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Let's talk about motorcycle cornering technique this week on MCrider. Why do riders crash in corners? What can we do to improve our cornering on a motorcycle?
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@MCrider
@MCrider Год назад
Here is an interesting fun fact...the music used in both crash compilations at the start of this video was created by AI specifically for this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9MLdTHd24Sg.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9MLdTHd24Sg.html Aside from when I created the video that is the first time the music used in both clips has EVER been heard. In the AI tool you set the mood, tempo, instruments, and length of the song and the AI tool spits out several choices that fit your request. ...and now you know. Here are the links used in today's video: MCrider Hats & Keychains: www.MCrider.com/hat www.MCrider.com/Corner www.MCrider.com/TrailBrake www.MCrider.com/Corner-Tips www.MCrider.com/Corner-Explained
@chris2790
@chris2790 10 месяцев назад
As interesting and neat as this is, AI is a race to the bottom for society.
@lynnsample4549
@lynnsample4549 Год назад
Two items that have worked well for me over the years. Head and eyes up. If you can't see the exit, ensure you're going slow enough to make a forever curve.
@torquer9669
@torquer9669 Год назад
Good advice. I also like the concept of 'just slow down'. Works for me and keeps me within my skill level. ☮
@MCrider
@MCrider Год назад
Yes it does!
@muhumuzalucky5589
@muhumuzalucky5589 Год назад
Representing Riders from Uganda. Thanks for the great knowledge that you are imparting on our safe longevity and pleasure on the two wheel babyz.
@boscodog4358
@boscodog4358 Год назад
Excellent video Kevin In my elderly years I have become paranoid about cornering. Mainly because of my spine and neck becoming stiff.
@jacksgl777
@jacksgl777 Год назад
God has definitely saved me a time or two. I remember early on riding with a group and in keeping up didn’t take a corner well with my Dyna low rider. I swear I was 1/4 inch from going off the road around a curve telling myself you got to go faster (in order to lean enough and lean more than comfortable) in order to get through this curve or you are going to die (or not be feeling good at minimum). Somehow God got me through it.
@muriuwangai3617
@muriuwangai3617 Год назад
I listen to this content alot from Kenya and has sharpened my skills especially counter stearing. It's soo magical I came to discover.
@judeschexnyder8008
@judeschexnyder8008 Год назад
Fear based cornering crash - happened to me. That's how most road speed cornering crashes occur, although many riders fail to admit that fact.
@tomyoung3087
@tomyoung3087 Год назад
Lol. Thanks Kevin, I watched your cornering videos a while ago, and finally understood what Trail braking really is. Before that I had no idea, I had heard of it but for some reason the term Trail braking made me think people were referring to the rear brake , maybe that’s just me but I find the term misleading. Anyway after watching your videos I was educated and began trying it out. It really does work well in certain situations, usually when I mess up in entry speeds in corner, which is not often as I am by no means a speed demon on the road,LoL,but we are all human and make mistakes. It really helped me out then.
@b05296
@b05296 Год назад
A million years ago, a road racer friend of mine taught me to brake to compress the front suspension and then lean the bike over maintaining the suspension compression while easing off the brake. Before learning this I was pogoing the front suspension up and down every time I entered a corner, not smooth at all. I never knew that this was trail braking. But it felt really smooth and fast. Like you said, if you're carrying too much speed into the corner, you can always brake a little harder, brake a little longer, or put a little more countersteering in.
@michaellaughery6411
@michaellaughery6411 Год назад
Love the content, always good and helpful. I hear your voice when out performing the things you talk about.
@TennRides
@TennRides Год назад
Great video, Kevin. One of the most misleading topics I hear when brand new riders ask a "seasoned rider" with 3-5 years of experience, hahaha, is using the front brake in a curve. When they say it is absolutely fine to use the front break in a twisty, with no further clarification, I cringe. I always picture that new rider entering a curve too fast for their skill level and then grabbing the front brake too hard, and go high side into a tree, because that "seasoned rider" said they could use the front brake. Glad you cleared that up for them. Always a thumbs up.
@brettcreech3490
@brettcreech3490 Год назад
Thanks Kevin your front wheel is like a gyroscope.😎
@chrisrestifo7010
@chrisrestifo7010 Год назад
I've been watching many of your videos Kevin. As I have some motorcycle experience, but haven't rode one on many years I consider the tips and videos a good start refreshing my knowledge. The local college offers a MSC as well , which I plan on extending. I also drive a heavy truck for a living. What I have noticed is that the proper skills to employ are very close with both bikes and trucks. Braking into the apex and accelerating out, looking into the turn, scanning the road for hazards, conveying your presence, escape routes, being aware of your surroundings etc.. not to mention a healthy dose of common sense! Thank you for what you do!!! Your efforts are much appreciated!
