The $11BN Tunnel Connecting Scandinavia to the Mediterranean 

I'm aspiring to become one

@@anp1609 And you will. I just started my first job as an assistant engineer last month and had a lot of doubts about myself as an engineer throughout uni. But it all worked out in the end. You're gonna do great, Aditya! 👍🏿

@@berbatovfan27 thanks for your kind words!

@@anp1609 Civil engineer here. I'm just a few years into my career, but it's totally worth it. We get to look at the origins of large things being thought up and built. Very interesting stuff.

I was torn between engineering or the medical field growing up. You can imagine that I've had doubts lately for choosing the latter rather than the former. Thought it was a good idea not to turn a hobby such as designing/building into a career. Cheers to all the young men/woman who follow their passion!

How?

@@Someone-wh8hi I don't live in Europe?

@@dominicrobertson7626 I live in Europe and also had no idea!

@@dominicrobertson7626 but sir, no other places exist outside the US of Europe.

there is another one of similar scale, Lyon-Turino. As someone from Europe I had no idea about that one.

kannst ja jederzeit über den Pass oder das Penserjoch fahren ;)

@@bloodhoug82, wie Wunderschön.

@@lucilayvonnepadilla6727 ist es wirklich

the good thing is that both ways will be quicker, the tunnel ... well because its a tunnel, and over the mountains will be less traffic.

When I first saw the comment I didn't realise it was an 80 minute journey going to 25 mins, saving an hour didn't sound great when I thought the journey might be 5 or 6 hours, but to find its 80mins down to 25 mins that's almost a quarter of the time of original journey, and sounds a lot better.

I was wondering about that as well.. nice video but hate clickbait

@@Fwfjqjerflqa its really not clickbait, the tunnel does indeed connect the scandinavia to the mediterranean

@@driuss8587 Well, it does also connect Beijing to Naples and Wladiwostok to Venice...

same, thought maybe really just not for humans, like a pipeline whole under the ground or something...

that was the first thing my mind jumped to as well but i knew there's no way for that to only cost $11BN. i too think it's rather clickbaity because, while it's not technically a lie (and it might not even be on purpose (though it probably is)), it still sounds like an actual tunnel of 1000s of km

only if you take it out of context

Something something Hannibal something...

@@TimeSurfer206 Imagine how much easier hannibal wouldve crossed the alps if it was an open field

@@AnAverageBoss You're still of on the amount of time they've been there by a few orders of magnitude. Hannibal would not have made the History Books if it had been an open field.

@@TimeSurfer206 Hannibal didn't make the history books because he crossed the alps, he made it because of what he did once he crossed the alps.

A bit boring, though.

@@HeriEystberg He’s very interesting in fact 😤

@@callidusvulpes5556 The joke You

@@neondemon5137 Me playing into the joke Your head I literally personified a tunnel boring machine, how much clearer can I get?

is the machine built by Herrenknecht? that company is the market leader for boring machines

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Innsbruck is beautiful. In fact, all of Austria is stunning. Cheers from Illinois! ❤

I will be there in 2028 to ride the magna-tunnel!

@@vinnieviddivicci5459 It absolutly is. An alpine paradise of landscapes. Grestings back 🇦🇹

@@johannesmaximilian848 - I have friends in Innsbruck. I was there one year in June, and the "fires were in the hills" since it was June 21. Drank too much schnapps that night! 😅 🇺🇸 ❤ 🇦🇹

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@@derrickconnolly9164 Don't be scared just because they could work harder than you

@@clappedoutmotor as if

@@clappedoutmotor dont be ashamed of being white...its OK to be white.

@@danielgriffith1804 thats not why we dont like his comment

Haha, you're welcome!! 😂

It was funny but I was really hoping for a serious answer, like how many Olympic size swimming pools it would fill or how big an artificial island could be made.

@@chatteyj 8600 pools @ 2500 cubic meters apiece, if that helps?

@@jimsvideos7201 Tar, thats a fair size artificial man made island then.

atleast this documentry is asking the important mathmatical questions

Wasn't that the purpose of the Gotthard Base Tunnel, to get get trucks put on flatbed trailers to be moved by train through the Tunnel to reduce the air pollution through that part of Switzerland?

@@Sacto1654 I'd say both tunnels have the same purpose but in different sections of Alps (as the mountain range stretches pretty long).

