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Christopher Nolan's 2020 blockbuster Tenet features an outside of a great sci-fi action adventure movie, but also a pretty empty inside -- all stemming from its all-in mentality with the concept of time inversion. Tenet looks and plays cool but at the same time doesn't feel like much, which becomes very evident if you compare it to something like Inception for example. So in today's Anatomy of a Failure, let's see how -- despite succeeding in concept the way we've talked about in videos about The Old Guard and Gemini Man before -- Tenet suffers from the negative side of high-concept.
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Tenet (2020)
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@cowsandwich
@cowsandwich 3 года назад
"did you enjoy it?" "loved it" makes an anatomy of a failure video on it
@TomEyeTheSFMguy
@TomEyeTheSFMguy 3 года назад
Did you even watch half of the video before making this comment?
@yanjirujan193
@yanjirujan193 3 года назад
Just talk to Star Wars fan about how they love the franchise but hate some of the movies
@austinjones1084
@austinjones1084 3 года назад
haven't seen the video yet but you can like a movie that's a failure- they're not mutually exclusive
@TheBackOfTheClassroom
@TheBackOfTheClassroom 3 года назад
@@TomEyeTheSFMguy it's a video about Tenet. The comment before watching the video is completely appropriate 😁.
@tabaflip
@tabaflip 3 года назад
You know it's possible to notice flaws in stuff you like, right? I could write a novel about how one of my favorite movies of all time, 2004's Dawn of the Dead, has a horrible ending, most characters are shit, save for CJ, whose catch phrase "Fucking nursery school!" I use myself to this day... Etc... A normal person has the capacity to understand their subjective views, while also keep an objective view. If you can't... Well... Got bad new for you.
@chickenlegsTV
@chickenlegsTV 3 года назад
People need to realize that critiquing a movie doesn't mean it's bad at all.
@shirubionicle
@shirubionicle 3 года назад
Criticizing means it's bad, CRITIQUING doesn't.
@themasteronhigh1665
@themasteronhigh1665 3 года назад
@@shirubionicle No, No it doesn't. you can criticize and still agree. See, just did it.
@isekaiguy9113
@isekaiguy9113 3 года назад
Criticism is simply a way for people who think they are smarter than others to fuel their egos. Because people will continue to love and watch shit no matter how strong the criticism is. Just look at the fans of Transformers - they are just happy and don't give a damn about the critics. The only people, who really should care about critic - are movie-makers, to learn their mistakes. The rest should don't give a shit.
@deadschooled
@deadschooled 3 года назад
But this dog sh!+ was bad.....
@knowdaqueen177
@knowdaqueen177 3 года назад
@Benjamin McCann exactly some of my favorite movies are considered “bad” and I love picking apart what’s “wrong” with them just as much as I enjoy watching them.
@joshuaalbertwolfe9986
@joshuaalbertwolfe9986 3 года назад
My thoughts on the movie after I watched it: “It was really awesome to watch, but I had no idea what the heck was happening.”
@Nickalzz
@Nickalzz 3 года назад
I made it through 60% of it and turned to my wife and said do you have any idea what the fuck is going on? She said hell no. This movie had a lot of potential but honestly I think it’s one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
@bobbyhillthuglife
@bobbyhillthuglife 3 года назад
i defy anyone to name more than two characters’ names after having watched this movie without checking imdb
@su_K3N
@su_K3N 3 года назад
@@bobbyhillthuglife the protagonist, Neil, Sator, and Kat
@2kmichaeljordan438
@2kmichaeljordan438 3 года назад
This movie is better if you turn your brain off. If you try to figure it out, you won’t enjoy this movie at all, it’s not fun to try to go back and try to understand it
@hansgruber9685
@hansgruber9685 3 года назад
@@2kmichaeljordan438 It was boring af no matter how I watched it.
@MrHantz101
@MrHantz101 3 года назад
The most impressive thing about this movie for me was my newfound respect for Robert Pattinson. I never watched any of the Twilight films, so my only opinion of him was a sparkly romantic vampire. But I came away from this going, "Yeah, Robert played a damn good role."
@prathamyadav2508
@prathamyadav2508 3 года назад
He has been incredible in all the movies he's been since Twilight.
@MweepleSyrup
@MweepleSyrup 3 года назад
Check out The Lightouse. His performance in that gives me hope for his upcoming Batman
@MrHantz101
@MrHantz101 3 года назад
@@MweepleSyrup I was just talking to a friend last night about that movie. Its on my watch list. You recommend it?
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 3 года назад
@@MweepleSyrup Pattinson's actually a damn good actor. It's unfortunate that he was stuck in Twilight in his early career but he's proven himself a tour de force in the years since.
@viljamtheninja
@viljamtheninja 3 года назад
@@MrHantz101 If you haven't seen The Lighthouse yet, then yes, watch it, definitely. It's... very different from your typical blockbuster, but it's a fantastic movie. He was also pretty good in Good Time, which I wasn't too fond of but plenty of other people are and I will say that it's very well-executed.
@lorenzmayer7734
@lorenzmayer7734 3 года назад
Never before have I been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with
@why_tho_
@why_tho_ 3 года назад
Same here🤣
@lorenzmayer7734
@lorenzmayer7734 3 года назад
@Benjamin McCann just a simple meme joke, nothing serious lol
@zainsalazar3382
@zainsalazar3382 3 года назад
I thought it was the aciddddd
@ToroNero
@ToroNero 3 года назад
If Nolan sees this he too would feel offended in a good way.
@yourfatboy5359
@yourfatboy5359 3 года назад
Why would you be offended by this?
@Simon-ow6td
@Simon-ow6td 3 года назад
I really felt that watching the movie it was constantly cool and an interesting puzzle to wrap your head around, but I never cared about any of the stakes or characters so I never felt invested.
@Shrimp_Insurance
@Shrimp_Insurance 3 года назад
Exactly this, also I really liked the main actor they chose but unfortunately felt some of his lines fell flat and didn't reach Nolan level caliber
@bozitrapboy
@bozitrapboy 3 года назад
i think that's just what is, a fun movie to wrap your head around with
@connorbennett7466
@connorbennett7466 3 года назад
@@bozitrapboy First 10 minutes were "fun" I guess, rest of the movie is obnoxious emotionless and aggravatingly confusing
@funofboredom
@funofboredom 3 года назад
@@connorbennett7466 I have no idea what was going on in the end battle. Bunch of guys with blue and red badges shooting but we can't see what they are shooting at. We hardly see any bad guys or maybe the bad guys are wearing the same color uniforms as the good guys? And then they shoot RPGS at the same time at a building and it both explodes and implodes, and I understand that it's supposed to be the center point of the mission or something, but why....?
@connorbennett7466
@connorbennett7466 3 года назад
@@funofboredom I have no idea Nolan tried so hard to be smart with this and forgot to make sense and the movie just fell flat on its face
@ReelRejects
@ReelRejects 3 года назад
God I fucking love this channel. It's weird, I agree with everything said...and yet I still was so wrapped up in the theater experience that I still liked the film a lot. Even though I didnt know what the hell was happening or cared about the characters.
@wampameat5076
@wampameat5076 3 года назад
Holy cow hello there
@mistsu1171
@mistsu1171 3 года назад
Yes!!! 🤯This movie has this hypnotise feeling that sucks you into it although we know that there aren't much to the story.
@dr.sleaseball441
@dr.sleaseball441 3 года назад
this was the best movie i watched and did not understand a thing!
@purpleswag1490
@purpleswag1490 3 года назад
It’s cause of the lazy cliched script that thinks it’s way smarter than it actually is
@ProsparicDropbear
@ProsparicDropbear 3 года назад
@@purpleswag1490 Er how is Time Inversion a cliche
@Marvsterer
@Marvsterer 3 года назад
I love how our man Fil Mento calls the main hero of the movie, Pro Tagonist by his name.
@elvibora6218
@elvibora6218 3 года назад
I don't know his name
@paddipat
@paddipat 3 года назад
@@elvibora6218 His name is "Protagonist"
@SNNetwork
@SNNetwork 3 года назад
did u even see the fuxking movie thats his nane
@noobmasterruben5167
@noobmasterruben5167 3 года назад
Yeah
@seanjames6000
@seanjames6000 3 года назад
LOL
@scorpionz44
@scorpionz44 3 года назад
The emotional connection would've helped but I just think Nolan actively tried to avoid that. ALl his movies have some "love" element and maybe he tried to get away from that for once. The ONLY thing I thought was annoying was that there was SO much exposition, and if it was delivered in a less monotone manner, it would've made up for the lack of emotion
@paradise_valley
@paradise_valley 3 года назад
True. You gotta feel for the guy. His brother Jon added a love story to his Memento Mori short story concept he used for Memento. His following films have love play a part as well. It’s refreshing to not have on here, and the Sator-Kat-Protagonist love triangle they hint at early in is nothing more than business on both sides thank goodness.
