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We begin coverage of the 2020 Commander product with our budget precon upgrade meta-series. We're giving you 10 cards to add and 10 cards to remove (for around $25) in order to get this deck up-to-speed and ready-to-battle against "real" EDH opponents as quickly and easily as possible.
On this episode, we're analyzing the Temur "Arcane Maelstrom" Instants Matter preconstructed deck lead by Kalamax, the Stormsire.
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@bignem20
@bignem20 4 года назад
In this deck I feel that Wilderness Reclamation is better than Seedborn Muse, because it will keep your commander tapped for the instant doubling.
@terryduke6502
@terryduke6502 4 года назад
Paradise mantle is a cheap way to tap it plus it gives you mana
@unbanrofellos5786
@unbanrofellos5786 4 года назад
I put kioras follower and fatestitcher in the deck. Its quiiite nice
@unbanrofellos5786
@unbanrofellos5786 4 года назад
@SupaFly Supreme oh yeah. I mean ill have to try it out, but the way i see it is that i can tap Kalamax if needed, as well as untap him to be a blocker if needed, and tap problematic permanents if necessary. Or untap a Gaea's Cradle. I just think they are the best untappers, but ill still have to try them out to see if they work
@thetogtube2
@thetogtube2 4 года назад
great point.
@Legaleagle0200
@Legaleagle0200 4 года назад
I like seedtime for instant extra turns and you would have to be crazy not to use electrodominance. Stolen strategies can pick up your opponents instants and copy them very sexy. Harrow is quite good grabbing 4 lands for 1. Rewind seems like a great one. Wild ricochet can be sweet with a free copy.
@prevothedevo7479
@prevothedevo7479 4 года назад
Josh and jimmy: singing .. Crow: finally the song of my people.
@orzhovmdw
@orzhovmdw 4 года назад
Craig just wants to make a whole bunch of snakes with wheel and Timetwister effects and play Triumphs of the Horde!
@mr.joesterr5359
@mr.joesterr5359 4 года назад
orzhovmdw disgusting.... I love it
@jackandrew-q9e
@jackandrew-q9e 4 года назад
That’s what I’ve ordered. I’ve built aggro group hug, howling mine effects with purphoros and impact tremors. Not to mention Shared animosity
@Kattywagon29
@Kattywagon29 4 года назад
I mean, that's what I would do...
@haldir1991
@haldir1991 4 года назад
As lands play : Survivors' Encampment Holdout Settlement Tap an untapped creature you control, add one mana of any color. Its perfect here !
@FableErrejeDMR
@FableErrejeDMR 4 года назад
Also Paradise Mantle and springleaf drum
@jonathanfries8902
@jonathanfries8902 4 года назад
Plus nature's chosen works super well in the deck. Honestly looking at the 2 drop Emmara gives you great ideas of how to tap the dino.
@FableErrejeDMR
@FableErrejeDMR 4 года назад
@@jonathanfries8902 yeah actually u don't nerd yo attack to tap the dino
@maladrin566
@maladrin566 4 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking too, many of those tap cards from "Emmara, Soul of the Accord" could be used here. Never did an Emmara deck, but I think I'm going to build this Dino =)
@zachbechtel2101
@zachbechtel2101 4 года назад
@@jonathanfries8902 there's no white in this deck
@magicmorris1692
@magicmorris1692 4 года назад
My must-pick for this deck would be: "Precognition Field" 3+U (DOM) - Look at top card of your libary at any time; You may cast that card if its a instant or sorcery; 3 generic Mana = exile the top card of you libary.
@regaleagle6533
@regaleagle6533 4 года назад
Yeah I gotta say precog field is cool but spring for the kefnet he is down to like 2 bucks. If say frantic search comes up you pay 1 blue and 3 blue and cast it 4 times. With precog field you can double cast it the once for 3. But then the god can swing for damage and if murdered horribly comes back.
@deckertech-aaron
@deckertech-aaron 4 года назад
44:17 When copying modal spells... You can not choose different modes. Something to keep in mind when mentioning the confluence spells. If i choose counter+bounce+draw for the original, then the copy will also be counter+bounce+copy. You get to choose new targets, but for the exact same mode configuration. Definitely a correct card for the deck, just one with a small rules burr to remember.
@suikodin2501
@suikodin2501 4 года назад
I've been bit by this at least once before remembering.
