3570K was my first "modern" CPU in a self built PC. I absolutely LOVED it. Got it to 4.4 Ghz with 16 gigs of RAM and a GTX 780. I miss that rig. I had so much fun with it and would say that the 3570K is my favorite older CPU.
man I love these old hardware videos. Messing about with older stuff is so much fun and its amazing how well tech has actually stayed relevant in the last 10 years.
I ran a non k 3570 from 2018 until two days ago when I managed to snag an i7 3770. While it was a pretty decent jump in terms of performance, the i5 still did basically everything I wanted it to do. I only started looking for the hyper-threaded i7 when I upgraded my brother's system to an i7 4790, saw what hyper-threading could do, and that the stuttering that I've experienced was pretty much nonexistent on his system. It's amazing how long 4 core processors have been relevant.
Yeah I went from an i5 3450 to the i7 3770K even though my cheap H61 motherboard couldn't do any overclocking, the hyperthreading and higher clock speeds still show massive performance gains when paired with an RX 580.
@@saudade_firefly i would have gone with an E3-1230 v2, its just a better binned i7-3770k and would have cost you 15 dollars, but the problem is quad cores are irrelevant now, and its only because you cant pair it with a powerful graphics card cause they bottle neck them fast this is bottle necking his gtx 1650, you also dont want to go any lower than a 4th gen intel chip anyways cause 3rd gen and lower are missing AVX-2 instructions on the cpu. might sound like that doesnt matter and a few years ago not really but a big handful of games wont even launch without AVX-2 support and that list keeps growing.actually if your going to upgrade in the future find a board that supports xeons (which most do) you can actually get identical chips to there i7.i9 counterparts for a fraction of the price.Or you could just buy an intel QS chip(qualified sample) of there i9 variant for half the price, just dont get the ES chip(engineering sample) cause its a hit and miss if its compatible with the board
Still using my 3570k @4.2 with 16GB of RAM paired nicely with an RX570. Certainly not a beast by any means but I’ve gotten plenty of life out of it. The fact that it’s able to play most new games at “some” type of resolution/setting level is simply awesome in my book.
I got an I5 3550, with 16GB RAM coupled with a very over powered GTX 1070ti. My 7 year old daughter seems to love it, and it's a nice little ITX build. I have a small portable monitor and it's a nice pc that I can whip out now and then. Keeps my kids off my I9 with 3070ti rig at least. I haven't tried anything recent on it, but I know it can handle some of course with some reduced settings.
I got my daughter a very cheap (74$) used PC: i5 2500k, RX 480 GPU and 16 GB ram (it has some broken USB ports). It runs very very well honestly (she plays various fortnite games). It even loads fortnite rounds noticeably faster then my i5 3570k rx 6600 build (have no idea why)
I still have this cpu in my current rig and I was planning to upgrade my GPU to gtx 1650 or something similar so this video helped me a lot. Thank you 👍🏻
Change out the GTX 1650 for an AMD GPU for better frames due to Nvidia Drive overhead on lower-end processors. See Hardware Unboxed video on Nvidia driver overhead for more details
@@solocamo3654 The i3-12100 is faster than the i7-7700 in this video I'm linking. Sorry you got to copy and paste it otherwise youtube won't allow it the comment to be shown JH8UTc6lwX8?t=929 But if you take the time to watch the entire video you'll see on the lower-end intel cpu's the 6650 XT SMOKES the 4090 due to driver overhead in some games. Take a look at watchdogs as an example...
Hi Steve, I notice you make most videos about old i5's and come to the conclusion that it manages, but is let down by its lack of hyperthreading. I'd like to see more old i7's and how they do! Maybe even a comparison video from first to 5th gen and how they compare to modern budget/midrange?
Sadly these days hyperthreading won't do much. 60-70fps is not really playable in MW2, I know because that's what I get even with my modern 4c8t 12100f with my RX 6800. I'll be grabbing a 12700KF the moment I can afford one
I just got done building my own VPN server, and I had an old i7-870 kicking around, so I used that with 16GB of DDR3 RAM and a bunch of NAS drives in the 5 SATA ports on the motherboard. So far so good, but I'm surprised this i7 is still as functional as it is.
@@richardp3350 yeah, that's very true. I ended up using an 750W Corsair for the power supply. It's the newest thing in the machine. I'm also using an AIO pump for cooling because again, it was just sitting there, fully functional but nothing. And who couldn't use a little more VPN/NAS server in their lives?