@StephNuggs
@StephNuggs 3 года назад
Tenet is no different. The love between the mother and her son and maybe the protagonists love for her. Just badly established and lacking in depth. Simple but he didn't do it well enough
@Prodbyjah464
@Prodbyjah464 2 года назад
Dunkirk, prestige, following, insomnia have nothing don’t have any love elements but ok
@OlafavonGoeding
@OlafavonGoeding 2 года назад
Nolan has been actually criticized for lackluster character motivations and lack of "humanity". Apparently, he tried to fix that with what Anne Hathaway character had to say about love in Interstellar lol.
@Prodbyjah464
@Prodbyjah464 2 года назад
@@OlafavonGoeding you realise interstellar actually has strong emotional moments, it’s not just oh Anne Hathaway said something about love so we must cry no, we actually feel it when cooper makes it off millers planet and finds out he lost 23 years as he watches all the old videos of his kids, it’s actually heartbreaking when he realised he was Murphy ghost all along and he tries to stop himself from leaving. Next time don’t say a stupid comment with even worse grammar without knowing shit from it.
@OdysseyTag
@OdysseyTag 3 года назад
This is actually a Nolan film I'd love to see have a sequel (or prequel ahem). I feel like there's so much potential conceptually as well as space to grow narratively.
@mikfhan
@mikfhan 3 года назад
Yeah a short miniseries like Chernobyl could have flashed out more of the time travel and character motivations, giving them a chance to show proper reactions and easing audience into the whole time inversion thing, it's weird enough to wrap your head around another character already having carried out an action, and what you see is just the events leading up to it in reverse order. AND you can invert the time inversion at any point, AND the whole pincer move thing. Trippy.
@fegeleinherman8587
@fegeleinherman8587 3 года назад
A Tenet series sound like a good idea honestly it'll be probably be confusing as f*ck tho
@Zippypeepee
@Zippypeepee 3 года назад
This should have been his first miniseries.
@profjoshi6326
@profjoshi6326 3 года назад
It is a great theme for an series, because the movie shows only half of the story and the potential for more is endless, like they could make a show about how TeneT was created or the technologie itself, or who the bad guys in the future are, or how....
@logicrules5793
@logicrules5793 3 года назад
Straight up. His lack of character development I'm sure would come around in the second one because it's most likely a prequel. Because of the time travel aspect, the story is told backwards and we effectively just saw the big ending and next movie will be the character building feels that he wanted. People calling this movie bad are just confused because they don't have all the info. Guaranteed once they see the second one they'll reflect and see it as much better. It's like how some songs start out slow and eventually ramp up to a heart pounding beat. I've heard plenty songs that will be gentle for the first minute thirty seconds and then give you a heart attack. If you only like energetic music you might stop listening 30 seconds in and have a bad opinion of the song. But if you listen to the whole thing you might enjoy it. It's the same thing here if you don't watch the second movie you can't accurately judge the story I hope to see a lot more from this franchise
@holybalognajabronies2013
@holybalognajabronies2013 3 года назад
I DEF appreciate this commentary. Inception is one of my favorite films of all time, not just cuz of how cool all of action and concepts of dreams and inspiration and idea implanting are, but b/c I STILL tear up just thinking about that scene of Cobb saying he knew inception was possible b/c he did it to his own wife, and how he KNEW shewant real was b/c of the unbearable weight of the guilt he felt for infecting her mind with the need to wake up from any reality she found herself in. That combination is what made for a truly unforgettable movie.
@choosecheese3225
@choosecheese3225 3 года назад
10:35 is that Film Theory music in reverse? LOL
@bangtwitterandtwicetagram830
@bangtwitterandtwicetagram830 3 года назад
Choose Cheese that was gold
@juanordonezgalban2278
@juanordonezgalban2278 3 года назад
OMFG
@xyx2188
@xyx2188 2 года назад
Another good example of bringing a concept to life was how people reacted seeing Transformers for the first time. Sam was surprised and even the military was caught off guard seeing a deception for the first time. It also makes the characters feel more like real people.
@brucecrawford4948
@brucecrawford4948 3 года назад
I loved Tenet but I know it’s not a film for everyone.
@socksnbiscuits
@socksnbiscuits 3 года назад
I thoroughly enjoyed myself, being alone in the theater helped
@wellyesbutactuallyno9776
@wellyesbutactuallyno9776 3 года назад
You either hate it or love it, no in between.
@lupoblu4790
@lupoblu4790 3 года назад
It’s a film for those who love bad movies
@izs6946
@izs6946 3 года назад
@@wellyesbutactuallyno9776 you can love some parts, concepts, or aspects about a film while also criticizing it for its misgivings, of course there's "in between" Tennet is not a horrible movie at all, it's just lacking in some aspects just like any other film.
@brucecrawford4948
@brucecrawford4948 3 года назад
@@lupoblu4790 Films are subjective to audiences.
@konradschulz7567
@konradschulz7567 3 года назад
This film is different not only in its concept, but also in its concept as a film. It can't be compared with other films like interstellar or inception, because it aims to make the watcher feel or think different things than those movies. You can't judge a turtle by its ability to fly. This movie really is basically only about the concept and the paradoxes and to make you think about it and have fun figuring out how it would work. It is a puzzle, it has no meaning, it is only made to look badass and amazing and to make you put the pieces together.
@willek1335
@willek1335 2 года назад
Exactly. I think some people think conceptually. They're highly open to experience. To solve these high brow concepts is joyous in itself. They can endure the uncertainty of not knowing. When I look at art, I want to look at it a thousand times and still discover new things. That's art to me.
@loshobian
@loshobian 2 года назад
@@willek1335 you can still discover a thousand new things in shitty art too
@Allagi22
@Allagi22 2 года назад
I guess? So you're saying it's just a showcase for cool film sequences and a puzzle with no regard to story or character development? Mystery movies need a coherent through line so that the audience member is ABLE to put the puzzle pieces together. If you apply any logic to Nolan's bizarre introverted entropy premise the plot falls apart.
@as7river
@as7river Год назад
I think film was the wrong format for this kind of story/concept, then. Maybe a book would've worked better because a movie without emotion is just a documentary.
@theprofessionalamateur3090
@theprofessionalamateur3090 3 года назад
"Makes it feel about as special as a lump of bread" Oi, you ain't gotta do lumps of bread like that.
@micaelasparrow650
@micaelasparrow650 3 года назад
Good video. I remember leaving the theater after watching Tenet and being disappointed but not really able to put my finger on why. I think you highlighted really well how a film can be good and still end up hallow. This is the only Nolan film I really have no desire to ever watch again.
@ausis6214
@ausis6214 3 года назад
Watched it a 3rd time and like it even more.
@jesseroel8362
@jesseroel8362 3 года назад
Wait this might sound crazy but you have to watch it at least a second time. I've watched it like five times now and it gets better everytime. First time I got nothing from it and did feel disappointed. Trust me. Watch it again.
@denzeruouji542
@denzeruouji542 3 года назад
I watched it for the second time yesterday and it actually got worse for me, so I guess it kinda depends on the type of person you are.
@savag3guardian
@savag3guardian 8 месяцев назад
They don't go to the airport for inverted bullets. They go to the airport to find what TP (in the past) believes to be fissile material for a nuclear bomb. The inverted fight scene happens because Future Protagonist is at that specific Turnstile since it is the only one he knows is safe to use to save another character. Tenet has its flaws, I'll grant you that. But what the characters are doing and why is very well explained in the film. Every single point where you asked "Why though?" Was explained very well beforehand. The concept of time-travel as explored in Tenet is difficult to understand, but the plot itself is fairly simple to follow.
@loargesnek5371
@loargesnek5371 3 года назад
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@juanordonezgalban2278
@juanordonezgalban2278 3 года назад
As much as I'd like to like the movie, it was emotionally plain.
@wizzyone6789
@wizzyone6789 3 года назад
Get a subscription to the Hallmark channel, if emotion is something you really yearn for.
@LyricsFred
@LyricsFred 3 года назад
I remember when I watched the movie I told my friend, don't you think is weird this guy just discovered all of this crazy shit and he is totally not loosing his mind over it?
@pn8937
@pn8937 3 года назад
@@wizzyone6789 yeah nice idea and all but dont get us wrong but not liking bland films isnt exactly an indication that we would like hallmark channel...We might just like actually good movies like inception and Prestige.
@wizzyone6789
@wizzyone6789 3 года назад
@@pn8937 "Us"? Calm down. you think this is some sort of us-versus-them tribalism? Funny thing is the person running this channel isn't even a honest player. It's all about income from "content" in the end. He is dissecting a movie while stating wrong plot points, which shows he did not pay attention. Did he really not listen to why they went to the airport the first time? I guess all these "content creators" become lazy in the end. Just like Cinema Sins. When your analysis is coming out months late, best to get out with that big clickbait.