@likemybird97
@likemybird97 4 года назад
Dual Casting 1R Enchantment : enchant creatue enchanted creature has R(tap): copy target instant or sorcery spell you control, you may choose new targets for the copy
@Deris76
@Deris76 4 года назад
Echo mage can also be another nice pickup
@darkienl5886
@darkienl5886 4 года назад
That's perfect on the primary commander, because you tap it... Just wow... that's so good, well found
@lidolf8168
@lidolf8168 4 года назад
Paradise Mantle could work too.
@smartkaboose3806
@smartkaboose3806 4 года назад
This seems pretty bad because you wont be able to copy your first instant an additional time this way.
@gordonross3270
@gordonross3270 4 года назад
@@smartkaboose3806 not an additional time, but it sets up the whole turn rotation, and if kalamax is Summoning Sick, you won't get ANY copies anyway.
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад
Actually, the smart plan with those partners would be to send out only Pako first, stock up on cards with fetch counters and keep Haldan safe until you're ready to bring him out and start playing those cards, at which point you don't need Pako to stick around.
@mustard1123
@mustard1123 4 года назад
Exactly my thoughts.
@williamfry7827
@williamfry7827 4 года назад
i came here to say this
@LogoMotive11
@LogoMotive11 4 года назад
Didn't even think of this, very good point
@rb4121
@rb4121 4 года назад
Won several time with this deck with only minimal tweaks (changed out like four cards before playing) by doing pretty much exactly that.
@CraigArgyleAudio
@CraigArgyleAudio 4 года назад
Of note, Seedborn is WORSE for Kalamax than Wilderness Reclamation as it untaps him.
@nopewipe8900
@nopewipe8900 4 года назад
But it also untaps your spring leaf drum if you have it along with honor bound
@jamesbv4862
@jamesbv4862 4 года назад
Why is nobody talking about Spring leaf drum for this deck it's a perfect addition early ramp and a taps the creature
@deckertech-aaron
@deckertech-aaron 4 года назад
I would label drum as a trap card. It does not ramp TO your commander, which is the biggest goal of ramp. It synergizes with the commander once it's out. So if i included it in my deck, it would be in the 'tapped commander' section, not the 'ramp' section.
@xfatal1241
@xfatal1241 4 года назад
Bought 4 copies at 50 cents a piece
@jamesbv4862
@jamesbv4862 4 года назад
@@deckertech-aaron I understand what you mean which is why its been taken out of most of my decks but in this deck I think it can be both. I think you would find that more often then not it works for this deck as early ramp.
@michaelkeha
@michaelkeha 4 года назад
@@deckertech-aaron considering how low the cmc of Kalimax is I would safely say spingleaf is a ramp to the commander
@deckertech-aaron
@deckertech-aaron 4 года назад
@@michaelkeha springleaf drum does not tap for mana unless you have a creature to tap. Aka, does not ramp you to your first creature.
@michaelstephens9399
@michaelstephens9399 4 года назад
The first two cards that came to my mind: Cryptolith Rite & Paradise Mantle. Tap Lightningbutt to create mana for casting instants.
@CaptBackwards
@CaptBackwards 4 года назад
Dual casting, Song of Freyalise and, cryptolith rite as well!
@aaronscott7467
@aaronscott7467 4 года назад
Dual casting doesn't just "go off" like the other ones do, because it copies the next spell you cast, rather than copying one that's on the stack
@oonmm
@oonmm 4 года назад
Dualcaster Mage + Heat Shimmer = Infinite loop
@yggdrasilraphael4815
@yggdrasilraphael4815 4 года назад
These were my first thoughts indeed. It might be due to budget constraints that they didn’t include it? Song of Freyalise is good too
@hoppeltrottel7484
@hoppeltrottel7484 4 года назад
Earthcraft + any instants that create a bunch of creature tokens. [EDIT] Plus Nyxbloom Ancient, because who needs friends anyway. ^^
@raven6717
@raven6717 4 года назад
Why is NOBODY talking about Holdout Settlement and Survivors' Encampment? They are untapped lands that help you tap calamax, fix your mana, and protect versus things like goading and some other effects in the format!! And are like 10 cents each
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 4 года назад
We actually added those in our deck techs, just happened to see this comment haha
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 Год назад
@@NitpickingNerds I am building this now! Thanks, Nerds!
@chibichanga1849
@chibichanga1849 4 года назад
51:27 Predatory Impetus isn't a lure the way Josh and Jimmy seem to think it is. The creature just needs to be blocked, not every creature needs to block it. So the use cases they mention don't really work the way they seem to want them to.
