[TF2] In Defense Of The Dalokohs Bar 

i’ll never forget the time a tryhard demoman accused me of cheating because i was using the dalokohs bar

As if being chocolate wasn't unhealthy enough, you're also eating it WAY more then other items.

3:15 is actually fkin hilarious that sniper was so polite about smearing your brains on that wall

The Dalokohs Bar is preferable to a raw steak.

I like how this combo is basically about losing loads of calories from running, then gaining them again from eating chocolate

Since four years I've used the Dalokohs Bar and let me tell you, there's no better feeling than surviving a random critical pipe or direct hit, killing them, and taunting.

Fun fact: the chocolate bar doesn't increase your max overheal because that extra medigun healing is working against the diabetes.

3:20 love how the sniper took his time to actually thank you for standing still before headshotting you

A very useful upside of the Dalokohs bar is that it brings the resistance thresholds of the Brass Beast and Natascha up to 175 health instead of 150. While it may not sound that consequential, having that much more health and resistance that kicks in even earlier can make you unbelievably tanky when using these items together.

“This is Heavy’s chocolate bar.” “As you can see, unknown little baby man has taken bite out of it without breaking it beforehand.” “Heavy will find the person who has done this and break their spine like twig.”

[Eating Chocolate] Game: Heals bullet wounds and makes you slightly healthier. IRL: Diabetic Shock

I eat your choclate, I eat all of your choclate!

Imagine if overheal didn't cap at 450, Dalokohs would be #1 choice for pocket Heavies

Ok that Heavy + Medic kill at 6:40 is pretty convincing even if the fire was making his healing less effective.

2:43 he poisoned his medic with the autobalance sandvich, what a monster.

My brother named a strange Dalokohs Bar “Doc Louis’ Chocolate” and a KGB “Giga Mac Gloves”.

If Valve figures out how to fix the GRU and Dalokohs bar switch overheal exploit through its messy spaghetti code, then they should definitely bring back the overheal feature that the Dalokohs bar used to have as the only reason why it was removed was because this switch exploit used to be way more broken during Jungle Inferno where it would give the Heavy almost infinite health, and Valve only put an end to the infinite health exploit by nerfing the Dalokohs bar so it couldn't overheal anymore making the infinite health exploit impossible, but Valve technically never really fixed the bug.

The Gru+bar bug also logically makes sense since in context the Heavy is running and pushing himself harder than usual, tiring him out (the hp drain), but the sugar rush of the chocolate bar replenishes his spent stamina in a short, small burst.

as someone that has eaten the dalokohs bar 245387 times i can definitely say it is a food item

For the GRU exploit, you can quickly swap back and forth to the GRU to quickly lower your health pool as swapping to the GRU instantly lowers your HP by 30. That means if you need to fully heal but don't need to run too far away to heal, then you just spam swap to the GRU and then eat the chocolate to get the exploit. This makes it more viable for defense.

i always thought it would be cool if you could cook the steak after throwing it with fire damage. like you could toss it down, blast it with the hou long, and turn it into a full health box that also works on you.

I’m a heavy main (yes I know) and I usually run the dalokohs bar. That extra 50 health really improves heavy’s survivability. In practice it feels like a huge buff. Plus, I don’t need to max up my health all the time. Sometimes just a quick 100 health boost is enough to get back in a fight and win it.

2:45 is comedic gold, the way it was presented was just perfect

Despite the fact that sandwich heals up more health for your teammates, i think it's important to mention that both Dalokosh and Banana are way better for extinguishing people, basically you can save a teammate from dying to afterburn 3 times more often than with normal sandwich, and banana is usually still preferred to ve eaten by most heavies instead of veing given to some random burning teammate, while Dalokosh is so inefficient at actually healing the heavy that it's not really hurting him if he give it away, making it best item for fighting against multiple pyros.

I still think Dalokoh's as a weapon could be better overall, but honestly, the main problem it has is that Second Banana is just too good. Even nerfing the banana's recharge time to what it's listed as (50%, which would be 15 seconds, 10 seconds is 66% faster) helps Dalokoh's out quite a bit. That being said, even despite using both weapons quite often, I genuinely was not aware of the synergy chocolate bar and GRU had, that's actually pretty cool. If Valve ever get along to weapon rebalances sometime down the road, hopefully they don't go after that lol.

Dark chocolate is actually quite healthy for you. Maybe that's what the Dalokohs bar is made of.

"Sir, can I interest you in some... *chocolate?"* "Chocolate? Did you say chocolate?" "Yes, sir with or without nuts." "CHOCOLATE? CHOCOLATE! CHOOOOOCLAAATE!! CHOOOOOCLAAAAATEE!!!"

