Actually your vid is the first that I’ve seen showing that the vision is better…. it shows the pillars. Lack of a cm distance doesn’t seem important to me if the colours are consistent with distance. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks. I agree with your comment but I think since we have grown and got used to USS with distance, there’s a much bigger change curve to adoption. Also acknowledging it isn’t perfect!
@@ZappedAU My first four decades of driving I had to use just pure vision to estimate distance. It’s only the last decade that I have had sensors on my car. I assume that in time the AI will be better at it than I am. So I won’t miss this recent introduction of ultrasonic measurements. 👍🏼😁
I know exactly what you mean. Whilst I haven’t driven as long as you, my first car had no cameras too! Learning to drive old school with eyes only has definitely gone out the window!
The inherent problem is it should use both. The USS is perfectly accurate for tight spaces and also shows when you're close to other cars NOT reversing etc.. TV doesn't seem to do that, and it's not great going in a tight garage. I'm using Summon every day in and out of a tight garage with USS and it works so well.
@@ZappedAU I did get EAP :D Loving it but yes, definitely favouring USS over TV right now. I'm still gonna give TV a week or so to do my garage reversing / some parking and really monitor the sides, but I just appreciate having the sensors and not some Rorschach blob test haha
@@ZappedAU Yep, agreed, mate. I tried Tesla Vision and switched back to USS within a few minutes. Why swap something that works for something that doesn't work?
I see your point. The only bit I felt vision worked better in my video was the fact that it identified a pillar whereas the sensors didn’t really pick it up as well. Having said that… pillars are pretty big so I’m pretty sure 99% of people would see it. I’m sticking by my words to test vision for about a month and will report back!
Thanks for the test. One thing difficult to test is the reliability after years. Full vision parking no one has ever done before. Are those cameras still providing the required image quality for parking assistance after years in a real world? No one would know today.But ultrasonic sensors have been tested more than a decade. And it is relatively cheap to get it fixed and replaced. Keep in mind, if the reliability of parking assistance is a deal breaker for you, probably it’s not a wise decision to buy a Tesla today as this thing is still in experiment phase, to be honest.
Experiment or not; it was (based on factual data) the most popular selling vehicle (Model Y specifically) in 2023. I think at this point in time, I still prefer the Ultrasonic sensors but I have not switched back yet!
@@ZappedAU Just like laying off the entire supercharger team in one day. So many controversial decisions made by one man overnight. Yes, 2023 best selling with ultrasonic sensors, indicate stalks and growing supercharger network. After all these things gone, will it still be the best selling in 2024? Have a look at their inventory today.
Nice test. I was pretty skeptical about the vision park assist but it's actually a lot better than I expected. It still seems like it needs a bit of work when it comes to tighter spaces as it's a bit too conservative but in general it seems pretty good.
My argument is you always have your eyes anyway. The vision system seems superior at this point. Carparks are designed for cars without vision systems or parking sensors so you should be able to park fine without it. Always remember GOAL (Get Out And Look) if you can't judge the distance from the drivers seat.
@@DerekDavis213 Ultrasonic sensors are far from perfect. Very easy to reverse into a pole between two sensors or drive over a low garden bed. They have a much narrower beams than you may expect, and are only accurate at very close distances.
Fair point but in tight spaces, the sensors do work very well. Ultimately both have a use case. I do hope that Tesla doesn’t just disable the USS though.
@@ipullstuffapart And then there's the 8 Tesla Vision cameras, combined with AI and Neural Networks. And that system is so dumb, it will drive right thru a gate, right over a ladder in the road, and right over potholes and broken glass in the road. And it cannot read signs: DO NOT ENTER, ROAD CLOSED, etc. Tesla FSD is a simple minded Level 2 assistant, that is *years* *away* from Full Autonomy.
You don't need a front camera. The problem why it wasn't seen is because the driver changed the setting from USS to Vision. If he drove in directly with Tesla Vision he would of course see it because the data is evaluated like when a person drives and sees something in front. Removing USS was the right decision; in FSD all cars drive without USS when deciding how to drive. The point of Tesla Vision is that a person who is driving only sees what he sees; he doesn't need ultrasonic sensors to estimate distances. In the long term, Tesla Vision will be better than the mature technology of USS.
I got the USS for a reason. I don’t fully trust TV and am hoping to get a blended view. If not I’m sticking to USS, it’s robust and not gimmicky. Remember, it takes one mistake to damage the car or someone else’s car. My question to Tesla is why release something that is not a 100% reliable.
_why release something that is not a 100% reliable_ Tesla does everything to *cut* *costs* : no dashboard, just an iPad screen Ultrasonic sensors removed Turn Signal Stalk removed fast mediocre paint job, to save time
I just parked in my garage with TV turned on. I was very surprised to find that it doesn’t display distances to solid structures unlike USS. Pathetic! I’ve now turned it off and gone back to the USS. Very disappointed!
