Once the range extender is installed, it will not be removable without a full day of service. There will be plumbing and high voltage electrical in addition to it being very securely bolted in. I still don’t believe that this will ever be real. It is just not the Tesla way.
I can see it being split into multiple less heavy pieces for easier handling and act as a home battery when not installed in the Truck. But that’s too much of wishful thinking 😅
I agree that the range extender will never happen. I think it was just used to save face when they didn’t meet the promised 500 miles. Tesla could kind of say they could give the range until some time passed and people got used to reality. I think it’s more likely that they’ll just make a truck that comes with a bigger battery if the Cybertruck remains popular enough.
@@Molishiousit will probably for sure happen but not for long because tesla wont be constrained on 4680 for ever. Sooner than later they will just greatly increase the size of the actual battery pack. Tesla knew every single tesla the first year would sell regardless of range could have been 100miles and they would have sold all of them. So lets say the end of this year they offer bigger batter packs on CT then they only have to offer the range extender to the trucks that were delivered in 2024 maybe what a potential of 40K units or something. Maybe only 5% of those even want it. So they potentially only have to do 2,000 range extender installs.
@@zandercerlong9693 Well it will be interesting to see what happens. I’m on the record saying it won’t happen but that’s just a guess of course. I don’t claim to have any special insight. My feeling is that if they were going to exist they would already exist. We’ll see. It doesn’t matter much to me either way as I’m not going to buy a Cybertruck but it’s kind of fun to make a prediction. To me the range extender is much more useful to Tesla as an idea than it is as a product.
Kyle is all over the place in this one. If you like this thing then fine but he criticized it all video and then in summary "idk it's pretty cool". Then he prefers the Hummer for being stupid and the Rivian for being good. Not sure what the point was other than to find a way to make another CT video.
It would be interesting to mention the fuel savings driving 60,000 miles a year. With my assumptions I could see upwards of $45,000.00 over 5 years vs my ICE truck.
Of course, the $9000/yr would be at the expense of home charging 10+ hours every other day unless someone averages less than 100 miles/day...and in that case, why not just have a hybrid PHEV and forego the need for a 2nd car.
@@WaywardAnalysis maintenance of that car with oil changes even with hybrids and the fact that that car is emitting a certain amount. 60k miles a year means definitely over 100 miles a day which is intense. And eventually there will be engine or trans rebuilds so theres definitely benefits. Does the cybertruck even meet these benefits for a business idk ??? but ev trucks certainly will have their place i think. And some business get there own dc fast charging unit so the downtime on charging wont be so bad
The Phantom Battery drain is a thing I've experienced with this truck quite a bit. I've found it to be highly variable. I've done two tests overnight, two days in a row. Conditions were: garaged overnight with ~80% charge each time, Sentry mode off, cabin overheat and AC off. Night one I lost about 2% between 10pm and 6am. Night two I lost exactly 1 mile (0.3%) range. The delta seems to be driven by "mobile App use" when reviewing the energy app in the truck. I'm not sure why this is since I wasn't using the app during that time in either case, but this points to likely a software fix in background app use.
🤔 The BMS is estimating the percentage, my model 3 often has 2-4% more charge in the morning after BMS gets a better read. 0.3-2% seems like a rounding error to me? If it really is from app usage, just make sure the app isn’t running before your next test or turn off your phone over night to make sure.
Tbh I think people are just more polite in person than they would be online. A lot of people (myself included) don't find the Y to be particularly good looking but after I bought mine, folks were always nice about it, calling it pretty etc. I feel like we should preface discussions with folks that they should feel free to be honest about it, since I think no one really wants to crap on someone in person
There's definitely an online specific dynamic going on with the obsession for being critical of Tesla. It has become an online sport of sorts. The number of people who get views by trying to win the "I'll show you how brutally honest I can be about my own fill in the blank Tesla model" is nearly endless. This two hour critique from a relatively popular channel demonstrates how ridiculous the splitting of hairs has gotten.
Definitely! I'll just say things like "oh, I am so glad you're enjoying your car!" or "It's sooo unique!" because I don't want to hurt their feelings, lol.