@jayjackson597
@jayjackson597 Год назад
one thing I learned is , the fork angle has a lot to do with how a bike behaves in a turn, on my old Honda Ascot, it had more angle to the fork legs, like the dirt bike it was based on. so that gave me more room for error, and being mostly a dirt rider at the time it was easier for me to adapt because it had been a long time since I had a street bike. so a while back I decided to get a street bike again after not riding street for a number of years and I got a sport touring bike. the angle on the forks is much more vertical than my Ascot , therefore the steering input happens a lot quicker and I almost stood it up in a corner and ran it off the road. the more vertical the rake of the forks, the closer the front axle is to the pivot of your triple clamps, the faster your input happens, after a while I adapted and used a little more subtle inputs to the bars. you ever hear someone refer to the rake and trail? you ever look at a chopper with the front wheel way out there? it seems like when they move the forks back and forth the wheel looks like it's just laying over rather than turning, then you look at a sport bike the wheel actually looks like it's turning left and right, if you project a line from the end of the forks to the ground, then do a vertical line from the front axle to the ground, the longer that distance is, the slower the steering, this is what they are talking about when they refer to the rake and trail. just a little suggestion for anyone getting a new bike, might be something to look for
@eddcurry1245
@eddcurry1245 Год назад
Important information.
@CrusaderGeneral
@CrusaderGeneral Год назад
Great info brother. You are the mentor that many riders need
@chonkyb3134
@chonkyb3134 Год назад
Great video! Will be ordering soon !
@brucesantacory1390
@brucesantacory1390 Год назад
i've been riding and racing since i was 5 never understood why people have the issues they do in corners, i watch the video's here on you tube on many of the channels like yours, and a newbe i get, but i have watched some people with 20 years experience run off the edge of the road or lowside like the while streetglide in the beginning of your video, What improved my turning was several MSF classes, but also prospecting and joining a Motorcycle Club you'll learn to ride or Die in a club riding 70MPH handlebar to handlebar for 100 miles at a shot, it's not for the weak at heart, my prospect time i was white knuckle riding more often than not, by the time i was patched it was what it was, but it gave me a hard core lesson in motorcycle control. lol
@AnotherBangaTV
@AnotherBangaTV Год назад
Facts! Listen to this man. I learned my lesson the hard way.
@Scottie8740
@Scottie8740 Год назад
There is a motorcycle training facility near my home. Their course is in a wide open shopping center parking lot and I don’t think they have exclusive rights to the area. I think I’ll stop in and ask if I can stop in and do the box while they aren’t holding classes. Think I remember the hard right from a full stop causing me difficulties during the original training course. I don’t think that’ll be difficult for me anymore but it would be interesting to see how I would do now. Unfortunately, I don’t see any advanced training courses in my area.
@jmead6121
@jmead6121 Год назад
awesome MC Rider ....@ 66 yrs ole I still Ride almost daily & never herd about trail breaking & or Counter steering till last few years when I discovered You Tube ....but after i learned the terminology ..Ive been doing both from my natural instinct I guess Trail Breaking & also counter steering but i usually lean into the corner not by pushing but on the bars but i always seem to Pull of the opposite bar ..aks same difference I guess but that just me
@ddekeno1
@ddekeno1 Год назад
Enjoyed this, and thanks for the links
@wadeblake3451
@wadeblake3451 Год назад
I must say Kevin this is one of the more informative and comprehensive aka eclectic discussions on cornering I ve come across. Thank you. IMO the key factor in successful cornering is a combination of technique and confidence. Your comments on instructional track riding/practice is right on. It’s hard to gain the necessary confidence without the practice. I try to take at least one high level training program each year in addition to regularly going around cones in parking lots. The two track based instructional programs I highly recommend are California Superbike and Yamaha Championship Riding School.
@theprodigalstranger5259
@theprodigalstranger5259 Год назад
i feel bad for the guy on the white Harley. He has become the new downhill skier on the wide world of sports intro.
@TheP47thunderbolt
@TheP47thunderbolt Год назад
Great video Kevin. Great lesson and given in a very tasteful way.
@MCrider
@MCrider Год назад
Thank you kindly!
@douglasradowick508
@douglasradowick508 Год назад
Kevin, thank-you SO MUCH for the verbal AND visual explanations of SLPR and trail braking. Your visual "display" brings clearity to your verbal explanation!👍🏍️ Great work done( 4:28-5:08 mark)! Now to finish watching the video. Doug🏍️👍🐻🧸🤓😇
@roberthansen9876
@roberthansen9876 Год назад
Whatever you want to call it, you should be comfortable with braking in corners when you need it. It is normal to be afraid of touching the brakes in corners when you first start riding, but if you are riding at normal speeds, you have a lot of brake left even while cornering. For example, even at a lean angle of 30 degrees, which is quite a bit of lean and generally the limit of most bikes other than sport bikes, you still have 80% of your braking force left. What you never want to do is grabbing the brake too fast. That applies whether you are going straight or in a corner.