@Adam-pc2cm
@Adam-pc2cm 4 года назад
6:00 Remember, you can only copy instants.
@6LordMortus9
@6LordMortus9 4 года назад
32:43 as well
@healusion8912
@healusion8912 4 года назад
That works caus kalamax copy the folk(instant) which is copying the cultivate (sorcery)
@regaleagle6533
@regaleagle6533 4 года назад
@@healusion8912 it works but not exactly the same. If you fork an instant you get 2 copies and +2/+2. If you fork a sorcery like cultivate you cast it twice but get +1/+1 which is minor but worth considering. The 6:00 they were just reading the card wrong.
@RogueHippie13
@RogueHippie13 4 года назад
Paul Rhoades The 32:43 example works like they said. You cast the fork on your opponent’s Cultivate. The fork is the first Instant you’ve cast this turn, so Kalamax copies *the fork* and gets +1/+1. With your copied fork, you then target your original fork, which copies *the fork* and gives Kalamax +1/+1. Repeat until you have as many counters on Kalamax as you wish.
@regaleagle6533
@regaleagle6533 4 года назад
@@RogueHippie13 fork works. Twincast works. Wild Ricochet works. Reverberate works. But they choose Narset's Reversal which is not a fork. It is a fantastic choice and works differently to be broken with Kalamax. But it does not do the combo you are describing.
@shadowfox189
@shadowfox189 4 года назад
I'm going with Xyris looks so much fun and could make games go out of hand looking forward to brewing this commander
@monoumonon6530
@monoumonon6530 4 года назад
i will go tribal snakes, + impact tremor and wheels
@shadowfox189
@shadowfox189 4 года назад
@@monoumonon6530 yeah that deffo the best way to go maybe throw in a parallel lives just for extra fun
@Arvensa
@Arvensa 4 года назад
@@monoumonon6530 I recommend Vicious Shadows for that build. Skullclamp + Ashnod's Altar, ofc.
@TheBassoonist0101
@TheBassoonist0101 4 года назад
Saruli Caretaker might be a budget way to tap your commander without combat, 1 green for a 0/3 defender with tap: tap an untapped creature, add one mana of any color to your mana pool. Best case scenario, turn one play it, turn 2 ramp, turn 3 commander, tap it for a mana and copy a 1 mana instant . Late game it helps avoid combat and is a decent blocker.
@sallen9966
@sallen9966 4 года назад
"And then you fling it" 🤣🤣🤣 I almost spit out my coffee Jimmy
@GigaLordShinyMudkip1
@GigaLordShinyMudkip1 4 года назад
34:21 I’ll take the leader of my deck and toss him into my opponent’s face!
@tylerjohnson2344
@tylerjohnson2344 4 года назад
Y'all just gonna let thousand-year storm and eye of the storm fly over this deck?
@ikilly9713
@ikilly9713 4 года назад
you can't have instants and sorceries without a thousand year storm
@CriticoDeNo0bs
@CriticoDeNo0bs 4 года назад
Thousand-Year Storm: Am I a joke to you?
@TheRaggadazar
@TheRaggadazar 4 года назад
I was just thinking this, TYS is such a good card with Kalamax
@daderr99
@daderr99 4 года назад
Naaaa, you don't really want to storm, the value comes of copying only the first one each turn, more meaningfull mana hungry spells rather then thousand year storm.
@adriendelplace8755
@adriendelplace8755 4 года назад
6 mana do nothing right now enchantments are not really viable in 7.5+/10 meta.. even if the card is pretty cool. 6 mana to get a swan song/ dovin's veto in response.. or getting it destroyed before your next turn.. (name any good removal you can think of.. trophy/beast within etc.) But in a 5-7 meta it's a good inclusion :) I wish sometimes I could play some flashy cards like that haha.
@kurtisohlhausen1538
@kurtisohlhausen1538 4 года назад
Been looking forward to this. My cousin is buying this deck me I'm going after the abzan deck. Stay safe and ty for everything you guys do.
@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2
@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2 4 года назад
The same thing that Josh did wish Emmara to get around the tap trigger. Paradise Mantle, Springleaf Drum. These ones also ramp incidentally.
@thesimiccombine3192
@thesimiccombine3192 4 года назад
"Kalamx, who we will be calling lightning butt." That just made my day, guys.
@shadowjeric
@shadowjeric 4 года назад
Vehicles were the first thought I had, so love that you guys suggested smuggler's copter.
