Electric Trucks Tow 500mi Over The Rocky Mountains! Cybertruck vs Lightning vs Silverado EV vs R1T

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Trucks are meant to work. Time to put these EV pickups through their paces over the entire Rocky Mountain range, twice! From Denver to Grand Junction & back, find out which of these trucks makes for the best towing experience.
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@OutofSpecReviews 6 месяцев назад

We have a summary and supplemental info on our Podcast channel here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5VMO0Wb7fic.htmlsi=O9ooiYCDNeQhFpV_

@chrisnicholas5509 6 месяцев назад

Silverado EV in the next race to Vegas ?

@jarrodf_ 5 месяцев назад

Appears the Silverado would be the way to go for people actually using EV as a truck (presumably for average daily commutes, with home charging).

@Slider68 5 месяцев назад

One thing that would improve the video is if you could add a text overlay stating which truck is being videoed and discussed at that moment.

@MotoGPatrick 5 месяцев назад

@@jarrodf_ Until you factor in the inefficiency driving the cost to be the same as gas. GMs bad track record with batteries and only 100,000 mile warranty on them not 150,000. GM made a big pack, only selling 300 to fleet operators at a loss to get attention to pretend to be ahead of the competition.

@jarrodf_ 5 месяцев назад

@@MotoGPatrick Not aware cost is the same as gas. Tesla's battery warranty is also 100k. Silverado EV is available to retail customers in a few months; dealers already taking orders.

@Owenscameron 6 месяцев назад

Kyle at 7:08 "Let's just go for it, let's not make this a super long video." Also Kyle: Publishes 2.5 hour video 😆 Love it!

@Cowcow211 6 месяцев назад

My thoughts exactly lol

@schutrupsg 6 месяцев назад

I guess for Kyle super long means more than 3 hours.

@Jordan_Schiefer 6 месяцев назад

Actual footage was over 5 hours, I had to cut out over half. 😁

@treborheminway3814 6 месяцев назад

Time is relative....

@andyzegerman 6 месяцев назад

Though one would have to say, if you are trying to get a truck for mostly towing, then a long video like this is research gold.

@AnshelSag 6 месяцев назад

I love you guys, but if you're going to do a 2 1/2 hour-long video, could you at least PLEASE use chapters?

@Noisy_Cricket 6 месяцев назад

I don't think Kyle/Alyssa use an editor. They seem to be doing all the editing themselves, so that would explain it.

@londonwestman1 4 месяца назад

If your looking at things to improve for the viewer, it would be nice to have a little sign when we switch to know which truck is which. I'm there trying work out which truck we're in from the middle of the steering wheel when it's in shot or the screens. Or from Andreas' accent.

@CS-qc7np 4 месяца назад

@@londonwestman1 we were thinking the same thing.

@tone_bone 28 дней назад

This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@SparkySho 4 дня назад

0 0 : 0 0 charter 1 ha

@mattbrew11 6 месяцев назад

I have ten lightnings as part of my work fleet and they have been flawless. A couple of them are approaching 60k miles. Towing or hauling every day.

@fastindy 5 месяцев назад

Out of curiosity, what is the average payload, daily miles, and average towed weight? Or general use case?

@mattbrew11 5 месяцев назад

@@fastindy thats hard to state but towing is on average about 5500lbs

@DustinBigMac 3 месяца назад

That's awesome, I'm curious on how far they will do but other than that keep me posted

@KiRiTO72987 2 месяца назад

Just curious how often do you have to DC fast charge them or do they mostly just do Level 2 AC charging overnight

@mattbrew11 2 месяца назад

@@KiRiTO72987 they almost never DCFC. Im usually charging them while on site doing construction

@j4k3br4k3 6 месяцев назад

I just did a 500 mile towing trip in my R1T at 60mph. 1.4 mi/kWh, 5500# load with small area, 3 charging stops. 500 miles towing on 1 stop is insane for the silverado.

@KiRiTO72987 2 месяца назад

Yeah but it also has a massive battery and is crazy expensive

@TxChristopher Месяц назад

@@KiRiTO72987 you pay for what you get?????

@bad50 Месяц назад

@@KiRiTO72987 mine was under 66k for 4wt trim and 450 mile range. Range is king

@yeetgod1144 Месяц назад

@@bad50 where did you buy it?

@swedechef9628 6 месяцев назад

The Chevrolet SilvErado is an absolute game-changing beast. Very Impressed!

@MH-Tesla 6 месяцев назад

Until the battery fails because they push the charge rate too much. Win early, lose in the long run.

@bahamatodd 6 месяцев назад

@@MH-TeslaThe battery can take such a high charge because of its size. It's really only two batteries charging at about 175 kWh each. It's not strained at all.

@MH-Tesla 6 месяцев назад

@@bahamatodd I own a lawn care company. I really prefer an 8' bed, but can work with a 6' bed if needed. Never does a crew go even close to 100 miles in a day. My primary issues with trucks: 1) they don't make me money. They are a necessity to get the crew to jobs. 2) the crews damage (dent) trucks. They also rust quickly. 3) the cost per mile for a truck that has an acceptable body/looks okay, that's what I need. If I get any of these trucks for my company, the Cybertruck is the only one close. Once the price gets where it will after ramp and used trucks are being sold, the only truck for a contractor is the Cybertruck. That's the real work truck.