Love this video, my first CPU was a 3570K back in 2013 when I got into PC gaming. It did more than I could have ever wished for, I have since upgraded and passed the 3570K onto a friend who has also just recently upgraded. He will be passing the processor/ram/motherboard combo down for the second time where I'm sure it will continue to be a beast. Great memories of building my first computer and having it be everything I could have ever wished for and more, I feel old, I miss those days.
This processor is awesome and overclocks like a beast. I built a second PC out older spare parts, and keep it hooked up to my 1080p living room TV. I have my old 3570k in it, overclocked to 4.8 GHz, and it still handles just about everything at 1080p 60fps. Like you showed, it does struggle with some newer stuff like Elden Ring, but other than that it holds up very well.
I have an i7 3770 with a lovely msi z77ma-g45 motherboard and I have a lot of affection for it. I gave it to my girlfriend and her kids when I didn't need it anymore but I always check in on it to make sure they're not abusing it, haha.
hahaha i have the same "syndrome" when my wife uses my computer, i need to check if she uses it well and not doing s**t on it! Coz i know she likes to download tons of mods for the sims, but never clean up the xxGo of archive when she is done lol
Would be very interested in a sandy/ivybridge mega comparison. But I'd also like to see haswell and devils canyon or maybe even broadwell in the mix. It'd be pretty cool to dedicate a few videos dedicated to the kings of the ddr3 era
@@andyshtroymish4997 I always fancied getting a 4790k or 5775c, to pair it with some really high end ram and see what they could really do, but it may not be worth it now
@@shreddherring I had picked up a 4790K/GTX 980/16GB rig for $170 earlier this year. The motherboard had booting issues so I started looking at replacement boards. That's when I realized I could sell the 4790K for close to $100 and just snag a Ryzen 3600/Mobo combo from Microcenter for like $120. So I did just that. Had some DDR4 overstock so made the value of the PC much higher for resale. The Haswell chips are definitely holding up better than the Sandy/Ivy Bridge chips (still have my 3770K off to the side) because of the instruction sets, but it's hard to justify building a used PC from scratch with them. However, Xeons are dirt cheap and are a great way to get i7-like performance pennies. I've been snagging Xeon 1230v3 chips for like $25 and they perform on par with an i7-4770 non-K. Great to sub in an old office PC with a cheap card like a 1050. Crazy to think these chips are a decade old now
I'm currently using a 3770K, had gotten a a 1680 v2 a couple of years ago, but had to go back to the old setup due to energy costs. The extra cores really help for photo editing, but unfortunately made no difference for gaming, possibly because I dont have the right games that can take advantage of them, so, in hindsight, 4790k might've been the better buy!
Just bought a fancy 1155 motherboard that came with a 2600k for £30 so i could do some overclocking, but when i used to use a 4570, i'm curious to make up a bench and experience the beast i could never afford. I thought another good video idea i thought you might be interested in is exploring the business spec AM3 Triple cores back when AMD was in that funky era of unlocking chips and funky core layouts. Wikipedia 's AM3 list pulls them up, i believe theres a B71, 73 and 75 which i have and clocks higher than the flagship consumer black edition. Its a bit like some older xeons intel had that had a cache and clockspeed advantage. with an HD7970 i think it will do well for some older games. not long now before that system is ready but thought it could be a nice idea where you could compare some stats from older CPU benchmarks such as this 3570k.
I had a 3570k in a home theater PC until a week ago. Upgraded it to a 3770, and I have to say it made a big difference. 4 threads just doesn't cut it that much nowadays, especially 4 old threads.
I finally upgraded from my 3770k last month to a 12900k. I was holding out for a while, but Call of Duty consistently had the CPU pegged at 90% usage, pushing a steady 60fps at 1080p with a 5700xt. Now I'm getting 110fps on average. I still have the 3770k and it's system as a backup. It's still a solid 60fps system.
Hi Steve, I've been following you for ages. We both had very similar systems with a pentium g3258 then upgrading to an i5 4460 then purely by coincidence. Love your content👍 I was wondering if you'd consider doing a video on a "budget gaming pc" containing a 4th gen i3 8gb of ram and a GT 1030. I've seen a few local and online stores selling these as their "entry level" gaming PCs and was curious as to what they could actually run. Keep up the good work man
Exactly why I went 4790k over 4690k back in 2014. That extra $100 easily got me many more years of use. That 4790k is still paired with a Vega 56 for my living room PC.