@leonixioussora4066
@leonixioussora4066 4 года назад
Just as a thought, Even though your version of the deck edit wouldn't revolve around creatures. Sprout Swarm, in my eyes, would be a must. Tap your commander to cast and copy and even use any extra creatures/mana before your turn to cast. In my experience, this can add up over time, especially if your casting on everyone else's turn.
@jttownsend3576
@jttownsend3576 4 года назад
At least with "Partner with", you can search your deck for the partner and put it into your hand when you cast the other. Which helps with getting their synergy together. Your insight is valuable. Thanks guys!
@aidanwright3037
@aidanwright3037 4 года назад
If you want to make Kalamax infinitely huge, it's also good to consider Chandra's Ignition.
@TheSolidschuyler
@TheSolidschuyler 4 года назад
2003 Seedborn Muse feeling disrespected “...Prophet of kruphix getting this all started...”
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад
Cryptolith Rite, Rishkar Peema Renegade and Paradise Mantle would also be interesting for Kalamax, allowing it to tap for the mana it needs for its instants.
@dennisbradford7216
@dennisbradford7216 4 года назад
The green impetus isn't a lure effect as Jimmy and Josh implied it was: it only requires the enchanted creature to be blocked-- it doesn't make everything block it.
@TomMKW
@TomMKW 4 года назад
growth spiral would be really good in this deck, i think. It is 2cmc ramp to cast your commander, AND it's also an instant which lets you draw cards late game when you need it.
@skykur
@skykur 4 года назад
tomschrauwen pretty sure it’s included with the deck
@Legaleagle0200
@Legaleagle0200 4 года назад
@@skykur I believe this is in reference to them saying it's not so great.
@TomMKW
@TomMKW 4 года назад
@@skykur you're right. i''m stupid
@6LordMortus9
@6LordMortus9 4 года назад
The Twinning Staff was featured in a video by The Spike Feeders. Really interesting.
@XXXSlinkster420XXX
@XXXSlinkster420XXX 4 года назад
I feel as though Strionic Resonator will do very well within a build with ol Thunder Butt.
@Atron420
@Atron420 4 года назад
Nascent Metamorph should have "Must be blocked by at least 1 creature. When it is blocked you do the effect"
@spencersonnier1
@spencersonnier1 4 года назад
Also no mention of Paradise Mantle or Springleaf Drum? I think those would be sweet with Kalamax. Let’s him tap to make mana and double spells.
@nik700
@nik700 4 года назад
Kalimax: It's forking awesome
@Depp0vom0Dienst
@Depp0vom0Dienst 4 года назад
Wait a second.... is it just me or does that guy in the background on "turnabout" look like Josh? 47:55
@gmf1995
@gmf1995 4 года назад
Nope, it´s not only you :D first thing I thought when I saw this artwork ..... same profile, same haircut .... ^^ give JLK some rounder glasses => Turnabout background dude
@zangetsugerald796
@zangetsugerald796 4 года назад
Hey jimmy and Josh! Just wanted to let you guys know Thank you guys for all your hard work and bringing us all this amazing commander information!
@audreymcgovern1345
@audreymcgovern1345 4 года назад
When can we expect to see game knights when you play 4 out of the 5 commander decks
@bluedog4248
@bluedog4248 4 года назад
It will probably be either April 21st, which is the date for online release, or may somethingith, when the paper release happens
@vert2048
@vert2048 4 года назад
@@bluedog4248 Do you think they'll also do one for Ikoria?
@lindakan9809
@lindakan9809 4 года назад
@@vert2048 probably not, ikoria is linked to this one anyways and they said the next one will be in a couple months which would be too late for the ikoria main set
@audreymcgovern1345
@audreymcgovern1345 4 года назад
@@bluedog4248 thanks
@dcw8284
@dcw8284 4 года назад
We could have a five way match. That'd be awesome. And switch things up.
