That Pedal Show - Using Drive & Preamp Pedals In Your Amp FX Loop

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In this episode Daniel and Mick explore the possibilities of using drives, boosts and preamps directly into your amplifier’s effects loop. For most amps, that means bypassing the front end (preamp) of the amplifier entirely and just hitting the power section from your pedalboard. Why would you want to do that? Well, you might not! But there are two scenarios in which we could see this working well…
First, let’s say that you have an amp that you like but don’t love. The cost of upgrading to something ‘better’ is too high, so you want to inject some new life and sounds into the old beast. This is worth trying.
Second, maybe you’re doing a lot of travelling and have to deal with rented amps. It’s very often a Fender Hot Rod, Twin or Marshall DSL, for example. By bypassing the amp’s front end in this way and just hitting the power section from your board, you maintain a little extra control of your sound. Interesting? Let’s see shall we…
Pedals In This Episode…
• TC Spark Mini Booster (loop 1)
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• Kingsley Page Booster (loop 6)
www.kingsleyamplifiers.com
• Kingsley Maiden D (loop 7)
www.kingsleyamplifiers.com
• Kingsley Page DS (loop 8)
www.kingsleyamplifiers.com
• Free The Tone Heat Blaster HB-2 (loop 5)
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2g9GQc1
• Vemuram Jan Ray (loop 4)
www.vemuram.com
• T-Rex Room Mate Reverb (loop 10)
Discontinued, only available used
• TheGigRig Three2One
bit.ly/2fW8XJP
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
Intro and housekeeping - 00:00 - 2:22
• Background and context for today’s vid -: 2:23 - 5:15
• Why do you want to run drives straight into the FX loop anyway? - 5:15
• Today’s amps? - 7:25 (clean amps sound at 7:56)
Into the front of the amps…
• Kingsley Maiden into front of amps - 8:26
• Page Boost into Maiden - 10:53
• TC Spark into Maiden - 12:38
• Page DS after Maiden - 13:16 (playing at 13:58)
Into the FX loop return
• Explaining the loop return option - 18:00
• What does an electric guitar into the amp’s effects loop return sound like? - 19:41
• Guitar into Maiden into FX loop return of Two-Rock - 19:56
• Guitar into Hamstead front end, then FX loop return - 20:49
• Guitar into Maiden into FX loop return of Hamstead - 21:26
• Maiden into FX loop returns of both amps - 22:35
• Maiden into Page DS into FX loop return of both amps - 25:08
• What about ordinary pedals into the FX loop return? - 33:43
• TC Spark Booster in FX loop return of both amps - 34:40 (and with Maiden - 34:50)
• Free The Tone Heat Blaster into FX loop return - 35:20 (and with Maiden - 35:37)
• Vemuram Jan Ray as above - 35:56
Amps in this episode
• Two Rock Studio Pro 35 head through Victory V212VC cabinet (Celestion G12M 65 Creamback speakers)
• Hamstead Artist 20+RT through 1 x 12 Celestion Alnico Cream speaker
Guitars in this episode
• PRS DGT - watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2d8Xo2I
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
• Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dbwbvS
• 1961 Gibson Les Paul (SG) Junior
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@PPIMV 7 лет назад

Thanks so much Mick and Dan! - great job! ....on a side note, a lot of players also use preamp pedals for recording and going direct...with a good power amp/speaker simulator of course...like the Two Notes Torpedo CAB....Cheers, Simon

@druienmartin8043 7 лет назад

Eric Gales runs a tube preamp into a solid state power amp, sounds killer!

@richieworrell 7 лет назад

In my mind, it's not officially Friday until I watch That Pedal Show. NOW it's a Friday morning.

@simonlees2848 7 лет назад

due to timezones i dont see it till saturday morning unless im up past midnight

@TheDogPa 7 лет назад

My Friday morning starts around 1pm! Always ready and waiting for me in California.