@brianlittell6322
@brianlittell6322 Год назад
Love your videos , keep up the good work. Wish you kept your Goldwing..lol What ever you ride . Is good with me. I love you emblem on your hats. Just not big on the hat...Them big ole plastic adjustment is out dated like us... I'm 57 Anyway. I would like to have one but on a stretchy band. Small , medium, & Large....much nicer to wear backwards when riding and doesn't blow off like the old school ones....just something to ponder on......I'm sure you sell them the way they are .... EVERYONE CAN WISH
@algee0218
@algee0218 Год назад
That beginning music is the chef's kiss of intros!
@ronladuke7235
@ronladuke7235 Год назад
The value of trail braking becomes very evident when mountain riding, especially in downhill corners. Slow look press and roll it is easy to run wide on downhill curves?
@Apollo949
@Apollo949 Год назад
I never realised I did trail braking until I saw your video about it. Only later did I realise that I do use that technique, but I usually use the press and roll method about 90% of the time.
@DavidSmith-br4vt
@DavidSmith-br4vt Год назад
Happy Friday Kevin thank you so much for the information you give to us and keep reminding us so that we will rideSafer hopefully take care have a blessed weekend
@jimfarnell5813
@jimfarnell5813 Год назад
Great video, Kevin… in a future episode could you talk about choosing proper cornering lines? I know late entry & late apex based on surface conditions are important in better navigating corners… Here in East Tennessee I see riders constantly enter early & therefore apex early, making an otherwise “medium” turn very tight & unnecessarily difficult… another tip I would add is use head & eyes with proper breaking while driving your car/truck… practice ‘til you get it right, keep practicing till you can’t get it wrong…
@topherdalrymple6535
@topherdalrymple6535 Год назад
Another great vidio Kevin. Thank you. See you on the road.
@rahowardjr
@rahowardjr Год назад
Yep the only time I have to trail break is if I am surprised by the corner! Pay attention out there everyone!
@dustinanderson7285
@dustinanderson7285 Год назад
East Texas has a whole bunch of corners baaabbbbyyyyyyy!!!!
@tokyo_orbit1625
@tokyo_orbit1625 Год назад
... another good video with needed info. Thank you Kevin.
@MCrider
@MCrider Год назад
Very welcome
@Scottie8740
@Scottie8740 Год назад
0:26 towards the house… that is unfortunate. Looks like they could hurt themselves trying to get that back up.
@pilotdane1
@pilotdane1 Год назад
KEVIN - I always watch EVERYTHING you put out. Really nice touch by including some videos of riders dropping their bike, or not making the corner. Perfect !!! - and it does NOT have to be "graphic" - If you know what I mean. Cheers !!!
@rogersmith5371
@rogersmith5371 Год назад
In my experience (over 250k/kms on a variety of bikes) and from watching other riders there are a couple of factors that stand out as causes of problems when cornering. The most obvious one is failure to ride to the conditions of the road, the weather and the bike you're on. The second is over confidence in one's own ability and the bike's ability. That leads to not understanding some of the physics - you can't properly brake when the bike is already in the corner or curve - braking works best when the bike is going in a straight line so apply the brakes (front and rear) and change gear before you go into the corner or curve. Slow down as you approach not when you're in the curve. It follows from the first two points that this can lead to taking the wrong line in the corner or curve and then applying the wrong response to correct or the correct response but too late. Speed is always an issue - going into the corner too fast because of points I made above.
@johnnyboots481
@johnnyboots481 Год назад
That bagger in beginning looked good until the engine guards hit the pavement and created a pivot point. One of my fears when I lean,I scraped mine once and lucky it didn't lift wheels off the ground. I've even thought about removing the guard so I can stop mentally worrying about leaning.
@josephcoloso2847
@josephcoloso2847 Год назад
Hope we in the Philippines can also buy your products especially your amazing Caps.
@chickenfriedrice2932
@chickenfriedrice2932 Год назад
Thank you so much Uncle Kevin!
@MCrider
@MCrider Год назад
You bet!
@evanb479
@evanb479 Год назад
thanks kev 👍
@michelelord9438
@michelelord9438 Год назад
Thank you again for a good video! I would have like to hear when and where trail-breaking is a poor choice. My experience is when suddenly the tarmac turns to gravel in a corner, or corners are grimey, you would have had a better chance with the first technique explained... When I ride in the countryside and know that there tend to be more dirt on the road, or those roads turn to dirt roads unexpectedly I tend to adhere to the first method. However in town, when traffic is also denser and faster I prefer trail-breaking. Does it make sense?
