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Show Notes:
For the first time ever, Wizards was able to design a Commander precon around a new mechanic from a standard-legal set. On this episode, we're breaking down the SULTAI MUTATE "Enhanced Evolution" deck for our budget upgrade series. We go through the stats, the reprint value, and tell you what cards you should add and what you should take out in order to get this deck closer to it's final form.
Plus, we do a quick course on the rules surrounding Mutate, which are suprisingly intricate and complex. Don't miss it!
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@Kickasscomedy94 4 года назад

“All he has to do is look at someone. Have you ever looked at someone and missed” That... that’s actually a great point

@aidenmacgregorful 4 года назад

Plot armour is the only real solution I can think of, but I'm not really an X-Men fan so what do I know

@EVO1148 4 года назад

To be fair. He has to be directing his face/eyeline at the target, it wouldn't just be where his eyes are looking. (Plus since the beam is quite powerful I wouldn't be surprised if it's hard to control even with the visor)

@aidennoir597 4 года назад

His beams aren't instantaneous, because he didn't shoot lasers. What's actually happening is his eyes are portals to a dimension of pure force, and he's shooting force beams, which are presumably slower than light... You know what, nevermind. I'm taking about force lasers from the punch dimension. Science does not apply. Plot armor is a fine excuse.

@40Found 4 года назад

So I looked it up. Apparently they don't go where he's looking, they go straight out of his face, which means he has to aim his head not his eyes.

@astrielmaahes1116 4 года назад

Light beams shooting out your face, you wont be able to see

@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад

Here's some extra Progenitor Mimic craziness with mutate: Obviously, the copies created by Progenitor Mimic are tokens, so they can't create more copies of their own. HOWEVER... if you mutate something on top of that copy, the copy's ability will now belong to that creature card. It's no longer a token creature, so it can start producing its own copies now.

@MakutaNazo 4 года назад

Of course, I just cast clones copying progenitor mimic, but this is hilarious too

@sphiedd 4 года назад

Hory shit

@hydrainfernos9081 4 года назад

*the otarian College of value wants to know your location*

@dragonballtalk8527 4 года назад

This is better then Jake and joel channel because they got giant heads on a eighty inch tv unlike Josh n jimmy Wang wong

@windstar120025 4 года назад

Then bounce original Progenitor mimic and do this all over again.

@Menelker 4 года назад

Mutate with flicker effects, also known as the "Suddenly going wide" board.

@carwynweller6341 4 года назад

😂

@Nobody-zl3kk 4 года назад

Mutate: *exists* Slippery boggle (& other hexproofers): *My time has come*

@feritperliare2890 4 года назад

You still would do better removing the mutates and play hydras

@marcoshenriques3118 4 года назад

AWAKEN MY MASTERS AY AY AY....

@GarbageKnight 4 года назад

one word : INFECT!

@carumsarene 4 года назад

I love Otrimi's artwork because he's playing hide and seek with a frog-before eating it. He's literally playing with his food.

@jamesd8169 4 года назад

It gives off toothless vibes, imma take it

@jamesd8169 4 года назад

@20Nevan Yarrow if you try to look up lore for otrimi, theres a clip that viven remarks as them having similarities, no wonder brokkos looks so grumpy! XD

@jamesd8169 4 года назад

@20Nevan Yarrow np!

@ozanbingol2320 4 года назад

19:21 Remember, mutate does not help you to cheat commander tax like Derevi. It's an alternative casting cost but you are still casting it.

@Soulus101 4 года назад

Yeah, they kept saying that it did, but pretty sure it doesn't!

@kennethgrose7828 4 года назад

Came here to say the same thing

@fidly4 4 года назад

How have they not figured this out by now? There's so many commanders with alternate costs that work this way.

@carlosbravo6669 4 года назад

They released the notes today and indeed additional costs still apply

@katierumlock6645 4 года назад

They never said a thing about commander tax. They like the alternate casting cost because it’s a 6/6 trample on turn 4, which is really good value.

@joshbutterfield9339 4 года назад

Best part of this episode was the clear walkthrough of how Mutate works. Forgot to mention one thing (or I missed it) - when a commander is anywhere on the stack of mutate, the card remains a commander even if it's not on top. Great episode, gents. Well done.