@chetsaxton1526 6 месяцев назад

The charge rate is not to high. 4WT is duel 400 VDC packs in parallel, when charged by EA 350 KW (around 1000 VDC) the two halves switch to series turning it into a single 800 VDC pack. Haven't watch the full video yet, but the Cyber truck is reported to do the same thing going to keep watching to see if that driver gets the same charging speeds when connected to 350 KW / 1000 VDC charger.

@niktak1114 6 месяцев назад

@@MH-Tesla the Silverado charging at 350kw is roughly equivalent to a model Y charging at 120kW

@solomongabert6776 6 месяцев назад

Whenever Kyle sees a car.. "Wow! Look at that! Amazing old car! I am a huge fan of that car! Amazing! So cool! Wow!" ... and ten minutes later the same conversation.. different car... 🤣 We love it! Keep it up Kyle!

@lemongavine 6 месяцев назад

His dad does that too

@davedubreuil 6 месяцев назад

33:24 “Imagine if we stopped our test here and called it the Ike… glove or something like that” 😂 😂 ❤

@777Outrigger 6 месяцев назад

Kyle's just a force of nature.

@davidmcottrell 6 месяцев назад

Love this video. It's awesome to see the real world tests. Also great to see the shout out for Emerald City Rivian Club as well 16:40!

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

👍

@Bfranklyn731 6 месяцев назад

It isn't just a bigger battery in the silverado, it's also fast charging!!

@evanstumpges1851 6 месяцев назад

A higher capacity battery is usually complimentary with faster charging. Silverado was definitely impressive in this EV towing competition!

@Bfranklyn731 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@orlandosaenz1553 5 месяцев назад

Silverado also has coolant directly fed into the charge inlet to keep it cool while charging.

@Bfranklyn731 5 месяцев назад

@@orlandosaenz1553 👌

@DustinBigMac 3 месяца назад

@@orlandosaenz1553That's awesome

@-Enginerd 6 месяцев назад

2:01:15 "Kyle is already out in Pennsylvania I guess". We've got a funny German on our hands! Haha

@popcornisgood 6 месяцев назад

Hello from the driver of the transit van you threw shade at after passing at 31:10! 😋 I had just seen your range video and when I saw a bunch of EV trucks towing identical payloads on i-70, I had a feeling it might be you guys. Sure enough! Looking forward to your EV van content someday!

@DYT-jx4jp 6 месяцев назад

Cool this part made it into the video 👍😁

@phxees 6 месяцев назад

Future videos should have text in the corner telling you which truck is which. Really difficult to keep the trucks straight especially if you skip around a little.

@Nebula1701 6 месяцев назад

Guess they are expecting you to know the people per each truck or recognize the interiors. Wasn't hard for me but I am already relativity familiar with each truck.

@phxees 6 месяцев назад

@@Nebula1701 I tried, but it's a two-hour video and I was multitasking. I feel like it's a little work on their part and thousands will benefit. Plus, if you share the video starting at a timestamp then there's much less need to explain.

@londonwestman1 4 месяца назад

Totally agree.

@Paul-cj1wb 6 месяцев назад

All these EV truck tests and races makes this the greatest EV truck series to ever be done and recorded to this point in history. And EV trucks should all have their port on the right front to accommodate pull in charging while towing on V3's and other chargers. Even Tesla fails by not placing their own Cybertruck's port there. We know that pull through stalls will take quite a few years to propagate all throughout the country. And of course, all should be 800v with backwards compatibility with 400v chargers. Either by splitting the pack in two, or a proper on-board DC charger that provides at least 200kw charging on them.

@Nebula1701 6 месяцев назад

What everyone is missing is the port location is really dependent on charging equipment location in the truck and the shortest cable run into the battery. It becomes a packaging and efficiency issue with longer runs needing thicker wires.

@chrismuir8403 6 месяцев назад

How about 2 charging ports - right front, and rear left. Full compatibility with nose first or tail first charging.

@bikeaddictbp 6 месяцев назад

@@chrismuir8403That's pretty expensive to do ... each one needs independent means of electrical isolation. You cannot have the live pins on the same circuit - you cannot have the pins in the unused port live when the other one is being used.

@bikeaddictbp 6 месяцев назад

@@Nebula1701It's true, but all of these are all-wheel-drive, and they all have "electrical stuff" with high powered electrical circuits at both the front and rear of the vehicle. Both Ford and Rivian got it right ... and GM has it in the right spot on their other EVs.

@bikeaddictbp 6 месяцев назад

I had an intuitive suspicion that a front-mounted charge port would be better for on-the-road charging while towing before watching this video, now I'm absolutely convinced of it. Seems like that's the only main knock against the Silverado.

@Tearitupsports 6 месяцев назад

I own a Lightning and my son has already declared the cybertruck to be his favorite after watching the first race across America video. I’m preparing myself for another ego beat down.

@FastRedPonyCar 6 месяцев назад

Range issues or not, at the end of the day, at least you're the one driving a normal looking truck.

@pasad335 6 месяцев назад

Is you son 8 years old?

@timberthewolf733 6 месяцев назад

Different trucks for different use cases. The F-150 is great and relatively affordable... But too small for me just like the Rivian. Cybertruck is long enough for what I need but I'm not paying that exta 20k foundation series.

