The 1988 Solo Tours by Jimmy Page and Robert Plant- Episode 14 

When plant is introducing the guitarists, you can tell who the crowd expects

As a life-long Zep fan, I'm just stunned at all of this footage I have never ever seen before. The archival research that goes into these video productions is in a class all by itself. Great work JCM.

What an excellent quote at the beginning from Peter Grant, on how to be a good manager. Under all that gruffness and minor thug tactics he displayed over the years, he genuinely believed in (and clearly loved) the band.

Saw the last two Jimmy shows at the Ritz. Waiting outside for hours to get to the front, no barrier between the low stage and floor, could have easily reached out and touched Jimmy's shoes at many points. The absolutely most amazing musical experience of my life. Singing along with the entire crowd to the instrumental STH brought tears to my eyes. Still have the ticket stub.

No one could ever give so much love to this obscure period than you Jose. Thank you.

I saw the Outrider tour in Austin, Tx. I remembered it being good, but watching these clips really brings it all back.

Presence was a great album, regardless of what RP thinks.

there's a semi-legal radio boot of Jimmy's tour in Cleveland, OH that's pretty good.....I would recommend making efforts to find it folks....good stuff! The worst part is I live in OH and was living in Akron at the time....I have NO IDEA how or why I missed this tour. I"m thinking that maybe I didn't hear it advertised and it wasn't promoted properly... Fortunately, I did see BOTH Firm tours thank good ness.

Saw Plant this tour, played Zep songs for the first time since going solo

It’s nice to see Robert Plant was gracious to bring Robbie Blunt on stage in 1988, when heard they had completely fallen out and we’re not friendly.

Saw JP at The Ritz. both nights. What great shows indeed.

I saw him in '88, New Orleans, LA. on the Outrider Tour. Satisfaction Guaranteed.

So much great stuff for a music nerd like me.

I remember the first time i saw a cd of Page's Outrider album I was in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I had just joined the Navy and was going to radar school. A friend who i was in radar school with was a huge Zeppelin and just bought the album and showed it to me. My first reaction to the album was mixed, on one hand i was like cool Jimmy's playing again and on the other hand i was like Ah who cares it's not Zeppelin. I didn't get a chance to see it because the Outrider tour never hit the Virginia area but i might have gone since my friend probably would have convinced me to go. The first time i heard music from the tour was 10 years later when i acquired a bootleg called Midnight Moonlight which was supposedly from the Dayton , OH show on 10/21/88. I thought it was fantastic, his playing was very inspiring. Over the Hills and Far Away was amazing and i really liked his blues playing on Prison Blues. John Miles i thought was a fantastic choice for vocals. He sounded great. I agree that Jimmy should've done more music with Miles but for some reason they didn't continue. It's unfortunate because they really had something going I thought. The next thing Jimmy did was with Coverdale but again it didn't last. I think they did one album and a few live shows in Japan but they never toured the States. We did get some great music from Jimmy in the 80's but I'm sure he could've done bigger and better but then again he had achieved so much with Zeppelin already. I loved the 80's, there was so much great music being made and it was all around us on the radio and MTV. I really enjoyed the 80's and the whole decade seemed to fly by like a music video.

Awesome work JCM (as usual) ...Would be great if John Miles had done more with Jimmy!! (and yes, I loved presence) ;) :)

Midnight Moonlight is right up there with 10 Years Gone…a master piece.

I saw Page on this tour in Philly10/30,very good show

I went to those shows in Philly. Both of them put on amazing performances. Of course seeing page play dazed and confused was a highlight of my life and plant playing tunes like in the light and no quarter were spectacular

Jose you deserve an oscar for your work! Brilliant documentary series just gets better and better. 1988 was an amazing year for me attending concerts, seen both Jimmy's and Robert's solo tour at the Manchester apollo of that year and to this day Jimmy's concert is the best I've ever witnessed! Unforgettable! In fact i had the foresight to take along my personal cassette recorder and bootlegged Jimmy's show and is now on the LZ boots YT channel (sorry about my awful singing on stairway 🙄) Thank you so much for your continuing series on the greatest band ever! 👏👏👏 bring on the 90s !!