@welshmanthebestbanana3635 4 года назад

jimmy: "should we talk about how mutate works?" josh:"eeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......... just the short version" 2 hours later... "now onto the deck!"

@Vina.Acecook 4 года назад

Jimmy, Silent Arbiter is originally from Fith Dawn, the last set of the og Mirrodin block, not Conspiracy ^^"

@bendertusepaki8995 4 года назад

Happy to see that some et else catch that!

@sebastianbaumruker80 4 года назад

Heard him say that and immediately started to look through the comments so that I wouldn't double post is :P

@igniteaxiom 4 года назад

i find it odd how often they don't know the history of cards. they did the same thing with moonlight bargain when it was reprinted in C18. thinking it was an original print.

@portlandaustin 4 года назад

They just aren't that old.

@Vina.Acecook 4 года назад

@@igniteaxiom I think it's cuz they didn't start to play until much later.

@wh1tepanther086 4 года назад

Definitely surprised they didn’t recommend Sea-Dasher Octopus from the Ikoria main set. Cheap mutate cost that gives you card draw, and at instant speed as well. Definitely one I’ll be using. Great video guys, gave me some great ideas.

@azsamsiizbrah 4 года назад

Great videos, this whole week I was waiting excited for the next precon deck upgrade guide. Your videos will help me choose which decks to buy so I can start playing EDH for the first time, keep up the great work!

@okashiromi5541 4 года назад

Fun fact: if you go to the official wotc website there is a page there with "vivien field notes" and the entry on Otrimi says he might be a youngling of Brokkos species. So like, flavor 100. Also great vid!

@stufferfish2226 4 года назад

43:16 I really like Progenitor Mimic in a clone deck because what you guys forgot to mention is that if you mutate ontop one of the token copies it is no longer a toke, so it will also copy itself each turn

@Dalenthas 4 года назад

Pack Rat's first ability is a characteristics defining effect, it'll override any P/T that you Mutate on top of it.

@snakeman830 4 года назад

It doesn't, actually. Mutating overrides Power and Toughness of any creature that's not on top. Pack Rat's text isn't an override effect, it's defining what it is in the first place. See: Quicksilver Gargantuan.

@misterdoctor9693 4 года назад

@@snakeman830 And just when I thought I had a handle on how Mutate works... This makes no sense.

@Soundwave190 4 года назад

@@snakeman830 Check the release notes, they specifically identify this case as overwriting the P/T of the topmost object. With Pack Rat, unless its the topmost creature, it is potentially going to die if you mutate it and control no other rats.

@cornvus1313 4 года назад

@@misterdoctor9693 As they mentioned in the video actually means has so when it comes to p/t changing it is still effected because its ability really means "This creature's power and toughness is equal to the number of rats" the stars one the card have no gameplay effect in the rules of magic, they are stars to make it simple for us to understand, even if pack rat had 20/20 written in the p/t box the card wouldn't really be different, it would just be more confusing

@flaviooliveira7610 4 года назад

You are correct. Pack Rat was a terrible example. I'm guessing neither Josh or Jimmy knew how the rules worked for characteristic-defining abilities at the time of making this video. Definitively do not add Pack Rats to your mutating deck!

@lorenfarque1571 4 года назад

"Gotta be careful about single target removal." (Thrun, the Last Troll breaking through the walls) "MY TIME IS NOW."

@LovedandTheLover 4 года назад

Right? This deck loves him

@gibbysg8143 4 года назад

One of my first thoughts of what I’d add to this deck

@PhenomVenom154 4 года назад

First card that came to mind for me !

@joeyg7520 4 года назад

Gladecover scout has entered the chat

@DeathSpeach 4 года назад

I'd also recommend phantom nantuko

@doccastro 4 года назад

Regarding the confusion of commander tax, Yuriko and Derevi says Put this creature while mutate is cast this as mutate so Commander Tax apply to otrimi's mutate cost since your casting it.

@likemybird97 4 года назад

Spark Double from WAR would be nuts since it skips the legendary rule

@nicolaslambert7244 4 года назад

Helm of the host while we are at it ?

@CS-yo9iq 4 года назад

Was gonna mention HoH as well

@Someone-lg6di 4 года назад

You can copy mutate creatures to get rid of the legendary card type and then copy. No need to have legendary effects

@WillisPtheone 4 года назад

Just make sure the top card is not Legendary and you are good to go with clones. It only has the characteristics of the top card.