@MrDeaweber 7 лет назад

Dan's tone with the sg at the end of the video was absolutely incredible. the tone Mick had just prior was a dream lead tone . those tones were standouts guys - thanks for doing this video it obviously turned out to be a great idea !

@phatman1478 7 лет назад

I have been refreshing my notifications for about an hour! Best part about Friday, other than it being Friday!

@byebyebeano8616 7 лет назад

Ahaha same here

@Megamando93 7 лет назад

Thanks for all the killer videos you guys do, it's what I look forward to every Friday morning before college classes.

@robholiday5370 7 лет назад

The pain in Dan's voice when realising there's a pedal he doesn't have! 😥😄

@livinthesound5182 7 лет назад

hehe :-)

@WhoWouldWantThisName 7 лет назад

I'll bet he does now.

@Tcflohr 7 лет назад

It's awesome you guys made this video. I just played my first backlined gig and didn't get on too well with the gear provided. Thanks for the content, surprisingly relevant for me this week.

@AS__77 7 лет назад

Best sounds you've ever gotten on this show. Amazing. Should've had a Tube Screamer to play with this!

@ricklaurens5884 7 лет назад

Great episode! This is also helpful if one (or more) of your preamp tubes fails. This could be a great topic: Lifesavers for when your amp breaks down.

@Grindian 5 лет назад

Big thanks to you guys for accompanying me on my journey back into playing electric guitar! When I put down my electric for acoustic 10 yrs ago (couldnt bring my electric gear with me to school), I only used a RAT through my 73' orange or120. I always struggled with shaping the super warm fuzziness into a more colorful sound. I asked you guys for opinions on true spring reverb, and ended up getting the CTC white whale. I absolutely love it. The way it's preamp works with the amp is gorgeous! Additionally I revisited my Mesa Boogie V-twin preamp pedal and was able to use it to alter the EQ some and it sounds "ace". It inspired me to investigate the prospect of using the vtwin as the only preamp section, so got a mesa 20 20 dyna.... the result? Unreal. My favorite. (Noticed on your power amp reviews didnt include the Orange Pedal Baby or the MooR tube drive, perhaps food for future thought?) Bit of a rant, im aware; but you lot ev got my wheels turning, and I appreciate it more than you can know! Thanks Mick, thanks Dan!!!

@billsherrington5996 7 лет назад

Great show guys! Best tones from all your shows IMHO!

@TUBEMAN192 7 лет назад

Thank you so much guys for this video. I've been myself looking into this subject for awhile and wondered whether or not it would work. You two just smashed this one out the park - killer sounding gear!

@misterguitargeek 7 лет назад

That PRS sounds amazing

@vincet68 7 лет назад

Funny enough, about 3 weeks ago, I shifted my Spark Mini from the front of the amp to the effects loop as a simple volume boost and had a similar "Aha!" moment. Great vid, gentlemen.

@paulcowart3174 3 года назад

Yes Vince I use an EP boost in my loop to give my clean tone a little something extra Less pedals up front as well 👍

@rogertheshrubber1135 7 лет назад

Some beautiful sounds on this video, the kingsley pedals are awesome. 61,000+ subscribers. Congratulations on your well deserved success.

@PhilHeesen 7 лет назад

I was JUST rewatching the Kingsley episode a few days ago and here is a new episode featuring his pedals! Man, they sound sooo fantastic. I might need to pony up for one. But which?! Thanks for another great episode guys! Best guitar show online by a long shot.

@travissexsmith5362 7 лет назад

I love the way Mick looks at Daniel when he's in the pocket feelin a groove.

@Infinighost 7 лет назад

I used to do this when I plugged my Vox Ice9 into the effects loop of my solid state amp. It was a crazy sound that didn't really boost, but still sounded really cool and unique. Almost Brian May-like.

@npinero1 7 лет назад

Wow , I love the sounds with this method. As always, thanks guys.

@winstonsmith8236 6 лет назад

I love it when it just brings me directly to one of your episodes after i ask the superweb a gear question....