Couldn’t agree more! I think the Cybertruck is absolutely stupid, ugly, not worth anywhere close to $100k and think the foundation people got straight up scammed with all the missing features they paid for. All that said, if I saw an owner in the street, I’m not gonna be an ass to them. If they are happy, I am happy for them 😊
I was a disliker for looks, until i saw one and it's worse than I was willing to admit. the first truck saw and the owner asked me what it looked like, I honestly told them it's a big trash can looking whatever.😅
@@bear4278The overwhelming response to the CyberTruck is that it looks better in person. I’ve seen multiple CT in showrooms where the was NO owner around obviously and the large crowds were rather positive about the looks. It’s not elegant of course more like BRUTALLY BADASS which is great for a truck. Furthermore foundation buyers DID NOT get ripped off they literally were paying to have it EARLY to be FIRST this happens literally all the time in the auto industry and in other industries. Most of the CyberTruck early Buyers are either wealthy and could care less about paying more. CT is suppose to be 80K for the dual motor that has been selling for 100K. 12K of it is FSD for life, a couple thousand for all the accessories you can possibly buy for the truck, and also a voucher for bi directional install on your house. A foundation buyer is really only paying 5K for the “early” privilege the rest is the buyer actually receiving goods and services.
By far the best EV channel on all of the tubes.! Also, you guys gave me a great suggestion and I found a Ford lightning pro with very few miles on it for 36 grand. Taking delivery of it next week! I can’t wait and I’m gonna be doing some very specific testing Using it as a contractor and for camping and we’re gonna be putting a special hard sided pop top camper on it. I’ll take all the suggestions I can get from Kyle! Thanks and keep up the great work!
i get that some people tow, but IMHO too much consideration is given to towing range in this analysis. 99% of buyers will not tow even once. to compromise the truck with additional weight and battery cost for the 1% would be suboptimal. it’s inconsistent to recommend the dual motor because it’s a better fit for the 99% and at the same time focus so much on towing deficiencies. since when is over 300 miles in the 70 MPH range test considered inadequate?
> i get that some people tow, but IMHO too much consideration is given to towing range in this analysis. 99% of buyers will not tow even once. This statement applies equally across the entire consumer pickup truck market. The average half-ton or light 3/4 ton noncommercial pickup truck owner isn't towing anything regardless of which truck they bought, or even doing any "real truck things" (read: things I couldn't easily do with a minivan) more than once or twice a year if even that. Despite that, most of those buyers will insist that they do in fact need to be able to do those things on a moment's notice so they care about what it can hypothetically do regardless of whether they ever reasonably expect to make use of those abilities.
I will argue that it is a lot higher than 1%. Everybody in my family that owns a truck, tows with it throughout the year. Maybe not every day or every month but enough times to make it an issue buying an EV. I live in the Midwest and during the weekends the amount of people towing something is a lot ( A lot of people own side by sides or boats as well as campers). I would say 10% to 20% probably tow enough to make it an issue. Granted there are a lot of pavement princess out there.
i have always thought that GM's solution of "throwing batteries at the problem" is reckless, wasteful and lazy. why are we celebrating that? for every silverado or hummer EV battery pack you can make 3 regular EVs. feels like offering a "tow package" for those select folks that want to tow while road tripping makes a lot more sense.
Good idea re ‘tow packages’ or maybe a design like v-fast with swapping different size batteries…but that’s a whole other story with logistical issues/not owning your pack🤔 Hopefully the technology changes to become more energy dense/lighter…and the choices increase!
Kyle, I love how in-depth your videos are, but there’s one thing I keep hearing from you and every other reviewer of the Cybertruck. The reach over. If you compare the cyber truck to an equal truck, it would probably be the 2500 or 3500 diesel of the three big OEM’s. So if you could find a 2500 HD 4 wheel drive with 35 inch tires on it I’ll bet you can’t reach over the bed. But the cyber truck has the ability to lower down for more accessibility. That and the ability of the Cybertruck to bulldog (lower the back and raise the front), I believe the Cybertruck is more accessible.
I took delivery of my Tri motor 2 weeks ago. Serial number ~15,000. Only quality issue has been a slight frunk miss-alignment. Zero rattles and the interior seems very well put together relative to earlier models.
Serious? I don’t think I’d call a slight frunk missalignment “serious”. I’ve had non-tesla vehicles with far more serious issues than that out of the box. @mutation666 is the 5K mark some number you know from experience, or just traceable to a WAG?
