Terra Mystica - Shut Up & Sit Down Review 

Omg my favorite video-essayist is a fan of board games too? Awesome!

Our lord and savior is here ❤️

Whoot! Nice to meet you here :D

I didnt quite get it

2013

Why, it's 2022, of course.

@@benanderson46 so true

What are you saying? It's 2024

@@brandaccount5941 It is. I don't think what SU&SD has become is bad, but it's definitely *different* and I really liked what it used to be more.

It’s called nostalgia 😛

@@kryjchek Not really. Nostalgia is stuff from your childhood, where the pleasant memories of those simpler times mix with your memories of a thing and you associate how happy you were then with the thing itself, even if the thing wouldn't on its own bring that much joy. 6 years ago I was still very much an adult. And I have seen SUASD change over the years, morphing from one kind of show to another. And both have their pros and cons. I personally prefer the older style which had a lot more focus on silly segments, which I think may have been more influenced by Paul as they seemed to fade more as he appeared less often, but that's just a guess. I liked back when their episodes were 20-30 minutes and covered multiple games and had meta plots. It was neat, and felt like an actual TV show. An amateur TV show without much budget, sure, but a TV show nonetheless. It was entertaining in a different way to the way SUASD is entertaining today.

I found out about SUSD late 2018, and I like the new videos more. There are fewer dick jokes for sure, which one only starts to appreciate once over 30 and married.

New SU&SD is fantastic, just different. They have really improved in their camera work. And, they still have a similar joy in what they do.

On the surface I can definitely see that comparison. But in terms of game play the games are actually radically different. They both involve competing to build on hexes of varying terrains and winning by victory point. But I think that's where the similarities stop. Catan is largely about negotiation and playing your opponents rather than the board. Terra Mystica is much more focused on building an efficient engine.

I miss Paul

Congratz, i was waiting too :D

I know I'm a year late, but how so? From what I remember their major criticism of Scythe was it's imbalance and its run-away leader problem. I've played a lot more Scythe than Terra Mystica so it's not the fairest of comparisons, but I've never had those problems with Terra Mystica. I've definitely had them in Scythe. Scythe is a lot more popular at my table but I personally think Terra Mystica is mechanically superior by a long shot.

@@nickspeelman9174 one of the major criticisms was fhe 'plodding'

@@mydemon That’s right. And I guess if you call Scythe “plodding” I’d have a hard time not also applying the word to Terra Mystica - or really any game with an engine-building-like component. So I’ll grant OP that one.

@@nickspeelman9174 I've never played Terra Mystica but one of their main praises was that you're constantly looking at the map to see what everyone else is doing rather than looking at your player mat. Scythe is largely the opposite of that, so I'd say that is one criticism. I love Scythe, but sometimes you'll definitely pay more attention to your strategy/which order you're getting certain objectives than what your opponents are doing, especially those on the other side of the board.

I recently played the game without the expansion again for the first time since the expansion came out, and wow, I forgot what a huge difference it makes. I love Xia, but I'm glad I barely played it when it first came out. I think I might have ended up trading it off.

Yeap. The same with Scythe.

@@Jindorek Embers of a forsaken star is the expansion. Also released this year was a tiny expansion that adds new missions and alternative powers for each ship! Huge!

The sense of humor and chemistry between Quinn and Paul is fantastic.

No Zimmer frame or anything

Thank you for mentioning this! I went all the way to vimeo to see it & am appropriately delighted.

disliking TM? PATHETIC

@@letsplaythatgame Your answer is pathethic.

Yeah, interesting how the video helped make the justification in your head.

I have that video downloaded with a file date of January 2015, and it also has the "What?". Don't know what that says about your mental state, but I guess it has always been there. :)

The mystery is solved!

You looked like you're more into it back then Quinns, I miss that.

Also, the review itself is good. I iked how you talked about negatives here.

I was thinking the same thing. I swear I remember watching this video a few years ago.

It is yes.

This is a pretty old video. Paul is no longer with SU&SD. If I'm not mistaken all the old videos are in vimeo. They post it again cause they want to have everything on YT

This has been up on RU-vid already, my guess is they've just done some late editing for swoosh effects or something like that.

Which do you like more: plastic or wood?

@@CoronaMobius Wood :D But the plastic in Gaia is also very good quality, so I can't make the decision based on just that. :D

Hodor? Bowls.

They don't review games without retail availability

I would definitely recommend Gaia Project over Terra Mystica, I personally felt like it was a big improvement. The only case I'd say Terra Mystica might be better is if you are going to be teaching new players often (as Gaia Project is a bit more to teach) or if you really need the game to go up to 5 players.

@@RyanLangewisch thank you very much, it clears things up!

IMHO Terra Mystica is one the very best board games ever made. Gaia project is "just" a good game. TM has a better theme, more interesting races amd maybe more fluent gaming experience. GP looks like a washed out version of this game that runs longer. GP might be better choice if you and your friends are SCI-FI fans or if you have played TM over 20 times. I have played TM many times and GP only twice. If I can choose I would always pick TM to play rather than GP.

@@mr_baa thanks, this makes my decision even tougher

ye