I think when you’re growing up you remember your first pc 🥳🤩and it’s gaming experiences quite well 😇and you never get that same feeling or buzz with a newer upgrade 😒 despite being able to do more with it. Your first of anything 😉will always be your most remembered 🥰💪
Love my 2500K, still going strong. Motherboard and memory original too but the rest has been replaced over the years. 980 GTX and an SSD keeps it swift enough for now.
I don't have this model, but I do have an i5 2500 in my current PC. Paired it with a GTX 1050Ti. With the games I regularly play, it holds up quite well. Does a fine job with console emulation.
@@LanaaAmor No, just the regular version. I got it for a decent price few yrs back. I am from Malaysia, and the price of secondhand hardware including CPUs are variable, but it is still possible to find these CPUs for less than RM 100 ($25 approx)
@@LanaaAmor not a lot . Its about the same power like a amd Ryzen 1200 or Ryzen 2200ge . Personal if its a upgrade and fits in your board . Wel i pay for the i7 model about 40 euro. For my little brother his child . I pay for a i5 2500k witha gigabyte board and 2x4Gb ddr3 40 euro . But personal . I wil go for a i7 model . Its just have more headroom for games. I you go for a use systeem . Go for a Ryzen 1000serie . With a b320 chip. Its about 50/80 euro for a set.
@@dyslectische wow i5 2500k with 2X4gb for that price is a steal! Ryzen and i7 are expensive here but there is an i7 2nd gen with 1050ti and 8gb ram for 250 dollars. Is it worth it?
Ivy Bridge is the bridge between Windows 10 and XP too - I have a triple boot system with XP, 7, and 10 and they all fly on this legend of a CPU. What a beast.
I've built my younger son a Dell Optiplex system for when he comes over for the weekend. It has 16GB of 1600MHz DDR3, an i7 3770 and a GTX 1650 I bought used for €120. I was really surprised at how good everything runs so well, like RDR 2 and the latest Warzone. Pretty incredible for a 250 euro computer.
Please do a follow up of this series with a 3770k with a same settings overclock? it would be interesting to see how much HT benefits titles that can take advantage of it :)
Had the 2600 in 2012, then upgraded to the i7-6700 which i'm still using with an RX 6600. I'll probably upgrade in a year or two though because it start to show its limits.
A very interesting video. I always wonder how good these earlier Intel i5 4C4T CPU preforms. Before 2021 I was using an i5-4460 iMac as main computer and a Lenovo SFF prebuilt using i3-4130 with 1050ti for Windows only software/games. The i3+1050ti combo can handle almost every I throw at them except some CPU intensive games like City:Skylines. Later my iMac is broken and I replaced it with a R5 3600 system. it is so good that sometimes I would wonder what would happen if I built a PC with 1st gen Ryzen like R3 1200 instead of buying the 4130 prebuilt. Maybe a video of 3rd/4th Gen i5 vs 1st Gen R3 would be an interesting one.
I feel like they would be very tight. looking back at launch reviws, the 1200 was slower than a i3-7100 but could keep up with the i5-7400 in some games and had to compete with the Pentium G4560 in others. It sits about where an FX-8370 is at stock, and with OC gets somewhere between a 2500K and 1300X, while the 2500K with OC creeps close to a i3-7300 So with overclocking those old Intels will outperform the Ryzen 1200 noticeably, And without, they will still outperform it. Well on some games, in others it runs away from even the 2600K And there isn't much difference in performance between the SandyBridge, IvyBridge, Haswell, and even Skylake chips.
I've got one when it came out and loved it for many years. I had it paired with a lot of GPUs an it was that time i got into pc building / gaming. 😅 Nice to see that modern games are still running on this CPU so well. :D
I'm have a i7 3770k, still gaming ok(ish), some games takes a little longer to load, others are FPS bounded by CPU (because I have a RTX 3060ti, I know it's a huge bottlenck) but overall runs everything pretty well, this third gen intel core are a reliable beast despite lack of AVX2 and AVX512.
Cool video. I built a system on a shoestring budget and got one of these. As you alluded to, I swapped it out with a 3770 a few months later. I mainly played Microsoft Flight Sim with it and, to be frank, it was doable but rough - even after OC'ing it to 4.2. I paired it with a 1660 which made for great framerates in the air, but at big and busy airports I got truly diabolical stutters. Things are much better with 3770, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. C'est La Vie...
