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TESTS: 1/2" B4 ENG Lenses on the GH4 - 4K Makes it work! Super Wide View & Powered Servo Zoom 

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@NoName-ju9cs
@NoName-ju9cs 8 лет назад
When you pointed to the edges to say that there is no vignette in the corners, we could see the shadow on the 4 corners.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 7 лет назад
That was the lens hood.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 7 лет назад
And when you do see the corners without the hood- that's DCI mode on the GH4 which is wider than UHD. The corners are cropped out when shooting standard UHD 4K.
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 5 лет назад
So, the key to this lens is shoot in 4k, get the power cable, and get the B4 to M43 adapter. Man, this might be the way to go for me. Seems way more practical for a video shooter.
@tvenergyproductions1
@tvenergyproductions1 3 года назад
The great thing to remember is that parfocal lenses don't need any focus adjusts between zooming in and out.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts Год назад
Very true.
@WeWereYoungandCrazy
@WeWereYoungandCrazy Год назад
if it's a 1/2" lens then it's not a B4 mount. B4 mount lenses are for cameras with 2/3" sensors .
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts Год назад
Technically correct, but the 1/2" bayonet mount is much more akin to the B4 mount than it is to the B3 mount, which was also bayonet. So for the sake of discussion- and simplicity, I've called it a B4 mount- and the seller of the adapter also called it a B4 mount in his listing, So searching for anything else wouldn't find the adapter.
@henryssurfshowcase
@henryssurfshowcase 6 лет назад
I use a 2/3 Fuji 14 x2 lens with Kenko x2 pro doubler on a Canon 70d with B4 adapter and it is awesome! Only problem is high zoom can get a little bit shaky and jittery with out built in image stabilizer, also lens coller helps to center and sure up weight..
@sneakdan
@sneakdan Год назад
Hi Antony, this is Carlos Eduardo from Brazil. His videos are one of the few that show a B4 1/2 lens working with an adapter. I got an adapter for B4 2/3 lenses, but I couldn't get it for B4 1/2. Your link to the adapter no longer works. Could you help me find this adapter? If it was B4 1/2 for EF or E mount it would be better, but nowadays, any type will do. Thanks in advance!
@Grahamster909
@Grahamster909 5 лет назад
The chromatic aberration is kinda rough though?
@AnotherMovieStudio
@AnotherMovieStudio Год назад
Where can I buy a doubler for a 1/2” lens?
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 5 лет назад
Oh, my goodness this may be the way to go for me. I've been buying all these Canon FD photo lenses. This B4 lens would cover all those focal lengths, and I would have zoom.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 5 лет назад
The difference is that the B4 lens is a compromise- it's designed for a much smaller sensor and you're stretching the image out to cover a much larger sensor. As such, it's not as crisp as a FD photo lens. If you want photo lens crispness and servo lens capability, both Canon and Fujinon have both developed Cine Servo Zooms for APSc sized sensors. These can be rented on an as needed basis. The purchase price is commensurate with quality.
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 5 лет назад
Ah, I see. I'll just keep my photo FD lenses.
@Dusty57Corvette
@Dusty57Corvette 7 лет назад
Great Video... I just bought a couple of Canon PH15 x 7B 1/2' video lenses off of Eby. Not sure whether to adapt them to my Nikon D7200, or may be buying a new GH5. Glad to see I'm not the only one to consider this option.
@GlueFactoryBJJ
@GlueFactoryBJJ 10 лет назад
Can you provide more information on how you powered this lens and any other "gotchas" that may arise from using it? Have you tried it "stripped" of the power zoom? Also, is the gearing the same pitch (0.8 pitch) as that usually used with follow focus setups?
@janludwig7286
@janludwig7286 4 года назад
This lens comes nowhere near to resolving UHD, especially with the extender, so it's pointless to use it to shoot UHD. Sure, there are broadcast lenses for UHD, but those are so expensive, it makes no sense to use them on a GH4.
@BayaniMagtanggol
@BayaniMagtanggol 9 лет назад
because of my inexperience with theses lenses, I didn't know that I bought a canon 1/2" lens and bought the wrong adapter!(2/3" to m4/3 adapter)....damn why is the 1/2" to m4/3 adapter so expensive?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
Because it hasn't been knocked off by the Chinese manufacturers yet. :)
@MikeVanRose
@MikeVanRose 4 года назад
Great video, thanks for sharing all the info! Would love to see this lens used in an actual shoot
@TheVickersDoorter
@TheVickersDoorter 5 лет назад
That intro sting is so 1986!