@zacgardner7852
@zacgardner7852 4 года назад
4:37 'Lightning butt Bzz; cracks me up everytime x'D
@DatDude311
@DatDude311 4 года назад
"sim-yoo-lack-rum" = the personification of a "sim-yoo-lay-shun"
@jollygreenjackson5787
@jollygreenjackson5787 4 года назад
Can’t believe Josh didn’t bring up Fatestitcher once in the whole video
@tilleruez6869
@tilleruez6869 4 года назад
Oh gosh i'm so glad to see your review! Goldfish made their video about mardu precon so poorly that many players still have no clue what to think about it. For the moment i think it looks pretty weak in comparison to others but i'd like to hear what you guys have to say. I feel that if you see any future for Ruthless Regiment it may be the one deck of my choice, even if the rest gives us much more right from the box. Looking forward for your next reviews :D
@robert2063
@robert2063 4 года назад
Lets see Swarm Intelligence, Thousand-year storm you will be golden
@notalgeria
@notalgeria 4 года назад
Cryptolithe rite is about 4 bucks right now and seems pretty nice in kalamax
@ketchumall8243
@ketchumall8243 4 года назад
Something that the Jumbo Commander pointed out about this precon that i liked that i feel Jimmy and Josh missed was that, even more than being an instants matter deck, this deck likes to attack. All of the commanders get the most out of their abilities by attacking (yes Kalamax doesn't have to attack to become tapped, but thats the simplest way) If you think about the deck that way all potential commanders can work in tandem. That way of thinking is also why Etali and Nascent Metamorph make sense in the deck, as they need to attack to trigger. I feel thats a large reason why Lightning greeves made it in as well. Haste helps with attacking.
@arturol.m.7245
@arturol.m.7245 4 года назад
Pako is very similar to Paco, the way we call “Franciscos” (Francis) here in México. So yeah, U can call it Francis, I know I will.
@velkejkoren
@velkejkoren 4 года назад
Pako literally means dumbass in czech
@arturol.m.7245
@arturol.m.7245 4 года назад
Štěpán Řebík haha that’s good to know
@Yakkosprite
@Yakkosprite 4 года назад
I'll call it Pancho
@itchyprince3793
@itchyprince3793 4 года назад
Štěpán Řebík lol
@joshuahamer2313
@joshuahamer2313 4 года назад
Fellas thanks for all the work so far and too come. Hope y'all rest when you can in all this craziness in the world of mtg and irl
@andrewspears8891
@andrewspears8891 4 года назад
You basically want Nascent Metamorph to trigger after the declare blocker phase.
@Cryonicity
@Cryonicity 4 года назад
A great way to look at this tap restriction is to look at Josh's old deck from GameKinghts where Emarra needed to tap.
@zephyrgarrettson6473
@zephyrgarrettson6473 4 года назад
I have recently been playing on untap.in because of the quarantine, and on untap they let you use cards that have been spoiled. I built a Xyris deck on there and it is very good and very fun, playing a wheel of fortune or windfall or similar and making 21 tokens, and then untapping and playing craterhooof? yes please. The political aspect with the commanders card draw ability is also fun, almost every turn I would make a deal with someone like "hey, if I attack you with Xyris this turn will you do this for me?" Its a really fun deck, I love temur, I love tokens, I love politics, and I love craterhoof. Its the perfect deck
@thehumanjukebox77
@thehumanjukebox77 4 года назад
As a budget way to tap down the commander, I would include Holdout Settlement, Survivor's Encampment and Springleaf Drum, For instant synergies, I would add Refuse//Cooperate, Ral, Storm Conduit, Spelltwine, Wild Ricochet, Repeated Reverberation and Thousand Year Storm
@VentusVee
@VentusVee 4 года назад
Josh is totally going to be the one playing this...... →_→
@nathanorwick3671
@nathanorwick3671 2 года назад
I personally like burn spells in Kalamax with the fork loop. For instance, Chandras Ignition or Gravitic Punch, plus a fork just automatically wins the game because the feedback loop ends with three instances of the base card if you cast it.
@lancerevil
@lancerevil 4 года назад
I just literally watched the Ral, Storm Conduit price jump form $1.50 to $5.00 on TCG player lol
@sglied1320
@sglied1320 4 года назад
lancerevil I’m happy I got the stained glass one now from my first secret lair.
@lancerevil
@lancerevil 4 года назад
Sglied13 I picked up a Nm one yesterday for the $1.50 price haha
@DreamDoser
@DreamDoser 4 года назад
But it's back down now
@lancerevil
@lancerevil 4 года назад
SleepyBenzo thank god lol
@jgiesler
@jgiesler 4 года назад
I like that Pako and Haldan don't need to be both on the field. You can play Pako and swing with him a couple times, put the cards into exile, and then later play Haldan to play some of those cards.
@aKamikazeSuperstar
@aKamikazeSuperstar 4 года назад
Consider instants with Convoke: Chord of Calling, Sundering Vitae, and Stoke the Flames?