@lesbiantrump4230
@lesbiantrump4230 3 года назад
Do you need eMoTiOn to enjoy a film?
@Theyungcity23
@Theyungcity23 3 года назад
10:30 his reaction is existential dread. He asks her about free will. He’s worried about pre determinism or fatalism. Which is particularly interesting for a character in the James Bond sort of role. James Bond knows full well that he has no agency at all. Also he’s not going to have Page’s characters reaction because this is his job he is an agent she wasn’t.
@teardama7320
@teardama7320 3 года назад
JDW just doesn't know how to act.
@izs6946
@izs6946 3 года назад
@@teardama7320 far from it, just watch his other works. In this case, the writers just gave "the protagonist" basically a blank character which has the advantage of flexibility (notice how he barely protests on what's happening around him and his blank character made it easy for him to just accept the new reality he's been thrown at) at the expense of character's internal conflict and development Because, if we give "the protagonist" a more realistic attitude, the movie would go for an additional hour or more just to show him having conflict on this new reality
@_greenrunner_
@_greenrunner_ 3 года назад
It’s too sharp of a left turn tho. It just comes in all of a sudden.
@ZuckerbergsAi
@ZuckerbergsAi 3 года назад
@@izs6946 yes lets make our protagonist completely unemotional, with no reactions or motivations, that will surely help declutter this high-concept mess. The more boring he is, the more time the viewer can try to understand what the fuck is going on
@temperuncentered1753
@temperuncentered1753 3 года назад
Tenet : goes full concept People : we did not understand the concept
@ddd22895
@ddd22895 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@theascendunt9960
@theascendunt9960 3 года назад
The issue at than isn't about the concept. You missed the point.
@SpanglesYT
@SpanglesYT 3 года назад
I did understand everything. the only downside for me is the protagonist character writing is very lacking cause maybe he was intentionally created for Us as a "Player" in "this game" to dive in and let us feel and have compassion with anybody in this movie without him interfering us , you know ?
@maheshy1
@maheshy1 3 года назад
That stabbing clip from inception still feels so emotional. Nolan has lost his touch. But I can still enjoy mindless action.
@benschmitt7035
@benschmitt7035 3 года назад
I'd disagree, just as far as this is not meant to be an emotional film. This film is an homage to Bond and other spy films, which tend to be very unemotional. You have to first make sure what his intentions are, then judge based off those at the very least. You can disagree with it, but if he went about make an unemotional film, calling him less of a filmmaker or whatever because he succeeded in what he was trying to do is a bit nonsensical
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 3 года назад
mindless action? no emotions? dunkirk was very stressfull, insterstellar was bitter sweet. not sure what you mean?
@mar10ssj1
@mar10ssj1 3 года назад
This movie was supposed to save the theater experience. Didn't exactly went as planned. Now studios are positioning themselves for the escalating Streaming Wars.
@roberthipolito1351
@roberthipolito1351 3 года назад
Streaming wars i hear, well piracy it is :y
@turma8eac
@turma8eac 3 года назад
Well It was written in the walls for anyone to see Some started earlier while others held themselves back I love going to the movies, but they will never have the same numbers they had pre quarantine.
@mar10ssj1
@mar10ssj1 3 года назад
@@turma8eac I think the smaller theaters will survive like Alamo Draft House. It is the larger chains like AMC or Regal that will end up dying. But yeah, the days of the Billion dollar movies might be over.
@WearingGoldluck
@WearingGoldluck 3 года назад
To be fair, I’ve heard this movie’s sound design in particular was awful on standard cinema’s, but I happened to see it in IMAX and thought the sound design was perfect, so maybe some stuff should stay in theatres
@h.ar.2937
@h.ar.2937 3 года назад
well actually that’s what people hyped it up for (saving the theater) but when Nolan was asked about that in an interview he said that’s ridiculous and that no single movie is a saviour of theaters
@terellcase9231
@terellcase9231 3 года назад
From my perspective he's a soldier being given an order to look into inverted weapons, it's not like every story has to have an emotional stake.
@tahnadana5435
@tahnadana5435 3 года назад
How High-Concept Becomes Harmful, exactly the same feeling i experience watching any of Neil Breen movies
@kernm6400
@kernm6400 3 года назад
15 seconds in and I can tell this will be amazing
@Doofwarrior88
@Doofwarrior88 3 года назад
I couldn't even understand the dialog in TENET. all the muffled voices and accents were so aweful.
@sunain7966
@sunain7966 3 года назад
same
@dvrffcl
@dvrffcl 3 года назад
the music was so loud!!!!!
@Baronight
@Baronight 3 года назад
This is the reason why english subtitle should be included on all movie. Not everyone can understand thick accent or mumbling talk
@beanieweenies2383
@beanieweenies2383 3 года назад
I still don’t understand where everyone is coming from about the sound. I watched it twice and never missed a piece of important dialogue.
@Baronight
@Baronight 3 года назад
@@beanieweenies2383 English is not everyone native language and accent can more often make it harder
@kocokan
@kocokan 3 года назад
did you forget that the protagonist is a secret agent from the start?
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 3 года назад
IT DOESN'T @#$%& MATTER. The plot twist that he was the founder of TENET makes no sense and adds nothing to the plot. Maybe if the movie was about a protagonist living in WW3 going on an Inverted Mission to find out why the war started and possibly stop it from happening it would make sense. Look, all I'm saying is... Just because a film is beautiful doesn't mean it's good and just because a film is good doesn't mean it's beautiful. Stuff like TENET is fine, but if we continue to support beauty that has no reason for existing, how long till we end up with movies that just "exist" for no reason whatsoever? EVERY movie needs a reason to exist, end even when it seems like it doesn't then it existed for a reason. TENET is a good movie, but we shouldn't keep asking Hollywood to feed us "junk-food movies," otherwise we'll end up in a world where movies are just pretty lights and sounds with no meaning whatsoever. Our ancestors created stories to further develop our culture but do movies like TENET do? In a visual medium yes, but in a clever story medium no.
@nazirulhaqim4612
@nazirulhaqim4612 3 года назад
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 wow.
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 3 года назад
@@nazirulhaqim4612 Thanks, really appreciate it.
@Meowblivion
@Meowblivion 3 года назад
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 you win the internet for that, holy shit man.
@lonestarr1490
@lonestarr1490 3 года назад
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 "[...] but we shouldn't keep asking Hollywood to feed us "junk-food movies," otherwise we'll end up in a world where movies are just pretty lights and sounds with no meaning whatsoever." Please write an open letter to Disney. I'd sign it.
@dm6905
@dm6905 Год назад
Christopher Nolan: good at concepts, bad at execution
@AunjuliHicks
@AunjuliHicks 3 года назад
So I listened to this and then I watched Tenet with subtitles a totally different movie. A much better movie and powerful in that. Nolan is spectacular but needs to stop messing with sound. No one can enjoy this movie without the subtitles...but once they're on you get a more balanced movie and the things that we believe are missing may actually be there. Maybe inverted?
@mattjones7226
@mattjones7226 3 года назад
Yeah. I'll have to watch it again with subtitles. The sound in the theater i was at was horrible. Everyone sounded like Bane the whole time.
@hiscountrigal1764
@hiscountrigal1764 3 года назад
Yup, as soon as I saw the first exchange of words done through their masks, I knew it was gonna be the kind of movie and had the subtitles on immediately lol
@beans_potatoes
@beans_potatoes 3 года назад
yeah I could barely understand what anyone was saying, so I was confused as hell during the action scenes.
@2kmichaeljordan438
@2kmichaeljordan438 3 года назад
I actually like the movie less with subtitles because I thought everything else but the characters were pretty good. Cinematography was great, soundtrack was fucking awesome, the action scene were cool, but with subtitles, I feel the need to understand this movie, and trying to do that with this straight up is boring. I have never felt so bored trying to understand a movie
@WrenPhoenix
@WrenPhoenix 3 года назад
I agree, it was fun to watch but had 0 emotional or intellectual impact on me, I watched it and then promptly didn't care any more.
@supremelordofthebathroom7197
@supremelordofthebathroom7197 3 года назад
But you gotta agree with me here, the scene with Neil going back in at the end & sacrificing himself WAS emotional.
@jonathanjonathan4908
@jonathanjonathan4908 3 года назад
@@supremelordofthebathroom7197 I’m willing to bet a lot of people missed that and just thought that the dude who sacrificed himself was a faceless ally. I only picked it up on the rewatch too, people should really give this film a chance
@franciscoortiz4502
@franciscoortiz4502 3 года назад
Idk i watched the movie and enjoyed it for the spectacle even if i felt like a lot of it was going over my head.