@@kestrelglassingsystems6704 not a Tesla hater .. I have a model 3 and Y but quality issues are rare with non Tesla new vehicles, especially premium vehicles. In fact I haven't had any quality control issues with the 5 new cars I've owned in my life. Your misalignment issue isn't the end of the world, but we need to collectively expect more from Tesla or at least the same as we would from any other near luxury vehicle
@@GMUTaylor6I’m not saying we shouldn’t expect more, but I’m reporting that they seems to be trending towards better. i drove a ~5000 SN AWD CT in March and it was a train wreck. At ~15000 I’m seeing serious improvement. Kyle is speaking on his experience with a very early SN and his words (which people listen to) carry a message about quality that probably isnt any longer up to date with respect to the CT.
@@steveyoung9687 Super high demand, slow production ramp, $20k addon package required to be one of the first in line, and on top of that an explicit explanation that prices will come down as production volume increases... you're free to pretend you don't understand any of this, but you only make yourself look like a fool.
Bruh....you do realize all of the wishes and recommendations do have a price tag increase attached...so while you conveniently convey better means you do a disservice to the affordability of the given product.
Lmao bruh stop lying Kyle this truck is awesome and it's more fun to drive than any other vehicle and it's not even close and you wouldn't dare trade your Beast in for any of the current offerings as nothing is as fun to drive. So if you want to have fun driving then get the Cybertruck all day long and it has nothing to do with your RU-vid channel. 😂
You know that you’re not obliged to watch, right? You also know you can watch on 2x speed if you’re in a hurry, right? And you know the Kyle gave a few minutes at the start of the video to summarise for those without an attention span usual to a competent adult, right? 🙄
I would like to know about your experience with the CT. Are you not able to charge at home? Do you have to tow more than 120 miles per day? Does the truck have a lot of early production woes? Thanks.
@@surferdude4487 I own a solar & DCFC installation company so access to charging is not the issue. Tons of issues. Its on its 5th trip to the service center right now
ive seen them on the used market for under 100k, they are loosing value pretty fast, when i heard the host mention that he used a bunch of refferral points to skip the line and get on early i could only think "well that was a waste now wasnt it"
When you make a comment like that, I would like to see you back it up. Otherwise, I dismiss you because I believe you are nothing but a troll and likely don't even have a Cybertruck. So, thanks a lot for telling me who you really are.
@@surferdude4487 well inside ev has an article on the subject, rich rebuilds recently made a video on it (taking to a dealer/broker in said video and how demand has drastically dropped off) Forbes has an article about it aswell and multiple used car sites list them at just over 100k at the moment it doesnt take much to find this info and no, i do not own a CT, as its simply not avalible where i live (and will most likely never be) call me a troll all you like, im just seeing early adopters paying a heavy tax, especially when the slightly lower spec of the truck comes out at a much lower price
far into the video they talk about cleaning the steel . Windex is suggested . You can take my word. I've made a living for decades cleaning windows. The cleaning product you want is called ZEP. It cleans glass way better than windex and it comes in one gallon concentrate form for about 10 bucks . (Home Depot ) It is so concentrated that for windows you dilute it about 10 to 1 with water . Yea, I'm not lucky enough to have a cybertruck like you but you will love that product for your truck And your windows
WOW….a marathon all-inclusive review! Incredibly detailed, thorough, well coordinated and presented. An awesome experience for your followers. Leadership and teamwork personified.
Took delivery of a 2022 Tesla Model Y Performance in February 2022. NO build quality issues; have not returned to Tesla for any service issues. More than 2 years and over 58K miles and zero issues.
The tech is interesting. The appearance is personal preference. But the extreme size and hostility to pedestrians is at once the perfect embodiment of America and everything that’s wrong with America
Funny how so many of these reviewers overlook issues with this vehicle like poor build quality, software that was promised and not delivered, design flaws, range over promises and high cost that would be inexcusable in almost any other brand.
I inquired about trading in my Cybertruck to Tesla today. Their official response: TESLA UPDATE- Thank you for requesting a trade-in value. We are not providing trade-in estimates for Cybertruck at this time. Thank you for being a Tesla owner, and please don't hesitate to reach out with any other questions you may have.
CT sounds like it is not fully cooked. My CT email came in but I rejected it. Foundation is ending and if I decide to purchase a CT I will do it at a lower price. How much does insurance cost you on the CT?
