The $5 Million Homebuyer's Tragic Story: How Site Inspections Uncovered a Nightmare 

Builder was( Shang Gra La) I’ve been to this job 3 years ago it had these problems back then the Job was Disgusting!! Roof flashings and labour very poor installation l can’t believe they Never rectified ! Even the Pipes through the Walls

I wonder if these are qualified tradies?how hard is it to follow the building codes

There should be like a minimum one year from closing a company before you can be a director of another. Even five years.

@@nutsauce8351 builders fault.

@@markcarniato1567 true,he should have done his job properly inspecting the work

Shangri-La now trading as Shonk-grillya.

I noticed the two ovens straight away were the lowest budget appliances. not a 5 million dollar house fitting.

any recommendations of good builders that do a good job?

@@awharfsomewhere... Indians or Obaid Naqebullah not sure :)

​@@motlkingme

Always get 3 quotes...and yes, i'm a tradie.

@@ElvisPriscillaPresley yes thanks. I was lucky this time. The second call was the charm. Sometimes you just get a feel when dodgy Joe is quoting. As lovely as that young fella was, he was either pretty dumb and unqualified or just plain dodgy.

@@maggie6 Probably the blind leading the blind at this point.

In-ceiling gas ducted heater played up. 1st Plumber quoted $4k, 2nd $4k, I was about to set my wallet to evaporation but took 30min poking uncle google. Google returns the heater controller is the common fault and suggests all the same symptoms as mine. Find local company offering replacement boards with 5minutes of keyboard hacking. So 35min in I have the problem understood and solution. I asked both plumber 1 and 2 for effecting repair with board and they both declined and left me to do it myself. Job's now done and heater working perfectly.

Saved you 4k and you didn’t pay him 🤦🏻‍♂️

This applies to most industries in Australia the problem is too many middlemen taking the cream off the top for bookings and phone calls. I worked in transport/removals driving trucks the number of brokers that screw rates down and take 10 to 20 percent for a phone call and a few emails. They take no responsibility they have no insurance. If you ever move house and the removalist has ratchet straps in the truck you are not moving with a removalist, you have picked a guy who bought a truck and thinks any moron can do the job. If you have a grand piano and the removalist doesn't have a slipper you are moving with someone that has no clue about moving pianos the right way. The reason I stopped doing the job is most Australians complain about the quality of work but don't want to pay for quality work that's why you have so many non-removalist doing the job now killing the industry because that's what Australians truly want. Most Australians are happy paying 1500 to 3000 dollars to move in a rush with guys that have no clue jam multiple jobs on one truck instead of paying 6000 to 15000 the guys pack everything only your job is on the truck they follow the fatigue laws drive safe they unpack the stuff at the other end reassemble your furniture so now most of the real removalists are gone and there's not enough of them left to teach the younger guys and now you have a total gutted industry of cowboys that don't give af. That's the Australian way.

@@fuckencunts The problem is too when we are prepared to pay and do pay for “quality” we are still disappointed at the end and all that happened was we paid more for poor service. Furniture movers and funeral services are 2 industries where it’s a bit hard to know what you’re getting and once it’s over it’s a bit hard to do much about it

Haha

That's literally what our builders did repeatedly. That was all they were willing to do. We had to have the whole roof replaced then our lawyer sent them the bill.

Yep silicone to fix everything

Gotta leave the rats a way to get in...

Part of any building contract should be the owners approval for ALL trades who come on site. Their names and length of time in the business are to be provided in advance. References and a searchable database of complaints should be available. The reason you get this quality is the prime contractor gets to sub out the work to the cheapest and nastiest people he can find and then pockets the difference.

Why not just train to be a contractor yourself? Problem solved. Read the old Time Life books. All the answers are at the library.

Government gutted trade education and then sent it private. The private institutions put the price for the courses up and the quality dropped enormously in those courses. Ontop of this, the amount of employers that want to take on apprentices are either still very stuck in the "i was treated poorly so ill treat you poorly" method of teaching, or hire large amounts of apprentices to quickly slap up jobs with a single qualified or 3rd year on site to give instructions to them. When they become too far into their apprenticeship they are fired for costing too much and replaced. I was asked recently by a teacher friend to attend a few classes over a month to help out because they were short staffed and was shocked to see that it took 2 practical classes (16 hours) to teach people how to hold a screwdriver and install a wall mate anchor into a plaster wall so we are really screwed from a good teachers taking on apprentices point and a funding for better schooling point. Combine all of those points with weak regulation and toothless regulators that allow builders to quickly take money, build rubbish.. close their business and reopen the next week for more dodgy building and no accountability for their previous work.