@@Sacto1654 The Gotthard basically links North-Western Italy (Milan, Turin, Genoa) and the rest with Zurich, the Rhine and the Netherlands. The Brenner instead connects Trentino-South Tyrol, Veneto (region of Venice, Padua and Verona), Bologna, Central and Southern Italy, and the Adriatic coast to (Northern)Tyrol, Bavaria, Eastern Germany and the whole Scandinavia. They serve different flows of goods and people which are both huge

@@Hastdupech8509 @Sacto1654 The main difference is that traffic flow through Switzerland is much lower due to the fact that Switzerland is not in the EU. Whilst the Swiss can charge very high truck tolls to cross-finance the construction of its base tunnels, Austria is only allowed to charge a moderate amount as anything else would be considered a violation the free movement of goods and services principle of the EU. Consequentially more than 2/3 of all the cross alpine truck traffice is running through Austria.

@@hackbrettschorsch6855 Thanks, that makes a lot of sense

You sure about that yeah

Europe is a nice place

The whole world appreciates living in Europe

Nah infrastructure is supported in europe but it takes so much time to end a project…

@@callmeme9903 Thats what happens when you cannot use your manpower until they die

"that's great and all but i'm not crossing them from THAT direction." or something to that effect, given he was crossing from the Iberian peninsula (modern day spain) into north italy he likely took the more direct route over them from there. Though I'm sure a historian could prove me wrong or right more succinctly.

He would think that they are aliens

He would ask himself how many elephants fit into those tunnels

What do you think he would have thought?

@@The7Purplekirbies Yes, but it is still the same mountain range which killed half of his army.

In large parts of the USA they were able to do the same before 1970. After that most of the USA became to corrupt to do infrastructure. Keyword is competition. Without competition things will take 10 times longer and will cost 30 times more. It will also take a decade to rebuild know-how again. Fortunately for USA they can buy know-how in many parts of the world that still do infrastructure.

@@roodborstkalf9664 the problem in the US isn't lack of competition, it's that your democracy doesn't believe in taxes apart from funding the military.

@@matthiasdarrington3271 “Life in general has never been even close to fair, so the pretense that the government can make it fair is a valuable and inexhaustible asset to politicians who want to expand government.” - Thomas Sowell

@@matthiasdarrington3271 oh they love taxing us. Major infrastructure bill en route.

@@matthiasdarrington3271 While that is not completely true, we do spend a lot of the military. This is to our benefit and the benefit of those nations we have military alliances with. Many nations underspend on their defense as they depend on the US military for much of their defense. We spend hundreds of billions on nonmilitary spending as well. Our government loves to spend money. The interesting part is that in our Constitution, the only thing the government is obligated to spend money on is the military.

What's next?....lemme guess,project Ultron?

That's the other one - Gothard Base Tunnel... This is the Bremner Pass Tunnel... 👍👍 Yes the EU are building 2 massive tunnels in the space of time the UK is flip flopping over HS2... 👍👍

Ignore me - BIG was about the Bremner... There are still 2 tunnels through the alps once this is completed though... 👍👍

@@BassandoForte HS2 cuts through barely-finished housing estates, forests, and just about everything else. Tunnels cut through rock. Do you see the difference?

@@redd_cat - Yeah Tunnels take far longer to build... But I agree - NIMBYS ruin the UK more than Brexiteers have... 👍

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i mean germany still hasn't finished their promised upgrades to the Rhein line which was supposed to be done to make the gotthard base tunnel fully utilised. At least in Italy they admitted they weren't gonna do it and let the Swiss do it for them xD

Hey, we finally installed electric power lines on the train tracks between Hamburg and Lübeck. In 2008. And we will be extending the power lines all the way to Fehmarn to connect to the tunnel the Danes are building. And maybe even add a second track so two trains can use it at the same time. We're pulling out load! :p

@@Yora21 That Karlsruhe-Basel Rhein Line Upgrade won't be completed until the 2050s according to current Planning and the Upgrades on the Lübeck-Puttgarden aren't even decided to be built at all. If they get built, it will take at least 20 Years too.

@@Yora21 Wait...WHAT? Hamburg-Lübeck didn´t have power lines until 2008? :O Well, at least we found out recently that the Internet is actually useful...

@@RSProduxx you know... from Switzerland to Munich they still don't have power lines...

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Good luck and just remember the little people when your a leading engineer of the world GOD speed

Civil Engineering is a compelling subject, and never ending! We keep improving our infrastructure and livelihood thanks to Civil Engineers!

Alternative / passive power generation - that's one big wave of the future. Good luck, Soma.

Good luck, I hope you achieve your dream 😀💛

Yup. Very clickbaity.