I love this chip! It was my first CPU ever when i started gaming on PC in 2012. After many years of retirement, i took it out of the closet, overclocked it to 4.2 GHz and built a budget system around it with a GTX 960, so i can give it to a friend of mine who wants to start gaming on well and has very limited demands (for now) until she has a proper budget. Definitly surprised me when i tested it, it's still going kinda strong for its age.
I sold my main gaming PC to upgrade recently, nothing amazing a 10600k with a 3060ti, I had an old socket 1155 Asus Z68 motherboard with a i5 3470 lying about, so to get by, I bought a 2600k for £30 and paired it with a RX 5700XT i had, and after overclocking it to 4.7GHz I was surprised how well it held up! It was holding back the 5700XT and I did get a few dips mid PUBG matches but it was perfectly serviceable. Paired with an older card it probably would do even better, its now going to make the bases of a retro Windows XP or 7 gaming PC paired with a GTX950, one of the last cards you can get official Windows XP drivers.
I'm still using this CPU and enjoying Cyberpunk 2077 with high crowd settings, high preset and high texture quality (on an RX 470 4 GB), I found that the immersion and atmosphere of a high crowded densely packed megacity is way more important than the stutters and FPS drops when turning the camera, also I only walk on foot to force the engine to load as many NPC's as possible in every area!
he is using nvidia gpu which has massive cpu driver overhead on dx12 games, so its going to be slower in terms of fps being produced by cpu if you pair it with nvidia gpu (10~15% less performance if you are cpu bottlenecked). This is why hardware unboxed says slower cpus run better on amd gpus.
Got my first "gaming" pc back in 2012. XPS 8500 and it had a 3450 and a gt 640 1gig in it. Still can't forget the first time I played gta 4 on it. Such memories 🥺
If you're upgrading from one, 3rd-gen i5 systems make great NAS and Plex boxes (especially if you can do Hardware Transcoding). Alternatively, a cheap SSD boot drive and basically any recent GPU will make it an excellent and snappy hand-me-down PC.
I still use this cpu in my second computer, it was in my main rig before but swapped it for the xeon E3-1240 v2. Very good cpu even today! The Xeon is still a beast for me, equal to the i7 3770. (sorry for my english)
Have a old I7 2600 in a system that just mostly used for general web browsing and some gaming on the side, still works well for me as a second computer
I am writing this post from a PC with 3750k which I refuse to replace. Until 6 months ago, it was accompanied with a GTX 670 and 16 GB of RAM. I changed to a RX 6600 and 32 GB and I guess that I will keep it for a couple more years. As always, good job 👍
Those older i5's still have quite a bit of life left. I built a PC for my sister with an i5-4670 and a GTX1650 and she is having a blast playing her games. She doesn't play the latest and greatest games, the hardest to run game she plays is Genshin Impact and that PC handles it like a champ at high settings on 1080p. Even could play BF4 with over 130FPS, which is a blessing experience, I bet BF1 would run really great. Seeing I got the processor in a full case with psu and everything for 10€ it is one hell of a deal to get into PC gaming
I just retired my 3570k have it as a backup still though. It played all the games I play and did a good job at it. Owned it for 6 yrs, bought used in a system.
Been using a 4790k paired with an rtx 2070 for a long time. Some games the GPU is the bottleneck, others the CPU is the bottleneck. Managed to build the whole system for £600 except the ram I had spare and I don't think it's lost much value tbh.
had one of these from 2012 to 2019 great processor ! i only changed it cause i like AM4 it has a great upgrade path i now have a Ryzen 5 2600X 3570k is a legendry processor along with the E8400 and Q8400 : )
I had an i5 3570K 4.5GHz from 2013 until 2021 (since 2015 with a GTX 970 and in 2020 I changed the 4x4GB 1600MHz memories for 2x8GB 2400MHz). The i5 3570K is a good CPU even for 60 FPS in several games, as Hardware parts in Brazil are expensive, I only changed the CPU for Ryzen 5 3600 because the i5 had a lot of stuttering in open world games like Gta 5 Online, AC Odyssey, AC Valhalla, State of Decay 2 and Red Dead Redemption 2. In RDR2 and AC Odyssey the CPU was at 100% usage several times, I needed to lock at 45 FPS in big cities to be able to play without stuttering. I sold my i5 3570K but in the future I will definitely buy an i7 3770K for my secondary PC.