@FIRUFILMS
@FIRUFILMS 2 года назад
Hello B4 2/3 or 1/2 cover all the frame in a Lumix G85 or BMPCC OG? Thanks!
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 2 года назад
2/3" lens with internal doubler engaged.
@FIRUFILMS
@FIRUFILMS 2 года назад
@@IEBATechThoughts Thanks!
@MayhemJack
@MayhemJack 3 года назад
I do not get why people do not like vignetting, it looks amazing - especially if the look that you're after is a nostalgic video look.
@davidelupi6523
@davidelupi6523 3 года назад
it may look nice but it's definitively something you can't sell to a customer 🤣
@maxmustardman298
@maxmustardman298 3 года назад
Just a dumb amateur question, do you need to shoot in 4k to achieve am image in hd when using those old lenses ? Im just starting to get the idea why you dont see these parfocal lenses on modern dslr cams more often
@wakkowarner8810
@wakkowarner8810 Год назад
@@maxmustardman298 they make parfocal lenses for modern dslr cameras but they cost between 2k and 10k per lens or more so people use the b4 lenses because they don’t cost as much money to get
@ZarkOner
@ZarkOner 3 года назад
thanks tony hawk this was a great video
@reticulan5
@reticulan5 7 лет назад
I have a Kern 14mm to 115mm super 16 lens which is a little large that 2/3 inch when compared to digital sensors. So bigger than 1/2 inch. This of course means theres less chance of vignetting. But unfortunately it's Bayonet mount and I have been unable to find an adaptor. Sure would rock on my Gh4 as it is an electric servo zoom.
@nonjb3811
@nonjb3811 9 лет назад
respect!
@Doka_Butcher
@Doka_Butcher 5 лет назад
I have a lens Canon MACRO TV ZOOM LENS 6,2 - 112 mm 1:1.4 PH18x6.2B . I am in Moscow
@raytracingcj733
@raytracingcj733 2 года назад
Test NIGHT please
@dimikouk
@dimikouk 6 лет назад
There is a colour vignete distortion everywhere around your frame, look at the tree at your left side and right side. Only building behind you has no distortion. rest of the frame has.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
Zharmane VEVO For some reason I couldn't "reply" to your comment, so I'll reply here. The depth of the flange of the 2/3" and 1/2" are dramatically different so you can't use a 1/2" lens on a 2/3" mount. Also, lens charts are available many places online, including my articles on Streaming Media Producer, so you can research what you purchase before you click "buy." www.streamingmedia.com/Producer/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=80668&PageNum=2
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
Zharmane VEVO No. There's no optical adapter for 1/2" lenses to S16. Fotodiox makes one for 2/3" lenses only.
@HoundDogMech
@HoundDogMech 7 лет назад
Is there an adapter that will permit this lens or (Like Lens) to be used with a Canon APS-C lens 1.6x crop?
@wietseveen3615
@wietseveen3615 Год назад
As a 3D broadcast title animator. And for hobby/side job looking at some cool lensens for my gh5 I have to say that 3D intro is so so sooo amazing oldschool hahaha mann.. if you ever need a new 3D logo I’ll make it for you cheers from the Netherlands (btw love these eng lenses. At work they use them allot still and it gives a bit of a real tv vibe. Hope to some day can re-create that with my GH5 in some spare time. Cheers from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts Год назад
Ha ha yes, that's InfiniD. send me a note on my website: ieba.com
@medallionmotionpictures
@medallionmotionpictures 7 лет назад
Not for sure if anyone asked. Regarding this lens adapter or any lens adapter for the matter. I have a first generation 1997 Canon XL1 lens it's a Canon video zoom lens AF and M zoom lens with options for optical stabilization on /off also ND filter on / off. zoom range is 5.5-88mm 1.6-2.6 What would be the results if this adapter would mount to my GH4? I'm currently researching now and when I find an answer I'll definitely post a how to hack a canon xl1 xl2 zoom lens to MFT cameras. Please advise. Atlanta GA USA
@Stream4us
@Stream4us 7 лет назад
The zoom is internal, so it needs a hot shoe to provide power for internal zoom, internal iris, stabilization, etc. Without the power and camera control, those features wouldn't work. So you'd have a manual zoom lens, not a servo- which is the point of using a B4 lens. Also, the 1/3 sensor of the XL1 is minescule compared to the much larger M43 sensor. The B4 lenses are mostly 2/3 lenses, (not 1/3) and it's only because of the lens' doubler that they cover the M43 sensor. The 1/2" lens only covers because the GH4's 4K is a crop of the M43 sensor. The 1/3" lens, with no internal doubler, and no internal power, is a whole lot of work for not the right solution.
