Holy hell. A 6 seater, stock, SUV beating a high performance, twice as expensive, high end sports car, after giving it the head start? I never thought I’d see the day. I mean is there another SUV on the planet that even comes close to this?
@@ZZLZ-cj8tl Nah i also appreciate the EV sound If you're gonna say it's the same as your mom's washing machine a civic is the same as a lawn mower no need to be hypocrite 🙂
This must be what it was like when automobiles could finally go faster than horses - watching a new technology out class the best example of a well-honed older technology.
The real difference: The plaid can drive home to make dinner for the kids after track day. 1000hp tuner cars go back to the shop for repairs after track day.
The other side of this coin: The lambo can pull up anywhere and heads will turn, children, men, women, elderly, just about anyone with eyes and ears will marvel at the work of art rolling passed them. It’s starting to get to the point were no one really cares how fast you are in the quarter mile in an electric car, we get it, they are fast. However, for the love of God. Please, please. Change the design team and make a car that looks the part. There should be no reason why I can literally rip your PLAID emblem off and then NO ONE will know (unless you are a huge fan boy) that it’s the not a base model. It’s made for families right? Well so are Trackhawks, Lamborghini Urus, etc. They look the part.
@@RaynorM It's interesting to see over the last couple of years petrol heads are now shifting to the excuse that suddenly performance is irrelevant in a car - because they know the internal combustion engine is ancient technology that can't keep up. I understand them wanting to desperately hold on to the last years of cylinders and pistons though as they become niche products designed for enthusiasts only.
@@Jonny94669 You’re right. Performance is an absolute. This is true. It’s performance that’s has propelled us to this new exciting point. The thrill of it and the new steps towards a future we can all enjoy in our 1000 hp EVs. I love new tech. However. It’s not always about the destination, it’s about well, you know the rest. Whoopee cushion sound gags are not what I envisioned as a performance oriented, well anything. It’s almost as if the word automobile is not in the equation. Elon Musk is trolling the auto industry and we are the test mules. It feels like it’s a “mobile accessory” like a 📱. Which is fine. For phones lol. There is no such thing as a phone enthusiast? Right? Lol Car enthusiast was more than speed to me. It’s an extension of myself (So cheesy, but always known to be true). I can’t apologize for not being interested in this product. I need to park my car and stop myself from turning my head to admire. I truly hope that I can see myself falling in love with that brand new⚡️automobile from who ever in a few years time. I also hope I can still go to a show room and see it at the very least before ordering it lol. I’ll be waiting.
@@RaynorM Well thanks for the well thought out reply. I feel like picking on the few small gags that Tesla's have just to make the customer smile, is a little disingenuous. I've seen people have tons of fun with those little features. I could hand on heart say I would absolutely take a Model S Plaid over any other car on the market - to the vast majority of regular people it's just better than everything else. Not to mention it's a beautiful car. There's a reason the Model 3 and Model Y are now the best selling vehicles in several countries - and that lead is increasing rapidly. Consumers have finally figured out that electric is just superior. Even many 'car guys' I've met are starting to admit this. They're starting to admit that pistons, cylinders, oil, bearings etc. seems a little ridiculous at this point. 90% of people don't want that anxiety of having 'mechanical sympathy' when constantly engaging their clutch during slow traffic, or not doing an oil change exactly on time. Also one the best things about buying a Tesla is NOT having to deal with dealerships. You can always go to a Tesla showroom though if you want to. I think we'll agree to disagree. Cheers!
@@ericship8383 Let's recall that the model x weight is 5k lbs vs 3k for the huracan. Some of the hp is wasted just sending the extra weight down the strip.
@@ericship8383 Nah, MX Plaid is 5 doors, 6 passengers SUV that's made for soccer mom to haul kids & all the soccer gears ... that just happened to smoke most supercars on the road, and completely destroyed your belove Trackhawk on the strip. 😎
If they come out with a Plaid model Y records are going to drop. If the darn COVID world wide shortage stops we may get the Roadster, which Elon Musk will make sure it the fastest on the planet. Like him or not, the guy has changed the world.
