So, I started a genocide run... And well... Minthara won't completely acknowledge that I've already killed every single inhabitant of the grove, sadly. But at least to some extend.
I can’t believe anyone tries to stick up for Sazza, considering you save her life, rescue her, and after doing all of that, she suggests killing you to Minthara.
oooooo no, ive fallen and cant get up 😱 i really hope no freaky spider mommy comes and pegs me!! oooOOoOoo that would be so bad! Especially bc im so helpless oh noooooo 👀
Ikr?! I was an Elf my first time meeting her, and I felt flattered. Like that’s such a nice compliment! She phrases it like an insult or slur, but it’s anything but!
This was actually similar to how my first playthrough went. I didn’t kill the tieflings, but I did kill kagha before exposing her as a shadow druid (didn’t know how to), which made the druids go hostile, and by the time the battle was over only my party survived. There was no battle at the gate, after I talked to minthara she already showed up at the grove and proclaimed her victory. Had to kill her to keep wyll on my team, and there was no tiefling OR goblin party.
The key to exposing Kagha is ( spoilers ) A scroll hidden on the side of a massive tree stump in the swamp that's protected by Mud Mephits. It contains details of the Shadow Druids plans.
same haha didn’t mean to kill them all and out of sheer anger on minthara i killed her in my camp later when she showed up to celebrate…not optimal at all though and the game still gave me a „celebrations calming down“ cut scene although everyone was dead 🤨
The funny thing is, it's much, much, MUCH easier to destroy the goblins and their three leaders at their base, rather than face them at the grove. You have the element of surprise at their base, and that alone is incredibly powerful in this game.
The goblin priestess you can get completely alone if you killed her giant before hand and if you destroy minthara’s orb, she’ll only have a handful of goblins in support. Droz though, when I fought him I ended up triggering the whole base to attack
@@flameconvoy7424 For Droz i could just throw some Goblins into the spider pit and they basically worked for me. You can befriend the spiders beforehand.
@@flameconvoy7424first playthrough I fought Droz first during the ritual, then lost, went to jail, barely survived breaking out of jail with rocks and fists but mostly Halsin going apeshit on everyone as a bear
In my third playthrough, I attacked one of the Shadow Druids when I first saw her in Rat form, immediately after saving Arabella from Kagha and before doing anything to uncover their conspiracy. That made the Shadow Druids hostile towards me and towards the other druids. They killed Nettles before I could defeat them. When I went back outside I found the normal druids and tieflings were all fighting each other. I mostly stayed out of the fight, but when I saw some druids were killing unarmed tieflings in the prison I tried to save them. I killed 2 druids but prevented the death of only one of the least important tiefling NPCs. When I later found Karlach, she blamed be for slaughtering all the tieflings and refused to join my party. I was forced to fight her and bring her head to the Paladins of Tyr and get Wyll his Infernal Robe instead of his horns. When I found Minthara I decided that killing one injured tiefling was less evil that slaughter a whole camp of goblins, so I decided to tell her where the grove was. Wyll abandoned me at the goblin party, so I save scummed and went on to Act 2 without going back to the grove. Minthara seemed a little bugged when I found her in Moonrise Towers, sayng dialogue meant to happen at the party, but then instead of beginning the sex scene she went on to her trial before Ketheric as usual.
My paladin stopped that one druid woman from killing a child and ended up dueling her, the rest of the druids in the grove attacked the Tieflings so I defended said Tieflings, and when I met Karlach she called me a psychopathic monster and attacked me for it
I wish there were more benefits and more content became available by raiding the grove. You experience and see more of the story if you don’t raid them, and still get Minthara, jus sucks they didn’t add more stuff for evil play throughs.
@@milat9287 When you go to kill the raid leaders, when you’re attacking Minthara, use non-lethal damage, that way you reduce her to 1 hp and she becomes unconscious. The quest still completes like you killed her, but she’ll just be knocked out instead.