@MAOTRUCSETASTUCES
@MAOTRUCSETASTUCES 5 лет назад
Hello, I have a question to ask. I have a Fujinon S16x7.3BRM-SD camera lens and I try to fit it on my Canon EOS 750D. I put a B4-EOS adapter and a Viltrox C-AF 2X TELEPLUS to double the focal length. The problem is that the picture is completely fuzzy. Do you have any idea to fix this problem? Thank you in advance.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 5 лет назад
You probably need to adjust the backfocus.
@MAOTRUCSETASTUCES
@MAOTRUCSETASTUCES 5 лет назад
@@IEBATechThoughts Without wanting to make any precise adjustments, when I turn the backfocus setting ring, it does not really change. I will try again. Thanks anyway.
@riciorozzey1739
@riciorozzey1739 4 года назад
Where did you get that adapter ? The link provided is not working.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 4 года назад
I just tested the link, it's working (I had to add an exception to the security settings on my browser) and they do have the 1/2" lens adapter for $260.
@riciorozzey1739
@riciorozzey1739 4 года назад
IEBAcom I have a canon B4 1/2” lens that I’m trying to fit a Canon 5d mark Iv. Any suggestions ?
@Stream4us
@Stream4us 4 года назад
@@riciorozzey1739 You're going to have a very tiny video area in the center of your sensor. A 1/2" lens, WITH a doubler, does not even cover a whole Micro 4/3 sensor, which is smaller than an APSc sensor, and a lot smaller than a full frame sensor. Even if the 5D mkIV shot 4K, the are covered by the video might not even have enough pixels for HD.
@rafiuibrahim
@rafiuibrahim 9 лет назад
can you tell me where i can buy the lens & the model number
@DavidRosner
@DavidRosner 9 лет назад
I'm an EX3 Owner, but starting to look around for my next camera... this was quite informative, although from my days in sales at Band Pro (2005-2009), I seem to recall (just for nomenclature purposes), that B4 refers to 2/3" ONLY, and that there is a different name for the 1/2" mount...
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
David Rosner Possible, but even Canon itself does not make such a differentiation between 2/3", 1/2" and 1/3" lenses on their lens charts. . www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/standard_display/bctv_tools/bctv_accessories/bctv_access_lensmodel
@NebulousFilms
@NebulousFilms 5 лет назад
Will this work on my canon c100?
@trevorbroadbent1604
@trevorbroadbent1604 8 лет назад
Hi Anthony i am in Australia and have a GH4 and a canon YH19x6.7 KRS SY14 lens, can you advise what adaptor i could use Regards Trevor
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 8 лет назад
+Trevor Broadbent Use the charts I include in my article to determine the sensor size your lens is made for, and find the appropriate adapter for whichever type of camera you have. www.streamingmedia.com/Producer/Articles/Editorial/Featured-Articles/Adapting-Servo-Zoom-Lenses-for-Smooth-Zooming-DSLR-Production-Part-1-80668.aspx
@scottweigel5670
@scottweigel5670 9 лет назад
I'm in if it's any better in low light over the Lumix 12-35 2.8 Please, please do a real life low light comparison (best image from both lenses). Thank you!
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
"better" is subjective. If you want to talk about a parfocal servo zoom lens that doesn't adjust the iris while you zoom- while you record, the B4 lens wins hands down. If you mean sharper edge to edge with in camera correction for porthole and wide angle distortions, corrections for chromatic aberrations, sharpening and more, then the Lumix lens wins, hands down.
@Strm86
@Strm86 9 лет назад
Curious to see how this lens or similar lens would look with blackmagic design studio micro 4k, do you think this lense would work with a NEX6 with an adapter
@paulanderegg5536
@paulanderegg5536 7 лет назад
I just bought a Sony 1/2" to E mount adaptor for $55 on eBay. I plan to see how it works with my Canon KH21ex5.7 2x HD lens on my A7sII. I am a little worried about how much digital zoom (crop) I will have to enable to not get vignetting! Will post a video when the adapter arrives.
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 5 лет назад
Where do you get the doubler?
@chadmuskabeatz
@chadmuskabeatz 9 лет назад
Hi the 1/2 or 1/3 can work with no vignette with an b4 to m43 using etc mode?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
I've used 1/2" C-mount lenses on the GH2 in ETC and they covered. But I've not used the GH4 in ETC mode with the 1/2" lens. And I don't think the 1/3 will cover even in ETC mode.