Thanks for mentioning the Jeff Healey band. Huge loss, I remember driving home and hearing Jeff was gone. I got to be friends with his band mate Joe Rockman's sister. She is such a lovely person. She used to walk Jeff Healey up to the stage, she said Jeff was just an amazing individual. I remember his Tuesday nights on 91.1 jazz fm in Toronto. He had over ten thousand 78 vinyl records. He put aside the guitar 🎸 to play trumpet in retro 1920's and 30's offerings. Thanks for , " when the levee breaks ".

Saw the JP Omni show in 88. So good. The 3D spinning laser hologram during Dazed and Confused was quite a treat. Still have the program and 2 t-shirts, one of which I've never seen elsewhere.

Jimmy Page's Outrider tour setlist looks awesome. Interesting to hear how Robert was the hand brake in relation to re releasing Zep material and unreleased material. Seems Robert was fixated in his own image. Mick Jagger syndrome is how some explain it. Just as a side note if I go to a chain CD store in Sydney in 2023 it's very easy to find Robert Plant CD's, but very tricky to find any Jimmy Page or Zep material. Not sure if thats because the Plant CD's a dust collectors, or he has a much better label deal.

Plant at this time was just like his commercial very commercial. Jimmy wore ZEP on his sleeve and everywhere in between. Jimmy is indeed my Music hero . Robert was and is and continues to be the very reason it took so long to get the live Zep stuff out . I am not a Robert hater he is my favorite singer BUT as Peter Grant is well known to be a Jimmy guy I wear that as badge of honor as I am too. So much music we could of had if ONLY Robert .... Jimmy I miss your guitar and have for years . Great episode As ALWAYS !! Nobody BETTER than the Zep NOW or ZEN . 🤘🏼🤘🏼

Missed Pages 1988 tour (I was deployed). Would have loved to have seen it. Friends that were there loved it. Jason Bonham's solo? It did precisely what it was intended to do. Get the crowd going. If I was in the audience I would have been cheering my head off. Very Unique.

I hate when these episodes end! I have a fever for 2 hour episodes. These are so good. Thanks for your hard work on these Jose. I missed a lot during those years. These are very educational for me. I love our guys, but you are an unbelievable Zep Head. ❤. Can’t wait to see the next episode!!!!!!!

I saw Plant on that '88 tour, it was the first where he played Zeppelin stuff on stage. I remember the biggest response was when he went into I'm in the Mood. I know we appreciated the job his band did with the Zeppelin material, because the "reunion's" had been such a massive let down. I have to try and get over my complete disdain for the '80's, it's my own hang-up. I had an awful time in the '80's, lost a close relative to suicide, had a significant drug & alcohol problem, it was not fun. I'm slowly starting to see the time through different eyes, I think these videos have helped in a way. So, thank you Jose! You have done a magnificent job with everything you have put up for us all to remember, and enjoy. I have been rather silent on some of the other videos, but I feel the passion and the work that you do needs to be addressed at every opportunity! This is my favorite series and I have turned many of my old mates on to it, because of your dedication and passion. You should be proud of what you have produced. And, your playing is blowing me away every time I hear it! Thank you mate!

Yet another great insight to the post Led Zep window, and again JCM, you continue to provide such quality material.... Every time I see Plant, and this may annoy people, I dislike him more and more. The ego laid bare, and in times where he complains about the Led Zep legacy, but continues to milk that legacy by playing those songs that made him famous in his own band, most likely knowing very well it's going to draw attention to him. Diplomatically ragging and mocking Jimmy under a thin veil is something that makes me really not like Plant more and more. Without Zep (Bonham, Jones and Page), Plant would be nothing. NOTHING. Yeah, he had his little band after, but I suspect it was driven by those hanging out for the very Led Zep numbers that he (Plant) often whined about. "Physical Graffiti was the last good record *** I *** made. Says it all. It wasn't just you Plant - I feel like saying : " Go f*** yourself". Rant over.

