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Testing the ObXidian nozzle and new E3D Revo developments 

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@extectic
@extectic Год назад
I've been using the Revo for months to print a lot of stuff, including a bunch of Gridfinity boxes, and it's been completely drama free. Been swapping between sizes, and just pre-ordered ObXidian as well so I can run abrasives and anything else I want through. It's a great system that makes nozzle changes sane. Having to muck around with tools and with the nozzle at temp is stone age stuff, and this also eliminates the possibility of leaks at the heat break. Currently just running on a MK3, but any printer I get in the future needs to be Revo compatible.
@nightlurker
@nightlurker Год назад
I have used the Revo on a Mk3S for the last week, approx 150 hours of print time, and I am extremely happy with it so far. I have just pre-ordered the ObXidian nozzle, as like Michael I also want to fit and forget my nozzle regardless of the filament I am using. After replacing my V6 nozzles about every 6 weeks or so (my printer is almost constantly on the go), hopefully these will last a bit longer than the nozzle X from E3D.
@technicallyreal
@technicallyreal Год назад
My Revo just arrived today and I'm super excited to get an ObXidian nozzle. Leaks and buildup on my current nozzles are what motivated me to go with Revo. If the ObXidian works like brass and picks up even less filament, then I'll be in heaven.
@TheJacklwilliams
@TheJacklwilliams Год назад
Some people were just born to teach. Michael, each and every time I walk away more knowledgeable from your work. Thank you!
@smolzillamakes
@smolzillamakes Год назад
I'm gonna wait for all the preorders to go through so that those who ordered can work through any potential QC and then order one from an American reseller so I don't have to wait 5 months for mine to come in
@TheWrongButton
@TheWrongButton Год назад
keep in mind that if you're ordering from a reseller that they would have ordered that stock from e3d far in advance, so even though you wait for a first batch of direct e3d orders to happen you might be purchasing an nozzle from the exact same production batch from the local reseller
@brettvitaz9101
@brettvitaz9101 Год назад
Good for you .. ?
@AttentionDeficitHobbyDisorder
I have been tinkering with my E3V2 again after not touching it for a while, and decided to finally make the switch to DD. Came across this vid while researching some extruders, and I'm glad I did, because I've been struggling with what direction to go, and whether to change my hotend as well, and now I've decided to jump in with both feet and order up the H2 Revo. Seems like it ticks all the boxes for what I want! I really appreciate the way you conduct all of your reviews and vids. Tons of info, and transparency. You just saved me from going down a rabbit hole of spending too much on multiple different setups to tinker with to try and find the right one.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Год назад
Pretty impressive indeed! Thanks, Michael! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@MelSavageKiller
@MelSavageKiller Год назад
Been running a Revo on my Mk3S+ for a few moths now and i love it, i went from never changing nozzles to switching out all the the time now depending on what i am printing. Been waiting on the new ObXidian nozzles so i can try printing with some new filaments, as it is so quick i can see me still using my brass ones for everyday pla prints and then switching them out when i print with anything abrasive.
@olafb.2929
@olafb.2929 Год назад
Thanks for the great comparison. The Revo ObXidian seems a really good addition!
@TableTopBiker
@TableTopBiker Год назад
Perfect timing. I just ordered the H2 variant.
@dirtmcgirt3445
@dirtmcgirt3445 Год назад
I've had a Hemera XS Revo for a few weeks now. I love it so far, about to pre-order the Obxidian as well. I've been getting into glow filaments (Sainsmart PETG & TPU), and while they print quite well quality wise, I can feel the grit on the filament and feel confident it's going to destroy the brass rather rapidly.
@deandavies1462
@deandavies1462 Год назад
I converted my anycubic Vyper first to E3D V6 volcano with a hardened steel nozzle which was a great swap for the original fake PTFE lined volcano hotend that came on the machine. With a redesign of the hotend assembely to accomedate the longer legnth of the new V6 volcano mounting to the machines strain guage. I then made the jump to the REVO 6 about a month ago and im very happy with the swap, even though it ended up as another redesign of the hotend mounting assembely to work with the anycubic Vyper strain guage mounting system. This really hinders hotend choice as mounting requires 2 vertical mounting screws through the top of the strain guage into the hotend which is not ideal with the REVO V6 but was solved within our vyper facebook community. The only problem I had was not being able to swap out to use hardened nozzles to print abrasive fillaments, I missed the ability to use all my fillamens, bur now have ordered the 0.4 & 0.6 obXidian nozzles. Now its sitting and waiting for the mid november deilvery date to roll round.