Then it wouldn't be a clickbait link...

Most titles are clickbaity now a days to get revenue, it´s the nature of the human race, if the title is boring only the intelligent people watch. However "11 BN tunnel through the Alps" doesn´t sound boring.

Yeah I agree hahaha When I read the title, I immediately thought "wtf" this can't be true😂.. Scandinavia to Medeterranian?? A tunnel??? Why/how/when??? 11 billion is really cute in that distance.. Commendable clickbait though. Keep it up.. LOL

@@ramonejara2424 Might as well have said 11BN Tunnel connecting Mexico to the Mediterranean. Drive from Mexico to Canada. Take boat to Scandinavia.

The Sovereign Military Order is secretly building it as a means to invade and overthrow the republic. 😁

@@grantorino2325 they're doing it in broad daylight.

Or from Mainland Italy, to Sicily.

0:05 its part of the Scannet corridor.

ec.europa.eu/transport/themes/infrastructure/scandinavian-mediterranean_en has all the projects

omg thats so interesting!!! i want to hear more, what was it like??

What job were u doing there?

@@northscrow9316 Plant a seed, wait for a few years for it to mature and it'll give you fruits for years to come.

Glad you went back to little England

I still don’t.

They have big plans

Opppps really???

Carolus Rex is coming back it seems

LoL :-)

The ferry between Sweden-Finland is sufficient to include it in the plan, since effective transport routes exist. An agreement to build a tunnel between Finland and Estonia was signed this year though.

There is 4 big ships that travel constantly between Turku and Stockholm and 4 more that travel from Helsinki to Stockholm. so no, its not so big of a problem.

The US debt increases by this amount every 4 hrs = /

3.5 billion or millard wow

Lets see your workings....

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What do you mean?

@@MrBuild9357 It's a pun on the words "to bore" and "boring"

Not in football 😉

Nice joke. 😁 But I have to correct you. Austria and Italy do the main work for the tunnel. In Germany they are still discussing the new route of their railway, connecting to the tunnel (which begins in Innsbruck, Austria). So the tunnel starts in Austria, and ends in Italy.

@@Hanneskitz TBMs are from Germany

i hate when they call finland scandinavia cuz its not

Bless you.

i ll never forgive you for deleting my fantasy that yodl is not a measure unit from the average weight of yodelers, or how many yodelers does it take so that the sound reaches a neighbor mountain

@@jh5kl I'm so sorry. May i apologize by referring a classic yodel bop to you?

almost as if they do it on purpose to benefit the brenner tunnel

The same problem is present here in Austria unfortunately. Austria has already upgraded the routes which lead towards the Brenner Base tunnel a few years ago for billions of dollars (this route already consists of the two longest tunnels in austria currently) to a route for up to 230kmh, 4-track railway. All while germany hasn‘t done remotely anything to upgrade their railway which directly conntects to austria‘s brand new rail system. You really can see where austria ends and where germany starts when you drive across the border by train. From 230 constantly to 140 sometimes. And that on an old 2-track system with 2000378 level crossings.

What? Usually the Germans and Swiss are on time.

@@fallinginthed33p Well, not in terms of upgrading their railway. Germany is still very car depenend as many international automakers are based there. Except for some railway corridors in germany (for example the High Speed ICE lines), railway in germany is not adequate

maybe it’ll change and speed up with those new EU investments into rail they’ve been talking about lately.

The more amazing part for me is project management over 20 years. That's like building a pyramid. You could start in your 40s and up retiring on the same project.

In Greece it would have costed 11Trillions. 11 billions would be needed just for the paperwork

Maybe 100 billions

Civil projects are never on time and *NEVER* on budget.

Indeed remarkable for a project that must involve quite a lot of Italians.

Senator Moscow is more into not doing some too.

It is

hey, you are getting MOAR highways for MOAR F150 and large airports :) Not too bad :P

Its un-American to pay taxes, and sadly these projects are funded by taxes...

There was a big wall project at some point in the recent past, don't remember the purpose ;)

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That's how I'd prefer to see it - my guess is that the two countries involved are the ones footing the bill and doing the design work. There's another video on my reference list captioned 'Denmark is Building a Tunnel to Germany' with no reference to the EU - that's how it should be!