Man... Jimmy sounded great in his 1988 tour! And John Miles was amazing! I wish I would have seen them in concert. Unfortunately, I was only 9 years old in 1988.

I più grandi di sempre mitici i led zeppelin

Peter Grant should be in the Hall of Fame !!!! I didn't have a problem wit bands sampling Led Zeppelin I thought it was great on the Beastie Boys debut made me a fan. I did see both Page '88 and Plant '88 tours when they came through Chicago and loved them both. Very good overview of the tours Jose !!!!

Plant should never say anything about stealing music ever!

I’ve been a fan of Zeppelin, as a group and individually, since about ‘88, having only just been born when “Houses of the Holy” came out. Watching these thoroughly excellent mini-documentaries every week has increased my listening of their catalogue by about 500%. And deepened my appreciation of their music and of them personally. Robert, in particular, has an amazing work ethic and intelligent attitude toward music and the world in general, IMO.

Another amazing & informative documentary, I learn something new each video. 😊Great Job JCM !

Was at that 77 Oakland show..Jimmy was "rough " 1st 3 numbers but got it together..Plants vocals were the highlight imo

Saw both tours. They were a joy to attend.

14:27 Europa is a great song and when he nailed the feed back it’s 🤌😤🥺🥰🔥🔥🌶️. It gets me passionate!!!

6/11/88 Tempe was everything to me. . 15 and homeless. . I still made it. .9/17/88 I made it there too. .

Yes!!!! So Good JCM Why Jimmy didn’t work with John Miles again is mind blowing

Thank you so much for another great episode. I have enjoyed every minute of it. Rainer from Germany.

"Happiness, no more be sad Happiness, I'm glad" My feelings when I see the new episode in my feed.😁🙏 Thank you for your hard work on these vids!

This one is the best you have done so far. Love you man X

Well done. Nice Job!

Quick question JCM. Have you ever watched the cover version of "Dazed and Confused" by the all-girl Zeppelin tribute band "Zepparella"? Other than their average singer, the rest of the band, especially the guitarist, just puts on a clinic. Their guitarist even does the bow almost perfectly note for note.

THANK YOU!!!🔥🔥❤️❤️

Excellent episode, thanks.

I attended Robert's 1988 show in Great Woods, in Massachusetts....fantastic show. Another great video....thank you.

🌠OH YEAH ! Another Good 1 !!!

Another excellent episode. Well done putting these together. 👍

The CJ Makintosh clip from 11 mins..I remember seeing that the first time round. Mesmerised

JCM, you've really been outdoing yourself with each subsequent video. I love the long length of this one, as there was just so much to cover and it really adds a ton of depth to the overall Post-Zeppelin story. BTW, that Outrider "lunch box" looks cool, I guess they only made one for that specific promo? Something like that would've been awesome to have.

I was at the back to back shows at Worcester Ma. We all thought one of them would join the other on stage at least one night…… alas it never happened. Plant did come out with a Page concert shirt on for his encore as a tease, cool but that was it. Still great 2 nights.

Will you continue the post Zep series into the 1990’s? The Coverdale/Page album and short tour was brilliant.

Thanks from Brasil!!!!

Lmao I absolutely LOVE Hotdog.... if I could only do one Zeppelin cover live that would be it lol.... would be a very fun song

13:28 blues for Salvador is 🤌

Great job my friend. I deliberately starve myself of Zeppelin leading up to one of your videos. Such cool content, I thought I'd seen every rare thing they've put out until you show me otherwise. As for Pagey and Robert touring separately? I'm not sure who I'd choose to see if I had to pick only one? Maybe Pagey. And as for drum solos, I've never really understood them, perhaps the idea came about so they could let out some steam (doing fills) while the rest of the band took a break. But it was good to hear page n plant doing Zep songs again. Thanks once again ✌️😊

My dad is sixty-six years old and has been a Zeppelin fan since he was a teenager. He met the band when he lived in London and he was never the same. I was born in 1986 and naturally, I've listened to their songs every day since I was born. It's the only band I listen to every day. Zeppelin is like the air I breathe, my emotional food, the sun that warms my soul and the moon and stars that beautify my nights. Thanks a lot JCM! ❤

🌠PUSH ! PUSH PUSH YEAH ! GOOD SOO FAR !