@Tearitupsports 6 месяцев назад

@@pasad335close. He is 7

@whodat9198 6 месяцев назад

@@FastRedPonyCarwhy am I not surprised at the number of insecure males driving pickup trucks 😂

@sorka95032 6 месяцев назад

How does this channel only have 217K subscribers? It should have millions given the value it provides.

@shainebingham9310 6 месяцев назад

I was thinking the same.

@mattbrew11 6 месяцев назад

Speaks to the current ev market

@Ultimatebubs 5 месяцев назад

It's pretty niche content at this point. Most people aren't towing with EV's right now. Cool content, but if someone had done this with an ICE truck they probably would have beat the Silverado EV's time by an hour.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

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@JT_771 6 месяцев назад

Can we please get summary information at the end of these? Preferably time-stamped? Interested in the info but am simply unwilling to watch 2.5 hours of minutia to get it.

@SomeTechGuy666 6 месяцев назад

I agree, this is terrible videography. I even watched the summary video and I still don't have any numbers - average speed, range, charging time, etc. All I got out of this is the Silverado has a big battery. I knew that before I watched the video.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Most videos are fast for ward accessible

@newscoulomb3705 6 месяцев назад

1:13:49 Generally, Silverado EV drivers are still going to want to prioritize ChargePoint, EA, and EVgo over the Superchargers because of the voltage differences. Luckily, with the Silverado's range and flatter charging profile, people will be able to be a bit more picky about which 350+ kW public chargers they use.

@bradallen1832 4 месяца назад

Is there a problem with using 800 V SuperChargers?

@newscoulomb3705 4 месяца назад

@@bradallen1832 There wouldn't be a problem other than the fact that they don't currently exist.

@stingerBTW 6 месяцев назад

Most American video I've seen all day 😤😤👌

@fergman300 6 месяцев назад

Grand Junction....visited there 15 years ago, pulled the trigger and purchased a house there. Best move of my life. Luv that town...Hope they step it up and invest in some of those latest generation ChargePoint DC fast chargers.

@Speedy2222 6 месяцев назад

Yes! These are the tests we need

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Quality indeed

@SmokiesDen 6 месяцев назад

I never understand why on these races to vegas / across colorado the tesla drivers never stop in edwards at the 250 for a quick top up to make rifle or parachute which are both 250's and always stop at the craptastic 125 in glenwood springs.

@kingbran923 6 месяцев назад

@OutOfSpecReviews You guys are killin it with this content, I love it!

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

109%

@iMaxPatten 6 месяцев назад

With working chargers the Silverado EV is unstoppable.

@davidbeppler3032 6 месяцев назад

If they had the Cybertruck battery extender, this would be a closer comparison. $16k for 47kWh of 450lbs battery.

@mattbrew11 6 месяцев назад

@@davidbeppler3032and then your max towing gets destroyed because of the huge payload loss. The weight on that battery is gonna be 625 because it needs to meet DOT regs

@Saddex 6 месяцев назад

@@davidbeppler3032the Silverado would still win though because the battery capacity is so much larger still, 212 kwh vs 170 kwh.

@davidbeppler3032 6 месяцев назад

@@mattbrew11 So, still 1500lbs less than the Chevy? Seems good. Also, the Silverado efficiency is pretty low.

@mattbrew11 5 месяцев назад

@@davidbeppler3032 no. Your understanding of payload as it relates to towing is non existent.

@JackOLanternBob 6 месяцев назад

Would be nice if you could plug the model 3 that's being towed into the truck to expand the battery while towing

@briankeeley6464 6 месяцев назад

Or the trailer. Imagine if the deck of that trailer was a battery that the truck could use. I keep wondering why Tesla isn't building one of these.

@davidmenasco5743 6 месяцев назад

@@briankeeley6464Trailers with batteries seems inevitable to me, especially if battery prices come down as expected. The thing that's missing is a standard for getting the trailer's energy into the truck. I suppose they could just have the trailer battery drive the trailer wheels and take that load off the truck. But I'm not sure what kind of challenges that would bring, maybe a lot. I think it's already being done by a couple of companies but haven't heard anything about it lately.

@Nick-ue7iw 4 месяца назад

@@briankeeley6464 Because if the trailer has a giant battery, it would be useless since you couldnt load anything on it. Duh.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Indeed

@KiRiTO72987 2 месяца назад

I think the weight penalty of adding a battery to the trailer would kill tow rating

@jayv5624 6 месяцев назад

I have to hand it Chevy. Only made it half way through the video and the Silverado seems to be the most useful truck when it comes to towing. I'm impressed so far.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

I hope it’s not as hard for you as it is for me …. But ya gotta give credit where credits due MAN THAT HURTS

@bad50 Месяц назад

i love mine so far

@dixikloos5352 6 месяцев назад

Cybertruck and the Silverado are the coolest😎

@TeslaDrew 6 месяцев назад

Exactly the test we needed!

@AWIraq 6 месяцев назад

for the love of God, please make your videos 25 - 35 minutes max , it will be more attractive

@jysmtl 6 месяцев назад

@@AWIraqNot this one. I want every detail.

@AWIraq 6 месяцев назад

@@jysmtl ya. i understand, but he can simply separate it into multiple videos

@jysmtl 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, or edit this long one into a nice concise one. Or, at least, add a nice summary at the end. To his credit he did provide the basic results there at the beginning.

