That Hideous Strength: C.S. Lewis's Prophetic Warning against the Abuse of Science 

Yeah, they are called children of satan

Improving with Flausbert: Ancient Principles Do you think that is possibly common practice with intellectuals as well?

@@dave.h4075 yeah sure, the people that put the most effort into learning and understanding are somehow the ignorant people. and the people who just watch TV and consume magically have insights that can't be learned in books. OK. show me a chessmaster who never played. Who was just magically good. Or a basketball player who was good without playing. It is a fantasy of the less educated that they somehow have better insights than people who have put in the work.

​@@proactivex of course they are. Because they are only learning about a single thing. Think about this for a minute. If you only ever drive to work, you never actually get out of the car and go into to do the job, you drive there from home over and over, you might know the route better than anyone else at the job, but you don't know anything else about the job. I'm a very real way, you are more ignorant than other people.

@@proactivex There are ditches on both sides of the road.

I'm nearly in full agreement with you, the caveat being that the necessary background/education that it takes to scrutinize scientifically-derived assertions is not easily acquired by casual reading. This may sound elitist, but it is also realistic.

@@gracenotes5379 My problem is how we're not even allowed to criticize scientists making judgments about things completely outside their field, like physicists and their lapdogs making philosophical judgments about religion and shouting down anyone who doesn't favor state atheism as a dumb hick.

@@gracenotes5379 With that in mind, if even a casual reader can ask "if your claim is true, than how come blah blah blah?" and that questioning person be censored, de-platformed and treated like a, well, a terrorist or an idiot, THEN I would say something is seriously out of whack. Surely there can be little threat to at least addressing the questions--which are obvious enough to be formed when a relatively uneducated, but nonetheless commonsense, rational person sees contradictions in the narrative and "the Science" as it's put forth. The not only reluctance to entertain any sort of "questioning" and "skepticism" of "the Science" (as we see now, in 2023 and near history of the past few years) but also the aggression with which questioning of "the Science" is met by both gov't and scientists acting as spokespersons, by media and professionals in related fields, is DISCONCERTING to say the least. And when informed, educated in the field or specialty of science being questioned are also censored, de-platformed and treated as a threat to "the Science" THEN we really, really are in deepest excrement as a world, as a society, as a culture. When debate is seen as a threat, Lewis's fears are certainly coming true. Debate is shut down. Skepticism is being ferreted out by algorithms. We are told to "trust the Science." But by no means, question "the Science"--or else. We've already passed the line that would separate what it might become and what it could become, and have shifted into that new reality of what it has become, and what it is daily BECOMING. "Science" as a "thing" was based on theories, constantly being tested, questioned and often scrapped, as the questions are informed by new discoveries, and then new theories have to be come up with. To be forbidden to question "the Science"--whether a king or a knave or a scientist--means we are now living in the dystopia Lewis feared. And "the Science" we are commanded to put our faith in isn't really even "scientific" if it can no longer be tested and questioned and met with skepticism. It should never be a question of FAITH or trust! It's not religion! Or is it? I fear, with Lewis, as in That Hideous Strength, science used to further power, corporations, exploitation, greed, war. And scientists are bought and paid for, like everyone else in the scheme. A truly prescient book, but why not? The roots of what we are seeing now were already there and growing when Lewis wrote the book. The "types" of people who are behind what we are now seeing were there then.

Fauci should be in jail for lying to Congress and the American people about funding of gain-of-function research.

That's why Yahweh intervened at the Tower of Babel.

.... "Lucifer's" quest for Mankind. Freemasonry's Quest for Mankind....

Have you read the book, and the other two of which this is the last of the trilogy?