Earning 20% of Zep was more than a 100% of most big name bands.

I really enjoyed seeing Robert and his band on May 17 of that year @ Brendan Byrne. I thought they sounded great and had a lot of energy. Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble were the openers. Stevie was a force of nature - just amazing. R.I.P.

Another great one, thanks man! I really like how you waited a full 13min before you started narrating and just let the cast tell the story. Well done...excellent restraint. And you weave these stories so well, including the tangential stuff like the Santana/Satriani bits. I'm with you on the Jason drum solo. Too long, too much goofy 80s nonsense. I hope you keep this going long enough to cover when Jonesy started making more public appearances. I admire his post Zep work the most.....staying mostly under the radar, and we he did pop up, he kinda proved to me that he was actually musically the heaviest of the Zep members. And he generally keeps his mouth shut, which is always good. I do wonder why Page doesn't mention that he might make more music with Jones.....I wonder if there's some bad blood there?

I saw Brian Setzer play in a tiny club in Cincinnati from the front row back in the day. Maybe the loudest guitar I have ever heard. I’ve seen hundreds of rock concerts in my 61 years.

Great!

🫢was the answer’59 les paul😵‍💫didn’t jimmy look way younger than 44 in ‘88 😩never seen any of that footage before awesome jose☝🏻

Another amazing video and I thought Jimmy said someone stole some of his tapes and that’s why outrider was a single. Looking forward to the Coverdale/Page reissue and I don’t think we’ll ever see new music from Jimmy as he’s stuck in the past.

In 2023 fans still do not believe Led Zeppelin expired in 1980.

Sorry Mr. Plant, but - *_In Through The Out Door_* - is great music. And I rank THAT album above 4 other Zep ones too. And I am probably the ONLY fan of . . . Ahhhhhhh *'Hot Dog'!*

Jose. Another great job. Firstly is anyone in Rock cooler than Jimmy Page? Secondly I find Robert Plant's evolution & growth in the 80's/90's fascinating. Very complex and compelling personality: He calmly and intelligently rationalizes why radio dee jays who were cutting edge in the 70's sold out in the 80's to corporations because they had bills & families to feed but at the same time he refuses to play Stairway??? LOL. I find his dismissal of the PRESENCE album in hindsight to be a perfect starting place for you to dive deep into a video doc for that. Dark days in a wheelchair for Robert and what else was going on during that time? Robert always seems to have a LOVE/HATE thing with Led Zep. I feel there is something within that music family that has never been clearly explained.

I've been watching since the beginning, and I am a fan. Did you play the guitar on the intro? I notice that the guitar playing over the intro almost lines up with Jimmy Page's 1988 clip that looks like he's doing the Over the Hills and Far Away live riff. Is this a coincidence?

i saw plant 2 times, 88 and 90. i got to see page with the black crowes which was as close to as awesome as seeing zep as possible. in fact, the fullness and tightness was probably a little better. ironically, the 2nd time i saw plant, crowes opened for him.

I'd love for you to do a postcript to this series focusing on how they ended up doing the 2007 show.

Brilliant Episode: Jose, you never cease to amaze me. Thank you for all the footage and commentary. This segment was very interesting. I thought Jimmy's tour was brilliant. I was supposed to see him in Louisville, but he cancelled because of the "flu." Honestly, I think he bit off more than he could chew by picking the same venues as Percy. Jimmy should've started off by playing large night clubs and work his way up to Madison Square Gardens. I hate that he had low ticket sales, but this was the time MTV popularized looks over talent. Jimmy should've done the Roger Water's approach of starting small and ending in big sold out shows. Too bad Jimmy didn't use this tour as a stepping stone to make new albums and play new tours with different singers and players. Oh, what could've been....