The last I heard is insurance companies are starting to choose to not even provide coverage so it is probably going to hard to get and expensive, the CT lost me over a year ago. It has failed for me on every thing that was its original selling point. There was a Elon interview over a year ago and unless it was a sham the interview left the impression he thought the CT was a mistake.
My cybertruck after 3 weeks 2,000 miles… sits in my Okc sevice center parking lot, after the compressor stopped working, they say they have no eta for the compressor parts and they have already had it a week. So that’s cool. Does anyone know if the no compressor part is a real Thing. I think it’s ridiculous. I’ve driven it to work and home and to pickup my disabled kid… no off roading of any kind. So that’s cool. I had it go to high in garage to clear the step in front,, and that’s where it stuck,, and the compressor and I guess a valve stop working.
Sorry to hear your woes. Yes it's most likely a backordered part. If it stays in service for 30 days you can submit for them to buy it back from you, but they're hard to get, so it could be a wait to get a replacement. Your story is similar to others that buy a modern new car, unfortunately. I work at a car dealership and the EVs here often die within 30 miles and the parts are several months away. Pretty sad for a legacy automakers, but they all have issues.
@@jeremyventurino9481 Is his story really similar to anyone that 'buys a modern new car?' Care to point us to where someone has a new vehicle 'fail' and have to wait weeks - never mind months - to get a part? Soft apologists for Tesla's badly built vehicles (is the Cybertruck a new vehicle? Sure. Are compressors new? No...?) . Let's look at the problems GM had with the launch of their Blazer EV for comparison. Electronics gremlins popped when various influencers were testing it, so GM stopped selling it. Now here's the interesting part. They apparently gave $5000 to those owners that had taken delivery of their cars prior to the discovery of the problems (they did not effect everyone) because they dropped the price when putting the vehicle back on sale. While Tesla will literally have users waiting for MONTHS for parts for issues that should not be happening (it doesn't matter how new the vehicles are) in the first place though they're also doing nothing that I have heard to compensate buyers for the problems.
@@screenPhiles GM gives refunds to owners that have had longstanding issues by way of compensation for price cuts (they also gave refunds to Bolt owners when they cut the MSRP on that one, too). Yet Tesla is the "most profitable, largest auto company by market capitalization" in the world.
@@JDCheng Teslas is 'most profitable' because of their stock price, which if you pay attention you're aware is based on little more than perception (such as the nonsense of Elon Musk saying that Tesla isn't a car company; which only an idiot would believe. In any case, their market capitalization is falling. I suspect because reality is catching up to the nonsense). Not sure of your point about GM returning money though what I have noticed is that you haven't addressed the central point, namely Tesla doesn't build cars well and they're not compensating buyers for THEIR mistakes.
Nice video, but seen from EU it is a ridiculously big car, no wonder the batteri seems small, it need around 3 normal EV batteries to have a a reasonable range.
Sigh… why do Europeans feel the need to make the same comment? I was wondering how far I would have to scroll before seeing this comment. Perhaps it wasn’t designed for the European market. I’ve seen several around town and they’re the same as an average full size pickup truck. Roads and streets in North America are larger because we’re not as densely populated as Europe. To put it in perspective: The state of Montana is larger than Germany but has the population of 1.1 million; whereas Germany is 83 million. San Bernardino county (counties are subdivisions within a state (some states have different divisions like Louisiana and Alaska) like departments in France) in California is twice the size of Belgium. Canada is the second largest country in the world but has less the population than California.
This is entirely in the normal range for a full-size truck in the U.S. Have you ever been here? If you ever spend time in the west and midwestern states, you'll come to understand why these large personal trucks (from your perspective) make sense on our large roads and massive expanses of open land.
Like all trucks this is for 'Mericans. You can't be all things to all people. 'Mericans would never be seen in Fiat panda so it evens out. Or Fiat multipla.😂
Hey Kyle. I was shocked you were not sr the polestar 3 drive event in Spain. I was looking forward to your coverage more rhen. Anyone else by far. If I got a $100,000+ vehicle and it had any rattles at all I would be going insane. I can’t handle the slightest rattle. Hoping my polestar 3 performance will not have any. Or it’s going back
That would add a lot of weight for the vast majority of people who won't use this to tow heavy at a distance. GM made a truck for the people who want an EV for towing purposes, but Tesla was aiming for the overwhelming bulk of people who would just be lugging around a massive battery needlessly.