Today is the first day seeing the Plaid. Very impressive. It's the start of what me and my friends envisioned as kids for the future of cars. We raced high end RC cars and knew that eventually - this would happen.
Same here, 12 13 years old at the time seeing the 1/10scale electrics crush the nitro trucks. But the best part was going to the park with 2 or 3 fully charged batteries and actually getting to play with the cars. The nitro was plagued with problems and some days you'd go to the park and can't get the nitro running or breaks the first 5 minutes in. Was a great representation on a 1/10th scale lol
@@etishbite456 EV's could become big someday but it will take decades and they are just to expensive and complicated for now. Plus all cars now gas and electric have so much software running them it gives the manufacturer and the government to much control over the people.
@@silent1967 I personally believe in CNG using type 4 hydrogen tanks. CNG has 130 octane and natural gas is everywhere. We can run higher compression ratios in combination with small solid state batteries.
"They've gone to plaid!" There's an old saying, "HP sells engines, torque wins races." Electrics, with a flat torque curve through the RPM range, prove it. While the gas engine is building torque, the electric is making torque.
Actually the saying is pretty much bullshit. Torque doesn't get you anything. More torque will not let you accelerate faster. More hp will. An engine with a lot of torque at low RPM will have more hp at said low RPM than another one that has less torque at the same RPM. But torque is not power and torque does not give you better 0-60 times. The Plaid does not have that much more torque than the old Raven did. What it does have is more power, especially at higher motor RPM. This is why it is faster. Not some max torque number.
@@Ezgera Actually, torque does everything. Torque is the ability to do work, so it is what moves the vehicle, giving your launch and acceleration and combined with RPM is what gives you horsepower. There are only 2 ways to increase horsepower; make more torque at a given RPM or raise the RPM that max torque is made. Without torque, there is no horsepower. Horsepower is work done over time. Electric motors make max torque from stop through the whole RPM range, which is what makes the "power" you mention. Since their torque does not fall off, the HP will keep building, whereas a fuel engine has to build torque to max at a certain RPM and then it drops off. After the torque peak is when HP helps as it will build to its peak due to the torque still being high enough to keep HP building due to RPM until HP drops due to torque being too low to support horsepower increase. This is why engine builders are trying for a flat torque curve, the longer you hold high torque, the more HP you can make.
@@lelandlewis7207 The torque of most electric motors will fall off at higher RPM. Electric motors in cars are very rarely the perfect theoretical electric motor. This is also why the Plaid is so mich faster than the older Raven. Yes, one can argue that it keeps more torque at higher RPM. But really it is the resulting ability to stay at max power output until the end of the RPM range that is important. It is a chicken and egg issue. Of course you need torque to have hp. But hp is the unit that displays power - which equals work (f.e. acceleation) the motor can do. Torque is just the potential for the motor to do something, the potential to turn the wheel with a given force.
