because he's the reason I'm even playing Tekken in the first place, originally i just wanted to play a character an electric but I'm pretty set on Kazuya
Never forget I did like the expert version of a wave dash three times on a 360 controller on Tekken 6 with kazuya..... And then proceeded to suck at it all the time after that lol can't even do it slowly now.....
I am practicing my electric wind god fist. I can do one occasionally in practice mode but the input is so painful. It also doesn't help that i used to play Armor King who has a wavedash but requires no just frame input for his lariat. It was nice.
Thank you so much man like literally you’re so helpful, coming from 2d fighters Tekken over whelming but your videos have made it so much easier to get into. Also maining Devil Jin
@theMainManSWE U mentioned that arcade stick actually harder than controller. I never understood why people try to prefer arcade stick. I don't fully see the advantages.
i've always played on p1, but now that im actually trying to perfect the wavedash and electrics i actually feel more comfrotable on p2... wavedashes are alot easier when you dont have to use the entire palm of the hand to move the stick.. its really weird, now i gotta relearn all my combos on p2, where alot of shit just drops for no reason.. its like there's a slight difference in pushback on p2, than on p1.. whats the deal?
Love the tutorial. I have a question. I want to get into tekken, but I've been seeing reviews on the arcade stick or the hitbox. What do you recommend new players who want to get into tekken that'll have the easiest time getting good at the movements. Thanks and keep up the good work, love your videos
Hey tmm! I am willing to go really seriously on Reina and D.Jin, but I saw that the hitbox of the electric is somehow different, I mean, doing 3 electrics in a combo now is kinda hard to hit, do you have any tips regarding this? It would be helpful to see a video about it, or having an answer! Thanks in advance, I really love your content^^
as someone who is just starting to learn is it worth trying a different ball top and maybe change from a japense stick to a korean stick? I am 40 hours in and still feel like i can barely do any of this my speed and consistency are very poor