@lu-banger 7 лет назад

Well that's definitely a new thing for me and I really really really love that sound! Can't wait to get to jam space to try it out! Thanks guys, great work, please keep it up!

@smiggy1968 7 лет назад

Mind officially blown! Good stuff gents. Keep up the good work! Thanks!

@russharnish 7 лет назад

I agree with everyone else--my Friday doesn't get started until I watch the new That Pedal Show episode!

@napalmhardcore 7 лет назад

Glad you got around to this. I've been interested in external preamps into the effects return/power amp for some time now. Those Kingsley pedals sound absolutely amazing. I saw Brett Kingman do some demos with the AMT Legend series a few years back (JFET recreations of famous amps) and that's where my interest really started. The possibilities are pretty intriguing. I've read good things about them on various forums too.

@londog2010 7 лет назад

Hello Dan and Mick. Wow, what another fantastic episode. It did not disappoint and answered many questions I had about my own foray on my hybrid Marshall and its effects loop. I'm convinced more now than ever that I need a preamp in my effects loop to defeat a less than stellar tone stack at the front end. Now to strategize my presentation and convince my wife that this is a sound decision. It's not beneath me to beg like a dog either. LOL Cheers guys. Thanks again. For those recording on a budget, I ran my Egnater Tweaker (15 watt) amp into a Weber Mini-Mass (dummy speaker load) and used the line out on that to run through the pedal board, last pedal being stereo outs to a Marshall Bluetooth Speaker (Costco purchase). Mic'd that and run it into a DAW. It was a fun experiment with some very positive yet unexpected results. Funny thing my wife bought the Marshal Bluetooth because it looked cute.

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+londog2010 The last line is where it's at Londog! I think Marshall have benefitted from a lot of ladies buying cool little things for their menfolk! Good luck with the new approach and thanks for watching.

@manuelesayas9960 7 лет назад

you guys are awsome... i always watch the new video and big helpful for some ideas that you guys did. cheers! and more videos to come.

@elierickson4720 2 года назад

Great episode as always fellas. Thanks for all of the knowledge.

@lance134679 7 лет назад

Thank you for keeping your guitars in tune! I won't mention any names, but some presenters don't seem to care much about tuning. Also, running pedals straight into the power amp section is definitely another option for getting sounds. I think it works well when you want an extremely clear sound, which does happen on occasion.

@MB-yw3pv 7 лет назад

BEEN WAITING FOR AN EPISODE LIKE THIS, BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THIS STUFF

@jonathanhill7756 7 лет назад

extremely inspiring episode guys. keep up the good work.

@tonefingerz2021 6 лет назад

u guys r killing it man

@livelypelts3325 7 лет назад

You guys hit on a good point. You should be doing ALL of you testing through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and a Marshall DSL! Most people either own these, play gigs with these, or use them as back line rentals. The Two Rock and Hampstead sound great, but not what MOST people use. Another thing I do when I have to is use an effects processor board into the effects loop. Also try pedals into a solid state amp as a comparison. I watch everything you guys do. Keep up the good work!

@mikenitchie5849 7 лет назад

Kinglsey Amps and Pedals are some of the best equipment in the business! Simon Jarrett handmakes all his stuff and to top it off is a great, humble guy who is one of the best guitar players I have ever heard. I had the privilege of playing with him a couple of weeks ago, and I would almost lose my place in the song because I was enjoying his playing so much! Just a little gushing from a fan.

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+mike nitchie Nice one Mike! We echo all of that. Wish we got to play live with him!