@themanfromerf
@themanfromerf 4 года назад
Turnabout + Narset's Reversal also goes infinite with Primal Amulet. Cast Turnabout, tapping Primal Wellspring, let the copy resolve, untapping your Primal Wellspring, then cast Narset's Reversal with Primal Wellspring, copying it and returning Turnabout and Narset's Reversal, to your hand, and so on. Generates infinite mana and storm count.
@Menelker
@Menelker 4 года назад
Table of EDH Players Xyris Player: "Who wants to draw three cards?" That one guy at the table: "HIT ME DADDY!" Everyone else: (ಠ_ಠ)
@BananaNationTV
@BananaNationTV 4 года назад
turnabout and wilderness reclamation are bombs here with expansion//explosion. Hold Priority and float mana from wilderness reclamation at end step (double mana), cast turnabout (triple mana), cast explosion for 40 dmg/draw 40
@Jacob_Friis
@Jacob_Friis 4 года назад
12:37 Well, you don't have to play the exiled cards the same turn as they get exiled. Haldan just want them to have fetch-counters on them.
@davidshaw7682
@davidshaw7682 4 года назад
I'm surprised Paradise Mantle and quicksilver dagger didn't get a mention.
@andrewsigrist9981
@andrewsigrist9981 4 года назад
35:02 narset reversal doesn't make your commander arbitrarily large because it returns the spell to hand so when your copy resolves, the only legal target will be the original spell
@jonahwitte4506
@jonahwitte4506 4 года назад
The copy doesn’t need to resolve. Kalamax gets the counter when you actually create the copy.
@andrewsigrist9981
@andrewsigrist9981 4 года назад
This is true, but it still doesnt loop. You cast bolt (whatever, the spell doesnt matter) I cast narset's reversal targeting bolt (R1) Kalamax creates a copy of narset's reversal (R2) which I target at R1 So right now the stack goes R2 targeting R1 R1 targeting Bolt Bolt R2 resolves returning R1 to my hand and creating another copy of reversal (R3) That copy now has 2 legal targets, R2 which is currently resolving, or the bolt because R1 has been returned to my hand. If I target R2 it will fizzle because R2 will come off the stack before R3 resolves. If I target bolt, I get a bolt and bolt returns to your hand. Either way it doesnt loop.
@BaruyrSarkissian
@BaruyrSarkissian 2 года назад
@@andrewsigrist9981 I don't get why you would resolve R2 before R3 ?
@andrewfornes5458
@andrewfornes5458 4 года назад
Not sure if it will get listed but "Arena of the Ancients" is the perfect card for the Elemental Dinosaur legend.
@kaboomgamingyt6147
@kaboomgamingyt6147 4 года назад
I am surprised that they didn’t suggest Spark double
@CaptBackwards
@CaptBackwards 4 года назад
have TWO commander dinosaurs copying double the spells
@unbanrofellos5786
@unbanrofellos5786 4 года назад
Tbh Spark Double just goes in every blue deck
@kylethompson7641
@kylethompson7641 4 года назад
Spark double is a $3 card currently. They likely skipped it due to the price cap.
@unbanrofellos5786
@unbanrofellos5786 4 года назад
@Obi-Wan Kenobi oh boy now thats synergy. I never even thought about that lol
@primespeakersanders5561
@primespeakersanders5561 4 года назад
I’ve been brewing “oops, all spells” with Kalamax. This commander looks so fun
@CriticoDeNo0bs
@CriticoDeNo0bs 4 года назад
Nobody: Literally nobody Josh: *Forking awesome*
@hotjoker07
@hotjoker07 4 года назад
Primal empathy in a Animar deck. You often have the biggest creature (Eldrazi) or you can always put the +1/+1 on Animar which futher helps your deck.