The Dalokohs Bar to me kind of just exists. It definitely isn't a bad item, since the buff is pretty decent and has no downsides, but I feel like I have no reason to use it over the Sandvich or Banana since those are just that good.

In my opinion, in casual the ranking of lunchbox items is as follows 1. Banana 2. Dalokohs 3. Sandvich 4. Steak The banana is often seen as the solo heavy's lunchbox item, but I would argue in any situation barring comp or being with a dedicated medic in a party, the banana is the best choice for healing both yourself and your teammates. You can have THREE small health packs out and to three teammates in the same time you will have a single sandvich. same goes for dalokohs. The dalokohs also allows you to survive three pipes from a demoman, paired with the fists of steel and you make one of the easiest classes to catch off guard and kill one of the hardest because of the higher health and damage reduction, and this is without a medic. Dalokohs exceeds when your team has no medic, in fact that's really the only time it's good. For comp the ranking is a bit more like 1. Sandvich 2. Banana 3. Steak (Speed boost) 4. Dalokohs

Holy crap, I never heard of that GRU exploit! This is legitmately one of the most surprising facts I've ever heard about the weapons you cover. Nice job!

COCKLATE BAR WWOOOOOO But I think one thing you should’ve mentioned is that it pairs nicely with the brass beast and the Natasha cause the higher hp can make up for your slower rev speed and the 20% damage resistance applys at higher hp making your total effective health 385 allowing you to tank huntsman headshots Also there is more synergy with the fists of steel than you think as there’s an exploit where if you eat the dalokas bar then pull out the fists a medic will actually still build at full Uber rate and as long as they don’t break the beam your overhead will still be capped at 390 meaning you can shoot while building Uber faster. Meaning if your playing with a pocket the dalokas is still the best option

2:45 the absolute pain of that moment….

Dalokohs bar's purpose, I feel, is more of the sidegrade weapons to those who specifically have a pocket. Just removing the 30 seconds you have that health would make it so much more viable. It would be like bonk, niche, but would be so much better at pushes, maybe increase the eating speed, too.

This item is surprisingly very synergistic with a lot of aspects of the game. Namely any effects that cause healing is suddenly way more appealing, as the biggest source of healing in the game (Medic) is made strong due to the fact that players don’t need to actively take damage to utilize his capability, as abusing Overheal to its maximum potential is paramount to his role on the team. More base HP opens more opportunities to utilize health sources that can’t overheal but usually are harder to time, due to having to be missing Health in the first place. Things like Mad Milk, Concheror, Health kits, Dispensers.. heck, Medic still greatly benefits from it, with the Crusader’s Crossbow, and the Amputator. Max HP is a statistic that is handed out incredibly loosely, with most classes having to trade something extremely valuable to gain even a small sliver. This was the reason why the old Pocket Pistol was broken, as Scout basically had 15 Health for the low price of just a slightly worse pistol. Heavy gives up the sheer strength of his healing item to gain max health, and even then, only temporarily. The only case remaining in the game that might defy this logic is the battalions backup, with how strong its effect is coupled with 220 Health that lets him walk away from fights with 1 HP way more often. The Kunai is another unique case, but it’s more reasonable given the innate risk. It’s also worth noting that the chocolate synergizes with the Vaccinator. More base hp to get Uber off of, and keep their higher heal rate, less overheal doesn’t really matter too much since a Vac medic doesn’t usually fully overheal anyone anyways. It means you’re even more of a nightmare to counter with single damage types.

13:25 I can't believe you punched Walter White I'm literally crying right now

I hope the heavy update gives him a breakfast themed item to complete the full lunchbox menu. I had an idea of a piece of toast that is eaten much faster, gives back any missing health as overheal style health, and gives him a speed boost that increases the more health he has missing. The main downside being a significant decrease in weapon damage while its active. It would be made to help the heavy retreat and get proper healing

the dalokohs bar is completely underated and everyone i know besides me hates me for using it, im so glad to know that other people agree

I’m glad someone else is talking about this fun combo

One note: Surviving three direct grenade hits, scattergun shots and rocket attacks doesn't matter much when those weapons have a clip size larger than three, and that heavy is a really slow-moving target.

I like all the lunch box items, the sandwich is if I feel like helping medics, bananas if I’m selfish, the chocolate if I want to be tankier and the steak if I want to be a boxer heavy for fun

This has always been my favorite food item for heavy even though i dont think its very powerful, it just helps with that extra health for being even tankier

I love how Fishstick will give a sincere attempt on a bad weapon and will either find its secret/niche OP or totally unviable. Its really cool to see someone really get into the game like how I do with Pokemon

Ya know, of course it’s the sniper complaining about the fists of steel

God I miss the dalokohs creators server. "Play awesomely and be awesome... Yeah..."

