TF2 - Dealing with Spies 

number 1: call their waifu trash, this move will make them instantly leave the server

My favorite kind of spy is the one that stabs you right in front of a sentry gun or your whole team, and dies a second later. But not because you're an especially important target. Because that was their brilliant plan all along.

Next day: Mr Paladin: "TF2- Dealing with Demos"

The best anti-spy weapon is the microphone

If there's a chance Spy is using dead ringer, my tip is to collect their ammo pack. If it granted you ammo or metal, he's dead. But if the pack is fake, prepare for the second attack.

Counter the flying spy? Are mad? That spy subclass has been op since day one.

I wish the last moment happened like this: Demo: *places stickies around spy* Spy: Not our finest moment Demo: Yes Demo: *detonates stickies*

Your killstreaks do increase when you pop a DR

As a Spy main, I fit into every category you just described.

Short answer Pyros

Turn around.

"Spies really like calling for medic when they're disguised." Damn, my entire team were spies all along.

The funny part about the last clip is not that you cornered a spy. It's that you missed the original spy that walked right underneath you when you jumped off the balcony at 13:09

"This is not our finest moment"

2:00 “As long as I got my back up against this here wall you can’t kill me you snake” “He’s right. There is literally no way for a spy to counter this. He’s just a walking gimm- BOOM THATS RIGHT SPY CAN HEADSHOT PEOPLE”

You missed to cover a spy with their revolver. A good spy when dueling you won't hesitate to just shoot you. The stock revolver is a big threat and not underestimated. The amby is kinda lame ATM so don't worry about it hah

Watching a spy fail a stair stab is like watching a cat fail to jump to the next ledge, it's adorable and kind of sad.

STOP TELLING ALL OUR SECRETS GOD DAMN IT!

Thoughts of a player in battle: When normally playing: 1) shoot boolets 2) Don’t get backstabbed 3) MEdIC!1 When you get backstabbed the first time 1)Don’t get backstabbed 2) don’t get backstabbed 3) Press z 2 4) MeDIC!1!

You should've used the :toofthink: emote to be fair

I'm a spy main myself, and this was quite accurate. Just one more tip, JUST TURN AROUND!

As a spy player with my fair share of experience in pubs and competitive , I'll just add to what you say in various sections of the video. 1:25 - I find that a lot of people do this certain tactic a lot, but tend to accidentally walk in a linear fashion to their source of metal (dispenser or ammo packs) and usually spy check either right before or right after they reach the metal source. Then they almost always walk to the closest side of the sentry and rotate behind it. I think people just subconsciously like to be behind their sentry so recognizing this pattern has gotten me my fair share of engineer picks. They also tend to rotate the same direction until their wrench hits the gun, then they either chose to reverse directions or stay going the direction they already were. This is another pattern that has helped me pick paranoid engineers. 2:15 - This is just a little tip but people can stand on that lamp post behind you, and it's a very good CnD spot, just check that before standing there or you might get ambushed. 2:42 - It is a very good idea not to backpedal versus a spy but not for the reason you said. In a situation where a spy is coming up behind you while you are engaged in a firefight with other players, you are most likely going to die weather you back pedal or stay in the same general spot while strafing. The reason back pedaling is bad is because you move at a slow speed and your back hitbox is wack. This makes it much easier for spies too get those wacky trickstabs where he was visible on your screen to the side of you but he still got the stab. Now I still recommend turning around and running away from firefights so you can't get stabbed then, but usually the most immediate threat is the person your fighting, so I still would say to only turn around after you kill them or if they duck behind cover for a moment then you can check your back really quick before engaging again. 5:11 - Another HUGE tipoff is when a friendly is looking right at you for an excessive amount of time. This can even be as short as 1-2 seconds, but that is a long time in a game like TF2. Teammates tend to keep their back too allies because they have nothing to fear from them, while spies tend to look right at enemies because they know that they can take damage from all of them. If you ever see someone starring you down, it's always worth a spy check. 10:30 - A general tip for fight DR spies is to glance at the top of your screen where it shows who is dead and who is not. When you "kill" a DR spy and he feigns away, his icon will not appear grayed out. If he actually dies then he will become grayed out. 11:35 - Your KS will increase. There are more things I could have added, (espicially in the "Finding the Spies" and the Hunting the Spies" categories) but I decided against it since it mainly only applies to competitive or spies that play competitive since they tend to do more big brain plays. I figured that because this video is based more on casual play I wouldn't include those tips. ~Also it would take a long time and I'm kinda lazy~ Hope this helped expand on what was already said in this already well informed video.