@@Ezgera HP is a function of torque, it is torque that does work, not HP. You seem to be missing the point, an electric motor makes full torque from stop (almost stop) and the fuel engine doesn't. Yes, torque does drop on an electric, but that means it has passed its efficiency range, but before that, it is a pretty much flat curve. The fuel engine's curve starts low, builds to a peak and then drops off. It is the flat torque curve that is the advantage, not high RPM. That is also what makes the LS engine so good, GM flattened the torque curve compared to early engines. But, it still takes RPM to generate maximum HP. Once again, HP is work done over time. The formula is Horsepower (HP) = (Torque × Speed)/5252. No torque, no HP. More torque, more HP. That is why a dyno measures torque and calculates HP. The Plaid makes massive torque and that translates to HP, but most of the world has gone to watts, which gives a more equal rating of different engines/motors. Just as an example of its torque, here is a quote, "It turns out there's a good reason why we haven't seen the Model S Plaid hit the dyno yet: the amount of instant torque it generates is so insane, operators are worried it could break the dyno." The man who wanted his Plaid tested was turned down by some dyno owners. Look at an LS6. At 2500 it makes about 380 lb-ft of torque, that is about 220 HP, at the flywheel, less at the wheels. It peaks at 470 lb-ft at 4800, and HP peaks at 550 at 6400. At about 2000, it only makes a couple of hundred lb-ft of torque and about 80 HP, the plaid is already at almost full torque. The Plaid is rated at the wheels. I couldn't find a good dyno test sheet with torque because North Americans are so stuck on HP numbers, but it makes over 800 lb-ft almost from stop. From an article: "According to the video, the peak power output registered at the wheel hubs was 1101.2 HP, while the peak torque was 905.4 lb-ft" According to Tesla and the sheet from this test, it holds power from 80 to 200 mph. The dyno and car owner only talked about the massive torque all the way from the launch, not HP. The other point is that a "flat" curve isn't a straight line, it does have a low and high, but they are much closer than a hyperbolic curve of early engines. The above LS engine goes from 380 to 450 to 380 over 3500 RPM (3000 - 6500), that is a very flat curve for an engine. A Tesla's usable torque curve starts at almost idle (stop) where it is already making hundreds of lb-ft to almost peak RPM (20,000 for the Plaid). If torque is not important, them why is a diesel engine of only 400HP able to haul tons of truck and load? Massive torque. Strokers increase torque; blowers increase torque; compression increases torque; cams change the torque curve; headers, manifolds, carburetors change torque; port and valve size changes torque; that is how they change HP. I'll rely on my 40+ years of engine building and winning races by matching the torque curve to the car and its use. Torque accelerates the vehicle, HP shows top-end ability, basically, it shows where the torque and RPM stops generating power. Once torque drops below a certain point, RPM can't generate more HP, the vehicle loses power quickly and slows down.
@@wickedhouston5538 About 205 million miles while a petrol car is every 19 million. But more like every million for these high powered petrol cars while for high powered electric cars they aren't any more dangerous then the base version.
@@ZZLZ-cj8tl I'll watch again, but I saw no Lambo stalling. What I saw was the Plaid not reacting very well. If it had, it would have beat the Lambo even worse. And if it had good friction (I'm not sure of those are stock Plaid tires), it would have crushed it. All from a car that's way cheaper and is actually practical, something you can throw two car seats in the back.
Maybe when we see one that can drive 1000 miles without any more than a 20 minute fuel-up and bathroom break. Oh yeah... and when a regular citizen can afford one.
you could easily make a EV go 1000mi. but there is no point in it, EVs are used in cities where you dont have long commutes and chaargers everywhere, plus it saves weight and repair cost, they cana llready go 350mi, its more than enough for most, and 50k isnt that much to pay and it will only get cheaper@@TheMICMusicInspirationChannel
@@Slebonson Less than 1% of all cars in the US are electric. It’ll be a very very long time before the combustion engine goes away. You can have mine. I’m driving a gas car until I die.
@@Slebonson Right up until the time your EV battery goes kaboom and it costs 10k replace or you buy another EV. There goes all your savings on gas. Have a nice day!
@@Slebonson Oh dude, a shame, you'll really never know the true "feel" of your car, you in touch with what's going on. So easy to hit a button and go - just like a video game, what a shame.
Man, that roadster is never coming out. We don't know when the cyber truck is coming out. That was supposed to be out in 2021. It not going to make it this year
I've seen a '72 Datsun (electric forklift motor) smashing corvette's, challenger's, BMW's, porches, and even police cars in the 1/4 mile. I think it's on Plasma Boy and White Zombie is the name of the car. Incredible. I'd like to see a Telsa go up against the Datsun.
a 9 second car doing 150 mph in the 1/4 is outrageous for a stock sedan/saloon. Seems like you have to have a chute and rollcage with those numbers. Probably groceries and the family pet in there too.