@FeveredMind
@FeveredMind Год назад
Another great video. I am currently in the process of getting REVO set up on my CR-10V2. I'm excited about trying the obxidian nozzles. Might have to ask for one for Christmas.
@TotoGuy-Original
@TotoGuy-Original Год назад
i just ordered the BIQU H2 V2S REVO looking forward to it! i felt it had better features than E3D's own model, especially that its smaller and it has more mounting options. im looking forward to taking it apart as soon as i get it
@Twxii
@Twxii Год назад
I switched to a Revo Voron just last week on my Voron V0.1, I previously had a Phaetus Dragon and when changing nozzles it would twist the whole hotend slightly and touch the hotend fan. The Revo Voron form factor makes a lot of sense on a small machine. Only have a 0.4mm nozzle currently but will be looking to get at least a 0.25 and 0.6. The Dragon in my 2.4 is still easy enough to change nozzles.
@nicholaskarassavas5668
@nicholaskarassavas5668 Год назад
The cost & lack of revo nozzel availability has made my NG micro Swiss revo a bitter sweet purchase, if these cost of nozzels and lack of availability continues and the lack of the industry to copy or sell alternatives continue, it deserves to die out no matter how good,
@shuflie
@shuflie Год назад
I've been through a few editions of the revo beta nozzles and until yesterday was sticking with the original beta which was just the heater core as I was using a standard hardened steel nozzle to print Prusament CF PC. Decided to switch over to the final beta (basically the revo micro with two nozzles without the coloured rings) in preparation for the Obsidian coming whenever they sort out their production issues and just run it on regular Prusament PC and standard filaments in the meantime.
@TheButchersbLock
@TheButchersbLock Год назад
I just got a Biqu H2 and just after it arrived I saw the revo version, I would have probably gone for that as it wasn’t that much more expensive. I probably will look for a revo system for my other printer in the future, it seems a pretty cool concept. Great video as alway sir 👍🇦🇺😊
@sammniamii
@sammniamii Год назад
I just found out about these last night... nice. 🙂
@caramelzappa
@caramelzappa Год назад
I've been mostly happy with the revo but flow has been the limiting factor. I'm glad they finally have abrasives covered, but I would love to have a revo volcano option. I would happily buy a new heater and nozzles if high flow was an option, because I love the integrated heatbreak and toolless nozzle changes. The revo as is is also a tough sell financially when similar hotends like the Rapido can get more flow with more nozzle options and still have one handed (but not toolless) nozzle changes.
@0x80O0oOverfl0w
@0x80O0oOverfl0w Год назад
I like the Revo system so far, but it wasn't the smoothest upgrade. First, the latest Prusa Mk3 firmware 3.12.2 doesn't work with the Revo. It fails during the PID calibration. This is a known issue, but it took digging through Prusa forums to figure out why PID cal kept failing. I ended up doing a complete xyz re-cal on my Mk3S after upgrading to the Revo as well. I didn't realize that was going to wipe all my existing z offsets for my different plates, so I had a really challenging time getting everything dialed back in. I read on the Prusa website that the first layer calibration routine does not work with the Revo. I can confirm I had terrible results, every first layer calibration look very under extruded, so I thought it was interesting to see you had good luck with it on your mini.
@rbrianlindahl5499
@rbrianlindahl5499 Год назад
I've had a Revo 6 installed on my Ender 3 for a few months. Print quality has been good, in general. Looking forward to the Obxidian nozzles so I can go back to carbon fiber once in a while.
@trugbilddrachen
@trugbilddrachen Год назад
I have the h2 Revo and love it. Results have been on par or better then my ddx v3 I had on the machine before. While more money, I like the easy of taking out the nozzle for clogs which I did cause from my z being too low. Obsidian nozzle is not on my radar at this time, however as I can leave it in for pla or abrasive materials I may look into it.