@RickMcMichael 6 месяцев назад

Yeah I clicked the video to find out the results... The Results... are there any, still havent seen them except the one at the end.

@PeaceChanel 6 месяцев назад

Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤

@grantlouw3182 6 месяцев назад

Wow epic test, thank you and well done!

@Cowcow211 6 месяцев назад

Kyle driving with high beams on in the snow, driving me crazy.

@brianh854 6 месяцев назад

That’s what it looked like to me. I was hoping he would have moved the camera to the screen to see if the highs were on. If not then damn the lights need to be adjusted. Without the highs on he would have had a clear sight of the road. Rookie mistake

@spacebound1969 3 месяца назад

@@brianh854 No, the Silverado EV just has the same issue every single fucking new truck has. The high beams are too bright and placed way too high for winter conditions. The only truck that gets this right is the cybertruck since it's lights are at bumper level.

@AWildBard 6 месяцев назад

Keeping it Real! Great real world testing.

@ChicagoBob123 6 месяцев назад

That silverado is impressive

@thewaterboy2013 6 месяцев назад

Often times I will put these on in the background and not watch as much as listen. Visuals of the mountains in this though were just too gorgeous to not watch.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Spectacular indeed

@wasabi521 6 месяцев назад

Looking forward to this

@yayinternets 6 месяцев назад

Dang, you beat me.

@tazeat 6 месяцев назад

It's not JUST big battery though, it's also the solid 800v charging curve. Trucks NEED 800v and big boy curves.

@oof_Dad 6 месяцев назад

What do you you think you gain from over 250 kw speed? A few minutes from 0-30%, everything over that is below 250 anyway. Holding 250 kw longer/deeper will increase speed more. 800v is better for cost but cells still limit charge curve.

@tazeat 6 месяцев назад

Uh 350kW is 40% more speed over 250kW putting a lot more area under the curve for that part off the charge? The 4WT doesn't taper until like 35%, that's a whole MY LR battery before it even starts to slow. It doesn't go below 250kW until after 60%. Big boy curve. 250kW@400V=625A, which makes some pretty serious heat loss in just the wiring. It just doesn't make a lot of sense for trucks when you need to put in real energy.

@oof_Dad 6 месяцев назад

@@tazeat true, the Silverado is on another level with that huge pack. Didn't realize how long it held 350. 250 is fine for the others but that monster pack has a LOT of curve over 250. Should have watched till that part before commenting 😬.

@Paul-cj1wb 6 месяцев назад

Yep. Check out the 2025 Taycan curve. It stays over 300kw past 62% and then above 200kw till 76%. It can do that because 800v keeps everything around the pack so much cooler and it's so much easier to cool the cells. Most people can't understand that no matter how much you explain it to them. For example, the Taycan never went past 130F while the 250kw speed of new Model X (400v) with it's tremendous curve all the way to 31% reached 140F by that time. And the new Model X and S are charging monsters. But 800v simply takes it to another level. That's the future of all EVs, but especially for trucks. No trucks going forward can afford to be 400v.

@alanrickett2537 6 месяцев назад

No it is just a big battery as that automatically gives you the other stuff, the problem is it's a dumb business decision to to put 3 cars worth of batteries into a one truck ,but they trucks never make sense for 90 percent of the idiots that buy them.

@MrStian78 6 месяцев назад

Famous last words: "Let`s not make this a super long video!" 150 minutes later.... 😄

@stevehofer3482 6 месяцев назад

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if these trucks got about 1.3 miles per kw/hr then that would be about 43 mpgE. Compared to gas pickups towing at 12 mpg, that's a lot more efficient. It will be interesting to see how efficient the upcoming trucks will be that use an electric motor and an ice generator.

@UintaDave 4 месяца назад

I’m trying to have an open mind. But seeing everyone stand around a charger while they pay ~$80 doesn’t really persuade me.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Very

@Tazdeviloo7 3 месяца назад

@@UintaDave It's a lot more to fill up a diesel truck. The Chevy only needed one 30 min stop over 500 miles while towing through a blizzard. I stop more than that in a regular gas fueled road trip lol. The other trucks with the multiple stops did not look fun though especially having to unhitch.

@arbiter1 3 месяца назад

@@Tazdeviloo7 pretty sure he said he was there for almost an hour so bit more then 30min. looked back i think 14% to 92% took 56min @1:38:34

@Tazdeviloo7 3 месяца назад

@@arbiter1 Good catch. He could have shortened it a bit by going to 80% since it's real slow after that so I guess a 45 minute stop is realistic or 1 hour if you need the extra range like he did. I see how the Tesla semi using a 1000kW charger now makes sense. With out a trailer, that's a gas equivalent road tripper. 1 normal lunch stop to charge and 2 400 mile driving legs. With a trailer, not equivalent yet. I tow electric and the biggest pain for me is not the frequency of stops, but having to unhitch to charge most times. Most dirtbike races I do are within an hour or two from home so completely powered by my off grid solar including the bike though.

@777Outrigger 6 месяцев назад

The subconscious assumption here is that to be a real pickup, then you have to be able to tow 1000s of pounds 100s of miles regularly. That's only about 7% of the pickup market. But if you need to tow with an EV, then the Silverado is the beast.

@Nick-ue7iw 4 месяца назад

Why do people assume pickup owners either constantly tow or never tow? Most of us tow 1-2 times per year, maybe 3-4 in a busy year.