@glennmiddleton5634
@glennmiddleton5634 Год назад
Counter steering.really Important to understand. Bikes have a big gyroscope that wants to stay put. Pressing on the handlebar causes the front wheel to lean the bike. Try demonstrating a kids toy gyroscope. Thanks, Kevin.
@cjd954ify
@cjd954ify 11 месяцев назад
I ride my 2016 CVO ultra probably way more aggressive than most and I definitely tend to use trail braking most of the time.... I also use more throttle to push myself to the outside more coming out if I dove in too deep
@murraehaynes3182
@murraehaynes3182 Год назад
Search, setup, smooth
@DwnRange
@DwnRange Год назад
Question here: I'll be 69 yo in a few days, was a 24/7/365 day a year rider of what dad affectionately called "a leg-breakers" for over 35+ years in Houston, Texas - that said I retired in 2013, moved back to the family farm to care for my parents and other than taking my grand-kids for for rides on country roads my riding days slowly diminished - the last time I rode my old 2005 Kawa 1600cc Nomad 900# cruiser was around 2020 on a quick-trip to town for some parts and I first noticed the actual 900# weight and my lack confidence/upper shoulder strength, (ie... diminished skill level) and it made me very uncomfortable feeling my age. I have not ridden since. When do we get too old to ride a big ole leg-breaker?
@thedude2601
@thedude2601 Год назад
Tire air pressure has been a concern for me in cornering. I met a Michelin rep when I bought my PR 6's last Fall and she knew all about riders, like me who add a few extra pounds of air if they're not going to be riding for awhile and significant changes in altitude or temperature (90 degrees in Aspen) that increase tire air pressure enough to keep the tires from optimum gripping in the corners. Always interesting and informative, thank you.
@roystenzel80
@roystenzel80 Год назад
How much different is it with linked ABS when using front brake which includes rear brake? I set my suspension when I begin to enter curve but I’m off the brake sooner then your description.
@andrespabloviacava7861
@andrespabloviacava7861 Год назад
Hi, sometime I used a little pressure on the rear break and at the same time a little more throttle and so we get more traction and make it easy to lean more
@tomrox8921
@tomrox8921 Год назад
see you on the road
@snatr
@snatr Год назад
Thanks!
@MCrider
@MCrider Год назад
Wow! Thank you Gary!
@snatr
@snatr Год назад
@@MCrider Thank you Kevin 😉
@jimraley6340
@jimraley6340 Год назад
"Patches?! We don' need no steenkeen patches!" ;) For any Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid fans....
@berkayguner
@berkayguner Год назад
12:17 - 50 pencing 😄👍
@userXm7-xm7bz8ki4s
@userXm7-xm7bz8ki4s Год назад
Dallas Area, any recommendations on classes or dirt riding training?
@MrkBO8
@MrkBO8 Год назад
What do you think of your xtool?
@milodebruin4821
@milodebruin4821 Год назад
What is the bike in the thumbnail?
@aldolajak1267
@aldolajak1267 Год назад
Even before watching the video, I'm going to speculate as to the cause of cornering crashes, and posit on how to avoid them. For me, it comes down to: Stay OFF the front brake, and use the rear brake !!!!!!
@barryweaver8833
@barryweaver8833 Год назад
No. 1 reason for running off the road is because nobody really knows "COUNTER - STEERING" bottom line. Every time I watch it happen on a video is the rider turning the front wheel the wrong way. Trail braking is also good but mostly when cornering really fast. Funny how everyone you talk to about counter steering they will say ah yeah I know, but then run off the road in front of you, so no they didn't.
@beepbop6697
@beepbop6697 Год назад
0:46 the most used Harley crash video. That guy is famous for being so smooth during the crash. 😂
@allencampbell3195
@allencampbell3195 Год назад
"You can't go into a corner too slow and you can't come out too fast": An old saying that's pretty close to the truth, wouldn't you say?
@williampurvis3927
@williampurvis3927 Год назад
What! you got front brakes!? all kidding aside,Sir you are a credit to your gender.i take heed in all of your wisdom. Thank you....
@thereplacementfordisplacement
@thereplacementfordisplacement 10 месяцев назад
Trail braking should be natural not something special. Practice braking, you should be able to use front or rear brake whenever you want, no goofy rules. If you see gravel or something you will have skills to get the most out of braking before letting off to clear gravel or slick spot.
@defenestrationfan
@defenestrationfan Год назад
Gravel is another good reason riders crash in corners!
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@OnenThomas-cw7py 3 месяца назад
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