@Choo-choo-chookcha
@Choo-choo-chookcha 2 года назад
To me, Tenet recreated the experience of watching Bond movies as a child. Of those 007 instalments with Sean Connery, the ‘protagonist’ didn’t have the emotional ties, he was doing his thing for the country. And eventually he was fighting against some powerful enemy to save the world at the same time being charismatic and womanising all the way. So, Nolan showed us a Bond movie, but with a more human James Bond - at the start he doesn’t have any emotional ties, he shouldn’t since he’s a special forces agent. He’s charismatic, but doesn’t use his charisma to get into anyone’s pants. And his growth, besides understanding that he’s the one behind half of the stuff he doesn’t yet understand is that he begins to care for the people he met.
@seal2721
@seal2721 3 года назад
Your friend Felix looks like a chill dude, he should totally start a RU-vid channel
@matheustran8009
@matheustran8009 3 года назад
Yeah I bet he could get a lot of subscribers
@rugalthreesixteen6812
@rugalthreesixteen6812 3 года назад
Tenet is literally Memento's Narrative style turned into an actual plot.
@j.m.w.5064
@j.m.w.5064 3 года назад
Fascinating - if at all it's the other way round: Memento's technical execution serves the human element in the film and it has a well established emotional core - meaning, suffering, grieve, life goals, self-deception and so on in a life that can't develop. It raises a lot of questions about life and you actually feel something. Tenet is bare of any human emotion or personal impact. It's a sanitised execution of one half-baked Sci-fi concept and that's it.
@haikalrifqinandika8724
@haikalrifqinandika8724 2 года назад
Yes, this is what I thinking too.... calling this movie (tenet) bad is a big false, however yeah the movie is fail due to lack of drama. However, this movie is worth to watch, bcs this is the most mindfuck movie ever made yet. Or if you want to be simple: Tenet: A film that using the Terminator's concept, but Nolan went too far😅
@Boredman567
@Boredman567 3 года назад
The characters may not have personal emotional stakes in the plot, but it's spelled out pretty bluntly in the scene with the scientist. She explains that they need to investigate and stop the source of these inverted arms, or else they could end up catastrophically destroying the world. She even predicts that a massive war is coming. The question of "Why should we care?" is already answered. We may not be invested in the emotions of the characters yet, but the stakes for the world are established. Stakes that are raised as the movie progresses. As for the airport scene, we've already been introduced to Kat, and we know that Sator is blackmailing her to stay under his thumb. They go to the airport because that's where he keeps the Goya drawing that implicates her, and to find what other secret he has there relating to the time inversion. The truck heist scene is done to steal nuclear material, as a bargain he made with Sator to save Kat and himself, and to further investigate Sator's arms dealings. Again, the protagonist has little personal investment in these scenes, but we know there are world-endangering stakes at play here. Not to mention, Protag has clearly started to care about Kat, so saving her from Sator is one of his main goals. And at the beginning, he learns that he lost his whole team in the opera siege, which also gives him some personal emotional stakes.
@Ecchi_Kun
@Ecchi_Kun 3 года назад
I loved the movie but I also understand your points you were making, some people just like to overreact and defend what they like blindly and will always try to make you look stupid by saying same thing everytime and everywhere "you didn't like it because you didn't understand it"
@TheKrzysiek
@TheKrzysiek 3 года назад
16:41 I'd watch a whole movie with this kind of audio edit.
@treiskushrenada6332
@treiskushrenada6332 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@eliseoponce3071
@eliseoponce3071 3 года назад
Great video! In my opinion I believe the ending is the emotional value.the difficult concept is the your own perspective , some movies are swallow and plain following the guidelines . Curiosity , ambiguity and uniqueness is Tenet in my humble opinion thanks for the video.
@debzykvids
@debzykvids 3 года назад
I went to see this on opening day with my younger brother, and while he enjoyed it, I didn't. I was really hoping Nolan was going to add more to the spy thriller genre alongside the great idea of time inversion, like giving more depth to the characters involved and how mentally they'd freak out over this sort of time travel (ala Memento or Inception style). But nope, we got a predictable James Bond/Mission Impossible "tribute" that only reminded me why I'm not really a fan of the genre (and ironically, made me want to see those movies instead to see if they were any better). Hopefully he'll improve on his next one, though, since I still like his earlier movies. Or just bring back his brother Jonathan for screenwriting again. :/
@Mindboggles
@Mindboggles 3 года назад
Apart from the incredible amount of plotholes and bs (which is unavoidable with all timetravel movies etc.) I highly enjoyed the movie itself. It was entertaining like most of Nolan's movies. If someone is interested in a lot more advanced, realistic movie that deal with time travel (and the complications of it) you should watch "Primer". Definitely not a mainstream popcorn flick. But a very good indie movie.
@loudermusic
@loudermusic 3 года назад
Nolan did this on purpose, he just doesn't care about the average audience, if you think about it he got better and more sophisticated so his product will reflect that.
@ibrahimahmad8198
@ibrahimahmad8198 3 года назад
If he keeps making movies like this, he will end up without his audience. And no one will care about his movies
@loudermusic
@loudermusic 3 года назад
@@ibrahimahmad8198 what if he is willing to pay that price to make better movies? it's like Kubrick you just don't care about "feelings" in 2001 a space oddissey or any of his movies.
@foglias
@foglias 3 года назад
You're right, since Dunkirk he's going more on the approach on no introduce backstories or a traditional character arc for their protagonists. He's asking you to focus on character's actions and decisions in order to you create a picture of how and why they're like that. For Dunkirk he said was inspired by the movie The Battle of Algiers which it's a movie which tries to create empathy by the events and not by the characters. That was the approach with Dunkirk and in Tenet he went in that same direction, The world (along with the time inversion and that particular cold war) is a character by itself: ever changing as long as the protaginist moves towards the story into knowing the true nature of his mission and his roll in this whole operation. I really like Filmento's film analysis but sometimes I think he tries to measure evey film he analizes with same bar, specially his videos which are about hollywood blockbusters. It's clearly that Nolan, even though he's under the hollywood system he doesn't like to go by its standards. So that's the reason why a part of the audience will feel misplaced by Nolan's current narrative approach.
@catsthemovie4692
@catsthemovie4692 3 года назад
The thing is ...things like tension and stakes exist. I would not have cared one bit if the protagonist got nerfed in the middle of this movie 🤣...he just wasn't reacting like a human being would to this new world he's just been introduced to. Why go through the trouble of making him a fish out of water character if he doesn't react like one. Ditch all the boring(inaudible) talks then and just let us watch a person who's already familiar with this world do some mind bending action and we'll catch up later on the mechanics of it. This dragged at times on the second viewing. Filmento does have points but it's still a solid movie 🍿
@tictacmaniac7415
@tictacmaniac7415 3 года назад
@@foglias You said that very, very well, I'm going to steal that quote, thaaaaank you :)
@simonkeys3167
@simonkeys3167 3 года назад
The fact that while watching this movie, I had the wikipedia plot out and was still really confused, sums up my opinion on this movie.
@ajh22895
@ajh22895 3 года назад
I liked it but when you strip it back, all it translated to was stop the nuke. Or stop the time-nuke.
@Achillez098
@Achillez098 3 года назад
Nolan: "We need a scene where we crash a plane" Producer: "Sure, I will notify the SFX and CGI teams" Nolan: "Don't bother, we are crashing a REAL plane" Producer: (Laughs like JJ Jameson) Nolan: ... Producer: "You're serious?"
@murselpatpat4270
@murselpatpat4270 3 года назад
the problem is, he is also the producer
@IntrovertedAve
@IntrovertedAve 2 года назад
The spectacle of it all was downright amazing, but like till this day I still don’t know how the concept works even after this video lmao
@arundas186
@arundas186 3 года назад
You went full CONCEPT man .. Never go full CONCEPT !!
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 года назад
I got swept up in the humanity of the performances and just the general kineticism of it myself.
@arundas186
@arundas186 3 года назад
@@anthonymartensen3164 i enjoyed the movie man .. fuck concept .. It was nail biting ,confusing and enjoyable ..
@spacemarine8289
@spacemarine8289 Месяц назад
Best part is the music not the two and a half hours of a headache trying to work out what is going on.
@amateurwave3593
@amateurwave3593 3 года назад
I wonder if Nolan has ever watched the series Dark. Dark is a fucking masterpiece.
@marcuswalters8093
@marcuswalters8093 3 года назад
I felt Inception lacked emotional stakes for me too. There's something clinical about his style that separates me l from the action.
@ermericcarolissen694
@ermericcarolissen694 4 месяца назад
Tenet gave me a headache trying to follow the plot while also trying to make out what people were saying.