@royalathenian2187
@royalathenian2187 4 года назад
i like the goaded cards because it gives me an easy choice on what to swap out
@wbw911
@wbw911 4 года назад
Not sure if this has been pointed out But cost reduction should be explored Unlike raw ramp, this has the potential to go exponentially About instants one of the best would be Manamorphose, a storm staple that nets you mana and card advantage Some other stuff that could break the game are utilising some of the Split Second cards as Lightning Butt's trigger ability could even copy those spells Anyways thanks a lot for the content and analysis, it's been great to have you guys showing the format to the world~
@ImARedeemedBird
@ImARedeemedBird 4 года назад
Mizzix's Mastery: go search that card it's very good in this deck. It's a game winner in my Adeliz list
@mgg6186
@mgg6186 4 года назад
If you got super lucky you can play on Turn 5 all Lands in your Deck. Therefor you need Twinning Staff, Klamax (tapped), a Fork Spell and Crop Rotation. You cast Crop Rotation, then sacrifice one Land (additional cost). Then you copy it with a Fork then you copy the Fork with Kalamax and Twinning Staff. Because you just copied you can copy again with Twinning Staff and Fork. So you get always two copys of Fork one is targeting the Fork itself and the other is targeting Crop Rotation till you got all your Lands. I hope that i got this right. If you got Field of the Dead you can also Create a Zombie army next to a boosted Kalamax.
@jimjimmcjomjom8184
@jimjimmcjomjom8184 4 года назад
Can't wait to try this deck.
@spencersonnier1
@spencersonnier1 4 года назад
The only card I disagree with cutting is Hunter’s Insight. I think that card is nuts in this deck.
@skykur
@skykur 4 года назад
Agreed, this card has drawn me huge amounts of cards before. Seems like an auto include with this deck. Copying it to get 2 instances of draw? Yes please
@metalvisionsongcontest7055
@metalvisionsongcontest7055 4 года назад
10 cards in, 10 cards out, 25 $ budget, precisely what TopAndGoProductions used to do with "The Other 99". They surely left a lot of potential views on the table when they quit - but they were the ones who got me to update the Mind Seize precon for Nekusar... and that's how it all started... 😊
@brendanwu23
@brendanwu23 4 года назад
Me when I look at xyris and am like THIS IS A SNAKE LEVIATHAN How does this have flying
@gasainagaro6064
@gasainagaro6064 4 года назад
He use balloon
@draxthemsklonst
@draxthemsklonst 4 года назад
Good point. Buoyancy? It could be due to something like the astral dragons in D&D (they have a 'flight organ' in their heads).
@kylethompson7641
@kylethompson7641 4 года назад
Maybe it's the storm. Everything flies in a tornado:)
@aaronscott7467
@aaronscott7467 4 года назад
This isn't the first Leviathan they've printed with flying
@NathanPixelcraft
@NathanPixelcraft 4 года назад
Surpised that you guys didn't mention Paradise Mantle (unless I missed it). Seems like a really good way to get Kalamax tapped without combat.
@terryduke6502
@terryduke6502 4 года назад
Deflecting swat works even if you only control someone else's commander
@regaleagle6533
@regaleagle6533 4 года назад
Role Reversal helps you get that commander or cause general chaos. Sadly not an instant but what can you do.
@eamonbell6378
@eamonbell6378 4 года назад
Kalamax will forever be nicknamed Carl in my book.
@VerrouSuo
@VerrouSuo 4 года назад
Eh, it has blue in it. I’ll play it.
@ShotensGaming
@ShotensGaming 4 года назад
Springleaf Drum is great in Kalamax!
@LORDARIES100
@LORDARIES100 4 года назад
So what you are telling me is I need to play new ral in the deck.
@metalvisionsongcontest7055
@metalvisionsongcontest7055 4 года назад
"You want to have a couple of ways to tap Kalamax that isn't combat, because it might die otherwise." Basandra, Battle Seraph and Marisi, Breaker of the Coil: *Let me introduce myself to you...*
@kylethompson7641
@kylethompson7641 4 года назад
Not only might it die, but Kathril's deck has the ability to put a vigilance counter on kalamax and shut down part of your engine.
@johngutteridge4735
@johngutteridge4735 4 года назад
Josh - "You're never gonna be like, 'oh no! I have too much mana!' " Me - "You don't know me..."
@marnixw8724
@marnixw8724 4 года назад
Definitely building some form of elemental tribal ish spellslinger deck with Omnath and Young pyromancer :)
@fortnitogaming9405
@fortnitogaming9405 4 года назад
Kalamax make me think about Temur clover 😂 double
@aleavilestv
@aleavilestv 4 года назад
Narset's Reversal doesn't work for infinity copies, but can give you infinite turn with a extra turn spell because you can bounce the extra turn spell and the narset's reversal, and repeat in every of your extra turns
@HotSaws11
@HotSaws11 4 года назад
Hmm... I'm thinking of a xyris wheel deck that has fevered visions on it.