@bluedog4248 4 года назад

Yes! The one I’ve been waiting for

@silverwolf340 4 года назад

Ye same

@JurassicMoose 4 года назад

Partner commanders from this deck for me

@jackoshaughnessy711 4 года назад

Commander tax still applies to mutate, it’s an alternate casting cost, not an activated ability

@MaxMckayful 4 года назад

90's X0-men theme was my opening song for my college radio show. Am continually impressed by the opening songs on this show. Great choice!

@dragonmastersk7913 4 года назад

I'm so hyped for all the new cards... Really hope to get the Jeskai & Mardu decks

@kurtisohlhausen1538 4 года назад

Sweet now I can see what's in this deck can't wait. Ty guys

@MajinVegeta1 4 года назад

Woohoo! Wanted this one for a while!

@TripsAhoy 4 года назад

I grew up hearing that song and its stuck in my brain forever!

@andrewdoviak3920 4 года назад

I love this channel! My playgroup always watches, and my friend Jason sends a text when a new episode is out. Thank you for your content and the laughs!

@Mcfluffy123 4 года назад

A person of culture

@andrewdoviak3920 4 года назад

It’s my boy Jason Brown, sorry

@OhNoTheFace 4 года назад

Something funny about the blink, exile, etc being, "Surprise! We were actually 4 creatures :O" Fun

@jaredcovington3930 4 года назад

Me: Mutate looks sweet!!!! CZ: This is how mutate works with all these cards..... Me: Going with the Mana dork commander.

@DeathSpeach 4 года назад

Not that the commander is bad... That's just a specialty deck to make.... Hail Hydra!

@feritperliare2890 4 года назад

You are doing the right thing mutate is bad I mean seriously most mutate effects forces you to focus all your cards on 1 easily killable creature and are overpriced version of other cards cause you dont bestow a creature you basically replace an already existing creature

@douglaszelazny1094 4 года назад

Two words. Slippery bogle.

@pedrodejesus6854 4 года назад

1. I love the primary commanders artwork 2. Thanks so much for the review and help with making the deck better 3. I really can't wait to get this deck a play against people

@Pabloski33 4 года назад

Thanks for including a section on how Mutate works!

@xicufwm 4 года назад

55:15 wait a minute, why does Jimmy say that Utami can "always come back for the same price over and over again"? Mutate is an alternate cost, not an ability like Yuriko's or Derevi's. This means you HAVE to pay the commander tax every time you Mutate it. I hope this was just a slip of the tongue and not something on which they based the whole deck around. They do talk about a turn 4 Utami mutaded, but I didn't catch any other mention of mutating it a second time.

@jonathankowatch6947 4 года назад

one recommendation for this deck that wasn't mentioned, Strionic Resonator, 2 mana-> double the mutate trigger abilities

@Someone-lg6di 4 года назад

Only 1 doubled

@jonasmolina1835 4 года назад

Just placed an order this morning using the link!

@Oridemos 4 года назад

i love how since everyones stuck at home they are helping a smaller channel grow.

@JohnDoe-df7bl 4 года назад

Thanks for the birthday gift guys

@thomashearne4670 4 года назад

My favorite interaction is with etrata the silencer. If she exiles a mutate pile she instantly causes the owner of that pile to lose the game as long as there are 3 or more creatures in that pile lol

@pinhead61187 4 года назад

how? it's considered one creature

@thomashearne4670 4 года назад

@@pinhead61187 not when it changes zones

@DarcShinobi 4 года назад

Mutate and Morph was my first thought!! I have a Manifest and Morph deck. Will be adding mutate immediately.

@migsterman67 4 года назад

Aaaargh! Was hoping for your take on the Bant / Kithril deck 😔. Never mind....this is just as awesome! I can't believe I've only just started Commander! The years I've wasted. Love the content guys.

@jamesd8169 4 года назад

Kathrill seems like it can get absolutely MASSIVE if played with izoni, too bad it hates bogs...XD

@gavinmartinek2124 4 года назад

I think you mean Abzan...

@jamesd8169 4 года назад

@@gavinmartinek2124 bah, details details! SWARM THE FIELD!!!!

@migsterman67 4 года назад

Gavin Martinek, ah yes! You’re quite right! Thanks!