@MrTimMifsud 7 лет назад

This is a real ear opening episode. Loved it. I would want to see more of this sort of thing like compare the Maiden to other pre-amp pedals like the Effectrode Blackbird. Then it would be cool to see how they worked with valve standalone power amps like the Mesa 50:50

@MrBoggles 4 года назад

I’ve played around with this idea at home.. Xotic BB pedal, Timmy pedal, sounded great! The power amps are loud! So the level on the pedals were set pretty low.. but I look at it this way.. when the power amp is completely open, it’s like having a giant canvas to paint on.. like watching a big screen.. I even went as far as to try it with my different amps.. mix and match! For example I have a Mesa dual rec but the old style with the parallel effects loop.. now they’re not known for their clean channel.. so I took my hotrod deluxe preamp out into the fx return of the Mesa.. just this alone was quite interesting because as you switch through the different channels on the Mesa it engages the power amp differently which rendered some great colour over the fender pre.. and I could still use the Mesa preamp because it’s running in parallel.. I took it a step further too.. the Mesa has a ‘direct out’ which is a line level derived from the speaker section of the speakers transformer with its own volume control.. So I ran that into the fender power amp in.. And wow!! The cleans were stronger than ever (given it had essentially 150W to play through) the dirty from the Mesa also had punch and clarity at lower volume..

@yvesclarysse5799 7 лет назад

thanks for all your video's

@eeftrippe1859 7 лет назад

nice work guys. I have tried it myself on my bugera 333 with a valvecaster and another home made boost (rog fetzer valve deluxe) and it works brilliantly. I got some nice driven sounds like ac/dc and the darkness.

@wagnernoise 7 лет назад

Well, very informative and enlightening I should say! Cheers

@lebroucke 7 лет назад

For a long time I used an AMT ss-11 into the return of the amp and was quite happy about that . I was traveling a lot and never knew what I was going to be working with so that gave me some constancy not to mention how easy it made my life. Also used a the mesa V-twin a lot.

@bennettmatte 7 лет назад

This was great! I've had to develop my pedalboard around small venues where I go straight from the board to a DI box. Now I have a gig that requires my Hot Rod DeVille, and my tone is totally alien to me running through the amp. Definitely going to give this a try.

@Albertgutierrez 7 лет назад

Now this was a good show. I will be trying some of these new sounds!!!

@denmar355 7 лет назад

Wow! Great tweak! So you made me experiment with my rig. I put a BB pre into the loop in my Mesa Express 5:50+. Then the tone just bloomed! A whole different sound. The 6L6 tubes gave a clarity and fullness I had not heard with pedals hitting the preamp section. Definition even at pretty low volume (85 db or so). Thanks Mick! Love TPS!

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Denis M Nice one Denis! Glad you're finding something inspiring. Thanks for watching!

@dickjonesify 7 лет назад

Another good'n. Love the tones. Thanks for a great show, Dan and Mick.

@dickjonesify 7 лет назад

That SG Junior though 😍

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+dickjonesify We know, it's nuts isn't it?

@rikh78 7 лет назад

my god that SG sounds heavenly! Mick nailed the Dave Grissom tone with the DGT and the Maiden in the loop too, lovely and thick but very clear

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Moltisanti Thank you! Mick here. Dan's LP (SG) is an astonishing guitar. So simple, so perfect!

@fossilmatic 7 лет назад

A really interesting (scull) episode. You have to do a follow up using something like a Hot Rod Deluxe or a Peavy Classic 30 to show how this applies to a mid range tube amp power section. I also think that the format of you guys enquiring into an idea in real time is really informative as opposed to just presenting known ideas (you've covered so many so well). The look on your faces when running the Spark alone into the power amp was priceless. I also bet Kingsley gets a sales spike after this.

@quibster 7 лет назад

I use a Mesa Boogie V twin preamp, the first version, pretty cool pedal. It has a headphone out and a regular out, in addition it also has a 'TO POWER AMP' out for giving these sorts of options more flexibility.

@DannyBrooks1 4 года назад

I am now playing with a Fryette power station with Kingsley Maiden D and Constable in the FX loop along with my pedalboard. Sounds amazing!