@Ben-qh1ku
@Ben-qh1ku Год назад
This REVO system is awesome I have two printer already with them and I order a Prusa mini + that I goi g to upgrade too.
@NMdesertracer
@NMdesertracer Год назад
Revos a game changer for me! 👍
@OutwardThinker
@OutwardThinker Год назад
Happy they have a harden nozzle now. Still unsure if I want to make the switch though. If they ever have a generic threaded that I can install my own nozzles, I would immediately sign up for the prerelease
@V843v3r
@V843v3r Год назад
there is, it's called a V6
@midweekmouse5055
@midweekmouse5055 Год назад
My biqu revo arrived 2 weeks ago and it’s been ok so far but I’ve been having some issues with my firmware so I haven’t given it a full test also the clicking on other v2 models is still not fixed
@ThomasS17
@ThomasS17 Год назад
Is there any news on the high flow version of the Revo?
@rampradhan9343
@rampradhan9343 Год назад
Sir please angel grinder to vacuum cleaner 3d print project idea video... honestly you are the 👍👍👍
@MrSvorx7
@MrSvorx7 Год назад
LOVE THE MCM SHIRT! Lol ;)
@AudreyRobinel
@AudreyRobinel Год назад
I have not yet used the revo, i was waiting for the obxidian, rather than change later, i figured i could just get everything at once. I did not expect it to take that much time however. Also, now that i have seen tom's video on 0.6 nozzles + arachnea, i wonder if i need a revo alltogether... perhaps just a V6 obxidian nozzle will suffice.
@urjnlegend
@urjnlegend Год назад
If you're going to stay v6, might as well get the diamond nozzle
@AudreyRobinel
@AudreyRobinel Год назад
@@urjnlegend diamond nozzle is 100$...
@urjnlegend
@urjnlegend Год назад
@@AudreyRobinel yeah, but you won't have to change it again, and it prints like brass
@AudreyRobinel
@AudreyRobinel Год назад
@@urjnlegend obxidian is supposed to have comparable durability, according to e3d, for less than a third of the price. I didn't buy the ruby nozzle back then for the same reason as the diamond one : way too expensive for marginal gain. You say i won't have to change it again. And what if i do? what if something gets jammed into the nozzle and i can't remove it? What if i realize that i want 0.6? If no other solution existed, i may consider it. But other solutions exist. And way cheaper.
@JACKxELITE
@JACKxELITE Год назад
Nice MCM top 👌
@NathanielHatley
@NathanielHatley Год назад
I have a version 1 H2 and will likely upgrade to a Revo H2 at some point in the future after my V1 wears out. I'm curious if they're planning on introducing the Bondtech CHT style nozzles for the Revo form factor.
@ThorstenSchmitz-dq9os
@ThorstenSchmitz-dq9os Год назад
Very interesting, thanks for the review. Since you have both, how would you say the H2 compares to the V6+BMG version? I'm considering the upgrade and have a BMG extruder, but I'm not sure because e.g. the H2 seems very limited regarding fan ducts.
@beebees3d
@beebees3d Год назад
Have 3 v0.1’s running E3D revo vorons no complaints
@Da-Real-Gigachad
@Da-Real-Gigachad Год назад
Can you do a voron 2.4 r2 build and use the revo?
@sgtkabukiman9411
@sgtkabukiman9411 Год назад
7:20 You could have just used the PTFE cutter sitting on the table. ;-)
@cemmy410
@cemmy410 Год назад
3:35 woah! What is that color LCD mod for the i3? Is there a video about it that I missed?
@zoltansipos5125
@zoltansipos5125 Год назад
I have the V2S but I steel need to install it but still wait for some upgrade parts would be interesting to see how well it can print flexible filament since the previous H2 had limitations on this regard
@Newb00tgoofin
@Newb00tgoofin Год назад
prints TPU great just stay low like 40-50mms. I have the V2S Revo on my Ender 6 and it is a beast!