@GeneralTso637 4 года назад

I’m surprised that Jarad didn’t make it into kathrill. She(he? I dunno) gets arbitrarily massive if you put Zetalpa and Akroma into the bin with buried alive, so you can’t swing in with double strike, kill them, and then sacrifice her to kill the other 2 or at least deal a lot of damage in response to a board wipe

@tcarlos210 4 года назад

I love this deck idea. I can't wait to play with mutate and to come up with some silly combinations.

@seasnek7024 4 года назад

Bought this deck so I'm really looking forward to upgrading it with all my lonely 2 drop regenerate and indestructible creatures just lying around

@lupojw6566 4 года назад

Exited for this deck!

@joshuamelo7618 4 года назад

Interested to see which style of mutate ends up taking the top spot. My money is on Abzan reanimation with Nethroi but missing out on blue is a big hit. Awesome show you guys :D

@mintspears6714 4 года назад

Deck building is my favorite thing about Magic aside from the Gathering, and I can't wait to both play around with tuning each of these AND watching other people pull these new decks out so I can see what they are capable of. This deck in particular is the one I am most excited to see tuned

@Rocjhead118 4 года назад

I love the intro. Please never change. XD

@captainamerica9363 4 года назад

I am honestly most excited for this deck

@clanechelon 4 года назад

A good recommendation I saw on another channel (nitpicking nerd if you are interested in watching them) is Infinite reflection. This can get insanely broken if you don't have a legendary on top of your mutated creature. I'm also going to experiment with the myriad creatures. The blue one is probably the best as she as a lower cmc and allows you to draw a card, but I feel this can get spicy in my casual playgroup. Edit : Unless I'm mistaken, if you mutate on a creature with +1/+1 counter, you keep the counters which is why there's so many hydra in the deck as they boost Otrimi. I do agree it's a lot slower tho due to the high cmc

@michaelleemontgomery 4 года назад

love the deck tech!! You need to let ppl know that Card kingdom is not shipping right now, when you do their plug.

@BlacklistSanji 4 года назад

I just want to mention, that you can use Needle Specter instead of Dreamstealer if i am not totally wrong.

@cheeseandchill3345 4 года назад

that was the one I was waiting for !

@el_duck6577 4 года назад

to stop target removal, just add some small hexproof cards so that you can mutate the big creatures onto them and then they can't get clapped

@mclainmartin3323 4 года назад

They can still target the mutate right?

@Guevon_Pajaro 3 года назад

@@mclainmartin3323 nope, once you mutate the whole stack is considered as one, chonky creature. So inherits the hexproof

@waffleman2211 4 года назад

yo Progenitor Mimic is one of my favorite cards of all time. Back when I was in high school, a friend really wanted to get me into the game as more than just a super casual, so he gave me a few cards to power up my filthy casual deck, and that was one of them. It was pretty much new at the time, and I loved it. Copied my Beguiler of Wills, and stole everything. It was bonkers.

@The-0ni 4 года назад

Amazing card for this deck is Elusive Tormentor. Its a vampire that flips for 1 colorless and discard a card. It becomes Indestructible, Hexproof, Unblockable and its only down side is it cant block.

@shinmentakezou4801 4 года назад

I think Brokkos is the better Commander, adding cheap undestructible and unblockable creatures for Commander damage. Some suggestions for further budget upgrades: "Elusive Tormentor // Insidiuos Mist" A 6/6 Commander with Hexproof, undestructible and unblockable is rediculous "Mythos of Brokkos" is a four mana tutor for permanents "Sea-Dasher octopus" was also missing i think. Thank you very much for your content. You are by far one of the greatest YT- Channels.

@Kairoi89 4 года назад

I built an Energy Commander deck with Hope of Ghirapur as my commander. It went infinite with Ashnod's Altar, Gonti's Aether Heart, and the Modules. I will admit that I only pulled it off once, but it was pretty fun to play other times too.

@Blocker5475 4 года назад

I’m currently setting up a deck that runs with Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder and mutate, this solstice deck will be a great base to work off of

@cannonspectacle5195 4 года назад

Man, I feel like a real idiot for buying two Arcane Signets at $30 each

@jameslinderoth2914 4 года назад

😢

@GigaLordShinyMudkip1 4 года назад

Sorry man, but at least you’ll be getting more.