There are a lot of many finnish family that want to go to Malta by car. Obvious

@@thomasnorb4077 believe it or not, building this tunnel is actually easy compared to building a bridge on the Strait of Messina

@@RedKnight-fn6jr That is incorrect. The project is expected to cost 4.5 to 12 bn Euro and doesn’t nearly benefit Austria and Italy as much, as the trade within the EU in general. The EU pays close to half of the tunnel, the other half is split between Austria and Italy. This is a strategic project for the EU and the EU’s involvement has to be mentioned by all means. It is not just the money, the EU created the economic and social environment in decades earlier to even make this project relevant today. Remember that just 80 years ago, Europe was a bombed down war zone as the center of World War II. Today, transit traffic is a historically controversial topic in Austria. Being situated in Central Europe, it sees high volume of transit traffic, using its roads and infrastructure, polluting its environment, without direct economic benefits. So in the past, Austria negotiated to receive continuous compensation from the EU in exchange. You are correct however that much of the tunnel design work comes from Austria, given its expertise in tunnel building as being situated in a quite mountainous region with many tunnels of its own. Greetings from Austria.

Strudel meets Pasta!!?!

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the network being created at EU level is going all the way, hence why the EU was mentioned in the video, and it wouldn t make sense to bypass entire countries

That's the point of the title of the video, to get you interested in something much more extreme, it's called clcikbait.

> And it connects the highways all the way up to Scandinavia. Not the highways, the railroads. Railroads are much more sustainable and higher capacity too

@@mennoltvanalten7260 , Perhaps it will be possible to put the car on a train too at least through the tunnel.

It's also for every country below the alps

Saying that it's connecting Scandinavia and showing graphics of Helsinki is pure clickbait. The tunnel connects the north to the south of the Alps and that is all

Imagine all the energy that will be saved by the trucks transporting goods across that path. Pulling those hills takes a lot more fuel so the level road along with its one third distance will save tons of fuel, and hopefully keep prices of goods lower.

What a poor comparison…

@@Settiis Actually, no, it is evidence of how far the USA has lagged behind in critical infrastructure. Our passenger trains are basically third world level, with freight trains always getting priority, leaving passengers sitting still for sometimes hours at a time. It happened to us in middle of night once. Society of Engineers almost a decade ago estimated three trillion dollars were needed immediately to invest in infrastructure that was failing or needed replacement. And here we are ten years later, still having taken no action. While Europe and China and Norway plunge ahead with fantastic investments that will reap social and economic benefits for decades to come.

@@HeartlandTuber Because the US has a massive highway system, and cars here are kinda cheap to own. Plus, people in the US like to flight more than taking a train, and that is why a high speed rail in CA failed. Also, these infrastructures are owned by private sectors, so when they don't make profits; they are not going to do it. A $1BN stadium is privately owned.

@@HeartlandTuber Yes, but the op compares private sector investments to goverment funded projects. The private investments are not to blame for something the goverment is lacking.

@@HeartlandTuber I like how Norway was mentioned separately from Europe lol

Thanks so much mate! Means a lot that you read that and commented here.

And, more importantly, there are no passenger rail connections between Finland and Sweden, so the route isn't continuous.

@@juusotaskinen452 I believe the dotted line in the graphics is suppose to represent the ferry lines that do exist.

I mean Nordic countries won’t really exist after 2055 or so

That title is really weird and clickbaitish.

@@xx_mysticwolf_xx1492 Countries won't exist after 2030..... Allegedly!

Didn't the Gotthard base tunnel cost 9.6 billion in the end and is longer than the Brenner base tunnel? If the 11 billion projected cost from this video's title are correct, your comment doesn't really add up. That doesn't mean though that the Brenner is cheaper due to the experience from the Gotthard, because it's entirely possible that the Brenner has a geological composition that makes it more expensive than the Gotthard, i don't know though.

@@Naryoril the tunnel per se will be shorter than the Gotthard base tunnel but the junction with the existing structure will make it the longest underground rail tunnel experience in the world. Actually news from Asia indicate this record may not last long. The cost is higher but counting in for inflation the same will be less expensive.

@@Braun30 The "in junction with the existing structure it will be longer" doesn't really count unless you also factor in the cost for that back in the day, or is that part if the 11 billion? But yeah, i forgot about the inflation, that would explain it. Let's hope the Brenner doesn't end up being about 50% more expensive than projectet at the beginning like the Gotthard did.

As an Italian I feel the need to apologize for both those little minded opposing movement and not determinated enough politicians.

@@REVOLUTIONS51 as a French, we do not have done what's necessary either. Hope this project will reinforce our coopération as latin and friend country

It is sad indeed that we let a small group of narrow minded people keep us from having a faster and more efficient connection with our cousins on the other side of the Alps. Union amongst Europeans should also be implemented with better and faster routes.