I've had an I5 3350p, from 2013 to 2021 in a prebuilt PC by Acer (Acer Aspire mc605) with an Nvidia GT 625 2gb GPU. Never replaced the thermal paste and only upgraded the RAM from 4gb to 8gb, whenever I gamed on it, the GPU would reach temps up to 103 Degrees Celsius, It still works today and my dad uses it.
Older PC parts never die. They just make their way into your 6th "spare" PC....or thats just how I justify it to myself for having all these extra computers kicking around..
My PC is a beast from olden times now. i5 3570k and 1050 ti oc still do wonders for me. I recently discovered that they can play Detroit Become Human, played it smooth on custom-medium settings. I think they can pull some other games as well if I wasn't so pissed at low settings (Hogwarts Legacy). I got the pair so I could play Dragon Age Inquisition back in 2016, now I'm planning to make my next pc 'upgrade' (basically all parts) a graduation gift for myself. I'll build it so Starfield can run on high, hopefully the new components hold like those two
I find it pretty impressive that 10+ year old PCs can still run new games fairly decently. The 3570K is 11 years old and the GTX 580 is 13 years old! I remember a time where 10 years was a totally different world with computer hardware. Imagine in 2004 trying to run the latest games with a 1993 CPU and a 1991 GPU! HA! It wouldn't even being able to run Windows XP let alone any games! Around 2000 I had a high end system with a 1GHZ AMD processor and a GeForce 2 GTS 32MB for the GPU. It was a beast....for about 2 years. I had to upgrade sometime around late 2002 to early 2003. My main reason for wanting upgrade was the game Mafia. I loved that game but could only run it at lower settings. For my new PC I went with an Athlon XP 2800+ and for the GPU an ATI 9500. I remember the reason why I ended up choosing the ATI 9500. With some 9500s you could unlock extra pipelines and turn it into a 9700! It didn't work with all 9500s, some would display artifacts when the extra pipelines were unlocked. Luckily my unlocked with no artifacts and I had a 9700 for the price of a 9850! That was also the first PC I built myself. Those were good times.
This video makes me miss my old 3570k. Had it running in a mini ITX build overclocked to 4.6GHz and even though it ran hot, it never gave me problems with the Noctua cooler i was using. Wish newer CPUs overclocked like the old ones used to...
I still have my 3570k, its 10 years old, liquid metaled/delidded/relidded with cool labs first publicly obtainable liquid metal TIM, in my wifes computer, still going strong
I went with an i3-4170 when skylake got released(around 5% difference at the time, but significantly higher cost mobo+cpu+ram) and later on upgraded to i7-4790, when games actually needed more than 4 threads. Paired with an OC version of GTX 950 that I got on sale for around 150€(the cheapest GTX 960 was around 220€ in my country) and I got a capable gaming PC with a clear upgrade path.
I used my I5 4690k for about 8 years. It was a good chip that overclocked well and held it's own for quite a while. Load times, fps drops and stuttering in certain games meant I finally upgraded. Boy did it make a difference finally having hyperthreading though!
i had this cpu paired with a gtx 760 and it was incredible back then. I eventually moved to ryzen, and passed the system onto my grandmother in 2018 where she used it for almost 3 years before the onboard audio went out on the motherboard necessitating a complete upgrade. great to see that even now it still has some chops left for gaming even today
I bought this old ivy bridge processor back in 2013. It overclocked wonderfully - if I remember correctly there was more bang for your book with this processor than any other
It was less than $200 and performed nearly as well as any top line option at the time. i7 may have paid off in the long-term, but in 2012/2013, this really was all anybody needed. Mine's still running fine, too. Haven't even changed the thermal paste once, and still almost never goes over 65 degrees with a basic Hyper 212.
In our household we have a 3570k and a 4790k still in use although we do have newer towers. The 3570k is paired with an Rx560 4gb, the 4790k has an Rtx 2060 12gb. We connected these older systems to TV's in bedrooms of our house, the visuals aren't as good as when using our newer PC's but it does allow for gaming in most areas of our home. Nvdia Geforce Now for games that they can't run well on their own.