@nandanthony
@nandanthony 3 года назад
Well technically, didnt he lose his entire team at the start at the opera house? With the guy sacrificing his suicide pill to give it to Protagonist while they were tortured.
@АзаматСулейменов-ш4р
Without establishing those people as "real" fleshed out human beings and their relationship with the protagonist, the main hero/the audience has been given zero reasons to care about their deaths.
@ИванСнежков-з9й
@ИванСнежков-з9й 3 года назад
Yes. Probably there is a cut where the team is killed in front of him. But in this movie this happen off screen and we are only told about it. Maybe his motivation is to find who betrayed them, but that could only be deduced by his reaction after the heist, when it is revealed that the bad guys from the future told to the bad guys in the past.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 года назад
Who cares if we don't know who the team is? They're not important to the story.
@raptoid2518
@raptoid2518 3 года назад
@@anthonymartensen3164 Except you can't use them dying as an emotional reason to push things forward if we know nothing at all about the team. If we have no emotional connection to them or know absolutely nothing about them, they aren't people, they just exist add to the body count.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 года назад
@@raptoid2518 they have absolutely zero significance to the plot. There's a reason we don't know them very well, because we're not meant to
@anibalrodriguez2626
@anibalrodriguez2626 3 года назад
If you want to watch a Nolan movie where time reverse is the whole plot of the movie, watch "Memento"
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 года назад
It doesn't actually play into the plot like Tenet does though
@evm6177
@evm6177 3 года назад
@@anthonymartensen3164 Right except it plays it better! 🍷 without the need of any confusing stuff to fill in for.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 года назад
@@evm6177 so your problem is that the plot is too confusing?
@evm6177
@evm6177 3 года назад
@@anthonymartensen3164Is that a Question or a fact you made?
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 года назад
@@evm6177 is what a question?
@levitastic
@levitastic 3 года назад
I love how much of a gamer Filmento is and uses it in his videos hahah ;D
@jfracchia
@jfracchia 3 года назад
Hey, today i knew of this channel and its awesome, keep going, I already watch 4 videos of. cheers!
@grec.
@grec. 3 года назад
What many people haven't understand about the concept of inversion in this movie is that it is not a parallel inverted universe where people live inverted; the key to inversion here is that it is a weapon or a technique people use to travel to the past and prevent/try to change an event or an action. They appear backwards because the events in time are moving forward and the inverted movements come as a result of using the machine that not only helps them find a window in time but also to invert their entropy to accomplish a/the task.
@MissMartianDCAU
@MissMartianDCAU 3 года назад
All I'm gonna say is, the Netflix series DARK did the whole "pre-ordained time loop" _way_ better than Tenet. Hell, even the movie -Presentation- Predestination starring Ethan Hawke did it way better.
@frameofmind229
@frameofmind229 3 года назад
Agreed
@MrPipense
@MrPipense 3 года назад
Don't you mean Predestination?
@adminadmin8992
@adminadmin8992 3 года назад
@@MrPipense Yea. It's Predestination. Unique movie.
@MissMartianDCAU
@MissMartianDCAU 3 года назад
@@MrPipense yup. I'm an idiot.
@J.MProductions
@J.MProductions 3 года назад
Ah Filmento posted a video on a movie I haven't seen. *Watches movie and goes right back to Filmento video*
@proph7543
@proph7543 4 месяца назад
I think the fact that we know nothing about the characters is supposed to make the film seem more clandestine, and I think that it works. It ties into one crucial theme of the film, which is absolute secrecy, as any information left over in the present can be found in the future. However, it still lets in enough information for you to get a sense of the world you're in, or in other words it still achieves good world building. The issue is that they've gone too far here, and the main character is an enigma. We know he likes diet cokes, we know he's extremely pragmatic and mission focused, but still sentimental when it comes to the people we know, but we know nothing about his past and not even his name, so it's hard to get a really good read on him *unless you watch the film again, knowing who he is from the start*. Meanwhile, we know the names of everyone else involved, bar a couple of exceptions. It's even possible that Neil is actually Kat's son. But it's fine if his name and past are unknown, he's black-ops CIA, he operates at the highest level of secrecy (or thinks he does, until the starting sequence is finished). His name doesn't dictate his character, he's not evil if his name's Josh, he's not a paragon of virtue if his name is Steve. His past being laid out could take away from his mystique. What's left out is as you've put it his emotional hook. He's only become attached to people once he's started working for the unnamed group. In Inception, it's the other way around. Really, the thing that Tenet fails at *as a commercial movie*, but which I love it for is that it's a film that gets better when you rewatch it, but is on first viewing frequently quite opaque in regards to some important points or sequences. It's the inverse of Hotfuzz, another great movie. In Hotfuzz, the main plot is incredibly simple, but every time you watch it gets better because you notice another detail. In Tenet, you notice all manner of interesting things first time around but you only start to understand it when you watch it again. It's plot itself is hard to know upon first viewing, at least for a lot of people, so they're discouraged from watching it again. It's the kind of film that, if you're intrigued by it, you'll come to find is very good. But that's not a great recipe for a movie that you're selling tickets for. Rambling over.
@leonixnn
@leonixnn 3 года назад
Actually, it was really nice just to look at a sheer concept. Of course, a person must demand sense and something to feel upon in a motion picture... But I was very much fine with just what we got. Felt like taking some fresh air after having some nice time in a garden of flowers. Cause sometimes you just need that fresh, unspoiled air.
@notundermywatch3163
@notundermywatch3163 3 года назад
Very well said. I agree.
@vighneshnambiar4225
@vighneshnambiar4225 3 года назад
6:51 I liked how you played classic indian background music as soon as you started talking about India.😂😂
@XeniusChannel
@XeniusChannel 3 года назад
His editing is so hillarious and makes the video understandable and funny at the same tine 😄
@jamesp.6753
@jamesp.6753 3 года назад
The Protagonist is meant to be an inverted James Bond. The beginning of the movie sets up that he's willing to die to protect people he may not even know. This is carried through when he meets the main villain's wife, and rather than use her for his own gain, genuinely tries to help her by robbing the airport to grab the painting. His desire to help her and his total devotion to the mission is what creates the conflict, as he's told multiple times that she must die, but refuses to believe it. At the end of the film, he realizes that his friend, Robert Pattinson, must die, and accepts it, but is still able to help the villain's wife without compromising the mission. The end battle exists to wrest the inverted bomb from the forces of the main villain and disarm it. The emotional stake is that if the Protagonist fails, then the woman he's been trying to help the entire film will suffer greatly (and probably die) at the villain's hands.
@spiderganon
@spiderganon 3 года назад
As someone who needs emotional attachment to feel interest in action, I was pretty bored throughout the movie. But then I'm not a big action fan so maybe it just wasn't for me to begin with.
@wizzyone6789
@wizzyone6789 3 года назад
You should watch a daytime soap opera, maybe you will get you emotional fix there.
@karangupta1825
@karangupta1825 3 года назад
Tenet - When a director thinks that crashing a plane is more important than improving the terrible script of the film.
@mazetoeden9334
@mazetoeden9334 Месяц назад
one of my all time favorite movies
@JC-zj2is
@JC-zj2is 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly, The Main actor in this movie just seemed “bored” throughout the movie. The Scientist lady delivered the info as if she had barely got out of bed, and so on. Now saying all that that movie was really good imo, and the twist at the end worked for me.
@atomspalter2090
@atomspalter2090 3 года назад
I dont rly watch movies I always just watch the critics and Im currently catchingh up all your content. Good work!
@taufanaugusta8884
@taufanaugusta8884 3 года назад
Easy folks, I'm in a temporal pincer. The inverted version of me told me that Filmento has a video about Tenet in the *Film Perfection* playlist. _What's happened, happened_
@ChaossX77
@ChaossX77 3 года назад
I think the protagonist wasn't surprised with the concept because he's in the CIA and has seen some shit. And the scientist wasn't because she has been dealing with and testing it for a while. Idk. I really liked it.
@Isfrael
@Isfrael 3 года назад
It was high concept low substance. The entire time watching it I wasn't bored, but it felt like it was a series of moments tied loosely together but a very simple plot. I feel like Nolan thought "an action scene in reverse would look really cool." and then worked backwards from there.
@sashkad9246
@sashkad9246 3 года назад
I feel like this was just a scrap script just laying somewhere and someone thought of making the movie but didn't bother to develop it fully. Everyone was just nodding, not understanding and not really caring about it. So a year later we have a movie and that's how the audience reacts as well.
@mattdox2308
@mattdox2308 2 года назад
Imagine if the personal motivation was his daughter or son was killed by the bullets but it can be reversed using the same technology, maybe in a limited amount of time to add suspense.
@Jeejay2008
@Jeejay2008 3 года назад
When I clicked the video I was pretty sure I'm gonna hate you for calling Tenet failure but then I understand your point. I was just amazed how awesome concept was and didn't see that, but again I'm just a movie lover who loves most movies.