14:47 Santana is my spiritual guide in guitar playing. His way of speaking is always gets me to listen. Very few people I can say about that. His guitar tone and phrases are in the back of my mind when I play ballads.

When are we gonna start the post Led Zeppelin Documentary of the 90's?

Hilarious that Led Zeppelin made comments about other groups ripping off other artists

Ah, Saturdays have a new meaning for me. It was very nice to get a better look at Jimmy's solo work. I think it's funny what Robert and JPJ say about their music being sampled. Poor Lenny Wolf. He will always have to live down the comparisons to LZ. He has a great voice but when LZ hear bands allegedly copy them, they have wasted no time saying what they think. Here's a "what if" question. If anyone hasn't asked this already, everyone that has read this yet another long-winded post answer me if you want... We all know Led Zeppelin disbanded out of respect after John Bonham's death. At least one member of a successful band wants to record a solo album. If John Bonham was alive, do you think he and the band would have recorded a solo album? We still live in a time when we fans would love to see a reunion especially since they're on good terms. I don't see it happening but that's understood. We will always love them and we're grateful and lucky to hear their songs at any time.

Common JCM ........ Your narration was conspicuous by its absence. I was beginning to wonder if you had downloaded a raw copy without your voice. We need you to walk us through this minefield of info !!!

“Too much Jimmy” WTF man? I’m gonna have to send in the ninjas.

I saw Manfred Mann’s Earth Band in 1976 or 1977 at a Community College near Philadelphia…Chris Slade was the drummer.

Watching this today, and reflecting on the whole 80s journey. Robert definitely had a lot to be proud about in the 80s. Jimmy on the other hand didn't and comes through when you talk about the 80s chronologically, but more importantly in his playing footage. Jimmy however, in my opinion has a lot a lot, almost Zep level to be proud about in the 90s. The Coverdale Page album, the Unleded album musically (not plant's vocal), his name around circles like Aerosmith jamming, puff daddy collaboration, the walking into clarksdale maturity, and most importantly his live playing... all the way till the black crows live stuff. I mean look at his 1998 level. definitely better than many of his zeppelin years ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eXM45pGSkhs.html. long way to say, please do a 90s page video 😅😎

13:20 Bella is my favorite song from this album

As much as I love Zeppelin, they borrowed countless blues and early 50s music for the entire length of the band, To point fingers at Kingdom Come and Coverdale is a bit hypocritical. Thanks for the great video.

Was this the Rockline interview?

That drum solo seemed to borrow heavily from Bonzo's Montreux.

Does anyone know what guitar Jimmy is holding at 18:15?

I worked Concord Pavillion show..The Firms 2nd tour..OTO flyers were placed on every windshield in the parking lot..if you're not familiar..do your research

Have tbh... Plant doing that Coke commercial was/still is a major disappointment 😂 Neil Young (can't stand the guy anymore 😂) made a song about everyone ending up as total sell-outs 😂 The only Neil Young song I still enjoy and respect a little bit now is 'Piece of Crap' lol. Check it out sometime it's hilarious 😂👍🏼😎

@ roughly 5:50 minute mark is when Plant had a seriously bent and broken nose 😂 I'd love to find out/know exactly who it was that socked him in his scnozzer and bent it as bad as they did 😂 He was wearing sunglasses in some other video interview I saw years ago and you could see his two black/bruised eyes lol. Was it a jealous husband or some scorned Woman? 🤔 The mystery needs to be revealed 😂

I can’t help but sense that Jimmy Page had some kind of falling out with JPJ in the mid-80’s. But I’ve never heard anything specific. Sad as I would’ve loved to have heard them collab beyond JPJ’s 1985 soundtrack work.