I always use the Dalokohs because I don't expect to have a Medic with me. That said, other players preferring you to have a sandvich instead is just because they prefer a bigger heal for *themselves*. If you can spread heals among multiple people I'd say you have a decent additional source of healing that is more consistent and you can leave the healthpacks so you can run on two cooldowns independent from each other. The only direct downside compared to the sandvich is that if you have a Medic pocketing you it will be difficult to keep him healed at crucial times.

idk what chocolate you eat, but a proper, high percentage dark chocolate is actually very healthy

I still remember when the gru and dalokhas bar were broken after the jungle inferno update 200000+ hp was ridiculous lol

You forgot to mention it stacks with Brass Beast and Natascha's 20% extra damage resistance while at half health. Basically you get the bonus at 175 health instead of the 150.

Oh hey, who's that sexy scout at 12:46 :D Something else to note about the Dalokoh's with the Fists of Steel is that it effectively counteracts the overheal penalty of the Fists of Steel, allowing you to get over 600 effective health with a medic on you while tanking damage with the fists!

I've always been a huge fan of both HP boosting items, the chocolate bar and the battalion's backup. The number of times the extra 50 (or 20) max HP has saved my ass is kind of nutty. Plus, they both have good utility besides! The chocolate is great for topping off HP as you said, and I feel that the buff from the backup is criminally undervalued, even outside of niche situations where it's completely busted (pushing sentries with no medic, giving the middle finger to an enemy kritz medic, etc.).

The Dalokohs Bar was my first lunchbox item. I got it from an item drop and it showed me that the Sandvich wasn't the only edible item in TF2. It will always have a special place in my heart for that.

I think this video might be my favorite of yours so far, and I've been watching your stuff for a while. Good work 👍

The Dalohkos and Steak always needed a faster eating taunt than the Sandvich and Banana; the GRU bug shouldn't account for that.

I’ve been stanning the chocolate for years. Now, in my video I paired it with the fists of steel, but I regularly use it with the Gru too. I wasn’t aware of the health trick you mentioned though! The Dalohkohs also is a great Boone for Tomislav users. In a heavy VS heavy battle the Tommy’s lower short range DPS is mitigated by having higher HP than the other heavy. Also as you mentioned, it breaks many damage thresholds (even more with the fists of steel) and is great for quick fix medics (as a former quick fix medic main myself, I appreciate that). It also in general helps your medic gain Uber charge, as you don’t hit over heal for 50 extra HP.

I need more of these "this weapon thats underwhelming is actually very good and heres how" videos

I tend to use the Dalokohs Bar pretty frequently actually whenever I play as Heavy. The fast recharge is pretty busted.

A suprising jump in production value. Well done!

I’ve been running the church of chocolate for years now, just the fact that demos need to hit 4 pipes instead of 3 to kill me makes all the difference. Hope to see more people use it, or just more people playing heavy for that matter.

This was a great and educational video focused on my favorite secondary for Heavy. As a Heavy main myself, the GRU combod with the chocolate bar was something I was unaware of (I primarily use the KGOB), and can see myself utilizing it in the future. Thanks for making this video!

2:45 Throwing a hard metal object with sharp angles towards the direction of the only healer isn’t the brightest idea

I must say that I have always been quite attached of this secondary, having been the first "consumable food" that I obtained and that in the past I used actively, therefore seeing new methods or even simply seeing how to use it better; it fills me with joy, thanks Fish.

My first strange quality weapon was the dalokoh's bar, and i bought that willingly. I also wanted this video to come out so the price goes up. We will se how it works out

3:16 that snipe is disrespectful 😭😭😭

The candy bar do be my favorite "2fort pub Im about to stomp into the dirt with the brass beast and boxing gloves" secondary

I like the synergy between the GRU and the bar, it's like you're running off the downside of the chocolate

The chocolate bar is my favorite lunchbox item! The HP boost helps out a lot against the explosive classes!

In defence of the meat: Medieval mode... Yes that's pretty much it lol

The fishcake is the best reskin. Surprised to see you not using it considering the channel theme

I have been mainlining the Dalokohs bar during all my years in TF2. It's about time someone recognised its true potential.

If you eat the Bar while using the Brass Beast on defense, you become the ultimate sentry heavy. On that note, the resistances of the Brass Beast triggers on health thresholds, right? Do they trigger on the modified health given by the Bar or do they work always on the normal health?