They literally just need to remove spawn wall hacks. Or at the very least they need to make it so once you leave the spawn room you lose the hack instead of a set amount of time (with a 10 second limit).

Oh no... it looks like my reign of terror is over now

Just say they are a baguette man and they get french depression

As a heavy, you should gouge out one of your eyes and stick it in the back of your head.

That fail stair stab montage was so great along with that music selection! Great video! Demo has become my second favourite class because of you. I follow your tips while playing.

7:10 That ragdoll, I've seen few that were more spectacular and gut-busting-ly hilarious.

8:03 look at that epic trickstab.

"Turn around." -Uncle Dane

You know what I have done so many good backstabs so I’ll call myself Annoyingly good spy

Me, a pyro main: I saw a single pixel of the enemy color. Now I must spycheck the entire map

I think another reason for the backpedalling thing is that it makes you slower, allowing a spy to move behind your back for a stab.

Another tip for duelling the DR : Wear some pyroland item. For some reason "killing" a DR Spy will almost always trigger his long laugh (the one from the Schaden taunt). And that laugh is almost as long as the DR's cloak time and will follow the Spy. So follow the laugh yourself.

13:31 «Not our finest moment.” *а few seconds later dies to a ambi/spicycle mannco spy*

Last tip "just go pyro" Me who shutdown 3 crit pyro by trickstabbing: interesting

great video toofters! I love your production skills and clips you use. Also, you are a pipe god. I commend you. Some of those pipe hits blew my mind. something else I may add when you're spy checking: if you see a spy on your team, and he's not wearing a disguise mask, and you can see all his cosmetics, you can disregard him. he's truly on your team. If a spy is disguised as a spy, he will always be wearing a disguise mask. It took me a super long time before i realized that, and it's kind of a good thing because that makes him the one class that you don't actually need to try and run through, or set on fire, to spy check (other than teammates that are clearly firing their gun) Tips for spies: you can really only do 3 things while disguised: change weapons, reload weapons, and use voice lines. If you do all three of these things a lot, it makes it a hell of a lot more convincing. I've been disguised as a heavy before, an enemy medic came up to me and started healing me and then immediately pulled out his ubersaw to spy check me. I did the spy call X+2 and that reverse psychology immediately made him stop spy checking me and instead, started swinging the saw into corners and shit. And then yes, I did backstab him. I felt like I was playing TF2 in 3019. anyway, again, great video dude! I love these. Also, hats off for making this more of a general video instead of specifically for demoman, even though I love your demoman vids. Keep it up!

Also get a good pair of headphones to hear decloaks and stabs

Toofty: And Finally The Flying Spy Me: There is another the Rarest,🦀

2 tips not mentionned in your video against DR Spies: -Look the skull on the scoreboard when you "kill" a spy, if the skull disapears near the name of the spy you just "killed" really quick, this spy is still alive. -If you take the ammo pack dropped by the spy, and it doesn't give you ammo, this spy is still alive.

I absolutely love this channel. Like seriously. I can't exaggerate how much.

I have some serious case of deja vu

When your a spy main watching this to see how your enemy’s are thinking: SNEK

"Obviously, you can't just spy-check everyone all the time" Well hold my beer, partner.

7:11 it wasn't the "Hail Mary" that made me laugh, it was that rag doll!

Thank you for this video. I was having a very frustrating time with spys and this video really helped me.

Wait, no hitsound is played when triggering a Ringer? Oh my god... I never knew either... Thanks for teaching me this, dude!

I read on the wiki that using the "battle cry" voice command with a certain weapon equipped (idk which but melee seems to work with all classes) your character will say one of a few special voice lines instead of the usual ones even against disguised spies You have to be looking directly at an enemy for it to work

“Just go pyro” **laughs in spycicle**

Take a shot everytime he says Spy/Spies.

Toofty: pls fix the literal wallhacks so spies don't get naenae'd Valve: *updated localization files*

0:06 That's actually called a butterknifer or a SHPEE. Facestabbers are actually the Spy mains that know how to abuse lag, and will use settings to give them high ping and/or interp.

Tip for "RIc TSebs": don't walk into the spy and walk back. With spys who walk around a corner to corner stab. Take a wide straife this also helps with fighting pyro. Trick stabs are obvious if you know how they work and airblast denys any trickstabs and some spys will get very tilted if you airblast them too much.

As a pyro main, rule #1 against spies, never ever let them into melee range, especially with knives like the kunai that just let them facetank damage. Experienced spies will usually go for trickstabs or facestabs when caught out because of how the backstab mechanic works with hitboxes and lag where they get you to face one way by strafing left (or around corners), then they quickly go the other way before your client catches up, and you're facestabbed.