Okay @16:00 "The T-shirt." Just in case, I can tell you all about that preacher man Jimmy Swaggart, that piano playing, virtuoso Jimmy Swaggart, (who my mama played the piano like, with his style and gusto, at her big baptist church, too), was a big time preacher man caught WITH a prostitute, by police, in our local area where his massive church is located. This well known trailer park, housing both prostitutes and drugs, home to a local prostitute, who told all about HIM to the local NEWS almost ruined him and his church. Same ol' same ol'. (He HAD to save his church) and "HAD to save that young girl's soul too." He stated many times to reporters Don't you know? Jimmy knew all the details and the irony of it all. I think he stepped in that church a time or two to hear that big gospel church band he had. Swaggart had a very nice sound system too. "You just sometimes have got to get to the root of it all." As that's what Jimmy was all about. But who made the T-shirts?

Err Led Zeppelin complaining bands are copying them , what about all the black early blues singers they copied , pot calling the kettle black!

Jason's solo..embarrassing I thought so at the time

Plagiarism is an interesting topic when it comes to Led Zeppelin. I kind of felt they were pretty hypocritical in this regard and probably should have been above it all. They stole so much stuff over the years and Plant copied the singing style of several as well. And if bands went too far then sue them. Although even "Get It On" ripping off Kashmir was probably not winnable in court. They probably did make the right decision in not suing the Beasty Boys though as I think that probably helped attract new fans and was a net positive.

I love Jason, but that solo was awful, too much 80s technology!!!

Re the Page tour... I'm with JCM, I couldn't justify going after I'd seen the man himself sing Zep 6 months earlier... I've watched the live videos too and agree that there were some highlights, but there was also a lot of filler... didn't really want to hear Miles sing Zep... that said, if C/P had ever toured the US, they had my money... those Osaka boots are better than the P/P shows in spots.

One thing that kills me with 80s music is the chorus effect on the guitar. It takes all the balls away from the tone and many many 80s albums and live performances have this issue. I just noticed when Plant had Brian Setzer and the other guy as a guests, the guitar tone all of a sudden went from sounding really ballsy to blah because of said effect. A perfect example of this chrous effect ruining music happened when i saw the Allman Brothers back 20 years ago or so (yes not the 80s) and Dickey Betts had been arrested and was in jail, so they had to find a guitar player to fill in at their Great Woods mass show. Well Zakk Wylde from Ozzys band filled in and the guy could play the Allmans stuff, but he used a chorus pedal and it was like the worst thing you could do to that music imho. All of a sudden the in your face oomph of many many guitar players tone was lost and this blah sound was there instead. I noticed in your other videos youve put up discussing the 80s, i keep hearing this constant reminder of why im not a huge 80s fan haha. From the Keys and Synths to the Chorus on the guitars, to electric drums. The feel of the music suffered and this is a big reason i dont listen to many Zep members 80s albums. When Page n Plant did their first tour together in the 90s it was so nice to hear them take the music to new places, and the tone was there again. What are your thoughts folks, Chorus. Yay or nay ? Thanks for the videos as always and i cant wait to watch the one about Plant and the Crowes. Read the drummer of the Black Crowes book and wowza, i cant wait to see what you put together.

I saw Santana many times..Hawaii..opening for The Stones..always yawn inspiring..boring

Cool. I saw Plant...in 1985, Met Center Minneapolis. I faintly recall it being...confusing. It was full-on Plant show, with a Honeydrippers segment tucked in the middle. That’s where the energy got lost. It felt like 15,000 people were struggling, politely to get into it. Easy to understand as the music was completely different in virtually every possible way. I say Audience 1, Plant 0 on this blatantly vain attempt to educate the audience for his satisfaction...as pure the motivation may have been.

I will never forgive Peter Grant, along with his two wrestler thugs and John Bonham, for mercilessly beating and hospitalizing Bill Graham’s security associate in 1977

Of course Jimmy Page knew how to play some monster riffs but the more of these old videos I watch the more I realise just how terrible Page was as a lead guitarist.