@constantinnescu1564 6 месяцев назад

I cant believe I looked an over 2 hours video, and be so captivated. Well, this adventure was deservind an Graphics result with times and parameters for every car and not the obvious conlusion that the Silverado îs the best. Something like , / total pits / total charging time / total kwh charged / AVG. Consumtion / AVG speed / 500 ml towing chalenge final time A lot of thanks and apreciation for this supeproduction which will remain în history for ever.

@bestestimesreborn 6 месяцев назад

Great video, great editing. Enjoyable to watch. Thanks

@alancobbin 6 месяцев назад

You are certainly smashing these truck videos guys👍💪😉

@alancobbin 6 месяцев назад

I watched this from start to finish,superb guys what a journey,thank you to everyone involved 👍💪😉

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Dig dat

@Iangamebr 6 месяцев назад

I guess it shouldn't be a surprise, but cool to see that the Cybertruck was the most efficient of all. It could definitely be second place in this race but things like choosing the wrong stop do happen in the real world as well.

@bikeaddictbp 6 месяцев назад

I don't think it would have made up the difference. The charging curve is still not great, and the charge port is in the wrong spot (unhitching), and you can't use a CCS station, so fewer charging options.

@Iangamebr 6 месяцев назад

@@bikeaddictbpthey definitely had all 250kw charging stations that was needed that trip. Same charging speed at 250kw at the top compared to rivian with a more efficient vehicle, Cybertruck could've definitely gotten second there.

@boostav 6 месяцев назад

@@bikeaddictbp Would have definitely made the difference, he hit two 125kW chargers and even spent time power sharing at 60kW.

@felgen24 6 месяцев назад

Put Kyle in the Cybertruck and he would have won🎉

@GA-wq8xq 6 месяцев назад

@@felgen24he didn’t win in the cybertruck on the coast to coast race

@islandoftiki 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@kqschwarz 6 месяцев назад

Watched the whole thing. Great video.

@ItsAllGood168 2 месяца назад

Great crew to listen to for 2+ hours 🙂 even handed, pleasant, friendly, competitive… great story

@schutrupsg 6 месяцев назад

Great video guys. Love the long distance races.

@jon1913 6 месяцев назад

Honestly, my house is fully EV (Tesla Model X and a Chevy Bolt) and I've never considered an EV truck for long distance towing but that Silverado was impressive. I currently tow my small retro camper with the Model X and it get the job done but the Silverado would put it to shame. Maybe in 6-10 years when it's time to sell the Tesla I'll pick one up.

@Boomtendo4tw 6 месяцев назад

Silverado isn't getting the attention it deserves

@iamnid 6 месяцев назад

probably because it isn't available to anyone but fleet purchasers at this point.

@jysmtl 6 месяцев назад

It won’t get attention until it’s available to the public.

@Nunya-lz9ey 6 месяцев назад

I kind of agree. From a technological perspective, it’s not impressive, anybody can pack 200kWh in a truck and get their range. From a range perspective alone, it’s great. From a towing perspective it still stinks because the lack of pull through chargers. From a price perspective, it prices out 99% of people. From a complete package, it’s an expensive and inconvenient solution to a minor issue.

@gmv0553 6 месяцев назад

@@iamnidorders are being placed while we speak! I know someone who ordered his a couple weeks ago. They told him to expect it by May.

@gmv0553 6 месяцев назад

@@Nunya-lz9eythe Silverado they are testing is $50,000 less expensive then the Cybertruck they are testing! The Cybertruck is a failure for the money!

@BradleyHetherington 6 месяцев назад

One minute in to the video and I'm already thinking, OoS content is going off the charts!

@colegreene2153 6 месяцев назад

I know these can’t be cheap videos but this is exactly the cutting edge testing I look for

@rafaelmartinez6112 Месяц назад

Wao guys, all of you push the envelop, no just for the trucks, but also physically. The Silverado shined demonstrating that big battery pack make a big difference. Excellent job.

@ryansherman4556 6 месяцев назад

great job on all the work you did to get this done

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Well edited

@andr0373 6 месяцев назад

This is great, what a fun and useful experiment. Hopefully the manufacturers watch and make improvements, many of which could be done with existing hardware. I tow quite a bit with my MYLR and it has some similar issues, but also is an excellent tow vehicle for less than a couple hundred miles.

@Someguy-rf1cu 6 месяцев назад

Silverado is the real "Beast." What a performance!!

@mrtt9800 6 месяцев назад

For sure becauses it has massive battery

@KiRiTO72987 2 месяца назад

@@mrtt9800 true but it also has the massive advantage of being on an 800 Volt architecture and also having an absolute monster charging curve

@bad50 Месяц назад

Loving mine so far. actually gets more than the EPA which is crazy since Im use to my tesla over estimating. Nice to have zero range anxiety. Litterally charege to 80%, drive a couple hundred miles in a day for work and still come home with 150-200 miles. I also tow a 16' dump trailer several times a month and it tows it better than my f150. Go with the 4wt and you can pick one up for 66k without a tax rebate

@jonperkins8696 6 месяцев назад

I'm very impressed at how much better towing and range has got on trucks

@hardyk2010 6 месяцев назад

@10:32 Jordan rocking the MKBHD hoodie.. he should've been towing the Miata ;)

@nroose 6 месяцев назад

I saw one of the Silverado EV's on Tuesday evening at the Berkeley Marina.