@nikolai3620
@nikolai3620 Месяц назад
Tenet is Christopher Nolans Prometheus. The end result of an accomplished directors ego going unchecked.
@rmrfboy
@rmrfboy 3 года назад
I think this is what happened to the movie: Nolan was on the editing room and made a decent cut. All is fine and rosy. Suddenly, there was a power outage 3 hours before he hands over final cut of the film. He tries to load the backup but all those hard earned snapshots got corrupted. An hour before the deadline, he decided to just chuck those whatever clips he could salvage. some got jumbled on those final cut pro timeline. no worries, ill come back to it later. 5 minutes before deadline, he drag and drop all the effects and music. dammit, he forgot to lower down the sound effects.. but he only got a 1 minute left. fuck it. command s this shit and send it to the producers.
@danihatton9535
@danihatton9535 Год назад
I've just watched Tenet for the second time, really hoping I'd understand it a bit better the second time round. I did understand it more, but i still just didn't care, and I couldn't put my finger on why. Thank you for putting exactly my feelings into words!
@Klishar122
@Klishar122 3 года назад
Fun fact: even the actors didn’t have any clue what was going on.
@angelabby2379
@angelabby2379 3 года назад
not even acting 😵 robert and Elizabeth is great though. i dont even know the character name
@EmpReb
@EmpReb 3 года назад
@@angelabby2379 it’s literally Protagonist
@jc8153
@jc8153 3 года назад
That was a theme apparentlt
@melvinch
@melvinch 3 года назад
Fun fact : neither do the movie-goers.
@manea7074
@manea7074 3 года назад
It's not only the actors even the whole crew have no fucking idea what was going on
@SwornSon
@SwornSon 3 года назад
This is why Interstellar was about the protagonist trying to secure the world's future for the sake of his child instead of some impersonal "save the world" mission.
@semperfi2314
@semperfi2314 3 года назад
Exactly! The relationship between Cooper and his kids in Interstellar is so well done, and for him as the main character, they represent the world that needs to be saved, they are something concrete. Not just a sort of... thing that's here because hey guys apparently the plot needs a goal, so... any ideas
@Xgil2Play
@Xgil2Play 3 года назад
Nolan did that twice, he can't use it again.
@mlgamings6110
@mlgamings6110 3 года назад
@@Xgil2Play well, he didn't need to use a child. Like Filmento stated, a friend or something.
@Cobalt360Degrees
@Cobalt360Degrees 3 года назад
@@Xgil2Play You're missing the point. The point is not 'Nolan should've reused something from one of his previous movies', the point is 'we know he can make high concept that has an emotional heart and he didn't do that in Tenet'.
@heavybattle6650
@heavybattle6650 2 года назад
Let's not pretend that Interstellar is not dumb as hell too.
@gabevillarrealedits
@gabevillarrealedits 3 года назад
According to IMDb, once DiCaprio was cast, he spent quite a bit of time working with Nolan to make “Inception” more character driven and less conceptually centered, whereas with Tenet, pretty much the only person who knew what the hell was going on was Nolan himself. It seems his best work is made when he’s challenged and balanced out by his peers.
@YuzuruA
@YuzuruA 3 года назад
apparently that was also the role of this brother in the script
@aashiv93
@aashiv93 3 года назад
Damn...really? If this is true, it proves that like George Lucas, Nolan needs someone to rein him in a little in order to get the best of him.
@CapitalFProductions
@CapitalFProductions 3 года назад
Watch any interview with a Tenet cast member where they’re asked about plot and they’re all just 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
@magiv4205
@magiv4205 3 года назад
@@aashiv93 Doesn't surprise me. Most good or even great directors don't stand alone. We all need others to bring out the best in us sometimes, and directors are just as human as any of us. If we keep raising directors and filmmakers to godhood, they can get full of themselves, lose their way and will stop accepting criticism because everyone told them they were perfect.
@MAXLD
@MAXLD 3 года назад
It's interesting because if you ask most people to describe them Inception, I doubt they'll even describe his family drama as a particular key plot point or even refer it at all. I really have a bad time with this type of "if there's no family killed or at least kidnapped, there's no emotional connection by the viewer to the movie or character" argument. Almost every single movie script includes that kind of stuff, someone very close (family member, friend, dog, whatever...) in distress or dead that drives the protagonist to do what he does in the movie. Good lord... talk about cliché. It actually puts me off when I see a movie go for that easy trope to try establish character / audience connection. I mean, it's not like in the real world out there people only get stuff done if their family has been killed or kidnapped. It's fake, cheap and overused hollywood melodrama. If the movie doesn't explain enough the implications and consequences of a major plot going on, then fair enough, I'm on board with kind of discussion. But going with the "we don't understand why the protagonist is invested in this because he has no personal life drama" and/or "if he had a family member killed, then this would make more sense" arguments, it's something I really can't really agree with. Just my opinion, I respect all other points of view, including the ones I listed here and I'm aware that it's how hollywood movies work for general audiences, unfortunately.
@emilwallraff
@emilwallraff 3 года назад
This movie clearly lacks the main characters wife getting killed.
@alexmorenoac
@alexmorenoac 3 года назад
that theme is inverted too: this time is the wife that kills
@emilwallraff
@emilwallraff 3 года назад
Yeah, I got it, the irony is just that the one time Nolan didn't kill the wife to make it personal, the protagonist isn't relatable enough
@alexmorenoac
@alexmorenoac 3 года назад
@@emilwallraff totally agree, although for me while it was not relatble it is still somewhat likable due to the actor's charisma
@darkdream1469
@darkdream1469 3 года назад
@@emilwallraff he wasn't relatable to me too. And i think the reason for this is that, we don't know what his personal motivation/goal in this movie is.
@emilwallraff
@emilwallraff 3 года назад
@DarkDream Yes, and in every other Nolan movie this motivation evolves around the dead wife.
@jamilosan
@jamilosan 3 года назад
Can we talk about the fact that our protagonist is literally called “protagonist” 😂 Looks like nolan really didnt want us to care for some weird reason
@sword_of_damocle5
@sword_of_damocle5 3 года назад
It's an analogy that hints at the fact that every time-inversion event (the movie's main plot point) is connected to the MC in the same way that plots often revolve around protagonists.
@Coolcoolcooldude
@Coolcoolcooldude 3 года назад
Clint Eastwood plays the man with no name.
@Rangeofranges
@Rangeofranges 3 года назад
I think that was kind of the point. I think Nolan didn’t want you to feel like you were watching characters on a screen do things, but rather experience the film through the eyes of the protagonist, similar to a video game
@papus615
@papus615 3 года назад
Some of these replies are a neat way of showing the leangths of bullshit people will go to to not call a male character a mary sue, when thats clearly what they are.
@BobExcalibur
@BobExcalibur 3 года назад
@@papus615 Pro spends most of the movie getting laid out, outmanoeuvred, maimed, confused and non-figuratively blown up.
@marcioeduardogenez50
@marcioeduardogenez50 3 года назад
The definition of that desert war scene was the "I don't know why I am here, all I know is that I must kill" meme
@jove6407
@jove6407 3 года назад
But they literally had a whole scene with a briefing about why they were there
@Wiley97
@Wiley97 3 года назад
Warhammer meme?
@kyyy8821
@kyyy8821 3 года назад
Add that they were literally shooting at air, well it seemed like it.
@Player-kg1ds
@Player-kg1ds 3 года назад
That's cuz it isn't properly shown who they were shooting at. They were fighting Sator's henchmen
@bluedaylight1243
@bluedaylight1243 3 года назад
Fr, the movie is realy confusing and thats a shame considering the concept is pretty cool
@amoghpratapsingh4938
@amoghpratapsingh4938 3 года назад
Come on it's Nolan's first movie. The best hasn't happened yet.
@fishyfish6510
@fishyfish6510 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 3 года назад
I see what you did there.
@AbelXAnne
@AbelXAnne 3 года назад
damn 😆
@herdiantz8545
@herdiantz8545 3 года назад
The dark knight hasn't created yet. Wait, how I know?
@Hasan-cq1sz
@Hasan-cq1sz 3 года назад
Damn took me a bit to figure that out ..
@franciscodanconia4324
@franciscodanconia4324 2 года назад
Inception had a concept that you could follow. Dream within a dream within a dream. A fairly linear path. Tenet was two opposite paths going by each other at the same time. And was so hard to follow that actually following the plot was secondary. We spent an hour after the movie discussing how the time thing worked just to wrap our heads around it. And some of us still didn't get it.
@GothamThotSlayer
@GothamThotSlayer 2 года назад
And when it's fruitless you just end up not caring about the concept. Anymore and just moved on. That's why I only saw this movie once
@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 Год назад
It's really meant to be watched multiple times and each time you understand a new thing. I'm a high IQ quick witted person and it took me two viewings to feel comfortable with the concept and 3 to find out who is "Neil" which was amazing.
