[TF2] MORE Weapons with Weird Niches 

The Red Tape Recorder also has a niche where it is slightly better against Engie nests than the stock sapper, since it can at least downgrade a couple buildings and force minor progress for nest busting (compared to the stock sapper dealing half the sentry's health and it just being healed away immediately), and six level 2 sentries are considerably easier to take out than six level 3 sentries.

The Red Tape Recorder actually has something to note that I have had happen a few times. Because it takes so long t, sap a building, if you die before the building you sapped dies, the Red Tape Recorder will usually just finish sapping just as you respawn, and if you have the Diamondback, you can get a free crit for something you did before you died.

I have had people genuinely just forget the Atomizer minicrits while airborne and question if I was cheating.

An atomizer mini-crit does precisely 5 damage more than a regular bat swing, making the whole piranha scout gimmick almost entirely useless.

6:00 That FaN jump can let you consistently climb the 2Fort grate across spawn or jump back to the ground level from the sewers.

I actually use the red tape recorder on defense. If BLU has a battle engi, you can sap his mini sentry which will take forever to be destroyed, forcing them to either unsap it or wait for it to be destroyed. This is even better if they have the frontier justice. They see the mini sentry as disposable so they won't even bother to unsap it.

The Short Circuit lets you blast jump in very specific places on certain maps. Uncle Dane did a whole video on it a while ago, but it could be a fun thing to mention. Great video!

I'll never forget the feeling when I accidentally discovered the extra high FaN jump and immediately started looking for more vertical climbs to start catching people off guard from below

Even though I have the most amount of hours on Scout, I did not know about that FaN jump interaction, thats really neat and I guess explains why Ive seen the fan more these days

Red tape actually has two more niche use cases. And here's a few more quirks of others weapons. It can deny eureka effect engineers from teleporting to their teleporter exit while it's being sapped which they can normally do when it's being sapped by a normal sapper, and sapping a building as it's being redeployed both sets it to level 1 and if the sapper isn't removed can destroy the building incredibly quickly. So if you see an engineer moving his buildings out you can de-cloak directly in front of him, sap his buildings and zig zag for a few moments before just leaving with their hard earned level 3 building poofed in a fraction of the time it would require to destroy otherwise. The short circuit for how controversial as it is can deal 30 to 45 damage consistently if it hits the ground after it hits an enemy. Dealing the 15 damage tick once or twice before hitting the ground which triggers another 15 damage tick, and on surfaces which move it can deal up to 60 damage where it ticks twice on an enemy before being destroyed by hitting a moving object which causes it to explode twice for some reason. Also lets you deal consistently 45 damage to anyone next to a payload cart. Machina deals enough damage with a fully charged headshot to kill an overhealed heavy with natasha, brass beast, or with a bullet vac on him with out a bubble and consistently lets you make rocket jumping soldiers, sticky jumping demos, trimping demoknights, and jet packing pyros crater or die to fall damage with a full charged body shot. It also one shots light classes overhealed with the quick fix. Or just medics with the vac who are healing someone with out a bubble. Force A nature getting more height then normal is actually really easy and doesn't require exactly a 45 degree angle and is quite lenient, furthermore it's best done with a running start so it can transition your forward momentum into upwards momentum which even lets you make it out of 2fort sewers with some pratice. It can also be done in reverse with a lot of downwards moment and turning it into forwards momentum on maps with a lot of verticality like thunder mountain last or hightower when shooting behind you at a 45 degree angle when falling. Boston basher and by extension 3 rune blade can be used for jumping which can be extended by crouching jumping and swinging in a short time frame, importantly, a jump and crouch, not a c-tap. If done right one swing can get you higher then a doubble jump, like through the vents/grate, over the fence on sawmill. The sandman and wrap assassin bug still hasn't been fixed which let you get consistent crits on their projectiles with the right set up. It means the sand man and cleaver combo still works on light classes and the wrap assasian is even more powerful then it already is. (Which already deals more damage then a Boston basher hit with out crits if the bobble/ornament hits directly and kills light classes in combination with a cleaver hit consistently if they both hit directly.) If done with a wrap assassin crit it can even kill a medic from full health if they don't find health. (Set up is using a sand man ball in spawn then changing classes back and forth until you get one that crits, then all you have to do is swing once then your next bobble or ball will always crit until you change classes. Don't ask how but this actually persists across servers and map changes so you can set this up in a community server with random crits on then swap to a casual match. If you only select scout the bug transfers over.) Though it's hard to pull off and is more of a damage number thing, one fan o war hit and a flying guillotine hit will kill a light class if they don't get any health in time. And I do mean *any* health as even the passive health regeneration from the cozy camper can save their life and on 2fort their resupply is so close they can reach it before bleeding to death as they die on the last tick of the bleed. It's more so a trick to get snipers to panic and delay their death for as long as possible rather then an actual strategy but it is funny. Though, flying guillotine into Boston basher is more consistent and kills faster and you can use the Flying gullotine first which is harder to hit and then melee them once before running away.