@@mariosebastiani3214 Sono d'accordo con te

@@REVOLUTIONS51 Your way of thinking and the way you disregards the cause of the people who in that valley live make me want to take their side even if I am personally not involved in any way. Maybe a little less feel of superiority would help to solve Italy's many issued, don't you think?

And what do we put in this tunnel : A train. Because trains are the best mode of transport in the tunnel.

But elon is a genius, he created traffic on a tunnel that prevent traffic!

It would be so cost prohibitive to even try a hyper loop the size Musk wants. It’s much more practical to fund public transit and make a more robust train and bus system.

Yes and look up the cost of rocket flight before Elon introduced reusable rockets

@@peaceyteavo Musk is not an inventor, as much as he might like to style himself as one. He did not create reusable rockets. Thousands of talented engineers did - just like the thousands of talented engineers at all the OTHER aeronautics companies working on making rocketry cheaper.

Corporate America

the big dig is not the best example :)

Not quite, the second most expensive building ever is a ten year late government delayed power plant in EU's beloved Finland: metropolitan.fi/entry/olkiluoto-ol3-second-most-expensive-building-world#:~:text=The%20Olkiluoto%203%20nuclear%20power,2%20Billion%20euros%20in%202003.

@@ismaelalejandro4150 check out my comment below

in china it would take two years instead of twenty. i actually don't know but they supposedly build massive bridges and buildings at lightening speed

I thought the same thing!

I guess what he meant was connecting the railroads that go all the way to the Mediterranean with the ones that go all the way to Scandinavia.

They obviously aren't aware, since Finland isn't part of Scandinavia...

​@@bennylofgren3208 RU-vidrs really are confusing Scandinavia with Nordic countries way too often..

@@Real_MisterSir I too think the same; what is the difference?

Probably costs almost double now, but costs almost as much as one way trip train ticket from Milan to Rome for 3hrs ride.

@@nadir8804 Roads should be cheaper. I'm the only keeping up my car, unlike the train.

@@TomWatsonB1 I agree with you, just that the toll money goes for the road maintenances, or at least that's what it's meant to be for.

And you still need to be connected to Sicily... Wich still needs to be connected to the continent with that f***ing bridge.

gross

Well thanks for sharing guys

Choo choo goes the brown train.

@@TheB1M That said, I know you guys are really big into saying "It connects Scandinavia to the Mediterranean!" but I feel like someone should probably mention the fact that Finland isn't Scandinavian.

That shows ya how much people in the US are being ripped off by contractors and government as well. I believe Americans are not even attempting anything close to this scale anymore anywhere in the country. Simply maintaining exciting infrastructure is like pulling teeth. Americans used to think and believe on a grand scale at all times not too long ago. What happened to us. Going to the moon in less than 10 years! Cross country railroad dug by hand through various mountain ranges in just 4y almost 200 years ago..... In a few decades our infrastructure will look and feel like an old communism enclave.

Lol :) your comment is very intelligent, i admire it. so do you stay in Germany?

While technically possible, both the amount of money, as well as the excavated material, and all the entrances and exits, would be absolutely staggering. So, economically viable: very, very probably not. Politically possible: even less so.

@@RustyDust101 That's exactly why I did a double take on the title of the video.

The cost who cares in the USA we just print/borrow forward whatever we want or need for our pet/pork projects, easy-peasy $$$$$$

@@laniejuanitawhitehurst1624 I think you're confusing money mismanagement with actual resource shortage. Have you ever watched a few videos on Modern Monetary Theory -- MMT? You really should. First of all, a government deficit is the amount of money the government has issued into existence minus the money it has taxed out of existence. That "deficit" is the amount of money in private hands, including the money in circulation, and you don't want that to be zero or there wouldn't be any money in added to a growing economy and everyone would go into deflationary hoarding mode. If the government spends the money on useful infrastructure then that money is circulated, it grows the economy, and there might even be more money necessary just to facilitate the growth, meaning increasing the deficit is the way to go. I'm afraid your attitude is exactly the reason why the infrastructure is crumbling in the US. Now I'm not saying drilling a tunnel through the country would be useful infrastructure. But the fact that you're afraid of it because you think the government is like a household, who can go broke from too much spending, makes your fears the problem, not the solution. A government can run out of labor resources and out of raw materials. Or it can see its infrastructure erode from not spending enough on its upkeep. But it can never run out of money.