@marcengel8299 4 года назад

Where do you put effects like mods and delays

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@@marcengel8299 since the Kingsley pedals are basically real preamp, would make sense to put modulations, delay, echo, etc. right after the Kingsley preamp like you would do using a FX loop.

@AdamHumburg 7 лет назад

Outstanding, creative, mind-bending and fascinating. The tones you both were coming up with were brilliant and super inspiring to listen to! I'm going to go rewire some things and bother the neighbors!

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Adam Humburg Please give them our regards via a large and perfectly crunchy E major!

@meclazine 7 лет назад

"First, let’s say that you have an amp that you like but don’t love." I lol'd. It's like you know me. Great video. You are killing me with those Eric Johnson licks on the PRS. Such killer tones with the Maiden.

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+meclazine Thank you, and thanks for watching!

@peterjessop1878 7 лет назад

Finally managed to try the experiment of running my Mesa v twin into the power amp of my fender hot rod Deville 4x10. The sound was absolutely killer. As the power amp was all the way open I was also able to control the overall volume from the v twin master which made it much more house friendly than the Fender Pre amp. Now a Page DS behind the v twin clean channel maybe the way to go. Thanks Mick and Dan that definitely deserves a t shirt purchase

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Peter Jessop Nice one Peter - glad that's working for you. Have fun with it and thank you for the T. Makes a big difference to us. :0)

@srvtwo 7 лет назад

First things first guys, awesome job as always! This episode made me go back and watch the show with Simon Jarret because I remember the Constable from that episode and it was designed for this application as well. I think a great idea for a continuation of this show would be to get a hold of a Hot Rod Deluxe/Deville and run pedals like the Constable, Juggler, and Squire into the return loop. Maybe include pedals like the Ethos and Royal Overdrive as well. I've been leaning towards a setup like this for backlined gigs, cause like you said you have no idea what you'll get. Run these as the pre amp and run my pedals into them. Very cool! Anyway, thanks again guys for the awesome show!!

@michaelarthurmusic307 7 лет назад

Your comments "very revealing" are right on the mark. I have a Kingsley Regent (D Style Amp plus a 3rd channel) and it is indeed revealing; it makes you play better because if you don't you will not like the result.

@gibbysg8143 7 лет назад

Some great tones in this vid fellas! That SG junior is amazing!

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Gibby SG yep, she's a crazy good guitar

@Semitotal 7 лет назад

Great and thorough demo! I'm definitely going to mess around with running straight into the return with a boost or something as the preamp.

@thormusique 7 лет назад

Excellent video, guys, thanks! As far as one can tell through the medium of YT, it sounds to me as if patching these pedals directly into the effects return produced a much more visceral, immediate response. As you show, the dynamics range is utterly amazing. In any case, this is a wonderful approach I'd never have thought of using but will have to try running my pedal rack through a Suhr Eclipse and into the effects return of my Blackstar Soloist. Not that the result could be the same as using a valve preamp, though.

@jeffreyallison771 5 лет назад

I was just re-watching this episode to learn more about Kingsley pedals. When at at 41:20 Mick made a comment about a small amp, even a solid state amp. Orange Amps just announced the Pedal Baby a 100 watt A/B power Amp. It might be worth revisiting this topic of a contained board.

@morphine0000 7 лет назад

It's funny that you love the idea of just arriving with a small bit of equipment at a gig and saying "here's my sound, I'm done." Almost like... the same the experience with a good kit of modeling gear, like a Kemper ;) (Please, put down the pitchforks, I love watching your videos)

@paulscoulding105 2 года назад

This is great. I've always run my echoplex pre amp into the effects loop. It seems to open the amp up alot more. I've also added drive pedal into the loop (just a cheap King Of Blues pedal). It works fantastic and gives a real big sound. It sounds like it is part of the amp. If I plug into the front end, it sounds to shrill.

@T-Hawkeyes 7 лет назад

41:30 You two are absolutely hilarious. We love it.