@user-mz6qu3hz6m
@user-mz6qu3hz6m Год назад
You likely don't need to manually set the PID values on the Prusa Mini. The Mini firmware is quite a bit smarter with temperature management than plain Marlin. Just test it and see.
@bridgetclinch3678
@bridgetclinch3678 Год назад
A little frustrating, I already have hardened steel V6 nozzles in 0.4 & 0.6 on two printers, my mini is still stock + bondtech & capricorn, it would benefit from klipper more than a revo, the power plug is all that is holding me back on that one.
@MastahFR
@MastahFR Год назад
Using revo voron and just waiting for high flow.
@fritzwalter1112
@fritzwalter1112 Год назад
Wait. One brass nozzle costs 18.25p and the new one costs 40p. Lokking at the advertisement on their website, it seems like the new noozle should last waaay longer than the brass one while having no downsides except being twice as expensive. So always buy a obsidian?
@rmanami
@rmanami Год назад
If E3D's claims are to be believed and you dont mind paying more, yes. Main thing is that you prolly dont need the abrasion resistance on regular printing and brass will do just fine. Even if you sometimes print with CF or the likes, you'll prolly want just one obXidian and one or handful of brass ones Double the price is p steep for most people
@systemx17
@systemx17 Год назад
@@rmanami That is REALLY good advice. The benefit of the swappable nozzles means any time you don't need the ObXidian, just swap back to brass. The ObXidian will last forever for most hobbyists.
@billmacfarlane4083
@billmacfarlane4083 Год назад
I'd like to look at upgrading my hotend on my Kywoo Max. But my eyes glaze over when it comes making wiring and firmware changes.
@cache4pat
@cache4pat Год назад
I wanted to print a small text stamp, using a 0.2mm nozzle. So I purchased a nozzle set from Amazon, that are exactly the same size & length as the stock nozzle that came with my Ender 5. When I put it in, the Amazon nozzle hung lower on my Heatblock. The stock Creality nozzle seems to have no threads near the heaterblock end, and must somehow nessle into the heatbreak; because it fits in deeper.. Resetting the BL Touch to allow for that was not a problem, but I worried about not having the 'hand in glove' fit to the Heatbreak that the original Creality part must have. My Amazon 'butt faced nozzle' started leaking only after a few prints; and I know I tightened it properly. I need a source for a 0.2mm nozzle. Where can I find tappered nozzles that have the best fit to the Ender products? I was considering upgrading to a 'Slicer' heatbreak, but pictures seen to show that it too has a tappered input end for nozzles to interface; so flat faced Amazon nozzles must not fit the best. I'd love to hear your opinion on this concern.
@RKH2OS
@RKH2OS Год назад
Question? Can you do a video on making a surface model thicker? I have a car model file ( .stl ) I bought from online and it is full size and it is a surface not a solid. I have issues making each part thicker. As I scale down to 1/3 scale I have to make it .120 inch thick so it will print ( can't print a surface ) or .360 thick before it is scaled down. Is there an easy way to do it and what software would you use?
@thinkdunson
@thinkdunson Год назад
so i'm a complete noob to 3d printing, and i'm not clear on how i would add the Obxidian nozzle to my printer. it looks super long compared to other nozzles you can buy... do you also have to buy their whole Revo thing in order to install their nozzle?
@TripleJAu
@TripleJAu Год назад
Sadly it doesn't support the creality 6 se 3d printer yet... Unless it's been updated please correct me if I am wrong
@mr.e.484
@mr.e.484 Год назад
IS there a G-code command to change the thermistor type?
@TeachingTech
@TeachingTech Год назад
Normally no. It must be compiled at firmware. However, if you compile with thermistor option 1000 in Marlin you can use the M305 gcode to change the parameters on the fly: marlinfw.org/docs/gcode/M305.html
@sylvainr7400
@sylvainr7400 Год назад
Hello what slicer you use at 5:25? thanks
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes Год назад
Will this new Biqu/Revo Obxidian DD Micro fit straight to the Ender 5 plus without FW adjustment?
@boggisthecat
@boggisthecat Год назад
Pretty sure that’s a no, due to the different temperature sensor. You can get good modified firmware for the Ender 5 Plus, so perhaps there is a variant that would work?