It would be faster to build around Germany and reroute the trains through Austria, Czechia and Poland.

Yeah we tried that with the Betuwelijn, their part should've finished around 2003 and the current goal is 2022

I believe they are actually starting. Check out the RU-vid channel DEGES , they recently released a video about this project.

Actually, Denmark is building the tunnel all by themself, Germany just upgrades their "Hinterland" - infrastructure. More importantly they have to work on their section following the Brenner-Pass to Munich.

@@jorimilbradt5701 And they are still debating on the route to Munich. And there are citizen getting the rail into a tunnel and still anoyed by that...

Don't worry, when a president finally starts that war with china to win reelection any uncertainties as to where taxpayer money goes to will vanish :)

Nah! funnel a few billion into a champagne socialists stadium usa don't even get to name or own instead, much better investment choice ^o^

Unfortunately your country became too corrupt after around 1970.

Don't worry, in Italy infrastructure collapses all the time.

M. Ass Sur. Veil. Lance. In every state Duhhhhh

Rather that thing than the other thing.

Or a Balrog.

@Amit Trivedi The Times of India reported last week that it was found somewhere between Manali and Leh

@@johndelilo6038 I do not think so, there they did not dig the 'heart of the mountain', but being beautiful it was only skin deep. Lol.

Wow, as an actual civil engineer supervisor it would be incredible, a 20 years project

Only proble is they they would have to move with the project the further it gets and companies would rather hire people as they move along exept for a few really qualified people and engineers. But yeah I would easily move with the project as it moved along its a great way to meet other people and cultures when working with them rather than travel to them

@@cryingalone7572 As long as countries don't mandate that they hike local workers. Then your job security ends at the border. This project is too big for one contractor to manage and build.

Not interested, I prefer to learn as much as I can about as much as possible in 20 years instead of spending that time digging a long hole! I don't know what I'll be doing 3 years from now and that doesn't bother me at all as long as I'm doing something that I like...

@@ricardoaguilaranguia Why there is no use of the melting rocks techniques??

They haven't even remotely finished building the promised connection to the Gotthard Base tunnel which went into operation a few years ago.

That's the consequence of voting for federal infrastructure ministers from Bavaria or Baden-Württemberg - they have no interest in putting money into the railway system: all for Audi, BMW, Daimler, Porsche.

@@randuru or maybe they don't want to flatten their home?

they probably started at both ends and meet up somewhere in between, it's a common time reducing strategy used in most tunnels, the precision to do so has been round for quite some time !

Parts.

As if it wasn't said already endlessly before

Europe or EU? We could have done this without the EU. And this is all funded by the nations; the EU being the middle man.

Yup, now enjoy seeing kilometers of concrete instead of natural landscapes.

@@hhhhh98764 Better than being stuck in traffic for 5 hours and barely moving even afterwards. I'll take starting at concrete and thinking about the beautiful destination in say 25 minutes than starting at the same exact beautiful location for 5 hours as I read in one of the comments.

Well since we're actually providing protection for most of these countries, you have no point.

@@evansjohnc Protection from whom? We squander over $750B/year on defense. More than the next 47 biggest spenders on defense. You can't justify that wastage of money. Add to that the $60+B/year we piss away on a drug war while still allowing alcohol and tobacco which are proven problems. We spend so much on defense so that some of that money can come back to the congress critters in the form of campaign donations. Instead we could be spending that money on things that would truly make our country a better place for everyone or not spend it and reduce our debt which is grown to outlandish proportions of our GDP.

Yeah, Austria spends just 0,6 % for the military, so there is money for tunnel projects.

@@MarkJones USA spends around 10% on defence and it keeps USD from falling despite massive printing

@@hphp31416 10% of what? GDP?

@Peter Christensen Scandinavia: Sweden, Norway and Denmark The Nordics: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Faroe Islands and Greenland (sort of)

@Peter Christensen It is not. You’re on the internet, use it.

@@jfandersson3223 Maybe you should use the internet. Look up Scandinavian Peninsula. You will see, that the northwest of Finland is a part of it. Outside of the english language, the word scandinavia or its equivalents quite often includes Finland. If you look up the spanish (Escandinavia) or german (Skandinavien) wikipedia, you will find references to Finland.

@@HerrKazuya A part of Italy is on the Balkan peninsula. You would still not call it a Balkan country. A part of Russia is on the Scandinavian peninsula. But same there, no one calls Russia a Scandinavian country. Finland isn't a Scandinavian country. I understand that a lot of People use the term wrong. Enough for it to land on Wikipedia. But it's still wrong.