@georgezamyatin 4 года назад

@Kattywagon29 4 года назад

Sorry that happened to you.

@nickkowalski5209 4 года назад

You probably shouldn't. You got unlucky, that's true, but it's quite a surprise wotc reprinted the card that much

@haingis 4 года назад

good thing I ordered a Cephalid constable before this video was published : also, I've always been trying to find a place for my chilling apparition, but if you're not interested in the discard I would honestly recommend mischievous poltergeist instead

@boredwillow 4 года назад

Small rules thing that y'all probably didn't even know when you made this video, but worth mentioning for people doing these upgrades: at 42:10 Jimmy says that the [*]/[*] in Pack Rat's cost won't matter if you mutate a big thing onto it. Unfortunately, according to the release notes for the set, that's not true. The power and toughness defining ability will override whatever power and toughness are on top. From the article: "If a merged permanent has characteristic-defining abilities, they overwrite the characteristics from the topmost object. For example, if a merged creature has an ability that defines a * in its power or toughness, such as that of Boneyard Mycodrax, that ability overwrites the power and toughness defined by the topmost object of the merged creature." reference: magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ikoria-lair-behemoths-and-commander-2020-edition-release-notes-2020-04-10

@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад

I can't wait to mutate Brokkos or Otrimi (as commanders) on a Lord of Extinction or Consuming Aberration...

@elephantbat 4 года назад

If only it kept all the creature types of the mutation stack... :(

@victorbourguignon6897 4 года назад

@@elephantbat but it does do something funny atleast with devotion gods if the top card is not the god and the devotion is not met. It becomes a card without a type and so cant be removed

@elephantbat 4 года назад

@@victorbourguignon6897 WHOA! That's SIIICK!!! I think Vindicate or Anguished Unmaking could still hit it even if it's a typeless permanent..... right?

@victorbourguignon6897 4 года назад

@@elephantbat true... since its an over arching category, but otherwise nothing that targets or globaly wraths with mention to a specific type cant affect it.

@gysahlgemuse7208 4 года назад

Dayum what a mindblowing episode o__O

@sgtfigg1 4 года назад

My otrimi deck is gonna have acentcism however u spell that 😂 and a bunch of low cmc hexproof creatures very excited for this sultai stomp deck . 100 percent gonna fit in the new mutate cards when the set drops as well. Very excited for these precons !

@Professor_Smoak 4 года назад

MtG, X-Men, and Pokemon? This episode contained all 3 of my favorite fandoms. Best podcast EVER!

@Fluffkitscripts 3 года назад

One thing about hungering hydra- any amount of counters you invest in it will transfer to the creature you mutate it onto, making otrimi an 8/8 haste on turn four.

@AdamKeeton 4 года назад

This was my favorite song opening!

@carlossoler6563 4 года назад

I never heard alot about putting bestow mechanic and adding it into the deck. ... I personally love the idea if switching tactics.... from tall to wide. With bestow you can board wipe easier.

@RedBossTV 4 года назад

The mutate deck is actually the one I'm most excited to build around actually. New mechanics are fun. The Cycling deck looks strong, but also streamlined to a single direction. My playgroup is building mutate decks with Infect, Slivers, Voltron, Elves and one even came up with a combo version.

@moonlight2870 4 года назад

Cephalid inkshrouder, lotleth troll, key to the city, and other cards that let you discard for powerful effects are pretty good here.

@svengasiorek3328 4 года назад

Just bought this to split it into a Mutate Infect Deck and a Hydra Tribal. Pretty hyped.

@Threeve703 4 года назад

Doing the X-Men theme song at the beginning? Amazing. *chef's kiss*

@jimleeorbitz1738 4 года назад

Thanks for this u guys! Love it!

@mrsausage001 4 года назад

45 seconds in, started with the 90's cartoon x-men theme. This is going to be a good one.

@dakotamcintire7419 4 года назад

There really needs to be a page in the stats overview showing the different stats in how many of the cards fall into multiple categories. For example, how many of the reprints in this deck from the ikoria set count towards the total number of mutate cards, how many of the removal or draw effects fall in with that category, etc.

@ThePoesn 4 года назад

This creature has flash. That means you can do it incredibly fast. Wow Jimmy. Thank you.

