Testing A DIY BOOMLESS & SELF TACKING Staysail Setup | Sailboat Story 240

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Our sailboat came with a staysail that included a boom. Our preference though, is to keep our foredeck space clear and open so when we headed out to go sailing, we left the boom behind. To make our staysail work "boomless", we rig a temporary sheeting system, go for a test sail, and observe how well the sail behaves. We discover that the staysail works just fine without the boom. Of course, the boat would sail marginally better if the boom were in place, but we're just fine with a slight performance decrease in exchange for maintaining our open deck space. Then there's the added benefit of removing the possibility of being clobbered by a swinging boom on the foredeck. For us, running our staysail boomless and self-tacking is the right move, and we're very pleased with how well the boat sails with the staysail, especially when sailing to windward.
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@gilregan2195 Год назад

They are not ropes they are lines! The only rope on a sailing vessel is a bell rope. Get with it!

@Sailboatstory Год назад

Isn't it interesting how the boat just sails where we point her despite the terminology used? It's almost like it doesn't matter at all. Weird, huh?

@tigersharkzh Год назад

When you tie a rope to your boat to attach a block then it's just a rope, not a line, not a halyard, just a rope and when you go to a chandlery to buy the stuff then you'll find it in the ropes section.

@smfobes Год назад

@@Sailboatstoryagree! Nothing like sitting at home watching another person sail and feeling the need to criticize wording…call it what you want and enjoy your sail!

@shreksswamp9001 Год назад

Oh my goodness, terminology purity. Well, you might not want to come to Aus. For example, in a boat it is called a Head or Heads, depending on where you come from. Some people called it a bathroom or toilet. Here in Aus, we call it a dunny. Don't make no difference where it is, it's still a dunny. Or, it's a thunder box. Everyone knows what a dunny or thunder box is. In other countries they call a dunny a bathroom. You don't bathe in a bloody dunny for crying out loud. Yuk, that is filthy, but yet, here we are with good ol terminology again, getting in the way. And yep, the boat doesn't give a toss what is tied to the sails. Be they lines or ropes, it will still go forward when there's wind and go nowhere when there's no wind. Great video Guys, I always enjoy watching them, most especially the cartoon. That was a tale on the high seas of horrifying proportions, with a great outcome. Good job Molly!

@svglorious Год назад

@@Sailboatstory Next you’ll be hearing from the “safety experts” about tethers, harnesse, lifelines, pfd’s, plb’s and whatever…

@montanadan2524 Год назад

😊The friggin staysail boom is always in my way, you did right.

@Sailboatstory Год назад

As well as the boat sails without the boom, we gladly accept any slight performance penalty in exchange for the added safety and ease of use.

@svglorious Год назад

Got rid of my boom on my 32…added tracks and blocks and the sail really is easier to shape now.

@magdakaniewski Год назад

I had a similar set up on my Vancouver 42. Got rid of the boom.

@svglorious Год назад

@@Sailboatstory I’ve also attached a block off of the clew of the staysail and this allows it to kinda self tend back an forth with the port and starboard sheets tied off and then just tension the pressure side for shape in conjunction with your car positioning on the track.

@MicBruise Год назад

One alternative that you might consider for your loose-footed self-tacking staysail is to put a padeye on the centerline, just forward of the mast. Tie or clip the bitter end of the sheet into the padeye. The sheet runs from the padeye to a block shackled to the clew of the staysail, then back down through a turning block also attached to the padeye, and then out to a second turning block that is outboard and then back to your winch. That gives you the same 2-to-1 sheeting advantage, but allows you to sheet the staysail closer to the centerline. As you said, the main use of your staysail is when you are on the wind, so I would not worry a lot about the leech twist that rig would probably produce when off the wind. You could leave the sheet fully rigged and just unshackle the clew of the staysail when you bring it down. Just an idea. Love your channel, and the high production values of all your videos.

@gunnarlaland 14 дней назад

I will try something similar with my Genoa. I want a self tacking genoa. Thanks for good inspiration.

@sailingonabudget Год назад

Ben, if the foot of the sail does not extend beyond the mast then a very good way to rig is to run the tack to a block at the base of the mast. It works similar to a loose footed main then and allows you to get as close to the wind as possible. It's like having the boom without actually having the boom, if ya get me.

@captvdub330 Год назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="334">5:34</a> to <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="340">5:40</a> makes us forget all about staysails for six seconds! Brilliant view generating shot!

@jnicholsegn4n1 Год назад

well I thought you might've forgotten about the hurricane season. Then what you know you guys are anchored off our 3 1/2 to our condominium complex in our fair city. We watched and watched but never did see you all then the other morning you were gone. So were glad your back safe for another season. Us old folks really look forward to your videos.

@gregoryfranklin5108 Год назад

I get to learn something new every time you post a video . Thank you . I think "Sails" are just elegant.

@oceansquatch1481 Год назад

Just removed my staysail boom on my 32. Read Don Street’s The Ocean Sailing Yacht vol 2. He’s not too fond of them either. I’m not sure how mine will end up but as you, I’m testing. Thanks for the video.