@Freakmaster480
@Freakmaster480 Год назад
The closed nature and exponentially higher costs while lacking a decent amount of functionality (high flow nozzles as an example) means that revo, at least in it's current state, will never make it into one of my systems
@jageshkano
@jageshkano Год назад
Can you do a video on true tungsten carbide nozzles? Not enough people are talking about it. Almost as had as the ruby tip yet offers the same thermal conductivity as brass. It's better than the obXidian no?
@JurassicJolts
@JurassicJolts Год назад
Why is weight reduction significant?
@spectermk1
@spectermk1 Год назад
Pretty much higher theoretical print speeds and less yerk from the belts.
@extectic
@extectic Год назад
It's primarily important for CoreXY machines that move fast. They can move fast because they only need to move the extruder and hot end around, and the lighter everything is, the faster they can throw that stuff around.
@rmanami
@rmanami Год назад
Less mass = Less inertia = Less energy spent when changing directions
@JeansWithPockets541
@JeansWithPockets541 Год назад
From the pov of a mini owner, I want a hotend that's light as possible because less weight on the X axis means less fiddling with replacing the linear rails. Also, print speed like others here are saying.
@kmartyCZ
@kmartyCZ Год назад
I really like Revo. But the nozzle prices, especially hardened ones, are absolutely no-go. It's the price of tungsten nozzle :-(.
@sm1980able
@sm1980able Год назад
Hi Michael, what LCD and Motherboard have you fitted to the prusa at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4X1F-dLVT3g.html
@makewithmegma
@makewithmegma Год назад
💕👌👍
@zoltansipos5125
@zoltansipos5125 Год назад
the H2 v2s Revo might be good but my problem is with "BIQU the company" if you have no problems then ok a the product might be good but that's half the part of a good company since customer support is the worst I ever had replies ar 5-10 days and negative revues or when you question them publicly they simply jut delete your review and post on their sites good way to build trust but since I don't know how many they deleted before who criticized them but if this is the policy then I will stick to different brands
@biqu7927
@biqu7927 Год назад
Hi! Sorry for the inconvenience. Sometimes we might not respond to you guys immediately because there are so many messages pouring into here at the same time. Could you please contact us via BIQU Facebook homepage? (facebook.com/BIQU3DPrinter) We would be glad to help you solve the problems.
@supergiantbubbles
@supergiantbubbles Год назад
A test of the durability is sorely lacking from this "test". This seems way too much like an advertisement rather than a real test.
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 Год назад
ObXiDian? Is this a Xi Jinping reference? Reminds me of the Kabo “Wolf Warrior.”
@axelSixtySix
@axelSixtySix Год назад
Well, as an old reprapper, I'm not amazed by the Revo system fore some reasons. First, Nozzles are wearing parts and expensive nozzles are not a good idea. There's not much perks to switch nozzles that often. Generally, every printer have its matching nozzle : 0.4 for general purpose, 0.6mm for production and, like on your Mini, 0.2mm nozzle for high detail FDM prints. Even if you own a single printer, I'm not sure you'll swich nozzles frequently. Maybe the first weeks to play or test differencies, but after a while, you'll stick to a fixed diameter, and forget it. IMHO the average guy will change a nozzle only when it get old, so maybe a couple of times per year, and the old style procedure with tools is no big deal, as it takes less than a minute. On the other hand, more than 20€ per nozzle is unnecessarily expensive. I noticed the hardened nozzles do not last much longer as there's several reasons for replacement : nozzle shape (abrasion, and mostly deformation because of the heat/cooling cycles) and charred filament residue. As a print farm tender with a lot of nozzles change, it's a no go, despite the piece of time saved. Another inconvenient truth is the all in one heat core: there's some frequent complains online about failing heatblocks, thermistor or heater. Once again, you have to change the whole expensive thing spending much time than for a single thermistor or cartridge. Last but not least, the V6/Hemera already printed perfect and did not leak, so... IMHO, the Revo is disavantaged by its overall maintenance cost and the claimed perks are questionnable. The Micro is the real improvement, except the Revo system. A micro V6 would put my money out of my pocket, but not the Revo thing. I will keep on buying V6 or so.
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