@PrimeProvision
@PrimeProvision 9 лет назад
I personally will be investing in a 28-300 3.5-5.6 w metabones speedbooster on a GH4 equating to a 56-600 2.8 L all I need is a wide, might go with 10-22 canon 3.5 or similar. Thoughts?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
Prime Provision Sounds like good glass. But the ENG glass I'm talking about works completely differently.
@jrarsenault1937
@jrarsenault1937 9 лет назад
No smooth power zoom option on M4/3 lenses with this range.
@jonsph
@jonsph 5 лет назад
I’m using a Fujinon SD ENG B4 lens on my Sony A6300 and getting horrible chromatic aberration on most spots of light. Tried fixing in post using AE to moderate success, but it’s tedious. Not sure if anyone has found an adapter with a corrective lens to bring the white light back together for modern single ccd/cmos sensors, as compared to the 3 ccd cameras they were designed for.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 5 лет назад
Abel Cine sells a "corrective" adapter, but at last check it was well over $1,200. Alternatively, you can use large sensor cine servo zooms with no CA. But they are more expensive than a lens made 30 to 40 year ago for a sensor a fraction of the size that you are using now.
@jonsph
@jonsph 5 лет назад
IEBAcom Thanks for the suggestion. $1200 for the adapter will cost more than the lens and rig setup. But I’m still really enjoying the ergonomics of the setup and familiarity of servo zoom and manual focusing.
@giuseppeferro_eikonvideo
@giuseppeferro_eikonvideo 8 лет назад
hI Anthony i have a Canon YH 12x4.8 1/2'' + extender for Panasonic camcorder.Do you think it should work with a GH4? But how can i provide power to the lens?Or you just connect it by an adapter? Thanks
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 8 лет назад
+giuseppe ferro Depending on whether it's a 1/2" or 2/3" lens, you get the appropriate adapter. With a full 2x doubler, it should cover 4K (which is a crop of the M43 sensor) if it's a 2/3" lens then it covers full M43 sensor for HD as well.
@giuseppeferro_eikonvideo
@giuseppeferro_eikonvideo 8 лет назад
ok thanks Anthony
@jotaelerocha
@jotaelerocha 6 лет назад
Hola Antony !!! Puedo colocar este lente B4 , a Panasonic AG AF 100 ??, Thanks you ....
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 6 лет назад
I don't have an AF100, but it is a M43 camera. It uses the full sensor so a wide lens like this will vignette on it. Also, it's HD only, so the only thing you can do to try and save the image is crop to 720p in post to reduce the vignetting you would get from a 1/2" lens on the AF100.
@nicolasherreraw7591
@nicolasherreraw7591 7 лет назад
Hi Anthony, how does this lens beahve if you want to use it manually sometimes? Thanks for your video, very helpful.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 7 лет назад
Yes, the B4 lenses can be used in a fully manual mode. Using them on M43 cameras, you can only power the zoom. There is no iris communication to the lens so that remains manual. Focus is always manual.
@nicolasherreraw7591
@nicolasherreraw7591 7 лет назад
Thanks for taking your time and help us!
@tipp0183
@tipp0183 9 лет назад
thanks for sharing. how are you powering the the zoom servo.
@AlexCAnderson
@AlexCAnderson 9 лет назад
on his website ieba.com, he has articles explaining how he rigged a power pack for the servo cable i found this fotodiox product that was recently released that does the same thing www.fotodioxpro.com/fotodiox-pro-turbopack-9000-dc12v-powerpack-for-b4-lens-servo-power-cables.html
@tipp0183
@tipp0183 9 лет назад
Alex Anderson thanks man
@ruhnet
@ruhnet 9 лет назад
It's great that this 1/2" lens actually covers the m4/3 sensor.
@IEBAcommunications
@IEBAcommunications 9 лет назад
It doesn't. It covers the 4K crop of the M43 sensor in the GH4. The 4K image area is NOT the whole M43 sensor. Many people don't realize that. This lens will vignette when shooting HD and using the whole M43 sensor.
@genovevafernandez6679
@genovevafernandez6679 6 лет назад
Hi!!! I have a nikkor tv ed 8-123 mm, and my qusetion is: can i put in a canon t5?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 6 лет назад
You sure can, you just need additional telephoto adapters to further expand the circle of light from the lens.
@genovevafernandez6679
@genovevafernandez6679 6 лет назад
IEBAcom thank you so much
@medialive49
@medialive49 7 лет назад
How do you power the lens?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 7 лет назад
You plug the lens cable into a battery setup you can find on e-bay.