I actually have another rare niche for the RTR, that being it can actually destroy buildings (technically) faster than the Stock Sapper. Once an engineer puts down a building if it's sapped immediately, it'll be destroyed too quick to break the sapper itself. Hilariously useful for when engies are moving their buildings as it forces them to place the buildings before attacking you.

Oh hey! I commented that bit about the Red Tape! Wasn't aware it was *even more* specific to just level 1 dispensers tho. Goes to show how often I get my dispensers sapped by the red tape lol. Still, thanks for covering it!

Extremely niche charge trick: if you want to land a crit swing on someone who is too close to normally land one, you could jump use the base jumper and then charge because the air speed limit applies to the charge so you end up with this really strange airborne slow charge state

The Sandman has a niche for being great against Demoknights since the slow effect can cancel their charge and also prevent charging in the first place. The slow effect can also allow a Scout to run away from a maximum-head Eyelander Demoknight. The Sandman also stuns still on moonshots in MVM, which can allow you to stunlock giants if you have the correct upgrades.

The reason the chocolate bar interacts like that is because there was a glitch where by re-supply spamming while quick swapping and eating the choclate bar (quick swap between glove and bar) you could gain infinite hp there was no hard cap and it would just go up forever, however once the hp went down which it did naturally it would not come back.

I love the brast beast, if you play with it for a while, then you switch to another minigun you will feel heavy is like really fast. On top of that there's nothing more scarier than finding a fully reved up brast beast heavy at the other side of a corner.

RU-vid really shoving this one at me early

Brass beast resistance is insane. I recently had a pocket medic with a vaccinator on defense while I had the brass beast. During the other heavy's full 8 seconds of stock Uber, they could only deal about 50% of my HP (then died when their Uber ran out)

6:15 it doesn't have to be precisely 45 degrees at all, it only needs to be approximate, it's more in the technique of crouch jumping at the right moment, you get basically the same result every time, heck you can even look forwards and it'll work

I really like the red tape recorders niiche that lets it instantly destroy buildings that have been just deployed. The animation of the sentry deploying is the same animation that the red tape recorder is reversing. So if zapped at the moment the sentry is deployed the sentry just instantly unexists before they can react. This can be easily achieved by uncloaking infront of an engineer that is moving their buildings. They will more then likely panick and deploy there building on the spot to get out their shot gun giving you a perfect window to zap it with the recorder.

the pyro can be a shark; the scout can be a piranha.

2:45 When Jungle Inferno just dropped this interaction was so buggy that it allowed Heavies to achieve infinite health.

Another fun tf2 niche I just never see is how the neon annihilator can crit on milked and jarated opponents. However, you’d probably need either a friend or luck so then you can have a Sydney sleeper sniper so then you can optimize your sub-optimal strategy.

Another niche use of the GRU is to lower your health with it just enough so the banana fills you to full health instead of only 200

All of heavy's lunchbox items also increase in strange count if eaten in training mode. Just like the banners

The red-tape recorder can instantly destroy buildings that are just placed down after being moved, the stock sapper drains from the building’s full health, the red-tape recorder instantly destroys it

Strange mediguns will also count uber's used in MVM.