Retired mine in 2020, ran since 2012 undervolted at 4ghz. Served me great for 8 years and is still a decent cpu to this day. Running in a pc for my nephew at stock clockspeed with a gtx 1050 ti where he plays fortnite, rocket league and forza horizon and the cpu handles it well mostly bottlenecked by the gpu. For me it was time to move on from the cpu as even coupled with a rx 580 8gb it became more often then not that the cpu bottlenecked. First it started in prey, where i had to lower settings to reduce load on the cpu then it went on with assassins creed origins which seriously doesn´t run great on 4 cores. Nowadays i don´t even have a desktop anymore and replaced it with a ryzen 7 5800h coupled with a rtx 3080 in a nice 15" laptop. Works for me and even cyberpunk runs like a charm. Long story short, the rather high ipc makes the 3570k still a decent cpu, specially when overclocked in all games that don´t really utilize more then 4 cores. Lack of avx2 however will hurt it in some games where it bottoms out sooner rather then later. And yes the i7 3770k would have been the more future proof choice back then... but if you look at the i5´s 8 years of service then you can hardly say i didn´t get the value out of it.
I definitely appreciate your evaluation of this CPU. It (and it's Xeon equivalent) is still very capable for tons of great games. I do feel the need to call out one thing here - not really a criticism, but an observation based on your initial premise... "Picture this scene: it's 2012 and you want to build yourself a brand new gaming PC". You've paired this with what you call "a rather modest" 1650 GDDR6. The only thing I see wrong with this is the 1650 in question here is a good 250% the performance of even a GTX580.. having said that, I get that you're trying to show this is still quite capable in 2023, and it definitely appears to be.. so, nicely done.
I had an i5 3570k I got used, till I upgraded to an used AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, currently overclocked to 4GHz all core, in 2019. That 3570K was a damn good processor. Mine actually ran great at 4.8GHz all core overclocked and slightly under volted. It and the Gigabyte Windforce R9 290 I had served me well, but I upgraded to my current 1600X and a Zotac GTX 1070. That said, recently upgraded to an EVGA 2080 Super Black Gaming Edition card and have found the processor as my bottleneck. Hoping to find and upgrade to a 3600X or 5600X in the near future.
My first Rig I built had a 3570k in it with 8 Gigs of Corsair Vengeance RAM just like what you got there, except I went with an AMD Radeon 7950 card. It lasted me until 2020... solid CPU.
Know a guy still running a 2500k at 4.7ghz and just recently upgraded from a R9 280 to a GTX 1660 Ti and I have to say the old chip is still doing pretty good considering the system doesn't fall too far behind my Ryzen 5 5500 + RX 580 8gb. Miss the golden years of pretty decent future proof mid-range hardware and I have to say it makes me miss my old i7 3770 even though the old i5 was hot on its heels with that 4.7ghz oc xD
Yesssss! Recognition for the epic 3570K, Still have mine, as of retired right now. Even in Early 2022, Mine was De-Lidded on a Asetek 645LT Pushing a 4.4OC and would still chew up just about anything I pushed it’s way.
That CPU was the first one i've bought to build my own gaming rig, with the GTX 680TI and the ASUS p8z77-m mother board and 4 corsair vengeance 4gb ram sticks inside the NZXT Phantom 410 midi tower. man i freaking loved that setup and it carried me for a long time!
I took a i7 4790, 16 GB DDR3 and a be quiet PSU from an old PC from work that didn't post and should go to the trash. I assumed the Mainboard was the problem and ordered a used one from ebay. Put everything together and it worked just fine. Combined it with my old 1660s that I had laying arround. Tried some games and in most games this combo worked just fine. Even Hogwarts legacy is playable on medium. I ordered a little mATX budget case and gave the machine to my girlfriend. She is quite happy with it.
I went from a 3570 non-K to a 3770 non-K. It's not much to write home about. My RX 480 ran way way way better on my ryzen 5 3600 when i replaced the i7 3770. I don't even see a core 4 8 thread or even a 6 core 12 thread as being a viable purchase for an enthusiast in 2023, and for a more casual user the moment the ryzen 5 1600 came out 12 threads was the bottom. Usability is so much better there's no argument for 8 threads, and certainly not 4. Windows 11 is pretty heavy.....it's nice to have as few moments where you can't click anything as possible.....
Sandy bridge and Ivy bridge has had the most impressive lifetime I've ever seen for Cpu's .... I mean I'm still running my i7 2600k @ 4.8 Ghz with 32 Gb Ram and a RTX 3060 and I'm happily playing 1080p and 1440p high to ultra settings in games .... It usually don't dip under 45 fps average and with some games it actually uses the Gpu fully so bottlenecks are hit or miss with some games... I am though very overdue with a upgrade.
