Telling Stonewall Jackson That He Was Going to Die 

That sounds so peaceful ❤

Actually the words are “ let us cross the river and REST in the shade of the trees”.

I've been pondering this beautiful quote by Gen. Jackson lately, and I truly believe that Gen. Jackson was glimpsing Heaven before him.

@@Chingadera Aye. I think he was reliving one of the vivid days of the war.

It was traitorous then as now.

Absolutely! What if they could judge what we have become? Are we Better?

​@@AScottB is Washington DC's lil b$#@

@@melvinhunt6976 When I read someone indulging in 'presentism," that is judging those of the past by standards of the present and being rather smug and superior about it all I can think of is: "OK pal, critisise those folks if you want, but you know what? They'd have no use for you either!"

@@wayneantoniazzi2706 you totally missed my point! Nobody today should criticize someone and the way they believed, 50/ 100 / 200 years ago!

To be blunt, back then, the individual had not been elevated to the same or greater importance than the Creator, as has been done in the modern world - where the creator is even acknowledged, that is. Resignation and acceptance come naturally when one has humility before The Creator.

Agreed, well said!

Even today those who are close with The Lord pass along the same .. have witnessed it n felt it.

@michaelwilson9986 I agree! The peace that comes over a dying person, in my opinion, is not from this earthly dimension, but a euphoric acceptance, I believe only the Lord can/will provide. In that sense, one can not only be at peace, as embracing everlasting joy goes beyond what we are able to comprehend, but certainly look forward to!

I think when he was at West Point, he did the same thing. I think there was a spot, where some cadets would go ...

Most respectfully, gentlemen, I believe Gen. Jackson was looking into Heaven when he spoke those beautiful words.

It amazes me that white supremacists who treated men like animals thought God was with them, white supremacists think chattel slavery is compatible with Christianity to this day, what a great surprise Jackson got in hell

God does not exist

Yes, James! Well said.

@@georgiapines7906 Stonewall Jackson was a crazy MF. Admittedly a great general but as Lee and the rest, on the wrong side of history. I grew up in VA and certainly was indoctrinated with the Lost Cause mythology but the south lost, that's why they call it the Lost Cause......

​@@paulnicholson1906 Thank you for sharing your opinion. It is obvious that we shall agree to disagree, Mr. Nicholson, regarding our General Jackson, General Lee, and the South. Respectfully, Georgia.

@@georgiapines7906 I wonder what you disagree with? Respectfully of course. I grew up in Winchester, VA. They have separate Confederate and Union cemeteries there. George Patton's uncles are in Mount Hebron I think it is called, the Confederate side. They make it an industry commemorating the war. Changed a lot since I was young since there are a lot more Yankees living there now than then.....

That's an understatement. Furthermore, if he were in charge, the south would have easily won the war. They still should have. Peninsular Campaign a grievous example. The northern generals were imbeciles.

Nonsense. As Shelby Foote said “ The North fought that War with one hand held behind its back . All it had to do was pull the other one out .”

@@natashatomlinson4548 What Shelby Feete said is irrelevant. I think he also said Lincoln was a genius. The north had no business winning that looting expedition. The war should have been over at Peninsula Campaign. Look up the date. Game. Set. Match. Not only that, but Stonewall's plan would have guaranteed victory for the Christians. Only a couple of weeks at most.

@@KennethMachnica-vj3hf 😆😆 So you’re a renowned Civil War scholar now? 😂 Which University do you teach at Professor Sparky ? If nothing else , you have a Ph.D in Delusion that’s for sure . And silly boy , people fighting for human enslavement in no way can be called “ Christians.” You are in a serious level of denial

@@natashatomlinson4548 All you have to do is read some books. Of course, you scoff at the notion. BTW, Lincoln was a racist and white supremacist. His main general, Grant , owned slaves with his wife. She used to bring along a couple, to wait on her, when she visited that drunkard at his camps.

Sorry he was a traitor who probably held slaves.

Except thou shalt not kill

And traitor and slave owner

I asked a friend about this, since I wasn't confident about the answer. If it was your grandmother's brother, he'd be your grand-uncle. If it was your grandmother's father's brother, he'd be your great-grand-uncle. Since it was your grandmother's father's father's brother, he is your *great-great-grand-uncle.* I think that's right now . . .

@@QED_ Thank you!

People do many things that are not moral. Duh. That doesn’t excuse it.

@@natashatomlinson4548Your comment doesn't address the first part of my post. Deciding who gets into Heaven is solely up to God, and God's standards are different from ours. That said, the Bible condones both child marriage and slavery, which we find abhorrent. The likelihood is that future Christians will condemn at least one thing that we consider moral, which highlights the problem with judging the actions of historical figures by our current standards.

Everyone sins. even you - arrogant a$$. @@natashatomlinson4548

As the only slaves that Gen. Lee "owned" were the ones his wife inherited from her father. They could have turned them loose to fend for themselves. How compassionate would that have been?

I’m an atheist so I don’t believe in that stuff but if you betray our nation to protect slavery you are not a good person. His morals were selfish. He’s an interesting person for sure but you can learn more about being a better person by not following him. He was a person of ridge belief and could never learn or change.