@Williamxmr 6 месяцев назад

EV trucks need huge batteries, period.

@Bryan-Hensley 6 месяцев назад

We were talking about that on another channel. To charge that battery in 30 minutes would require the power infrastructure the same as 132 homes for just one charger. 10 chargers would require the power infrastructure to power 1,320 homes. So a state the size of Georgia would need an extra power infrastructure to power 105 million extra homes.

@Williamxmr 6 месяцев назад

@Bryan-Hensley how many gallons of gasoline does America burn per day? That's a real consideration if EV's are ever to "take over"

@makmoto0606 2 месяца назад

Petrol trucks need huge fuel tanks.

@Williamxmr 2 месяца назад

@@makmoto0606 right. This isn’t an efficiency game, it’s about energy storage.

@makmoto0606 2 месяца назад

@@Williamxmrdepends on use case, contractor in town, save money with more efficient EV truck. Not everyone needs to tow and second home a thousand miles. People think each vehicle needs to met their ideal use case. This may not be your vehicle.

@shahzadiqbal1976 6 месяцев назад

Amazing video guys. And loving the sound tracks and the production quality.

@newscoulomb3705 6 месяцев назад

People were so gung-ho to criticize the Chevy Bolt EV that they completely overlooked the fact that GM has had some of the best, most dialed-in blended and regenerative braking systems of any automaker since 2017. I know some people prefer the regen configurations from other automakers, but most of that seems to stem from personal preferences and a desire for coasting, which is unnecessary if you have proper blended breaking and cruise control.

@wzDH106 6 месяцев назад

Agreed, the Gen 2 Volt had intuitive blended, regen, and regen on demand, it didn't matter what sequence or combination of regen techniques were used, it was all incredibly smooth the way it blended together.

@wzDH106 6 месяцев назад

Agreed, even the slightly earlier Gen 2 Volt had intuitive blended, regen, and regen on demand. It didn't matter what combination or sequence of regen techniques were used, they all blended together into a smooth execution. Unlike some Korean brands *cough Niro cough*.

@yetisiedzinski1007 4 месяца назад

Coasting seems natural to people who learned and drove on auto transmissions most of their lives. Give me proper regen breaking controlled by the accelerator and possibly some "virtual gears" to control it! just like manual trans please :)

@MrTsolar 2 месяца назад

Best blended brakes I've ever experienced was the Mitsubishi I-MiEV. Took a trained ear to tell when the friction brakes engaged because you can't tell by feel, it's that smooth. 1st gen Volt was okay, 1st gen LEAF was horrible, but I couldn't give an honest answer about the Bolt EV because I max out regen before pressing the brake pedal. The friction brakes alone come in smoothly, although they are underpowered to stop the Bolt on their own. There is always Neutral for coasting, which doesn't put the drivetrain at risk in an EV since nothing mechanically disconnects. For hypermiling though, the more aerodynamic the car, the less benefit coasting provides, especially if a permanent magnet motor is used. Induction motors can benefit more since neutral completely shuts off the drive inverter and cuts power consumption whereas permanent magnet motors must remain powered.

@valerianteritron4424 4 месяца назад

This video is sooo great!!! Having the best 4 electric pickups in such a great comparison! This video should be a must for a US pickup interested people to finally choose their pickup EV !

@bsaxman2012 6 месяцев назад

I've blocked out 30 minutes a day for the next 6 days to watch all of this. Can't wait!

@yeetgod1144 Месяц назад

Kyle's reasoning for him in the Silverado: It's the best at it, it's built for this stuff. That's why I'm gonna be in it. lol

@naarealy 6 месяцев назад

Silverado is the truck Cybertruck should have been. Team Cybertruck also had terrible race strategy in this video, basically just winging it.

@keithwilson1554 6 месяцев назад

Try to Remember Towing should be done at Safe Speeds and the Driver needs to take responsible Breaks to maintain concentration. If you can get 300 Miles out of a Tow in an EV before needing to charge that should be enough. Batteries will only get better. Regressing to a Diesel which emits Carcinogenic Fumes is like someone taking up smoking Again but making sure everyone nearby gets secondhand Smoke.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

109%

@beltrams 6 месяцев назад

I love how Kyle knows all the voltage and ampacity capacities and limits off the top of his head. 'A total EV guru!

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

I’m saying

@LJLion 6 месяцев назад

Silverado is definitely the right equation for ev towing which CT should have been. It's a shame that you can only get as a fleet for right now.

@bikeaddictbp 6 месяцев назад

Retail versions are about a month or two away, so it won't be long. I believe they've already started building them.

@danchen6783 6 месяцев назад

My Chevy dealer said they started taking retail orders last week.

@davidmenasco5743 6 месяцев назад

It's good to have an EV truck designed with longer distances in mind. I suspect, as time goes on, people will think more about whether they need all that battery or not. I guess the question is, if only 10% of truck drivers ever tow, what percent THINK they need a truck that will tow long distances? This will determine the market size for big battery trucks. Of course, part of the consideration will be resale value. Even if I don't need to tow, my truck will hold value better in the long run if it can.

@LJLion 6 месяцев назад

@@davidmenasco5743 This is carefully weighing in the balance between abondance and scarcity. I prefer the former. Give me big battery, that way range whether towing or not becomes a non issue. 400+ miles range is definitely a good threshold.