I had this monster with a Radeon HD 7970 and 16GB 2400MHz DDR3. Built it in 2012 and it was amazing. I upgraded the GPU and doubled the RAM over time but I only got a new platform in 2021.
@@RandomGaminginHD Hey Random, is there a chance you can test the i5 3570K again, but with a Radeon GPU ? I'm asking because NVidia driver overhead is a thing, and now I'm dying of curiosity on how much the difference would be in such a starved-of-resources CPU.
Tbh i've been quite surprised by how much punch these old high end chips can pack. I bought a motherboard combo with a 4790S for pairing with a GTX 780 Ti for an ultimate xp machine build i'm working on and it absolutely blew me away. Testing it with a GTX 1070 and RTX 3060 shows that the 780 Ti absolutely holds it back under windows 10 even. And for an almost 10 year old 65w chip!
Somehow stumbled across this and glad many have the same sentiment! I have achieved the "10 year upgrade" finally moving to a 13700k with DDR4 3600mhz from my overclocked 3570k @4.4ghz with 16gb DDR3 1600mhz memory. It's funny how day to day use, I don't notice a difference, but the moment I run a CPU intensive game, I never dip in FPS ever. Also scores over 10x the 3570k in benchmarks after and undervolt and overclock. My 3570k will live in for a gaming setup for my younger niece's and nephews! Still a fantastic and reliable CPU!
Hell yeah it can! I was rockin' a 3570 until recently. Had mine paired with a 1070 Ti, BTW- over 100% performance, above average, according to my UserBenchmarking.
I had a 3570K since it launched (OC 4.2GHz) and only just upgraded to the AMD 7700X last September. Let me just say that using the same 1080 Ti, most of my frame rates tripled. It was insane how much my 3570K was holding me back. Not in every situation, but enough to completely shock me. Obviously, faster RAM and NVME SSD added some to that, but I've always regretted that 3570K somewhat. The socket was end of life and my only upgrade option was a 3770K. I vowed to never again buy the LAST generation of a platform. In hindsight, I would have felt better about it if I had first purchased the 2500K, then upgraded to the 3770K. Either way... my 7700X is so good!
Funny coincidence seeing this video. The motherboard of my dads PC just died. It has the same CPU as in the video. We build (our first!) this PC in may 2013. At that time is was a very affordable mid-range/upper mid-range PC. It was very fun to build and not hard at all. Since my dad has less demand for a powerful PC now. We build a cheap Ryzen 5600G build for 1/3 of the price of the old PC. Saving on a separate GPU.
Back in 2013 my wife (then 1-year girlfriend) and I bought a pair of brand new Dell Optiplex 7010. Hers sporting the i7-3770 and 8GB of RAM, mine with an i5-3570 and 4GB of RAM. We still daily both machines. Hers maxed-out at 32GB of RAM, paired with an RTX2060. Mine rocking the original RAM from both systems (12GB) and a GTX1650. Still pretty nice systems. Definitely worth the money we paid back then.
People really underestimate old hardware. A lot of high quality gaming can be done as long as you pair thing up the right way. I used a 1060 6gb evga with an i7 2700 non k in a Dell as a “get by” between builds pc. It ended up being my main pc for way longer than intended because it didn’t leave me wanting for much.
I recently upgraded from a 3770K, and honestly I did not need the upgrade, I have just replaced graphics cards over the years and it has worked just fine, but the system was getting old. I went for AMD 3800X3D and I plan to keep it as long as possible.
Absolutely insane how 10 years now you still have a somewhat usable machine, back in 1990 when Amigas and Atari STs were around, 10 years earlier you had an ZX80.
And in 2000 a 10 year old PC would have been a 386 or Amiga/ST and none of these would have been able to run any moder games. In 2010 a Pentium III and Athlon Thunderbird would have been just barely good enought to run the latest version of Windows and that in a terribly slow speed.
I had a 4570k (4.4GHZ), GTX1060, 16MB 1600MHZ RAM, and it was fine. I was very lucky that the motherboard broke. Lucky because otherwise I would not have been able to justify getting the Ryzen system I was really dreaming off. The i7 Ivy Bridge and Haswells go for the same price as a Ryzen 4500 from new here in Denmark. I don't really get under which circumstances you'd pay that for an i7, given how cheap a motherboard + memory for the 4500 would be. But someone must be buying them.