@StretchyPlays 4 года назад

I like that they included a minor hydra sub theme because hydras are excellent mutate targets. They keep the +1/+1 counters so if you make a 5/5 hydra and then mutate Otrimi onto him he's 11/11, and can two-shot people. Probably not worth it to keep them all in and focus on hydras, but having a few good ones like Genesis Hydra is awesome.

@rafaelburia3645 4 года назад

Guys you are the best great show once more. Qq... do you have plans to continue shooting game knights within the quarantine?

@monomanamaniac 4 года назад

Hungering hydra would be awesome, it passes on its 1/1 counters, and adds more

@capreus1983 4 года назад

Best deck of all of me’! Can’t wait to play and manipulate it!

@reahutargaryen1573 4 года назад

With the mutate thing, there will be so many possibilities for broken creatures! A deckbuilders dream, since there will probably be a lot of ways of how you can build a strong but still fun deck.

@nickatwork 4 года назад

Every since they introduced mutate I've just been excited to finally play Insidious Mist

@12fishcake 2 года назад

The interactions with mutate have so much potential, the fact all the stuff comes back split into each creature with a blink effect or something is huge, and if someone oblivion rings your big mutated boi and that ends up being removed (not hard with green/blue) you suddenly can go wide with it all, plus any etb effects mixed in there. Also gonna make a lot of people hesitate to pull any mass blink effects.... also if you want that to trigger that interaction yourself, it's way easier to blink your one creature than your whole board (again easy with blue here). Not to mention the interaction with undying...there's a lot here and that's just part of it. Gonna be a lot to pay attention to with this deck!

@unsure4857 4 года назад

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... make a video of gameplay with the upgraded decks going head to head! It is amazing watching out of the box gameplay but I would love to see the upgraded decks gameplay!

@GREENFREAK1432 4 года назад

If you mutate on top of a Theros god and you don’t meet the devotion costs it is an indestructible typless permanent lol

@colefreestone1508 3 года назад

woah!

@arielshalem5698 4 года назад

This opening song just made my day :P

@adamkruse8453 4 года назад

From fifth dawn originally one of my favorite sets

@deanm8408 4 года назад

Excited for coming nathril

@wiggy700 3 года назад

Scute swarm is a great new card that will make this deck that much better! and also because of how creature heavy this deck is I think Vizier of the menagerie is a good card.

@Circular_Square 4 года назад

Has down, my favourite deck. Plus Otrimi is just so cute.

@GaryFromLiberty 4 года назад

Man, editting the gameknights with the mutate deck must have been a lot of work!

@nolifeSnorlax 4 года назад

Pretty sure Silent Arbiter was printed in the original Mirrodin Block (faith dawn?) first :p

@Tyveris 4 года назад

Both of Pack Rat's abilities work whether you place it on the top or the bottom, which means it will have the same power/toughness either way and it can copy itself with all the mutated creatures attatched.

@joelmoore3804 4 года назад

I loved that TV show!

@maxwellnichols3873 4 года назад

Quick rules thing, I'd like to point out mutating onto a */* creature overwrites the PT of the top creature since it is an ability, albeit one that defines a trait.

@draconicarttheartofblades3023 2 года назад

I added Darksteel Myr. Cmc 3, indestructible, its quite good. But yeah, the Constable went into my Otrimi too, among protection like Asceticism

@andricaion9036 4 года назад

Probably the best deck of the C20 precon

@ProjectLee101 4 года назад

If possible, please demonstrate the power of the commander decks in game.

@aaronjesse4913 4 года назад

I don't know if I'm correct, but I believe since Mutate is an alternate casting cost and not an ability that commander tax would still stack, since it still counts as being cast. Still a great card, still ordered the deck, but based on the references I've seen as such with Fist of Suns and Ur-Dragon v.s. Yuriko, it is the difference in the ability placing a creature on the battlefield and casting it for a reduced or simply alternate cost.

@submandave1125 4 года назад

If you can get a mutate creature with Hexproof (or better, Shroud), then a Phantasmal Illusion copy also gains that protection, solving its Achilles heel.

@patchesthejaybird8431 4 года назад

I would say that auspicious starix is is one of the best cards in the deck since it brings so much card advantage and there are many creatures so it's unlikely to whiff. Another good card to add is sea dasher octopus,it's a 3 drop unlockable with when ever sea dashed octopus deals combat damage you draw a card.