@bad50 Месяц назад

they are selling work truck versions to retail customers now. i paid 66k for a 4wt with 450 miles of range. acutally gets closer to 500...go figure.

@markbartlett6287 3 дня назад

At a US average gas pump rate of 13 gallons per minute, my 40mpg Avalon hybrid can take on a full circumnavigation of the Earth (24,000 miles) worth of fuel in a little over 46 minutes. (Just not all at once. I'd have to make 39 stops of about 74 seconds each and drive 400 hours at 60mph.) I'm impressed with the Silverado's 350Kw charging speed, but EV's still have a long way to go to road trip like an ICE powered vehicle. Keep the great videos coming though. I'm enjoying watching the amazing progress EVs are making!

@randr10 5 месяцев назад

The surge brakes on these uhaul trailers might actually hurt range on the electric trucks because the brakes come on any time the tow vehicle slows whether you want it to or not. They work great and they're super smooth for towing but you don't want friction brakes coming on when you're doing regen only. I would assume that the manufacturers designed these to not apply the electric trailer brakes during regen. There's a solenoid that bypasses the brakes when your tow vehicle reverse lights come on, so there may be a way to trick that into happening on the tow vehicle during regen, but I don't know if the engineers thought of that. I would assume they didn't.

@ItsJustFelix 5 месяцев назад

The algorithm graced me with this channel yesterday, and I've binged a whole lot! I adore road trip videos from gears and gasoline, so these being a lot longer is AWESOME! :D

@michaelsmithers4900 6 месяцев назад

Goes to show how important planning is… slow down a little and increase your range to skip a charge🤷‍♂️

@pfang100 5 месяцев назад

Competition is great. Glad to see so many e trucks all doing well. It is sure that if you are not in a race. Every one of this truck is doing well.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

No useful emissions emitted NOT ONE

@jacksonbangs6603 6 месяцев назад

AWESOME video you guys! Real world testing is what I like to see for electric vehicles, especially electric pickup trucks.

@maverikshooter 3 месяца назад

The red buss 2428 charging on a Kempower charger at 2:33. That is from Sweden, in the city of Jönköping. I drive the busses from that bus depot, including of course bus 2428.

@stikbotforzafilmsandmore 6 месяцев назад

If the cybertruck weighs less then the R1T and Silverado ev, then how is the cybertruck not epa range tested yet? Because the Silverado ev is 9,000 lbs and is epa tested.

@evkx 6 месяцев назад

It is not illegal to EPA test a heavy truck.

@realMysta 6 месяцев назад

Because Tesla likes to skirt requirements in their favor/save time.

@TroySavary 6 месяцев назад

Because the EPA numbers will be lower than their fraudulent claims.

@bikeaddictbp 6 месяцев назад

For >8500 GVWR manufacturers can opt to go through the test procedure, and may have done so in order to demonstrate what they can do. Others may have chosen not to, for whatever reason. It isn't mandatory for >8500 lb GVWR.

@boostav 6 месяцев назад

@@TroySavary Yeah sure, the only truck that hit its stated range while doing 70mph in Kyle's side by side test.

@tristanhipps604 Месяц назад

The logic of the dude in the cybertruck is mind boggling. Wow just wow

@crimsondecade7420 6 месяцев назад

More proof that if the CT came with the 500 mile truck as it primised it would have been killer. Range extener is a waste of time, no one wants to give up bed space . CT needs a redesign . Improve battery capacity and change the headlight position. They can completely delete the frunk if they need to and shift everything foreward to make room for more batteries. Silverado proves why a large battery is needed .

@mattl7967 6 месяцев назад

The vast majority of people will never tow like this. Tesla would be fools to design or redesign for this purpose.

@crimsondecade7420 6 месяцев назад

@@mattl7967 Yes... They would be fools to sell a truck that did truck things.. As long as you keep using it for shopping at costco your golden...

@mattl7967 6 месяцев назад

@@crimsondecade7420⁠life is a game of trade offs. Buy the darn Silverado if you want to tow like this. You may want to do some math on daily driving costs though. Hauling all that battery around isn’t cheap.

@TxChristopher Месяц назад

@@mattl7967 so what you are saying is that most people should just get a normal car and rent a truck if they need to tow.

@bad50 Месяц назад

@@mattl7967 still 3 times more effecient than my f150 that it replaced. LOL

@msteger65 6 месяцев назад

It would really be interesting to do the same test with a travel trailer as that would be the common use case. The drag would change the game.

@nevco8774 6 месяцев назад

Charging port location in Rivian is the best of all other trucks for all around needs.

@Paul-cj1wb 6 месяцев назад

But still wrong. It needs to be on the right front, not the left front. Same with the Ford. And Farley has already said that's being moved to the correct side.

@nevco8774 6 месяцев назад

@@Paul-cj1wb If the drive through system for charging stalls, like in Norway, would be implemented, then it would not even be an issue about port location at all. For now I would prefer a Rivian port location. Hopefully the future Ford charging will be the best as you wrote.