@Kserijaro
@Kserijaro Год назад
There is nothing to get. They break their own rules in the movie. Magically having access to processing facility that can field entire squads? Bunch of action that doesn't stop? Annoying ass music? "dont understand it- feel it?" Guy takes a clip with reversed bullets, loads it into a gun.... and now the gun that didn't shoot bullets in a slab, rewinds bullets into reverse clip? They also want us to believe that they packed gallons of real food and air so they can eat and drink while in aired zone in reverse ship? How the fuck do you go to the bathroom? Its a concept that literally isnt feasible. You move forward in reverse time so normal time flows backwards to you ? Why? Why they couldnt make his actions be those that UNDO themselves in realtime. This creates a paradox. How the fuck do you reverse time for entire world and not destroy it? This is literaly the master evil plan. The "algorithm" can reverse whole world... yet doesnt that happen when you reverse one person? Its idiotic to the max. Its all about the shitty mechanics that just don't make sense. And then the story is like "ITS YOU MAN! THIS IS ALL A MASSIVE REVERSE ITS SO DEEP!" Shit ass movie. Inception was amazing purely because Nolan ripped of Paprika by Satoshi Kon that had a mind of a true creative artist.
@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 Год назад
@@Kserijaro "How the fuck do you reverse time for entire world and not destroy it? This is literaly the master evil plan. The "algorithm" can reverse whole world... yet doesnt that happen when you reverse one person?" See I really don't want to sound superior or anything because I liked the movie and you didn't, every human life is precious because each person has a specific way of experiencing reality and none is superior to another. But I must tell you you didn't understand how the movie's idea works or at least that's what you're saying in your comment. It's not about reversing time, it's about reversing the entropy of objects and peoples relative to the "normal" direction of time. To me this is no more ridiculous than the idea of dreams within dreams, the point is to play around with the meaning of time (which fundamentally doesn't exist, only the present moment ever does). The evil plan is for the people in the future to reverse time for the whole earth because they have basically used up earth's resources. The main idea is people going backwards in time to change the outcome, but remember WE ONLY SEE THE REALITY WERE THEY ALREADY CAME BACK which is confusing at first, seeing characters and objects meet themselves, but there is a basis for it in physics. Personally I'm so used to movies were I end up predicting everything that happens way too early it was so refreshing to be left not fully getting it at first and having to watch it again, and trust me the more you watch it the more you understand it makes a lot of sense, and I feel a lot of people decide to find flaws because they don't want to bother and throw the baby with the bath water, which again is fine not everyone is meant to enjoy everything ! But I would wish on anyone I like to one day experience the joy of finding out just how much thought went into it, and the twists you learn about Neil and other characters. I can't explain it all here because it's already a long ass comment and you might not even read that far. I hope you have a nice day anyway !
@karimshebeika8010
@karimshebeika8010 Год назад
@@Kserijaro I liked Tenet more than Inception exactly BECAUSE it made me go down a line of thought just like you just did. looking for paradoxes and inconsitensies in movies
@callummurphy3892
@callummurphy3892 3 года назад
This movie had me sliding around and moving backwards when no one was watching for a solid week
@ethibodeaux7
@ethibodeaux7 3 года назад
When I watched it a second time I understood so much more shit than the first time
@michadudek8684
@michadudek8684 3 года назад
SAME XD
@rrson648
@rrson648 3 года назад
LOL! When I was a kid I used to do the slo-mo "six million dollar man"-run all the time. Complete with the je-je-je-je-je-je-je sound effect! Good times, good times....
@deadschooled
@deadschooled 3 года назад
@@ethibodeaux7 you watched that dog sh!+ TWICE?! I'm sorry.....
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@dzull4976 3 года назад
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@Xantek85
@Xantek85 3 года назад
In the inverted world, this is Film Perfection.
@The_Viktor_Reznov
@The_Viktor_Reznov 3 года назад
Not only we have "that's not how time travel works in Endgame" but also now "that's not how time travel works in Tenet". Unbelievable.
@sammythesuesarthouse
@sammythesuesarthouse 3 года назад
It stil is pretty good. Not flawless but it is a joyride for sure
@isthatronfr
@isthatronfr 3 года назад
Anotomy of perfection
@michaelmantode4985
@michaelmantode4985 3 года назад
Lol. Uno reverse card!!!!
@josephcastillo5091
@josephcastillo5091 3 года назад
@@brettlucas1037 Thats why you need to see things in closed loops
@SpiderXweaponX
@SpiderXweaponX 3 года назад
You never go full CONCEPT.
@JoelFavela1037
@JoelFavela1037 3 года назад
That reference tho.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 3 года назад
Yes you do! The fault is with those who go very deep with concept, but don't have the balls to commit 100%. At least Tenet commits fully, and I for one respect that. Not some half assed shit that wants to try but doesn't dare and plays it a bit safe. I honestly didn't care about the lack of emotional investment in this case, because the concept was strong enough to stand on its own imo. I love emotion-driven movies, but there are quite a few of them, especially from Nolan, so seeing this take was refreshing.
@vrika4280
@vrika4280 3 года назад
That's M. Night's problem as well, he goes full Shyamalan...
@PhotonShower
@PhotonShower 3 года назад
haha..
@nir24adler
@nir24adler 3 года назад
Lol
@noumena6456
@noumena6456 3 года назад
As a Nolan fan, i agree 100% with your analysis. My hypothesis on why Tenet has these issues is twofold: 1) Nolan is no longer working his his brother Jonah… a much better WRITTER. 2) Its evident that Nolan tried to emulate the high-concept of Inception with the stale character minimalism and intensity of Dunkirk. Both of those approaches worked great in the two films, but when combined in Tenet it left it lifeless.
@GothamThotSlayer
@GothamThotSlayer 2 года назад
It was just like TOOOOO MUCH CONCEPT
@emp9413
@emp9413 2 года назад
I didn't find it lifeless at all, just different.
@Kserijaro
@Kserijaro Год назад
It felt like him trying to pitch a sale for a shitty product. Instead the product is the main focus and gimmick of a movie that is so barren, its only a gimmick.
@Specsy2004
@Specsy2004 Год назад
@@Natalia-po5lu it was covid bro +_-
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 Год назад
I think that trying to manufacture a "emotional motivation" for the hero is dumb and not necessary. Maybe the TENET guy just wanted to save the world from oblivion because its the right thing to do?????
@doxazo5512
@doxazo5512 3 года назад
Excuse me his first name is "The", last name "Protagonist"
@juanordonezgalban2278
@juanordonezgalban2278 3 года назад
I haden't noticed. Thanks for the clarification
@Win090949
@Win090949 3 года назад
His middle name?
@tashkagc6585
@tashkagc6585 3 года назад
@@Win090949 "Black"
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 3 года назад
LOL.🤣
@mahover
@mahover 3 года назад
@@tashkagc6585 you win
@juxe411
@juxe411 3 года назад
i personally really enjoy it but i can see why people wouldn’t. There’s one thing you can’t argue with is that the imax cinematography is breathtaking
@SausageWithOranges
@SausageWithOranges 3 года назад
I agree full heartedly.
@aim-9sidewinder550
@aim-9sidewinder550 3 года назад
i watched it recently and it was good but im still confused on how the time works in the movie.
@wendigo1619
@wendigo1619 3 года назад
i can argue that imax filmaking takes too much of a spectacle aproach when the best movies have a gritty aproach that puts you right next to the hard hitting action (without relying on quick cuts and sweeping wide shots)... personal opinion though
@aldoblack5982
@aldoblack5982 3 года назад
I saw it in IMAX and Dolby. Dolby was waaaay better.
@thorthewolf8801
@thorthewolf8801 3 года назад
Yeah, but thats not a high bar to pass, is it, when you have money. But a story making sense is much harder.
@denmanfite3156
@denmanfite3156 3 года назад
The problem with "some things" going "backwards" in time is it makes it ridiculously hard to tell what is happening on the screen. There were long sections of this movie where I thought to myself "What the fuck is even going on." and it ALWAYS had a component of "going backwards" happening at the same time.
@Profile__1
@Profile__1 3 года назад
I can definitely understand if you disagree with this statement, but in my opinion that's a MAJOR benefit of watching this movie. It's fantastic to watch it several times. The first time I watched it with someone, we both almost immediately agreed to watch it again right after. Especially with the covid quarantine, the movie being difficult to watch in one watch was a bonus, as we could literally pause/rewatch however many times we wanted to. It didn't feel confusing, so much as it felt like I just wasn't getting it--that if I watched it again, I could appreciate it on an even deeper level.