@@kenhiett5266 The whole point of having a truck is to tow . If you can only get 90 miles at a time and have to disconnect your trailer everytime to charge your Cybertruck not going to make a happy vacation. Maybe this is why there is 258 used Cybertrucks on the market right now.
@@scubatrucker6806 Most truck owners literally never tow, and most of the ones that do literally never tow further than 100 miles in a day. If you are one of the rare exceptions, electric trucks aren't for you--but they are for pretty much everyone else.
@@scubatrucker6806that's weird, I averaged about 750Wh/Mi pulling a sand rail and quad on the freeway to the dunes, so that's about 150miles or range while towing with my CyberBeast. What's pitiful is the 3000~6000Wh/Mi I got while riping around on the sand. Sheesh... No one seems to be talking about how bad your efficiency is while doing donuts. ;)
My prediction is that the CT pack will eventually be ~185 kWh. The 4680 "canning" line could quite easily become 46120. That's 40 mm taller, less than 1.6". If you've seen the Munro pack teardown, the void space was discussed. There is plenty of room in the pack for a 40 mm taller cell AND space to vent gas if there is a "bad" battery event. Another option is going to blade or prism style packs.
If an LFP version is viable it would be far better due to limited degradation especially when you talk about selling power back to the grid. Unfortunately if they engineered the cybertruck with only enough space for the current battery then lower energy density LFP is out (70 kwh wouldnt be enough). As he said others have far larger packs and that is one of the biggest disappointments compared to the unveil.
Feel better about getting my R1T two weeks ago. I bet we see an uptick in Rivian and other EV truck sales as Cybertruck reservation holders abandon their reservations.
Rivian only sold 2,400 trucks first quarter, about 800 per month. Cybertruck is selling 800-1,000 Foundation Series trucks per week. Imagine sales when the FS version is done. Good luck Rivian, I'm rooting for you to stay in business long enough to make the R3X, the only interesting thing about Rivian.
@KyleConner - A2Z is making a CyberTruck version of the CCS to Tesla adapter so you can get rid of your ghetto setup with the Tesla adapter with EVJect setup
I've said this to other owners, a non-centered steering wheel can be fixed yourself if you can get a tech to put your car into Service Mode Plus. I took delivery and the next day had a tech call me to schedule my appointment to fix it, and he's was like "you seem to know what you're doing, do you want to fix this yourself?" ... so yeah, all good. His suggestion, which wasn't covered in the manual, is to hold the wheel steady during calibration (lock it in place with your hands, HARD). Otherwise it detects center by rotation all the way to the left, and all the way to the right and assumes that centered is the middle of that. So by holding it centered, it marks center as being where you held it.
I wonder what the current used values of these things are now - especially since the vehicle is becoming less rare. Doesn't feel like it has kept its value compared to early Model 3's.
Just over $100k for AWD FE, but soon to crush for sure, besides design and rareness it’s just not enough hardware & software to objectively justify $100k.
They're still selling for more used than new. Of course, once the pre-orders are all filled and production has ramped enough they'll start reducing prices.
I have to find an appropriate opportunity to use the phrase "schmutzy conditions". The Cybertruck in genuinely interesting, however I'm MUCH more interested in the fact that a Rivian R1S is in the background throughout this video, and that Kyle says "in my OLD R1T" a couple of times. New Rivian joining the Conner family soon? 👀
Parked next to the advertised $40K Ford Lightening with an estimated range of 230 miles and 68 MPG Source "Ford’s base $40,000 F-150 Lightning electric pickup gets 230-miles of EPA range and 68 MPGe" "The $40,000 Chevrolet Silverado EV Is Officially Dead" Redit etc
Could you efficiency test the OEM AT tires vs. the AS tires mounted on your OEM AT wheels? I’m trying to understand whether the Core wheels with AS tires are measurably more efficient than the AT wheels with the same AS tires mounted.
Great video.. Need solar panels on the glass roof or roof racks to slow charge the CT... Maybe a fold-out solar system for camping and get a 50-80% charge in a few days of camping 🏕 game changer in an emergency or when the Zombies come?? 🧟♀️ 🧟♂️
The "one mississippi, two mississippi" requirement before plugging in likely applies only to Out of Spec speed races. It is something they should fix, but likely very few have someone jumping out of the truck, ready to plug iit in within the first few seconds of parking, except for cross-country racing situations done for entertainment.