@Paul-cj1wb 6 месяцев назад

@@nevco8774 That's the future, yes. But for now we all have to live in what exists in reality. That'll take many, many years to get there on a country as large as America, not to mention Canada. If manufacturer's want to sell vehicle's, they have to move it to one of the correct 2 locations or fall far behind. And even fail in Rivian's case. Like it or not, there are more V3 stalls/dispensers out there than ALL other stalls/dispensers combined. In fact, more than 4 times more than all other Fast DC charging ports. So unless you want to restrict your options to only 25% of the charging options out there without having to carry around an extension that can be lost or stolen, or taking up two spots, you place it on the correct location. Which for towing is ONLY the RIGHT front.

@brianflyswa 6 месяцев назад

Excellent video. Watched all of it. You really went into detail with the predictive discharge on the Chevy including TERRAIN, but will Cybertruck also do this?

@Alex-je6od 6 месяцев назад

Rivian's software is the #1 reason I got the R1T instead of the Lightning. Legacy automakers can't make good software, and they still prove it over and over.

@danchen6783 6 месяцев назад

My Lucids software is horrible.

@lkuhn65 6 месяцев назад

Jordan - if you are going skip a charger, you need to remove it from the route plan, and then the Nav will recalculate to find the next option. If you don't remove a charger from your route plan, the Nav cannot read your mind.

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Great comment ty

@nevco8774 6 месяцев назад

If someone tows occasionally all 4 trucks will do just fine. If someone tows regularly let's say once a month then it is much better the Chevrolet Silverado vs others. If someone tows across the country once in a while it is better to wait for RAM Range extended EV truck. If someone tows daily moderate loads it is better to have right now a Ford F150 HEV or a Toyota Tundra HEV. If someone tows heavy loads daily on very long distance then a Diesel HD truck will do the job for now.

@peterlaskiewicz8252 6 месяцев назад

Silverado EV. IMPRESSIVE. Big battery, fast charging. Awesome. The one to buy

@External2737 6 месяцев назад

Almost a perfect video. Please show the steering wheel logos more in the videos. I would lose track of who was driving what, which ruins the narrative.

@l10industries 6 месяцев назад

Or put the truck in the corner in editing.

@bradallen1832 4 месяца назад

I had to memorize their voices.

@KiRiTO72987 2 месяца назад

I could tell pretty easily by the dashboard and UI but yeah they really should at least put a caption in or something

@dazisgud 6 месяцев назад

What about total kwh used for the trip???

@BloodyBulwark 6 месяцев назад

Hey Guys, Looks like Jordan wasn't in Tow/Haul mode for the Lightning during the trip. Tow/Haul is usually color-coded with an off-blue/white and Balanced is the Blue shown in this video. So this video is a good gauge of how the truck will do when the software isn't "optimized". I know the FordSync is not great but this also added to the incorrect range estimates.

@bob15479 6 месяцев назад

An aerodynamic load favors more aerodynamic trucks.

@Bruhop60 Месяц назад

Very entertaining video. Kyle always takes the vehicle that will win.

@jemezname2259 6 месяцев назад

ELon should have added a 200+ kwh battery option for the Cybertruck without using up bed space. That's why I haven't bought one. Really disappointed in Tesla.

@KennyGreenPersonal 6 месяцев назад

Vast majority of Cybertruck owners won't need that much battery. You can build almost 2 Cybertrucks for the amount of batteries in 1 Silverado. Sure, some people do a lot of towing, and if that is the case, looks like Silverado is the one to get.

@bad50 Месяц назад

thats why i said hell no to my CT....absolutely loving my silverado ev though.

@wusaint Месяц назад

It's so funny that people were going out of their way to take a picture of the Cyber truck. Here in Orlando we're so desensitized because we see expensive and rare cars on a regular basis.

@WestCoastChicano 6 месяцев назад

If I were in the market for a pickup truck it would be between the Chevy and the Tesla. The Chevy because of that phenomenal range and the Tesla because of it's otherworldlyness! Excellent video as usual, you guys! 🚗🇺🇲🔌⚡

@GoFast58 6 месяцев назад

When is the silverado ev releasing?

@bradleycunningham1727 6 месяцев назад

"Imagine stopping here and calling it the Ike...glove...or something..." 😂😂😂

@alexanderkenway 6 месяцев назад

Cybertruck was really hurting his chances going to 120 KW chargers

@sparkysho-ze7nm 4 месяца назад

Learning experience

@alisagarza4209 5 месяцев назад

We have towed our OBI Dweller 15 RV with our Ford Lightning for the past 3 weekends and we totally sympathize with Jordan and the software craziness not being able to find chargers and totally inaccurate mileage. We have to use ABRP for more trustworthy predictions but we thank Out of Spec for all the EV knowledge that gives us the courage to own a Lightning and use it for towing. 😁

@KiRiTO72987 2 месяца назад

Yeah I've seen in a lot of towing videos with the F150 lighting their range estimation software just absolutely shits the bed when towing

@ThreeDogsTwoCatsAndAWife 6 месяцев назад

I love this comparison test, however, I'd oddly be more interested in day to day things like parking in a grocery store parking lot, fitting child safety seats, cleaning stuff outta the bed, the cab, hauling kids gear or my tools, getting that stuff in and out, charging daily, thermal management, and cost per mile. I'm still keeping my V8 Nissan for the "real" towing trips. EV trucks aren't made for towing. Let's be honest. The charging structure is there for regular passenger vehicles. Not long range towing.

@jysmtl 6 месяцев назад

Kyle has plenty of videos with the kind of content you are looking for. EVs are fine for towing, but not for towing distance, as you point out.