@denmanfite3156
@denmanfite3156 3 года назад
​@@Profile__1 I see the appeal of that and it's sort of like scrolling back a great audio book or rereading a page. I find that to be awe-shattering when it comes to film, especially one intended to have a high-stakes energy of "hurry up and go" only to then require you to roll back 35 seconds as you try to "get" what just happened. Suddenly there's no urgency and the tension is lost. I don't think film as a medium lends itself to this kind of story telling. It works in other places- I don't think you're wrong at all, but I have to say it's the same as replaying parts of a video game because you are dying to a silly mistake. It takes the energy out and ups the frustration.
@Profile__1
@Profile__1 3 года назад
@@denmanfite3156 Normally I'd agree with the energy being drained, but I think it's because the film's whole concept is the flow of time being inverted that makes it watchable to rewind, replay, and rewatch. It just feels like a different, new way to see the same thing. Kind of like that 5 word puzzle the movie is heavily based on.
@bluedaylight1243
@bluedaylight1243 3 года назад
I agree with you, i think that "backwards" is really confusing sometimes, but it also really cool in some scene, but yeah. Doesnt really work
@TubesForNoobs
@TubesForNoobs 3 года назад
I understand it was hard for you to follow but it’s not the kind of movie you can sit and just casually enjoy, if you’re vividly paying attention to the scenes and asking yourselves questions like “wait why did he leave the other guy to run off after he took his mask” “why did he lie that he finished him off”, then later on I’m the film all your questions are answered and it makes sense. The story is played forward and it goes backward to show you what was happening in the background of the forward timeline. Near the end you have a mixture of forward and backward simultaneously and numerous times but it does make sense when you actually sit down to figure it out and it’ll become way more enjoyable when you do
@LokiSinweave
@LokiSinweave 3 года назад
I wish there was a bigger focus on Robert Pattinson's character since he was the one with an emotional connection to his mother and the main character.
@rhythmandblues_alibi
@rhythmandblues_alibi 3 года назад
Same. The Protagonist was so wooden it was boring.
@RashaadGenie
@RashaadGenie Месяц назад
Sequel idea.
@aidancicci9327
@aidancicci9327 3 года назад
i was on the fence about this review until he said that the movie should've ended at the opera house. That's genius level plotting right there
@MoLetalis
@MoLetalis 3 года назад
At least it did end at the same point in time as the opera house sequence.
@stevenbobbybills
@stevenbobbybills 3 года назад
He does have a point there, it's the only action scene we don't see both ways.
@damtan6286
@damtan6286 3 года назад
The guy who save him in the opera is not The Protagonist but his British friend/agent Neil. Because of his keychain in the backpack cmiiw
@NnanaAwa
@NnanaAwa 3 года назад
Exactly
@Ahmed-sn4ko
@Ahmed-sn4ko 3 года назад
Agent neil did say at the end tho that we cant change the past, whats happened happened. Or maybe that was nolan's way to buy out of that scenario. It wouldnt make much sense if he was able to change the past in this specific movie, matter of fact it wouldve killed all suspense and inevitably "emotion"
@jdraven0890
@jdraven0890 3 года назад
Ironically (and probably intentional) the most spectacular parts of the movie were the Protagonist failing to use inversion to change things - he ends up literally fighting himself.
@oranbenton9563
@oranbenton9563 3 года назад
What's happened happened
@mediy0
@mediy0 3 года назад
Whats happened happened.
@twoskill423
@twoskill423 3 года назад
Whats happened happened
@JacobGrim
@JacobGrim 3 года назад
What's happened happened.
@druznocte7417
@druznocte7417 3 года назад
kate save thank you
@aplix747
@aplix747 3 года назад
"It's not about the concept, it's about.... sending a message....."
@wisdommakubile2127
@wisdommakubile2127 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@atomicdancer
@atomicdancer 3 года назад
"Some men just want to watch the world yawn."
@pancake_crab4457
@pancake_crab4457 3 года назад
A message without content is empty. It's the equivalent of writing an email with a subject but nothing else.
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay 3 года назад
”Insanity is like gravity. All it needs is a little push.”
@mykpausa9238
@mykpausa9238 3 года назад
How bout a magic trick?
@TF2Fan101
@TF2Fan101 3 года назад
I dunno, it kinda hit me when it was revealed that Neil gave his life to save the Protagonist, so knowing he was going to die after getting to know him over the course of the movie left an impact.
@theascendunt9960
@theascendunt9960 3 года назад
That was right at the end. After almost 3 hours of no emotional investment. Too little too late.
@eliseoponce3071
@eliseoponce3071 3 года назад
Exactly the great concept it is your own perspective and graps I'll be honest is hard but is much better than swallow and plain... Filmento just follows the rules or guidelines of a movie in this case.
@elefes.
@elefes. 3 года назад
Unfortunately, this is what happens in real life. The closest, most important person in your life can be right next to you, quietly help you here and there, without asking for anything in return. Just because you are important to them. But you don't notice it until it's too late. Only then do you realize how much they have done for you, and you dream of turning back time. Unlike life, the film provides such an opportunity. I wanted to re-watch the film not because of the concept and not because of the supposedly confusing plot, but because of Neal.
@Force_Of_Habit
@Force_Of_Habit 3 года назад
Probably because Neil is the only remotely likeable character.
@Sirrajj
@Sirrajj 3 года назад
Yeah that was pretty imotional and revisiting the movie, it makes whole movie a lot better, and a lot of things make sense which we first time missed
@h.ar.2937
@h.ar.2937 3 года назад
Fun Fact: it was Leo who wanted his character to have more of a relatable aspect to it. Otherwise, Inception would have been just like Tenet (emotionally)
@louierubio
@louierubio 3 года назад
Whoa really? Where can I read this?
@h.ar.2937
@h.ar.2937 3 года назад
@@louierubio I saw this at an interview where this was mentioned. I forgot which one it was. (Btw I made the assumption that the character would have been like TP from Tenet) but basically Leo’s character didn’t have this emotional connection to it originally and Leo wanted to change that and Nolan liked it
@louierubio
@louierubio 3 года назад
@@h.ar.2937 I researched and saw some pieces talking about it but not in depth. Would love to see the script before and after the changes.
@roberthoward9500
@roberthoward9500 3 года назад
So with no emotion and no real connection to any of the characters? I watched Tenet and I still know nothing about the main character and found it difficult to care if he died.
@louierubio
@louierubio 3 года назад
@@roberthoward9500 I sometimes wonder if casting could’ve changed that. Like casting maybe Mahershala Ali? And maybe a less tall female protagonist? And maybe a properly Russian actor instead of Branagh? I’m probably wrong though.
@thewhang
@thewhang 3 года назад
The fact that the protagonist's name in Tenet is Protagonist pretty much explains the emotional connection we're supposed to have with the characters.
@foglias
@foglias 3 года назад
It's a hint for classic spy novels. A lot of them they had a nameless protagonist. It is also part of what Dozi 123 stated, it's a meta discourse on how the audience experience cinema, we're The Protagonist going to watch an story unfold (Cue the first shot is people gathered in a theater) and certain people (director, actors, etc) are in charge in taking the protagonist to learn, explore and take decision into knowing the reason for his mission. Time Inversion is technically a brand new concept in cinema, so it makes sense to have a central figure that's in the blind like us and that at the end he realizes his own roll in a whole operation. Sometimes it feels like a videogame.
@Suburban_Pantsula
@Suburban_Pantsula 3 года назад
@Đozi 123 EXACTLY
@marcelv.birgelen2166
@marcelv.birgelen2166 3 года назад
That in it alone is a concept. Unfortunately, it didn't work out, at least not for me. If you want me to care about the characters you create, you need to give me a reason. That's why so many movies have this "save the cat" moment.
@KoolKeithProductions
@KoolKeithProductions 3 года назад
​@Đozi 123 I've been looking everywhere for a clear and concise video essay of why this movie simply doesn't work, and I finally found it. Everyone else is sucking this movie's long slong just because Nolan directed it, but the truth is as pretty as it is, it's just devoid of any emotional connection at all. I just sat there for 2h30mins watching ppl go backwards and forwards and didn't know or even care why. When it was over I immediately watched Inception, Momento and The Prestige back-to-back-to-back just to get the nasty taste Tenet left out of my mouth. But of course ppl will say I was just too dumb to understand it, which is fine. Just remember that as complicated as Inception's concept was, it was still able to actually make you care about *why* Cobb was there, even if you didn't understand *what* he was actually doing. Tenet fails at this.
@Player-kg1ds
@Player-kg1ds 3 года назад
@@KoolKeithProductions Yeah, I feel like the characters could have been written better, especially Neil and Kat. Plus, sometimes it feels like the movie is complicated just for the sake of it. I managed to understand most of this movie which is why I like it, but I understand why someone would give it a bad review.
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