@bee_dee_eye Год назад

Hope Molly is feeling better.

@SirCharles12357 Год назад

Macyver strikes again, good job!

@Garryck-1 Год назад

Nice job on the staysail.. I look forward to seeing how the more permanent arrangement works. (On a purely personal aesthetic note, it always amuses me when people with boats festooned with paddle-boards and fuel drums on the lifelines - sometimes even bicycles! - talk about not wanting to clutter up the foredeck.. 🤣🤣😜 )

@Sailboatstory Год назад

I do see the irony in that statement. The better way to say it would be that we’d like to avoid cluttering up the foredeck any further than it already is with a 14ft waist-high barricade running down the middle. “Festooned” made me giggle. 😆

@Garryck-1 Год назад

@@Sailboatstory - *“Festooned” made me giggle.* My work here is done!

@proudtexan5513 Год назад

That stay sail is really, really, nice and efficient !! Great Job!!

@gregpeterson6141 Год назад

Just to add my 2 cents. I got rid of the boom added tracks on the cabin top with little 20 winches. I also changed to roller furling on the staysail and already had it on the Jib. I fly a yankee high up on the jib and it works really well I start with the staysail and main and add the yankee when needed. Also about your monitor again just my experience I always wanted one and bought a used one at a boat swap meet. Eventually took it to scanmar to get it rebuilt ended up turning the old one in for a new one as the price to rebuild vs new wasn't that much. I found them really good to work with and am enjoying getting used to the monitor. Thanks again for the great videos really entertaining and fun to watch. Greg SV Prion

@cawtrucking Год назад

Toast? I would want something stronger than toast after a near dismasting and being saved by a sea goddess.

@sailingabroad6528 Год назад

You inspired me to cruise full time watched you from day one. I hope I cross paths with you and the legendary Wicked Salty sometime in the future. Stay safe and stay salty. May the winds always be in your favor.

@Sailboatstory Год назад

Thanks very much. Wicked Salty will always be the channel that inspired us the most.

@bkdwar5138 Год назад

What a beautiful boat and family u have!!!!!!! Love the video's, thank you!!!!!!!!

@jenniferdavis8088 Год назад

Put some meat tenderizer on the jelly fish sting it will help!

@thomaschandler7820 Год назад

Great show as always.

@Sailboatstory Год назад

Thanks very much, Sir.

@jasongrinnell1986 Год назад

Molly is so cool.

@jamieminton172 Год назад

That Stay looks to be in fine shape. Less is best where the boom goes. It might be handy on a down wind run though. Not to be a nervous Nancy, but I believe I would add some reinforcement to those cringles. The clew and reefing points are gonna take some hits. The head wouldn't be a bad Idea either. Just me. 🙃

@kscharky8951 Год назад

Great job! Love that staysail! I’ve done with boom and without. And prefer without now

@willparrish7646 Год назад

Molly is remembering doggie paddle lol 😆

@briansaid1730 Год назад

Put a tail block on both padeyes. Run sheets thru both and bend each onto the stays'l clew. This way u will have some control of sail shape & still pretty easy to tack. Ultimately u need a traveler track mounted aft of normal if u want to stay "boomless"...

@Sailboatstory Год назад

We considered exactly that setup before going with this simpler, single sheet, self tacking set up. I’m glad we did as we’re quite happy with it. There’s certainly no need for a traveler to stay boomless as we’ve already demonstrated, but that would allow for more control. We’re happy with the increased performance, reduced heal, and simplicity that we’ve gained with our current set up.

@briansaid1730 Год назад

Of course ur happy with your own "far from perfect" idea. I'm suggesting a well proven way to achieve preferred sail shape control (including barber-hauling). And a method that still allows quick conversion to ur primitive "short-term" self-tacking rig in the rare occasion of facing headwinds in a narrows.....

@Sailboatstory Год назад

What we’ve already done is barber haul using our current set up. We simply set the sail, and pop on a barber haul for further adjustment, when needed, and we let that run for longer passages. Simple stuff. No set up is perfect and it’s always a compromise one way or another. What we have works well for us.

@briansaid1730 Год назад

That sounds good for ur set-up.

@frankrice5364 Год назад

Omeomy my did the jelly fish live

@gregoryfranklin5108 Год назад

Who peed on her arm for the jelly fish sting ? 😅😢😂❤

@bradgriffin1665 Год назад

Sea Nettle Jellyfish?

@crusadergames3489 11 месяцев назад

What is the not stick surface you have on deck. You can see it really good when you reach down. around the 3min mark. Almost looks rubber.

@Sailboatstory 11 месяцев назад

It's molded into the fiberglass.

@kenlynch6332 Год назад

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@pearl-pf6xz Год назад

Sounds like sea nettle was the culprit ol mate...ouch.

@Phantom-nn6uq 7 месяцев назад

Any thoughts to whether or not you are have running backstays to counter the pull on the mast at the point of your inner stay? @<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="427">7:07</a> it appears like you do have running backstays attached at your second spreader.

@Sailboatstory 7 месяцев назад

We have running backstays and use them regularly. They're not always necessary, but should be used as appropriate depending on conditions.