He was thrown from his stretcher not once but twice as he was being carried from the field. The first time, one of the stretcher bearers got his leg tangled in some vines and tripped. From my understanding, that was probably not the fall that did the real damage, though. The second fall was a little bit later when an artillery shell struck close by killing one of the stretcher bearers, and that one was a much more violent fall. I had not heard about the stump or the rock but could believe that. I have been under the impression that if a modern autopsy been possible, it would likely be discovered that he had a broken rib and very possibly a punctured lung, most likely resulting from that second fall. But you may be correct in your assessment.

​@@FuzzyWuzzy75 and a legend was woven around what could be a story of betrayal, or at least carelessness. In the same manner as many Confederate troops did not know Jeff Davis' wife was essentially Black (Creole). Or that Judah P. Benjamin''s wife was Creole.

@TreeOfWisdom2 I have heard the claims of carelessness and betrayal about the death of Stonewall Jackson. There are claims that there were special forces operatives in Confederate uniforms that shot Stonewall Jackson. Some people just can't or refuse to accept the official story in their minds. There always has to be more to the story than what they are told, some grand conspiracy, perhaps? I don't know about any of that, and it is all really inconsequential at this point anyway, just like my theory about the broken rib and punctured lung is. But what I do know for a fact is that there was a major battle taking place. It was starting to get dark, there were dense woods all around and the battle lines between retreating Yankees and attacking Rebels were scattered and confused. The Confederates may have won the battle, but they paid a terrible price for the victory at Chancelorsville. There were a lot of scared, confused, and disoriented soldiers with guns in their hands and itchy trigger figures all about. The story goes that the men who fired on Stonewall Jackson and his staff were Confederates from North Carolina (my home state) and they believed that Jackson and his staff were Union Cavalry and there for they open fired. I personally don't see any reason to believe that there was much more to it than that. But I could be wrong.

​@@TreeOfWisdom2Or that General Grant owned slaves with his wife. They were loving life. Those were good times.

@@KennethMachnica-vj3hf in the United States of Lies and Deceit slavery is illegal, but unpaid labor is not. One big lie, that's what USA stands for.

So, you think that's funny?

@@michaelgentry402 Not if it was mine. That's called sarcasm. You have to spread the word. Otherwise, they start injecting that 'slavery' nonsense. Something about freeing slaves...

It was a different time and all races , nationalities have been slaves since the beginning of mankind…. May I remind you the first slave owner in America was a black man who paid others to bring slaves from Africa….check your history. You have served in the USMC , were you not treated equally ????

@@pathamm5834Yours is rationalizing nonsense .

The mass media first monopolized news papers, then radio & T.V. owners print & say what they want to increase subscription. Many an owner has a hidden agenda. Studying history is not the act of being told what is right or reading what is presented. It is detective work. Copious amounts of research from all contributions that record THEIR perceptions of events. After shuffling thru myriad accounts its the students responsibility to arrive at conclusion. This result of this act of conclusion is many times filtered thru the students own cultural indoctrination, thru their own perceptions created by their own Ego. Many times truth is deeply buried due to all the above. Especially when money is involved. History is written by the victorious and in the digital age is revealing how the victorious construct histories that favor the future regimes! Stay awake! Be alert to yourself and to your environment. Peace.

No I was not treated equally as a Marine Sir. I was told by my Platoon leader if it was up to him, there would be no Black leaders in the Marines@@pathamm5834

I understand that most civilizations have held slaves...but FREEDOM has never come for the American of color. The fact that you don't even understand that fact demonstrates your own callous indifference and your desire to maintain privilege status. No Black man EVER started the Ku Klux Klan or signed Jim Crow Laws into affect, or continued the societal discriminations that presently exist in America that produce Ghetto's and drug abuse and target populations for prison in impoverished neighborhoods intentionally. @@pathamm5834

You are one sick puppy

You make too much of black slavery, Reflect a little about, for instance, Irish miners working in the coal mines of Pennsylvania, virtual prisoners of their company who virtually robbed them of most of their small wages.by making them take script and spend it in the company store. Life is hard and men are often uncaring of others.

It's been recorded that as slave owners go, ( Jackson had 4 ) he was notably easy on his slaves. It's reported that one black man asked Jackson to "bye" him to avoid being sold some place away from where he considered home. I think it's Jackson being a cold blooded, remouresless killer that may compromise his chances of getting in that good place.

It was the world as it was at that time. One cannot translate today onto yesterday.

@@barrygrant2907Yes one most certainly can - especially when it comes to human chattel slavery .It’s both amazing and disgusting that someone has to point this out to you .

Might be a good idea you read a little history, might learn something.

If you want a clear & honest view on slavery read this book. Jefferson Davis High Road to Emancipation And Constitutional Government By James Ronald Kennedy Walter Donald Kennedy

Yeah, because slavery never existed except in the American South. -_-

No, he wasn't. He was defending his home from invasion. What would you have done? Rolled over?

@@docowen4237 I’m afraid people have been lied to so long they will never believe the truth. Or study for themselves and learn the truth about southern history.