I've heard this video idea eluded to in streams and such and I've been waiting patiently for it ever since. Glad to see it came to fruition and ended up being so good

Dalokohs bar + fists of steel = hilariously tanky payload pusher

The amount of times i was saved by using the dalokohs bar combined with the Brass beast is much more than i was expecting when i started using the loadout .

The Sandvich is like the overachieving older brother of the secondary slot and all it’s siblings live in its gigantic shadow

thank you for this, i honestly spent like a few days last week trying to figure this weapon out in game and failing miserably, but this just makes much more sence then whatever i was trying to do xD

With my whole load out being cat bases I will always be using the dalokohs bar reskin, the fish cake. I even renamed it breakfast… I’m coming for you next FishStick

In defense of the Dalokohs bar... _it's tasty._

I’m glad that this topic is being brought to light, the dolakoh’s bar has always been a gem in rough. So glad about awareness being spread

I like using the Dalokohs when playing as a support heavy. Being able to toss a small medkit at your allies more often really helps with countering fire, bleeding and saving them trips to dispensers.

The best strategy for the dolokahs is using it with the brass beast. The health buff raises the threshold for you to get the brass beast’s damage resistance buff that heavy gets when below half health. This makes you an absolute tank and will give you much more health than your enemies will realize. Choclate+brass beast gives you enough health to WIN A MINIGUN DUEL WITH ANOTHER HEAVY WHEN THEY HAVE A MEDIC AND YOU DON’T. This plays to the brass beasts strongsuits: killing other heavies and their medics, killing sentries and engies, and killing groups of enemies the underestimate you. I seriously think the brass beast is good enough to warrant a “in defense of the brass beast” episode.

Suggested Dalokohs bar fix: turn the eating animation into Heavy shoving the whole bar into his mouth in one go, with just a single "NOM" sound effect. Plays in just over a second, making it easier to snack on the go.

I got the Fishcake recently and it made me appreciate the Dalokohs Bar a lot more

Fsoas: Boy, I sure do love the GRU + Chocolate bar combo Also Fsoas removing the combo on the rebalance server: Fuck you, I do what I want

Oh yeah I have been waiting for your video on my favorite Heavy secondary.

Think it was mentioned in the video, but another thing about the chocolate bar I like is you can be much, much more liberal about sharing with teammates due to the fast recharge rate, incredibly useful if medics are few and far between.

Chocolate? Did you say... chocolate?

The bar is my favorite, not just because i have a strange one, but because the last time i actually played the game, we were in the middle of the Bot Crisis. You could use the bar to survive a headshot and find somewhere the bots couldnt shoot through (before they could shoot through walls) After we got to the "Nowhere is Safe" chapter of the Bot Crisis I bought a Strange Vaccinator.

Seeing you defend this was quite the surprise. A welcome one though.

"You don't want to eat it unless you absolutley have to" Medic at 4:01 : "Am I a joke to you?"

Seeing the Kyogre in the intro made my day. No one ever acknowledges the big whale lad so seeing other people even acknowledge him just makes me happy

One thing to be aware of as Heavy though: Unlike the Sandwich where picking up a Small Healthpack to recharge the Sandvich and Buffalo Steak Sandvich is a net positive, the same cannot be said for the Second Banana/Dalokahs Bar. You can turn smalls into mediums with the first two, but anything above a Small is a Net Negative when recharging if you intend to share the stuff. So, just be wary of that.

Honestly cool to see a video on this. Dalokhos Bar has always been my go to pick for a heavy food item whenever I choose one. Still prefer the shotguns tho in personal preference but that Dalokhos bar comes in clutch a lot quicker than you think.

That sniper killbinding after catching you eat at point blank is peak TF2 though 3:18

Heavy weapons guy and the Shokolad Factory.

In my experience, the chocolate has a lot of sinergy with the Natascha since then dalokohs makes it so that the 20% resistance kicks in sooner! I found out that you can survive 4 direct pipes or 2 quickscopes + 1 bodyshot if revved up

And then there's x10 chocolate. That is a different kind of chocolate.

I love the Dalokohs bar. I use it and the Brass Beast to effectively be an obstacle

There's also a neat little bit of use when paired with the brass beast, which makes it even stronger still on defensive plays

the +50 health has saved me a few times when there was no medic around and I had to shoot multyple people at once. I often ended up surviving with 20 or less health. it is also good when dealing with demomen since they need to land all 4 of their shots.

for some reason I really like the chocolate texture when used as a background also video quiet