@@Scoob609 Ironic, because normally Government is the one who makes things more expensive while destroying quality.

Wholeheartedly agree. Unfortunately us Aussie's now have 2 generations of "tradies" that are deadshit lazy, entitled, uneducated wankers that take zero pride in anything they do apart from their phone. A paid/invoiced 8 hour work day for them consists of 4 hours of phone time, 1 hour of toilet time, 1 hour of lunch time, 45 minutes of getting a new drill battery, 12 minutes of measuring, 1 minute of cutting, 2 minutes of installing/building and then 1 hour of pack up. When the deadlines start getting close they just slap it together as cheap, nasty and fast as they can.

@@Scoob609 100% they are stuck in the "i was treated poorly so ill treat you poorly" method of teaching, if they teach at all. I know, I experienced it. Is that true that they fire people that get to far advanced in their apprenticeship? I would of thought they would be more of an asset at that point.

@@alexwest4629 You'll find most jobs are a bunch of apprentices and a 3rd year or A grade. Most companies will keep a ratio of guys lucky enough to be kept on to supervise the chaff of early year apprentices who will either eventually be that lucky guy supervising fresh apprentices or the ones who get fired after reaching second year because their wages jump up unfortunately.

Exactly

Or live in it for 4 years after it was built. They probably didn’t care until they noticed the leaks. Can’t even put a toilet seat down so they’re not fussy people by the looks of it

U have to have multiple inspections but they were probs all getn a lil yellow envelope under the table the victorian building industry for residential is corrupt and dodgy asf no real tradies left

Must be something in the water that is killing people’s brain cells

Immigration. No-one likes to hear that, but it's true.

If you have 5 mil to blow on this, you deserve to get scammed.

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 For 5 million in the U.S. I'd get a lot more bang for my buck.

@tonymontana897 yes but it's in Briiiiiiighton

The dumb stuff looks wrong right off and is obviously so. You don't need to look further after that.

The company dissolves faster than they can put in the paperwork, and tomorrow "franks construction 2 electric boogaloo" opens.

Joke is an understatement

🎵jus' wanna eat my ziiiinger for dinnnner... go away i'm on smoko wooaaaaooohhh... 4'n'20 pies to help out the guys... time to dodge me workers comp... 🎵

This is great for the economy! All the tribunal hearings.. the funding for the government authorities (that exist in mane only).. the taxes, there's no money in fixing it otherwise it'd be fixed yesterday..

Despite not working OS, Building Surveying/Inspecting has been privatised here for years, no council involvement, but mostly organised by the builders themselves (no conflict of interest there). As the entire industry deregulated (allowed to regulate itself), from the late 1960's. The Victorian Building Commision found to be so incompetent and builder collusive the State Government simply rebranded to the VBA to cover up all. From volume Building, so much bad/defective workmanship, years through consumer processes, business biased & extremely costly VCAT with legal representation, and then utterly inadequate compensation for repairs/payouts. And years for bad tradesmen and Inspectors to be listed. And Building Warranty Insurance a last instead of first resort product, and generally refuses to pay out, an absolute junk product! I recommend to not build, or at best, reputable kit home, or build yourself. Australia's building industry is completely broken!

but doesnt the house need a council inspection before being approved for occupancy? you'd reckon the council would prevent this type of thing from being moved into

@@augustusomega4708 in the UK houses are inspected at different stages and lifts as most are two or three story town houses,checked by the NHBC here so footings/ slab first lift etc as checked with everything followed by the book eg- insulation, dpc and lintels etc all regulations to be followed as a ten year signed off guarentee is granted on completion for housing developments.

@@augustusomega4708not in NSW (Sydney included). We used to have council building inspectors but some were taking money from the builders/developers as bribes - so the government dropped council approval process and went to private certification and the builders/developers just pay the private certifies directly instead

What do you expect the tradies do...not eat like the sultan?

Just like Government's Greedy as.

But it should

You’ve knocked another nail on the head. Architects drawing designs that are not compatible with the known local levels of skills and supervision. I’ve been saying this since I moved to Victoria from the UK in 1996 that the building industry here is pretty useless at the interface of trades to trades. It’s every man and himself to do what they want, and they all blame one another when a problem arises. It is always ‘in the details’ that causes the problems. Where one trade abuts another.

For all the worship of FL Wright, his buildings are NOTORIOUS fir leaking. The Johnson Wax building, they had 5 gal buckets on their desks pretty much from day 1. It's still got to WORK, no matter how interesting it is.

No. Keep the original builder as far away as possible.

@@themacedonian188 afganistan Builder! Shang gra la

It’s a horrifically ugly home! Money clearly does not buy taste, it’s tacky and cheap looking.

no chance lol

Nass ? Your the Younger Brother of Shangra la ? His name is Nass! If it is You Why didn’t you listen ?