But you got a great military to threaten the rest of the world with!

Why would anyone want to build anything in a country currently in cultural an economic freefall?

@@datadavis Well US has so many issues its hard to know where to start. Their unproductive massive suburbs, that require so much pavement per person. Alot of cities in america are bankrupt and cannot afford to maintain all the pavement. I mean their road system is just horrible with their stroads, that try to combine a road and a motorway. But ends up being an uneffective, huge piece of pavement to maintain. This altso spreads out population alot, making rail even harder to build. Oh and not to mention companies have gotten all political power in the US. So the US is currently being looted by them, the greatest looting in history i would say. Such immense wealth some have gained, while population starves in poverty. An empire due to fall. I can only vision USA lasting for 8 too 20 years longer before they cave in on themselfs. Either by the population rising up (unlikely how they have been indoctrinated from birth) but could happen. And a civil war starts. Or the economy will totaly collapse, foreign influence and intrest will take over. (Bit like how america influenced Europe after ww2) But some in US think military will fix anything.. But its only partly true. An normal economy would allready collapse from printing 40% of all dollars in existance in 16months. But US dollar since its global trading currency is resistant to inflation. Since foreign powers hold trillions in that currency. So when US prints more money, they dont only steal from their citizens, they altso steal from foreign powers... But thats only aslong as the trust is there.. Once the trust goes, everything goes.

@@MrDanisve they just need to invent a new enemy and a new eternal war to keep the war machine rolling 🤷🏿‍♂️

That is simply a lie, you have no idea what the United States is doing because you do not work in civil engineering. Mostly the reason you see collapsed structures is the result of privatizing construction and now....even inspection.....

wait for the final report on the costs - you can expect the number to be to be trippled

Once you see the valuation of 'tech' companies, everything seems justified.

Prices will only get lower as new innovation discoveries during this construction will make future ones cheaper, SpaceX only used pre-existing technologies, people believe he discovered them.

As an economist I say this is incredible waste of money. As a systems engineer I would say it's dumb.

@@ralfsteiner7751 well, that’s your opinion (and you have a right to your personal opinion); but I disagree.

I remember going over the Brenner Overpass when I was a boy. We were going from Heidelberg Germany to Verona Italy. The Overpass is amazingly high, and very impressive. The highway certainly made the trips to Italy easier than they were previously.

Italy = NIMBY = an annoyance to progress.

therell be nö decent quick public träncespört schinkhanzen 4 müllenjä -:-

@@cv507 Wut¿

then you must've been living under a rock

I can’t hear or feel any sounds or vibrations what is under 5 m of clay and below.

Because most Europeans won't use it, but think about how many Europeans are paying for it...

There will never be a tunnel between Italy and Sicily.....the mafia have too many buried bodies in the way

Yeah but you can find your fingers quicker.

They won't be in the direct area of the Blast probably just for echoes in the tunnel.

@@Just_another_Euro_dude Finland is part of the Nordic council, but not Nordic. Nord is a cultural term. Finland has a different culture. Scandinavia is the geographical region of Denmark, Norway, & Sweden. Iceland is Nordic however.

More of problem you go by boat across the Baltic. Which is sloooooow and filled with drunk people 😂

…So we’ll just ignore that time Finland was ruled by Sweden, and the fact that Swedish is still Finland’s second language…

I think the whole world sees you all as sort of sister states so it's easy to classify yall together.

@@ipadair7345 Finland is most definetly a nordic country, Finns consider themselves nordic and have many cultural similarities with orther nordic countries.

L.A. where a man can get shot to death by cops for jaywalking (at daytime, small road, no cars, no resistance), .....and a rich man driving twice the speed limit, endangering others, gets off with no ticket nor fine (Tiger Woods). Y'all need to fix your police force.

@@brahmburgers chill dude. Your rant has nothing to do with public transit.

born in LA, living in the bay area, waiting for the CA high speed rail project (which isn't going to even be that high speed compared to those in asia and europe) get finished sometime during my lifetime! :-P sigh.

Good wait, be patient.

America in general is an embarrassment when it comes to fast, reliable public transport infrastructure. I really don't understand the aversion to trains, they're the more effective way to move long distances at speed and move a crap load of things or people in one go. They literally connected both coasts and sparked a massive economic golden age which made it the superpower it is today, but for some reason after the war it was decided that cars are the only thing that's of importance, everyone needs their own, private vehicle. Only commies and poor people share their space when traveling and trains fell by the wayside outside of freight. Ironically Russia has a far better passenger railway network and it's a great deal more barren and massive than the USA, so they can't even use the "the country is too huge!" excuse.