Never was a fan of Tesla till today. My friends wife has 2023 Tesla X plaid. She let me drive it all day. And damn I was totally blown away by this car. Truly changed my mind on electric cars
why did you have those preconceived notions in the first place anyway? Everybody always dislikes them until they get to try em out at which point they're hooked
i also find the sound great but whats the point if the engine is screaming and someone in a suv is just passing your supercar with a cup of coffe in hand
@not today well, though it must be a great thrill, I wouldn’t buy a electric car. First I like to make road trips and having to plan to recharge doesn’t fit me. Also I live in eastern Canada and during 2 months of winter it is common to get colder then minus 20 degrees Celcius here wich drastically shortens battery autonomy. I shall live with my 450hp slow Audi…. 0-60 below 4sec is very livable you know! lol
@@stimannzz With the Teslas you don't really have to plan routes as they do that for you, but yeah shorter range and longer "fill" times is an inherent downside. I have a similar performing Tesla Model 3 LR, and live north of the Arctic circle. Works just fine for me, but I don't roadtrip often.
The straight-line performance of the Teslas is extremely impressive. In the olden days real car guys used to criticize American muscle cars for being quick in a straight line, but nothing else. A *production* (unmodified) Tesla Plaid cannot even complete a single lap of most race tracks due to overheating issues. Almost any performance car would eat the Model X alive on, say, the Nurburgring. That's not to take anything away from the awesome short-term acceleration these EVs can do, but they aren't competitive against a Lamborghini in the environment that those cars are built for (i.e., road circuit racing, not drag racing).
@@raymondrizzo284 What about it? The fact they used roll-out to get that sub 2 second time? Or something to do with the fact that these EVs cannot run at WOT (wide open throttle) for more than a couple minutes, and hence are *only* able to compete in drag races or very short circuit races?
@not today My husband said he'd buy one for me and our son. So I'm just waiting for tesla to come out with it now haha. I saw the plaid and don't want it. We want the roadster for fun rides
@not today Yeah that will be great. Still waiting patiently. My husband made a lot of money with tesla stocks with that money he is going to buy two. He says the stock is at a good point to buy right now.
Guys the end-of-combustion super or sport car engines is near. With an EV lambo, Ferrari, Corvette, and more coming soon, the writing is on the wall. A sad time indeed. An EV will never replace the roar and feel of a naturally aspirated engine. We are witnessing and experiencing the final days.
The speed and loudness of gas super cars are cool but I probably would trade it in for the technology of the Tesla. Cause I like tinkering with the features of any new gadgets I tend to get.
What's more funny is my 2015 Chevrolet Silverado LTZ 5.3L can go further on one tank of 87 octane than either of these guys can go without a refill and it was paid for in three years with no mechanical issues.
S plaid has over 600 miles of range, so you’ll be hitting the gas station 3 times refueling at $130 a pop, while the Tesla owner has already charged 100 percent overnight at a cost of $9 in electricity. Oh wait it’s $0 because a lot of Tesla owners have solar panels.
@@kvop32984 lmfao, solar doesn't generate that much energy. Have you seen how much it costs to even get them installed, not to mention its inconsistent , on some days the clouds block the ir radiation so less energy is absorbed, for solar energy to actually be worth it several conditions have to be met so...
People forget this is a huge marketing technique for Tesla. For the price there's nothing that can beat it in a straight line but there are many cars and SUVs at that price range that would be more of a pleasure to own, such as a Porsche Cayenne Turbo/Turbo GT or an Audi RSQ8.
@@stat2120wizz it's all about personal preference. If you love Tesla's then go for it haha. Never said it's a bad car but there are so many gas cars that I think would be more enjoyable to own.