@SSvebor 7 лет назад

Them Kingsley pedals are faaantastic, in every way, shape or form! (And so are the amps, of course)

@reaperofwaywardsouls 7 лет назад

Awesome video. Thank you for looking at pre-amp pedals, I have been hoping you would look at this method. If you ever re-visit this type of thing, consider looking at comparing pre-amp pedals to one another (maybe without a drive pedal pushing them, but ones with a drive/crunch sound already built in) as well as looking at some pedals that are designed to function as both a drive pedal and a preamp replacement.

@cpk313 6 лет назад

That little mini spark is a perfect preamp/boost going into an FX loop return. Open, immediate, pure and on the amp I am using it is much more touch sensitive going into it vs. the amp input. Put an AB in front and now you got 2 channels. Interestingly you guys seem to have a greater degree of volume drop then I have experienced.

@sandyturner1911 4 года назад

Seriously? That opening is amazing! Dayumm..

@iamkennymartin 7 лет назад

I stick the spark mini at the beginning of my signal chain at about the level you use here and really dig it. Just fattens it up a bit before everything.

@JefAlanLong 7 лет назад

Great video! I think you guys overlooked probably the most attractive application of this approach; using a loop switcher to swap out the preamp in your amp for an external one - adding channel switching to a single channel amp. I remain a fan. I'll buy a tshirt when it features the name drop horn, maybe 'I got tooted on..' or something. Best

@Bread99 7 лет назад

I'd be interested to see how other pedal style preamps sound versus the Kingley using the same concept. Great video! A way of doing things I hadn't thought of trying before. Now I'll have to try it!

@liam421 7 лет назад

I doo I doo! Brilliant as always lads 👍

@soulisthegoal96 7 лет назад

Excellent show, and nice to see Mick kind of running the show for once! (Not that I mind the usual, variety is just the spice of life, is all.) If you ever revisit this, could you please take a boost/pre-amp into an EQ and then into a drive for us to have a listen too as well? Just because I'm sure that most guitarists have access to those pedals much more readily than your (admittedly amazing) Kingsleys there. Thanks lads!

@cicerofavaretto 7 лет назад

great show!!! 👏 👏 👏 🔝 🔝 🔝

@twat75 7 лет назад

You guys should do a show on the Torpedo Live and Torpedo CAB. I picked up a used Torpedo Live a month or so ago and it is great. Another way to tame the volume issues. The CAB may be more pedal show appropriate but you guys would enjoy both.

@ryanspencerlauderdale687 4 года назад

Try a Metal Zone into the FX loop. Seriously, though. It makes it sound way better.

@patrickb3064 7 лет назад

Thank you. That was a great video. I have never really explored my effects loop like that.... hhhmmm.. have fun at namm!

@the5chord 7 лет назад

Great episode fellas.

@19Cluj 7 лет назад

Wow, great episode! One the most interesting, as far as I'm concern. What would be really great is a part 2 centered on fly gig set-up, that might involved some Kingsleys like today, but also an Effectrode Blackbird (both with a wide-spread power amp like a Fender Hot Rod), and a Bluguitar AMP1 for instance.

@kwsailer1 7 лет назад

I am curious to hear what the JHS Colour Box on the wall behind you sounds like in the same context.

@PaulManningg 3 года назад

Can’t believe they didn’t use it.

@nsiepmann 7 лет назад

It occurs to me that, name-wise at least, those Kingsley pedals are the perfect companions to Way Huge pedals - 'hit the Maiden with the Swollen Pickle', 'We've got the Squire going into a Saucy Box', etc etc etc. Sorry, childish. Not at all in-keeping with the spirit of TPS. :P

@willstocks4916 7 лет назад

i don't know... the gigrig have got the most blatant innuendo laden pedal name in "the wet box" - so blatant, it goes unnoticed...

@wildebeast6065 5 лет назад

Nick Siepmann Yes or A Swollen Pickle into A saucy Box!