This may seem ridiculous, but the point is that the Gotthard Tunnel is in Switzerland, which is not part of the EU. As a political and economic entity, the EU does not want to be beholden to Switzerland for a fast and reliable transport route through the Alps. Also, the Swiss charge a pretty high toll for use of their roads, especially for freight trucks.

@@RudyBleeker One more reason to NOT like the EU

@@TheSlipCoach In this specific situation, what's wrong with the EU? Rudy's comment clearly shows reasons as to why the EU would fund a project such as this.

@@TheSlipCoach quite the contrary, this project is a prime example of the many benefits of the EU, being able to organize and fund such massively expensive infrastructure over international borders.

@@TheSlipCoach I hate the eu but I don't see why this tunnel is wrong?

an african looking bangladeshi with an arab name. What a small world

@@nishhnishh1088 Your right about that, & in this crazy world my nickname is “Max”. So most teachers call me The Outlier.

Forget it, nothing will happen in germany. Germany also promised (1996) to expand the train connections to the Gotthard tunnel and look where they are today.

@@thomaskramer4739 The problem in Germany with public projects is that every citizen can complain and every complain has to be heard. There's lots of multinational projects where other nations are already finished with building and germany is still planning.

That's no gouda.

@@andyharman3022 😅😆😂😃😅😆

After this ? Enjoy :-) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tunnels_in_the_Alps

@@brixtonianme9717 interesting! Ty

@@andyharman3022 cheesy.

Wasn't there a bridge planned? Meanwhile Turkey plans the 4th connection across the Bospurus.

@@RoadsFranconia only projects, never really planned at all

The Danes are building one between Copenhagen and Hamburg.

@@RoadsFranconia just except bospurus is over 10 times narrower than distance from mainland italy and sicily...

@@Yora21 Meant to be a joke I assume?

Imagination and fortitude wasn't what created the Apollo space program, it was the cold war. And, this is far more useful than the Apollo space program.

Correction - since the Big Dig in Boston.

@@hdaviator9181 Please explain to me how you measure the usefulness in numbers of having made mankind aware that they live on a small fragile point in dead, empty space.

We still have it. The problem is in any given project there are about 10 groups with authority to table the whole project, so everything moves insanely slow. The National Environmental Protection Act is particularly bad in this regard because it often mandates environmental reviews that can add years to a project.

@@slipjones2 This sort of thing is going on in the DC area. They're boring a massive series of tunnels to resolve capacity and backflow issues with Washington's 150 year old combined sewer-and-storm-drain system. The end goal is to reduce by 99% the incidence of sewage overflows into the Anacostia and Potomac Rivers. For someone who grew up in the region, it's just this side of miraculous to read about them figuring the Potomac will be safe enough to swim in in just a few more years.

To be true, there is no EU paying anything. The money comes from the countries, therefore Austria and Italy are paying for the tunnel, be it directly or indirectly. The EU doesn't produce anything in order to generate money. All money is taxed from the countries!

@@mikatu Really? All the money from EU comes from the taxes of the countries IN the EU?? Unbelievable, and I always tought it was generated from God. WOW

@@mikatu I understand that you were trying to be clever, but when money comes into the possession of the EU through taxes or contributions from EU nations (ultimately from taxes, again) it becomes the EU's money. Since they are the ones allocating some of the funds from the project, the EU is paying for part of it. Also, the European Central Bank is in control of the Euro, so technically it's all their money.

@@dagon1978it it doesnt come from taxes, but from extorsion

@@PBryanMcMillin an italian euro and a french euro arent the same, their exchanged as the same because eu ratified that even if that makes no sense

Sadly, you are so right. Hard to fathom that Japan, China and Europe have enjoyed super fast trains for decades while a coast-to-coast train ride in the US takes a whopping 61 hours. Oh yeah, we are so great!

@@danskehans The stretch of the I80 in my area has cracks and pot holes. Some areas get flooded during heavy rains. California is going through a drought and no long term plans to address the problem.

@Martin Højbjerg Well they (Democrats and Republicans) need the money to payback all the money they owe to them corporate overlords.

@Martin Højbjerg Nonsense - and you haven't seen the bill in its finished and final form, so how would you know?

@Martin Højbjerg First, the bill isn't finalized yet, second the aid to Israel was put in by your fellow Republicans. You go and thank them. PS: Are you Danish?