Eisenhower was smarter than people think he was. Just for the record, his fault was his failure to start making provisions for the large generation born after World War II. But anybody who wanted to do that would have been hamstrung by the Southern contingent in the Senate, who would do nothing because they knew that anything done would have to operate under the right to equal protection of the law. They promoted a self-serving constitutional theory which held that the federal government could act only under certain expressed powers. When they went along the interstate highway system, they insisted it be called the National Defense Highway System. When, after the trauma of Sputnik, they finally consented to some federal aid to education, they insisted the federal act to aid education be called the National Defense Education Act. Apart from his likely incognizance of the issue, Eisenhower would not have been able to act on the issue of expanding higher education and other related issues even if he had wanted to. About the only public program the South was willing to go along with that treated blacks and whites equally was Social Security. Unless you count also the military draft.

@@anonymike8280 Eisenhower was also involved with the elite.

That's....

That is so true and so profound!

@@howardking3601 yes sir it is !

I wish it was as straight forward as you write it, however it’s not. It’s about power, control and greed. Ask Einstein or Tesla or read about what they said. Look what happened to them both. They were attacked right and left. I mean look at Charles Darwin. He didn’t even believe the evolution he wrote about he admitted. All hypothetical. They want you to believe we cane from Apes. SMH.... we are still so primitive and until we reach a spiritual level within ourselves and not have our hidden agendas in the name of power, controls d greed we will never advance. I often think how awesome we would be without those people. Or if they spiritually awaken! Until then we must wait I guess till the stars realign...

Indeed..... Kristyn Getty's dad. 😊

Loooove John Lennox!

Didn't know that, thanks @Pasteghost 42

Only just finishing Perelandra, are you saying things get creepier than the un-man? Just want to know whether I should avoid reading it in the dark.

@@peterholden2016 (and anyone reading this two years later), you should definitely read it. But read it in daylight. Lewis is incisive and inspiring, and the material strikes a little too close to home for comfort.

@@peterholden2016 Did you read it? Cosmic Trilogy, among a handful of books I read again every few years. It's well time I read THS again, so applicable to what we are now going through. I think it's much worse than the book, as the technology is so advanced, and there's a global movement of evil now to be reckoned with. Though any of us will have to deal with it at the most mundane level of our own daily functioning, just as the characters in the book. If you read it two years ago, well, in the past two years, it's even more pertinent!

I completed my dissertation on this book, was captivated by it. How lucky you were to be in his company.

It's part of C.S. Lewis' space trilogy. Out of the Silent Planet, Perilandra, and That Hideous Strength. It can be read separately but there are references to the to the other books that may not make sense but don't detract from the story.

@@sammyairlines9307 I'm going to be horribly pedantic and correct a mistake I've made myself. Lewis would not have approved of the designation "The Space Trilogy." A large theme in Out of the Silent Planet is that the realm beyond our atmosphere is not empty space but the resonant heavens.

I've been thinking about re-reading That Hideous Strength because the current CCP Virus situation reminds of things in the book.

I found the introduction of Merlin, Logres and the rest confusing. But the book and the trilogy are enjoyable and thought provoking. If you can, you should read them in order.

You're in for such an adventure. It's one of my favourite books of all times. Good luck 👍

I have never heard the phrase, "Orwellian dystopia" being used as a descriptor for the times we live with such regularity. C. S. Lewis knew man because he knew himself and he knew God, as well as being a genius. He hung out with Tolkien and Orwell and used to share stories with each other. Did you know that Lewis, Tolkien and JFK all died on the same day? November 22, 1963 (I just read that!)

@@kirstyi7860 The specifics are what impressed me. In particular, this book depicts men who discuss the idea of "becoming" god. I believe there was one character who said it would be "one" individual who would scramble to the top. Its sort of the ultimate inversion of reality. Man takes his evolution myth to its logical extension. Instead of one God who is the beginning creating what is lesser, the lesser evolves into "god". Fascinating to watch the satanic inversion of reality unfold in front of your eyes, both in fiction and reality.

THS is the last book in the trilogy.

Of the 4200+ known religions, if I may respectfully, please ask.. which one are you referring to?

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@andy low unfourtunently ignorance is so common it mixes with everything including both christianity and athiesm. If I were to choose between christian scientsts and athiest scientists I would choose christian, for of the two only christianity demands truth and honesty above survival and wealth.