@ryanspencerlauderdale687 5 лет назад

Run them into Friedman amps, then. Like the Pink Taco.

@grahamkelly8299 5 лет назад

Try a dod 308 into the the fx return, both knobs all the way up, and you got yourself pure bliss for the cost of lunch!!

@juanmartinreborati7928 7 лет назад

Interesting approach! thanks for that! Cheers! How would a fuzz sound in that chain?...

@toddcarpenter4233 7 лет назад

Maiden D + iconoclast = omg ! Perfect with headphones or straight to the board...

@prboyd 7 лет назад

Back to your best lads. Perfect way to start the Friday viewing and rather impressive tones! Grand Tour next. Yes, you trump Amazons multigazollion blockbuster series. James May on complex delays this week I here ;) Rock on :)

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Phil Boyd Blimey, high praise Phil! Wish we had one 50th of their budget. :0)

@prboyd 7 лет назад

Indeed.. Stereo pair of Dumbles ahoy!

@flatsix666 7 лет назад

< facetious mode on > Must try one of these modern new style amps with this effects loop you speak about! < facetious mode off > Great work again boys!

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Kossofffan Indeed! By your name we're assuming you're hitting a plexi with a Les Paul. If you can turn that up, no need to do anything else, no loops or preamps required. Cheers and thanks for watching!

@flatsix666 7 лет назад

by Jove! absolutely bang on!

@joefox3112 7 лет назад

Love the show! Keep it up guys. Ill be purchasing a shirt soon. You should cover tube preamp pedals in front of tube hybrid amps like music man amps with solid state preamps

@cabbage9398 7 лет назад

Received my t-shirt in the post today. Cheers guys.

@davidkieltyka9 7 лет назад

Cool beans. I've been experimenting lately with running pedals into a Fryette Power Station. (I don't own any guitar amps with effects loops.) The results are highly variable, with the best sound resulting from hot line level input. Now the PS is intended mainly for speaker level input, which it can either boost or attenuate, but it has an instrument level input as well. What I haven't yet done is run gain pedals into a tube preamp (a DeLisle Eighty Sixed, featuring an EF86 pentode) set clean. Or put the gain pedals after the DeLisle. Must try both!

@joeycomstock5481 7 лет назад

I realize that you all aren't here to display your guitar skills but Mick at 37:41 kills it!! Great guitar playing man!!

@1971SuperLead 7 лет назад

Ya, that's some amazing tone and playing.

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Joe Comstock Wow, thanks guys that's very kind of you to say. I'm not a skilled player in the way that many of our guests are... but when the sound is good, I seem to be able to play better. That's one of the reasons Dan and I are so crazy about inspirational sounds. We can't play without them!

@danielbertola7868 7 лет назад

This may seem obvious to some, but in light of this video's content, I have stumbled across tonal gold!! Using a buffered dry/wet mixing box and a splitter: My signal is split after my tuner. One side travels through my pedals, to the amp, out of the send jack to my delay and reverb and back in the return (as normal). The other side is clean boosted directly into the return port via the mixing box. Having both blended into the return jack essentially creates a wet/dry setup with the same amp, with the ability to adjust the dry level into the mixture. You have to use the "dry" signal through the wet loop on the mixing box tho. Sounds ace. If you have the gear at hand, give it a try.

@BeyondtheRecord 7 лет назад

May I suggest some ideas for future episodes? it would be cool to see what you guys would come up with when required to build a pedalboard for certain situations: -small pedalboard where you are required to take a plane -rock-blues pedalboard vs modern rock pedalboard -a pedalboard where you are required to have many very different sounds -a pedalboard designed for studio recording I think that if you can elaborate a little on your thought process while building this boards it would be incredibly useful!!! cheers guys, keep up the good work :)

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+Beyond the Record Thank you got the suggestions, all good ideas. Cheers!