I think I once got the opposite error, I stopped charging and quickly jumped in to go and it threw a ton of error. It said exit and re-enter, so turning it off and back on again fixed it, as the meme goes.
I drove the Cybertruck a few days ago. I was shocked how unrefined it actually does feel. The Squircle feels like something from a Costoc child's electric car. Steering sensitivity is way off. Taking away the gear switch lever and windshield wiper lever/turn signal was a huge mistake. They refuse to give you a digital rear view mirror - which my Cadillac Lyriq has. The government needs to turn up safety standard demands on car makers like Tesla cause Elon Musk would take away the brake pedal and side mirrors if he could.
Could you perform a fair range test comparison between the Cybertruck, F-150, and Rivian. The test should be conducted at the same elevation and temperature as the previous F-150 and Rivian test, and the Cybertruck should be equipped with wheel caps. The initial Cybertruck test was not comparable to the conditions of the F-150 and Rivian test, so I would appreciate it if you could conduct a new test under the same conditions.
This guy doesn't like Tesla which quite obvious in his videos. And he is a big fan of Rivian. He says FS is worthless. you get FSD and premium connectivity for lifetime = 10k plus powershare home charging etc. So may be just 6k overpriced. FSD will be shipping soon with 12.5.x and light bars are already being shipped. I wonder why Hummer EV and Rivian's arent world best selling cars yet and going bankrupt lol. These records speak for itself. UNSUBSCRIBED
Fit and finish, rattles are mostly the bleeding edge of new models released. Which you buy for content. You have to admit a later model 3 for example was much more dialed in. This is true for many automakers. Thanks for the transparent reviews!
I’ve already canceled one of our Cybertruck reservations because of the 40% miss on projected range for CyberBeast and bloated pricing to get it first, completely voiding the point of a reservation, money grab. After this video I canceled my second reservation. Tesla really screwed up not delivering on the range they projected at reveal. GM is going to mop the floor with the Silverado and Sierra EVs proving to Tesla they should have packed it with range. Yes I’m salty about all they’ve missed from reveal to production. 🤷♂️ Thanks for the video Kyle
No, great review / update. Most reviews on EVs are so surface level. I hardly learn anything from them. But I always learn something watching your deep dives, keep it up!
It's an interesting phenomenon that kids (male and female) go nuts when they see Cybertruck. Others have noticed this too. It's basically the simple and futuristic shape, easy to understand, something a kid might even draw.
I’ve probably seen all Cybertruck review videos out there and this is by far the best one, so thank you. The snow issue with the headlights shocks me. I expected more from Tesla. Is the light bar just purely for aesthetics then?
This is discouraging. Aside from the whole thing rattling apart, including the wheels nearly falling off, oversensitive steering, undersized battery, lack of wheel articulation, overpriced, lookie-loos, it's....become less offensive over time. It's something.
It’s a cool truck but I would rather have a Silverado EV, Ram Rev, or the new refreshed Rivian R1T. I would make sure my next EV has over 400 miles of range on a charge and have faster charging speeds.
I have an idea, why can’t Tesla software be written to void the use of their charger for all other EVs except a EV truck at a charger that is solely for a truck with a trailer. Also going one more step that recognizes another Tesla EV towing a trailer that knows by hooking up a wire harness determines it’s pulling a trailer
I am curious, how tall are you? I am 6-4 and your head is close to the ceiling. How will I fit? Can the seat be lowered from how you typically drive it?
Any reports of people injuring themselves on the sharp corners and points? Apparently happened on 1950s cars with the wings on the back people walk into them or trip and fall on them.
Cybertrucks are not rare. I see them everyday in phoenix. Everyone that thinks an unfinished overpriced vehicle is a good idea has already bought one. Now its price drop time, the prices are going to settle on its real value real fast
The reaching in the bed issue doesn't make sense except in some rare use cases. If there's something large than you're likely to be accessing it from the back and if it's something relatively small, you can just put it in the front or have a small cargo net towards the back. You wouldn't want something relatively small and grabbable flying around the bed when you drive around anyway.
As far as appearance, the rivian has a pretty bizarre look also from the front … not all that less crazy than the look of the cyber truck, really … you have to have a lot of guts to want to be seen in either vehicle… neither is “normal”…. Both are over-the-top crazy in appearance