@@PauloRicardo-md4ji well, later she is confronted with ketheric as useless, so we can turn her on our side... Or are you asking why should MC spare her without knowledge from the outside
HandBaenre (even has the husky voice and the "bold approach") ...while you're lying down for Volo's examination, she approaches: "-so uh... you basting that rothé over here? I think it's time to check your temperature... see if the meat is just right..."
In my first playthrough i had to fight her because my game bugged out and the druids did their ritual WAY too early. My experienced friend couldnt stop laughing at how bugged my whole first playthrough was due to this strange interaction.
@@justinbean971 Because Rogues are overpowered for the first few levels, and even more overpowered if they multiclass into Gloomstalker Rangers after that. Vampire bites are also useful on occasion.
My first playthrough I was stand offish to khaga and ended up aggroing her which resulted in having to fight my way through the entire grove. I took my time, not realizing that the tieflings were getting fucking massacred, so by the time I arrived at their fight, the tiefling were all almost dead and were completely dead. it never occurred to me to take credit for it with minthara though haha.
@@user-jc9qo8hn5hI doubt that since Faerie is what Drow are as all elves are Fae. Hence Drow calling their light spell *Faerie Fire* . The Feylands where all Fae originate from (including elves) is also called Plane of Faerie.
Minny: "I was under control when I set out to kill all of them. Why did you?" Me: "To impress you." Minny: "Eh, good a reason as any." LMAO. Don't tell Minny, that I non-lethaled all of them. Was going to come back with Shadowboobs and heal em, but she had left camp by the time I came back for some reason.
Then you meet her in act 2 and it's no different than if you knocked her out and did a normal good guy knock out. Sadly there isn't any point in doing a bad guy run in BG3. Well you lose a ton of allies in the final battle and you get to romance/have sex with her. But that's it.
I think there is a point in doing it. You do unlock a lot of unique dialogue and some content by doing an evil run. The game just tries to show you, that the evil path will always be very lonely and a lot more difficult.
Most of the devoted people refer to the Absolute as 'she', since the absolute is a *goddess* to them, as shown throughout every act. Just as Mystra is referred to using the pronoun 'she'.
So close, wish there was an option for having killed them all and it wasn’t played of as you just having killed many. This is typical BG3, though. Always half in the bag with this one. XD
I really think there should be a more neutral alignment way to kill the tieflings... They literally steal from you, and racially abuse you if you're gith or drow. Meanwhile, the goblins can seem at least as welcoming. I've RP'd quite naturally as good/neutral characters and then been cast as a monster by Wyll, Karlach, and Gale.
I think the problem with your demand is, that you didn't take their background into account. Yes, *the children* might have stolen from you, but that's only, because they are so very desperate to stay alive. Because they have always been cast out. They are made to feel, like they don't belong. And on top of that: Yea racism is a huge think, not only in the real world. Racism is a huge motive seen in Baldurs Gate and DnD/fantasy genre itself. The tieflings are also super heart warming and lovely, if you try to break this cycle of abuse and actually act nice towards them. Apart from the fact, that a lot of them are very friendly from the beginning. If you truly want a neutral way, you shouldn't want to kill them. Because killing people, who are already in need, already shows that you are ready to be the evil part. It can not be neutral. But that's just my opinion, I do understand what you are saying :)
Is this the summary of a woke mind? How's the muslims doing in your neighbourhood? How is the random crime committed by the African refugees in your area? I mean they've always been cast out. Stop being a bigot and let them rob you.
Well considering giths have been killing them and have a reputation on being raiders, purist, militaristic zealots, blood thirsty. And drow are not only attacking them with goblins but have an reputation of being murderous sadists it's literally their religion and way of life It's understandable, also racially abused? That a little bit of an overreaction isn't it considering the situation and they are pretty quick to trust you in the end anyways
But most of the characters are attractive though? At least in my eyes anyway. The only characters I think were NOT attractive, are the hag and the goblins, and that’s because they’re not supposed to be.