@TheVigilantStewards 7 лет назад

I've had a Siegmund Double Drive microtube pedal for about a year now and a Fender amp (was originally a blues deluxe reissue when I bought it). I never liked the tone stack in that amp because it was always impossible to dial in and not clear with my setup. Got the Double Drive and from day one found going into the return better than the preamp for my live shows. I've liked it so much I've thought about doing a custom preamp from him with like 3 channels on it built in and maybe using a different tube on one, like an octal. Been a great year.

@neuk01642 7 лет назад

Thank God, I thought you weren't coming... what the hell would I do without TPS on Friday?? That would be the end of days... Unthinkable... UNTHINKABLE I SAID... and breathe...

@ThatPedalShow 7 лет назад

+neuk01642 Hahahaha! We noticed a mistake at the last minute so needed to fix it. Oooops.

@gadeia102030 7 лет назад

Yeah. For a moment I thought that it wasn't friday.

@inot1105 7 лет назад

great insightful video guys. I appreciate this. I hope you can try out other pre amp pedals. I know alot of gigging guitar players prefer this kind of setup. rock on and God bless

@song-mode 7 лет назад

The other scenario in which this is useful is for those of us who are running ampless rigs [In Dan's Voice: "Ewwww!"]. I recently picked up a torpedo CAB and have been eyeing the Kingsley Pedals as that was a popular recommendation as preamp solution. It's definitely the next iteration of that rack preamp 80's thing, but on a pedal board. The brilliant thing about it is that your whole rig is on the pedal board, but that doesn't mean sacrificing tone, its equally at home in small project studios where you can't always record loud amps, even the smaller wattage ones. It also means I can have several classic tones because I can get differently voiced preamps / amp in a box pedals, and the torpedo cab handles power amp / cab / mic simulation, better than modeling. I was literally thinking of sending you guys a message about this whole trend / opportunity, specifically with Kingsley stuff, and then you just went ahead and did it! Are you guys mind readers?

@Curdle7 3 года назад

Great channel

@Micky-yo3ng 7 лет назад

As ever, great video Guys, and the wealth of knowledge I'm getting just grows and grows. This episode is particularly relevant because at a recent rehearsal in an unfamiliar room I tried this technique using a Fender Hot Rod and the results were pretty bad and I'd like to know how I could've achieved a better result. I was using (cue tut tut noises from all) a Boss GT-100 as the preamp. Yes, a modelling device. I find in certain situations a one-stop-shop like the Boss is a very useful tool and there must be a way to incorporate it into a rig alongside my 'proper' pedals and amps that gives good results. I suspect Dan will tell me it's about impedances and stuff but I'd like to see a show explaining all that, if you can bear to do one, even if the outcome is that I'm just chasing my tail. Anyway keep up the good work guys and I'll wear my TPS T shirt proudly.

@NormanZealandMalana 5 лет назад

Hey, this A and M drive pedal you have on your store looks like exactly what I'm looking for. I just might get one in the near future :D

@johnpatricks213 7 лет назад

The Carvin VLD1 Legacy Drive is the perfect pre-amp pedal to run into your amplifier's effects return / power amp in. It is awesome.

@richardhuckle5715 7 лет назад

Have you thought about a video where you each talk about your favourite guitarist and the set up you use to try to emulate your hero ? Was it the sound they managed to create or their playing technique, that made you a fan etc

@misaelrodriguez8115 7 лет назад

So I've been reading a lot about this these past few months specially because of fly dates and you guys just made it a lot more clear for me. What about a "preamp pedal shootout" of some sort? I hear that that Ethos pedals are amazing as well and I've been debating between an Ethos or a Kingsley. Any takes?

@Erukulon 7 лет назад

notification squad checking in always a great way to start the weekend, cheers guys.

@Crazyfistish 7 лет назад

This is very enlightening... Maybe going a bit overboard here but you could take a step further and have separate guitar and bass pedalboards that both use the same power amp and cab! Or even better, add in a Two-Notes C.A.B cabinet simulator pedal to emulate separate bass and guitar cabs too.