I'm still currently using my 3570k since release (2012) partnered with my GTX 980 (2014) since release also. Still playing current games at 1080p to 1440p. I bought a 24" 2k resolution monitor last year and it's also a great purchase since my games are sharper even if I disable AA. Trust me, high PPI is an eye candy even playing at 1080p . I'll probably upgrade if this rig indeed can't play The Last of Us, just waiting for the release to confirm. By the way, I bought this cpu not to overclock, but to undervolt for less heat in the room and it did not fail me. I'm running it at 4GHz at 0.8v only for 11 yrs now.
I still have 3570K in my rig and apart from very few games I am still fine in terms of performance (60+ fps). I have it paired with Vega 64 and I still tend to be GPU limited more often than CPU limited. I don't really experience long load problems, like you described, CoD Warzone 2 was probably the only one, where I experienced it. I tried to overclock it on my Z77 Asus motherboard and 4,2 GHz seemed like an attainable temp target for my Gelid Tranquillo cooler, but I never managed to make it stable in games (I am no expert in OC and it is pretty hard to find OC guide for this processor nowadays), so I have it at 3,9Ghz, where it didn't need any voltage tweaks. I am salivating over 600€ Ryzen 7600 upgrade in my shopping cart, but I can't justify it to myself, simply because I am able to play all games that I want to play at 60fps or more.
I also don't have the loading problems he described (tested in BF2042 beta (because fuck actually playing that on a 3570...), Fortnite, and Forza (which since one of the post-launch patches has extremely long loading screens for the start of races specifically, but no frame drops while driving, nor long loading for fast travel etc)), with a GTX 980 and 8GB 1600MHZ 9-9-9-27 RAM, although my CPU should be renamed to 3570F since after a while the integrated graphics seem to have stopped working and it stopped overclocking too...
@@user-bf5sc8pn8x Yeah, you reminded me that Forza Motorsport 7 also got quite long to load, so yeah, long loading times here and there but still pretty rare.
The budget builds I'm currently selling are i5 4590s and 4670s, 16gb of ddr3, and an RX 470/480/570/580s or a GTX 1060, plus an SSD. Probably as low as you want to go and still play modern games. But, it can get someone PC gaming for surprisingly little money and parts are readily available. It lets me sell ready-to-go systems to people who simply wouldn't have any PC gaming option otherwise. Margins aren't great since I keep the prices low but the demand is high. - If someone were to build their own I'd probably suggest something different though.
my pc is old but new. i built it a few months ago but it does everything i want it to do. (streaming recording and editing) its a core i7 2600 system with 32 gb of ram and an evga geforce gtx 680 (its the ultimate 2012 pc) but i love seeing people using older hardware as their main machines
I ran that CPU with a 560 ti back when 3rd gen Intel was current, that i5 was for sure an improvement over the Phenom II X4 980 I upgraded from which ended up being so anemic I bought it and got rid of it within 6 months. I see people ask for tips or recommendations and their budget is around $250 USD and they have very shoddy 2nd hand markets where they live with used or new parts prices exceeding that of the UK or US. You kind of have to point them to this stuff, but these parts aren't long for this world given the physical age of the components and how they handle modern gaming work loads. Saw a person go through 2 or 3 560tis and a LGA 1155 motherboard, and they couldn't scrounge up the funds for anything better.
Man, I was using Phenom II x4 840 for forever until I went on my used parts kick and had a 3570, then a 3770......but a few years after that I broke down and rebuilt with a new r5 3600, board, and ram.....all that refurb nonsense was a waste of time, even though ivy bridge was a huge improvement over what I had.
This is my chip paired with 16gb ddr3 1600. Not OC'd, gtx 960 4gb, x-fi titanium, 2tb sata3 ssd, h77 chipset. Dual booting xp and linux for retro and daily. Does literally everything I need it to and fairly quickly, granted I don't play the newer titles.
I still use a Xeon Sandy Bridge these days and it's certainly capable enough. The biggest issue they have is the lack of AVX2 support. I'm pretty sure that's the reason why BF2042 crashed when loading. Other games like Forespoken and the DX12 version of The Witcher 3 crash after the menu for the same reason.
i had a 3570k at 4.2ghz paired with a HD 7950, came from a 2005 era pentium4 prebuilt and the leap was so insane i don't think it'll ever be replicated. it was my first custom build that lasted me all the way until 2018 when either it or the motherboard died and i switched to ryzen 2600. absolute legend of a cpu and i definitely could've kept it running longer, still have it laying around actually, might turn it into a keychain accessory.