@@ericship8383 Says the person who has no idea of the actual specs of any car. 1200 HP? Careful, your ignorance is showing 🤣 Please send us the link of the Channel that has 1001 Trackhawk timeslips without any issues. Everyone knows where to find a Tesla that easily did that. Now with the Plaid, 1315 Tesla timeslips and still going strong. No failures, no problems, no broken halfshafts!
0.001% of exotic "supercars" ever see a race track. Mostly they cruise city centers at 20mph, trying to look cool to 13 year old boys. Those days are over now the family shopper can roast them over 1/4 mile. Embarrassing.
@@gohumberto Yes, but no-one ever pulled an attractive woman with "I drive a Tesla". That's not true of Lambos. This is because Teslas are gadget-filled, badly made, unreliable pieces of junk that handle like a drunken hippopotamus. Every person I know who has bought one has got rid of it.
@@mrdutch484 I'm comparing 2 cars on their performance on the road, which is where they were designed to go. The Jeep's off-road performance is as irrelevant as you are. As for a shitty Jeep Wrangler, put it against a Land Rover Discovery and watch the Discovery defaecate all over the Jeep.
You folks have to understand something. As a Tesla owner it will beat anything in the 1/4 mile but in a longer distance race (on a race track ) it has only one top speed therefore on a race track the Huracan would win at speeds of 320 km/h (199 mph).
Both have a countless list of regulations tied to them making this not a statistically relevant comparison. The Lambo has 100 plus years of international, federal, and state performance Nannie’s designed into it. A more representative example of limitless possibilities of a combustion engine would be a top fuel dragster which I believe do 330 MPH in 3.5 seconds or something like that.
Nitromethane right now is over $40 per gallon, and you can't be near the exhaust without gagging and your eyes watering. And the engines run open headers and put out 150 decibels. Let's not forget that. 🤣
Yes, a billion dollar rocket could probably smoke a Tesla too. The important part here is that you CANT open up your phone and order a "top fuel dragster" in under 5 mins and have it delivered within two weeks. Accessibility is the beauty
Seeing more and more Tesla's on the road these days. Bought ours in 2018 and we were the only ones in the neighborhood. Now you can't drive 2 blocks without coming across one. Must be dozens of them just in our neighborhood now. With our 48 solar panels powering the primary home and the Tesla it's great to not pay expensive utility bills and basically having a full charge/tank every morning. Can't see ever going back to gas powered cars. When I first picked up the Tesla had 4 family members in it with me and some guy in a mustang was revving his engine at a light next to me (totally clueless about EV's). Told everyone to hold on for a bit. Light turned green and in less than 2 blocks I was going 111mph and the mustang was about a block behind. Quickly slowed down to the speed limit as was surprised by just how quickly it accelerates.
People are tired of the high gas prices and Tesla is the only electric car with a really good battery. All my friend's have Tesla's now. I can't afford one but thinking about getting a used one once used car prices go down.
On their own...the Lambo makes a glorious sound, compared to a boring non sounding electric car. Imagine if your vacuum cleaner sounded like a Lambo...🤔
How many races would the lambo do before it needs a tune up and repairs? Becuase this Tesla can do this everyday for several years in a row before needing maintenance. The only thing I could see needing maintenance on the Tesla is the brakes and the tires.
Impressive. I see many drag races won by the Tesla and its a no brainer, but what about a real race track with corners, off camber turns and elevation changes? Point and Squirt is only one aspect of a cars performance. I can certainly respect the performance of straight line speed and quickness of an electric vehicle but I still prefer the engagement and that “umami” experience the internal combustion engine delivers. I guess deep down it’s not all about the speed after all, it’s always been the about the sensation, sights, sounds and smells…”the experience.” The electric vehicle eliminates most of what I enjoy about the automobile. Hmmmm.