In Florida most insurance companies will not write a house with a flat roof.

What's the name of your company? I fix your shit jobs!😂

The Australian Dream needs to be renamed The Australian Horror

If you have 8 mil to blow and know zero about what looks right in the most basic sense, you deserve getting scammed. You can usually find moronic problems immediately and that tells you there's WAY worse you can't see!

That's the real issue... my experience is that inspectors are clueless and lack the brains to identify what is obvious to any reasonable human. On the other hand if you wanna sell a house or make an insurance claim, they'll nit-pick you to no end over completely irrelevant observations. For example 'your (exempt) pergola is not approved (because it's exempt so can't be, idiot!!!!)' or 'I can't see how hail has damaged your roof [naked eye sees hail damage all over], that's maintenance!!!' IMO there's a market for a lawyer with knowledge of building codes to do independent assessments for people. All building inspectors think they know what is/isn't 'up to code' but if you ask for a reference or challenge them, they give you a stupid look.

Yes black mould is not good for young lungs.

It wouldn't work, they'll just wind up the business name every 12 months and operate under a new one in an endless cycle. The most obvious fix is to stop foreign contract labour coming here, we don't need indians building homes with indian ethics.

Home is under warranty for 2 years non structural and 6 years structural… any waterproofing is considered structural, so at this stage the house is still under warranty. If the builder has gone bust, then the owner can make a claim against the home waranty insurance.

That would never work

Won’t work, Why not? They have laws like that and even more extreme in other countries and it works. Some of these builders & developers obviously don’t know what they are doing. how else would you stop this “happy go lucky” attitude these dodgy builders operate on and instead motivate them to figure out how to do things right the first time around?

Yeah well the idea is you get the inspection done BEFORE you purchase the house for $5mil…

@@rickjames3034 Not much sympathy from Rick. It looked good on the plans and in CGI though?😂

Vancouve has a leaky condo problem from years ago. I was at a meeting with some construction workers who were working on the first of many leaky buildings. They were on the roof of the building telling the architect and supervisors that because of the design it was going to leak. They were ignored and the building leaked. Now after years of beaurocratic nonsense we have a licencing system with a third party insurer that still allows idiots to build because the insurer gets $3,000 per house. These new trendy box designs with no overhangs are for the most part stupid

Oh so true. Did their best and still not enough silicone to do the rest...LOL

Probably about 3 Mil of that is the land. Still $2 is insane .

Dropping 5 mil on a home you'd think there would br some spare dosh to pay an independent inspector during all stages of build so this situation could have been avoided.. 500,000 grand or 5mil it's a crazy amount of money to just fling at someone and go I trust you'll do the right thing.. my heart doesn't ache at all.. cover your ar$e man! But yes the builders are dodgy that should be assumed unless proven otherwise!

That happening is on par with me winning Powerball this week

good luck

A lot of them probably have second thoughts when they see the quote. Service of this level doesn't come cheap.

This is a bit more than a missing screw.

Lived w a flat roof 43 years, it was fine and way easier to maintain than peak roof.

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 how’s it easier to maintain ??

In NSW (at least ) liquidation will not protect the builder, the compulsory insurance only kicked in ( or did when I was an active builder 20 years ago ) when the builder, died , was personally bankrupt or fled to another state ( since changed so that won't protect the builder ) if a judgement was made against a small Pty Ltd company the builder was held liable. Of course all this is moot if the builder structured his / hers affairs so he personally had no assets ( but then couldn't get insurance as to get the insurance proof of assets has to be given to the insurer ) The standard of work in this video is appalling and suggests the builder had little skills, few morals, I'm not in anyway blaming the owners but to spend $5m and not get an inspection is beyond belief.

@Ed APPI Here in Victoria we have builders charging for insurance in their contracts but never applying for it. 🤬

@@kevinhamling1963 Hello Kevin, I have been off the tools for 20 odd years ( retired now ) did building consultancy prio to retirement, it used to be here that proof of insurance had to be shown to council before the plans were released, that was before private certification so it has likely changed, I think in NSW the bottom line is the builder is still responsible wit or without insurance. But, you guys seem to be having a lot of building failures, I read last week it was around 1800 this year alone, not sure about ours but would think similar due the debacle with fixed price contracts and the big price increases post covid.

​@@edappi8172insurance is going to take a look at the shoddy work and say "that's not installed right we won't cover this" no? Then you're back at square one.

Pine gazebos really. The current generation will pass zero vehicles and buildings down to the next generation while anyone with cash scrambles to sweep up all the pre 2000s built things