Well I didn't have the nicest day but after watching this video it just got better. Thanks opal

It’s a shame The Diamondback does so much damage. I’d like to say that The Enforcer helps in the niche instance where an injured enemy realizes you’re a Spy, but having emergency crits in hand fills that role even better. :(

YES! He covered my favorite item combo! Bar plus GRUE is actually great

Well damn, I didn't even know the atomizer did mini crits on airborne opponents. Good video, just like the last one.

the enforcer has a very nice niche of dropping Vaccinator Medics and Wrangler Sentries.

1:08 a fully upgraded Targe Knight can do this as well!

6:27 "extremely strict angle" sounds like a skill issue if im being honest

COOL :). Now Heavy is no longer a raid boss :D. Red Tape Recorder Spies: ARISE MY BRETHERN! OUR TIME IS NIGH!

honestly videos like these are so fun to watch. i'd be down to watch them for even non-tf2 games if you have any plans for that.

FAN jumps also require forward momentum. I think this is because the game scales the knockback velocity vector so that it will completely cancel your horizontal velocity. The higher your horizontal velocity, the larger the knockback vector is scaled, and consequently the larger the vertical component of that vector is. I've tried this on jump servers with the concussion grenade plugin, and a 45 degree shot while flying extremely fast horizontally gives insane vertical height off the jump. Also 45 degrees isn't super important, most jumps are makeable without extreme precision. The only big one I can think of that's actually tough to pull off is jumping to the roof of suijin on the side where there's the small health pack. If you go from the ground it's a tough jump but you can always just go from the platform that has the pack to make it easy.

The Caber does the most melee damage and can also one shot heavy.

You can also farm strange mediguns in MvM, as long as you pop it attach to somebody too

Fun fact The highest damage RESISTANCE used ti be the dead ringer It could survive 3 backstabs 1 normal 2 2nd while DR 3rd killed the DR invisi spy. Ive done it several times pre nerf / rework It actually activated when you jumped off cliffs or ledges in insta kill areas. Then you died a second later lol

“specific breed of brain rot” Agreed

GRU and Dalokah bar are so good they made 3 billion health Heavy possible

for making use of FaN jumps the angle isnt nearly as narrow as it seems

The Stock Fist and The huntsman can hit people where it really shouldn't for example a gap if you can snipe through it you can use the taunt the enemy player

not to be that guy but i wouldnt really call the force a nature thing difficult at all, you just have to know about the 45 degree angle thing. ive never been very good at precise inputs but i can fan jump properly every time

Guys, I know it sounds bad but frontier justice is just a diamondback but a little worse (or better, im not sure yet)

this is sick thanks opal

I just love watching tf2 videos so ty for the content bro 😊

As Delfy demonstrated, the RTR can kill buildings that are being redeployed almost instantly. Not SUPER helpful, but funny as shit.

Wow I’m glad to see this game still has a great fanbase

MvM mentioned!!!

1:16 Standing here I realize You were just like me Trying to make history But whos to judge The right from wrong And when your guard is down I think we'll both agree That violence breeds violence And in the end it has to be this way.

I’m really enjoying the videos in your channel. Nice content.

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its to early for dad jokes Teal

Of course heavy gets killed instantly by random crits, that's not really a niche.

With the dead ringer you can disguise as a teammate to fake their death Helpful when that annoying scout keeps focusing your medic

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Why does he say “Fan” when talking about the Force of Nature?

that would be your mother

The reserve shooter allows pyro to minicrit soldiers using a reflected rocket essentially giving them an instant kill combo on any overconfident soldier. And the deadringer allows you to strafe on rockets using any knife (including an non health boosted kunai) even allowing you to midair trick stab the soldier who gave you the rocket, causing his computer to instantly uninstall not just tf2 but the entirety of steam as well.

I am Pyro. I have become real.

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I literally watched an hour long video by the king of demoknight that disproves your claymore portion of the video. Time to delete the vid

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