@medialive49
@medialive49 7 лет назад
Like this? www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12v-to-6-Pin-Hirose-Cable-AF100-GH2-Power-B4-2-3-Fujinon-Canon-Nikon-WY27-/162084864327?hash=item25bd02c147:g:SScAAOSwNsdXSKvL
@CharlezRichard
@CharlezRichard 4 года назад
Can I adapt this lens to my Fujifilm X-T4?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 4 года назад
You'll have to work that out, whether there's a 1/2" lens to Fuji mount i your first hurdle.
@CharlezRichard
@CharlezRichard 4 года назад
@@IEBATechThoughts yes there is. I was just wondering if the 2x magnification would work on the APS-C sensor without vignette. Do you know?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 4 года назад
@@CharlezRichard It worked on my JVC LS300, but not ever lens is the same, and the size of the circle of light changes through the zoom range. And not ever APSc sensor size is the same either.
@TV-FilmCameramanUK
@TV-FilmCameramanUK 9 лет назад
thats not an 1/2inch lens... 17 years television experience tells me thats a 2/3rds. Your results will be better if you had a 2/3rds adapter.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
Look up the model number- PH8x4.4. PH is a half inch lens. It's a half inch adapter. If I put a 2/3" adapter on there the lens would essentially be a macro lens because it'd be about a centimeter too far from the sensor. But I appreciate your comment. :)
@vargas095
@vargas095 9 лет назад
I think you're wrong, that cannot be a 2/3rd inch lens not at that focal length and that size. The 2/3rd inch lens at that focal and that size, impossible. I've only been doing video for 40 yrs and own a few 2/3rd and 1/2 lenses.
@SnoozeIRTL
@SnoozeIRTL 9 лет назад
Yeah, any Canon lens with a model name that starts with PH means "Studio/Field Lens for 1/2". I have a pdf file decoding model names because I shop these lenses.
@1236ddarling
@1236ddarling 6 лет назад
The lens in question IS INDEED a half inch lens. Check the model number for starters.
@rishidilip11
@rishidilip11 4 года назад
​@@SnoozeIRTL What about Canon "YH". i recently got Canon YH18x6.7 KRS IX12 1/2" Zoom Lens and I have issues connecting it to the bmpcc4k. it acs as a macro lens. As suggested by others I used mount (B4 to M4/3 Adapter Compatible with for Canon Fujinon 2/3" Lens to Micro Four Thirds M4/3 Cameras &for Olympus EP1,EP2,EP3 &for Panasonic DMC-G1, DMC-G2,Pen-F E-PL7 E-P5 Camera+ ) Please help me if there is a way I can mount that lens to my camera.
@jasonlindquistmedia
@jasonlindquistmedia 8 лет назад
you should do low light test.
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 8 лет назад
+JLfilms Low light test is a test of the camera- sensor, sensitivity, noise profile, ISO, noise reduction, etc. Not a test of a lens.
@leze23
@leze23 9 лет назад
what about 1080p mode? does it work?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 7 лет назад
It requires the 4K mode's "crop" of the sensor to "fit" the image area in the circle of light.
@novaorbitdragon
@novaorbitdragon 7 лет назад
IEBAcom So if I shoot in 1080p, it'll do that circle thing that the doubler is supposed to remove?
@Stream4us
@Stream4us 7 лет назад
The doubler just makes the circle of light wider. It's not "supposed to remove" anything. Also, this is a 1/2" lens, not a 2/3" lens, so the circle is distinctly smaller.
@stevejackson6336
@stevejackson6336 9 лет назад
Have you tried an Internal Focus lens?
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
Steve Jackson Yes, I have. This is an IF lens. My other B4 lens is an IF lens. IF means the front element doesn't rotate, and typically they have a rectangular lens hood, as this one does.
@stevejackson6336
@stevejackson6336 9 лет назад
I have a Canon YH 16X7 KRS SY14 1/2" lens. It has no cable that attaches to the camera. How does this lens zoom, with no power? Thanks!
@IEBATechThoughts
@IEBATechThoughts 9 лет назад
Steve Jackson Look up that model on ebay and you'll see it's supposed to have a cable. You can remove the grip and open it to seek out the zoom motor power if you are electrically inclined.
@stevejackson6336
@stevejackson6336 9 лет назад
Ok, Thank You
@ruhnet
@ruhnet 9 лет назад
I did know that but yes thanks for mentioning that for others sake.
@Bobster986
@Bobster986 9 лет назад
Great idea, but I can see the distortion on the corners... sorry :-(
@IEBAcommunications
@IEBAcommunications 9 лет назад
You're welcome to get the Canon Cine Servo lens instead. Starts at $30,000.
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