@aaronscott7467
@aaronscott7467 4 года назад
Make nekusar, except green instead of black
@gregprice4834
@gregprice4834 3 года назад
Fact or fictioned 5 times in one game with multiple copy spells and Kalamax. Very powerful in the deck.
@TabooX1984
@TabooX1984 4 года назад
Regarding 30:01 "Many Magic: the Gathering players ask the question..." Should I upgrade my Commander deck or buy a new pair of underwear from MeUndies?
@12fishcake
@12fishcake 3 года назад
I love these decks so much- Xyris and Pako/Haldan are getting their own decks for me, I think all of them are gonna be fun commanders! Something I love about commander precons is the new opportunities for deck ideas they create (I see them more as 3-5 potential decks with a bunch of stuff to help a few of them) and I think this set pulled that off excellently.
@qua-z5357
@qua-z5357 4 года назад
Who else is thinking in an evil manor about Infinite turn combos in those colors
@Zero4revolution
@Zero4revolution 4 года назад
Besides it is very cute, Eon Frolicker can be considered as protection piece, sometimes that one turn is just all you need :D
@the3-1network65
@the3-1network65 4 года назад
Why aren’t these available on card kingdom yet, and when can I preorder them?
@rogerli5329
@rogerli5329 4 года назад
Release is delayed till May 15
@thetogtube2
@thetogtube2 4 года назад
My LGS allowed me to pre-order yesterday. GAMESCAPE in SF
@xSkye629x
@xSkye629x 4 года назад
CK is currently sorta frozen like many other businesses due to the pandemic, which is why the site haven't updated outside of auto inventory changes. You can still place orders with current inventory, but they won't ship till they're back, and pre-orders are not available until that time either (or shortly after)
@arnaldosantini
@arnaldosantini 4 года назад
Sphinx-Bone Wand was in my Izzet Spellslinger that's gonna turn into Temur Spellslinger. A heck of a good wincon!
@strikereureka4625
@strikereureka4625 4 года назад
Can you do a full overview of all commander decks and how they compare against in various aspects?
@ezrarose5922
@ezrarose5922 4 года назад
Freed from the reel would be extremely good in this deck, allowing you to tap and untap kalamax at will anytime. With wilderness reclamation on the board, you could potentially do this is many times as you want, allowing you to untap kalamax to block, or tap him in response to play a spell and copy it
@kevinlachance669
@kevinlachance669 4 года назад
Xyris is way better as a commander. You get yourself a purphoros or some affect like it and then wheel everyone at the table and bam. It has green so ramp up and have your commander out and if you can just untap with it then just start smacking people for them drawing cards because they deserve it.
@NT-ys3oh
@NT-ys3oh 4 года назад
Kevin Lachance yeah I feel like Xyris is the Elsha of this years commander set.
@michaelkeha
@michaelkeha 4 года назад
In before someone flashes in notion thief and pops Xyris leaving everyone but that person empty handed and you don't even get your tokens clever strat in a vacuum but within commander very fragile
@kevinlachance669
@kevinlachance669 4 года назад
@@michaelkeha Your playing blue. Do with that what you will.
@moyabers9351
@moyabers9351 4 года назад
I also believe fury storm is an autoinclude. It copies another spell but copies itself for each time you have cast your commander that game. It costs 2RR but it can hit the infinite copy train by itself. So you could technically cast this spell after casting your commander and do the infinite copies with your commander getting infinitely large and on your next turn attack with an infinitely large kalamax.
@themoakman
@themoakman 4 года назад
At least we got the word "fetch" this year. That's got to mean something right, right?
@ErasMcras
@ErasMcras 4 года назад
the appeal of eon frolicker for me is playing it as a finisher in chulane. You can use chulane or crystal shard to bounce it to your hand every turn and recast it. While there are more than two players this protects you from whoever you choose. You simply pump turns into a player. This card pretty much goads a player while also making them more powerful. So if you choose the person who was already ahead on board and who is an aggressive non-combo player you make it so they attack your opponents to death. Then when it's a 1v1 you continue to cast it, you will have protection from them so either you can eventually get throughh their board and chip at them, or take time needed to assemble a combo, or just make them deck themselves.
@YBladeY
@YBladeY 4 года назад
5:21
@Monkeydudem2
@Monkeydudem2 4 года назад
Veektor nice catch
@davidengkent7756
@davidengkent7756 4 года назад
Instead of Smuggler's Copter, I'd consider Conqueror's Galleon. Slow, but the commander can crew it, if it survives an attack, you've got a land that can get back spells to recast.
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