Elon Musk's Tesla is such an innovative American Muscle car that we somehow forget it's a muscle car! Have you seen how cool this SUV is?? with gull wing doors no less
Each 1/4 mile and return to start area takes about 3-4% of the battery. So assuming you want to leave a chunk of battery for contingency and to make it comfortably to a fast charger on the way home (or straight home), you can do about 20 runs. Performance will drop off as bettery gets under 75% or so, but will still be beating most other cars. That's a lot more runs than you'd usually want to do in a session anyway and an ICE car would have a lot of transmission/drivetrain wear from that number of runs, which you don't get in a BEV.
Thank you for actually answering the guy's question because I wondered how much juice it would use to race in the Tesla as well. Everyone else just replies with "well how many for the Lambo" instead of just answering the question.@@patmanrick
My son has the Tesla SUV and I'll tell you. When he punches it, it sucks you back into the seat. It is freaking fast. Now it's called an SUV but there's no ground clearance and I damn sure wouldn't take it off road. But it is fast
Everyone wants to mock and laugh at EV powered vehicles. SMH. Folks…the progression of technology is INEVITABLE, meaning you CANNOT stop it. If we could we would still be living in a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. People probably said the same thing about the automobile when it came around over 100 years ago because the horse had been tried and true for 100s of years. Look what happened! So bury your head in the sand and say they won’t replace gas powered cars. Your great grandfather probably said the same thing to Karl Benz and later to Henry Ford when he made it easier to own.
I think, while this is interesting... Can it really compete when it comes to Endurance? How long can it go that fast? How comfortable is it to go that fast *with those aerodynamics*?
@@asdf23020202ll That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that at those speeds, a Lamborghini, or a Bugatti, or something designed with those speeds in mind are going to be a more comfortable, and controllable experience. How is it inside the Tesla at those speeds? It's not made aerodynamically to maintain those sorts of speeds. Is it unstable? Unpredictable? Who knows.
From what i understand, the Tesla needs a charge after 3 races. It may be faster, but battery power just isnt enough to compete with duration of power. What im saying is you can go twice as far with 1/30 the time. You can take the lambo for a 250 mile road trip, stop for 5 minutes to fill the tank and go another 250 miles while the Tesla, even with high speed charging still takes a full hour to charge.
@@SebastianLong Quick question, when is the last time you drove 250 miles, stopped five minutes to refuel, then immediately drove another 250 miles? Exactly, you never have! Nobody does that! That would be like driving from New York City to Washington DC, filling up, then immediately driving from DC to North Carolina. You're going to stop and rest. Someone will need to use the bathroom. Someone will need to eat. Someone will need to stretch their legs. So yes, lovely, we all know gas cars refuel in a few minutes and can be on their way. But for very long distances, the bottleneck isn't the charge time for the car, it's the charge time for the human!
@@aquicklad972 Let's be honest: you've never been inside a Model X plaid, a Lambo of any kind nor a Bugatti, so you have absolutely no clue which would be more comfortable. Neither have I. With that said, I'd argue that a Lambo isn't designed for comfort or practicality. It's designed for speed and staying clamped to the ground through turns. You're certainly not throwing 5 people in a Lambo and going anywhere! You can fit 2 people and maybe a toothbrush, that's it! And you're in a reclined position. I'm not sure how on earth that's supposed to be more comfortable than the roomy experience of an SUV. The Tesla Model X Plaid is a practical, family SUV that just so happens to be able to beat a Lambo at a fraction of the cost. You may not like that, but that's just reality.
I'm 86 years old and had an XK-140 an an E-Type Jaguar. So if you are spending many hundreds of thousands of dollars, and you bring the car to the track, you should expect something. Otherwise, why be there? Time for my nap.
Sorry I have to disagree with Electric ⚡️ Motorsports being a big hit with the public. People pay with their hard earned money for the Visceral experience of a race Sounds/Smells etc etc. EV’S are quick no doubt but an all electric drag race event or Indy/F1 event is just not going to work. Just my humble opinion.
Driving my model X, sometimes I get the occasional driver thinking they could show me off. I don't bite to their taunts to race because I already know how it will end for them, and it won't be pretty.