Good video for my birthday (22 feb), I really like that video and hopefully your tips pay off.

I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS: GOD BLESS YOU!

Me a spy main: you may have outsmarted me, but i outsmarted your outsmarting.

7:11 lol that ragdoll Also if you put your back against the wall, the Spy could still kill you with a revolver, especially the Ambassador, which crits on headshots, or the Diamondback if he has enough crits stored up.

2:41 same with trolldiers. #1 rule: *D O N ‘ T . B A C K . U P .*

I play a lot of Medic so i knew the Uber thingy but i've never noticed the hitsound one. Thanks for the useful info

Toofty: dealing with spy Pyro mains: Laughs in wm1

Another very easy way of telling a Dead Ringer apart from a real kill is to walk over the ammo pack they drop upon death. A Dead Ringer pack won't actually give you ammo or play the sound of picking it up. It'll simply disappear when you walk over it and since you probably spent ammo on killing the spy, it'll be easy to tell if you got more when grabbing the pack.

That last clip with the mann co store hat spy... not our finest moment

0:26 he really said 🌠

Me: *follow enemy to stab* Enemy: *turns around* Me: So, you have chosen... -102

i really like your sticky launcher. looks sick!

this actully helped me in game, good job nice vid.

13:31 "not our finest moment"

5:43 What is the name of this song? This one is not in the description, I checked.

When it comes to stair trick stabs... I know there is a 80% chance of failure, but i can't hold back. Those few successes are just that rewarding.

4:15 dont you love when two cloaked spies run into each other

I'm not sure how well known this is but for the Dead Ringer, any weapon that every hit shows up in the scoreboard (being Holy Mackerel, Hot Hand and Unarmed Combat) show up on the scoreboard as a normal kill instead of a specialized kill which has text after the kill icon. Again, I have no idea how well known this is Edit: This is listed on the Wiki, which I did not check before now

I haven’t checked the link yet, but one really good dead ringer check is the top of the hud. Fake deaths from the dead ringer don’t show up in the top of the hud where it shows your team and the dead enemies.

Amazing little tidbits, very useful.

12:38 That Spy who got Holiday Punched to death... That's what friendly killers deserve.

7:10 who knew spy could cartwheel?

The best spy check video Nice one!

6:27 Cloak and Dagger spies: I don’t have such weaknesses.

Another good thing if you're not quite sure is to check the scoreboard with tab, their name won't be greyed out if they faked it. has saved me more than once

8:35 damn, toofty be lookin might fine

I hate the deadringer. It is usually very obvious that a spy has used it, yet they now are nigh-invincible and will soon be back to try to kill you again

Honestly, as a "professional" spy, they all just attack your teammates when they are distracted or in a middle of the battle since they wouldnt hear the decloak and wont turn around

Love your stuff toofty!

i love this spy that kept you at gunpoint of crit diamondback just so you would dance with him

That poor spy at the end of the video... An F for that guy. There was nothing he could do to get out of that situation.

obviously this is 2 years too late, but another tip that wasnt mentioned for Dead Ringer spies is to actually check the other teams member list thing at the top of the hud; there wont be a grayed out Spy with the respawn icon to suggest one had died, this is what i do whenever i kill any spy and it works pretty well on its own even

I always chase spies when they are goin down stairs and what do they do when they are doin a trickstab on me? I flicked so hard that it has a random crit

quick tip on how to catch a dead ringer spy. quickly look at the tab of the dead players the enemy team has in the if a dead spy icon appears the moment you kill an enemy spy, you can usually confirm that they used stock invis watch or the cloak and dagger. if a dead spy icon does not appear the moment you kill an spy, they are using the dead ringer

Is it illegal if I go into game files and open the (DR) decloak sound effect and amplify it so it is earrape?

Something about accidently killing a cloaked spy is really special and should be immediately treasured forever

My number one rule as spy is Be random People expect you to be in a corner so I cloak in a random place in the room they are in

I have a weird bug where my stock grenade launcher and sticky launcher have like seven shots, then I have to go find ammo and it goes back to seven. Even if I get the cabinet and reload and everything.

Do deadringer spies appair in the top part of the HUD as dead?

Was sitting in my sentry nest in 2 fort and spy walks in disguised as me like what was the thought process

the " and of course, the flying spy " line in 2019 : * joke the " and of course, the flying spy " line in 2020 : * realistic

How do you look behind yourself though because if you turn around behind you is now the opposite side

Also if a teammate Isn’t using there item/weapon it’s safe to think there probably a spy. as a spy main I know this guide is very helpful and works so yeah all of these have worked on me before.

5:02 the ultimate perk of owning a 1/1 unusual

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