The 2020 Volvo S60 T6 is a Charming Luxury Sedan that Needs More Passion Behind the Wheel 

When are you going to do Nissan Rogue review

T5 AWD is already available in Canada. Haven't heard rumours about discontinuing the T6 though.

@Keej Vaj only the nissans/infinitis with the cvt’s. All the nissans/infinitis are not junk they have motors that can run forever and offer the best value for luxury and performance. They also make the best looking mainstream and luxury cars. Also you get a lot for your money. They are not all junk. If you are looking at one with a cvt lease it or if you finance it get drivetrain warranty for as long as you can. But if you are looking at one without a cvt go ahead and buy it and you wont regret it. They make one of the best v6/v8 motors out there.

@Keej Vaj no one likes cvt’s lol.

@@nintendoatarikiller for 2021 Volvo will not discontinue the T6

I was like WTF why throw the damn key like that!?

So true it classy and good and safe car. That all you need

yeah, not every car has to be sporty

Im so sick of all these reviewers saying they have to be excited by every car , this would be great after a hard day to get a nice massage on the way home from work in a luxury sedan that wont break the bank. Oh and btw that engine sound is perfectly fine I think he has some sort of a grudge against Volvo at least that's how it seems!

I love red calipers! It would accentuate the wheel.

True, and 5.4 to 60 in a car like this is really plenty fast, most hot hatches don't even come close. The reviewer doesn't really get this car when he wants more 'passion' (louder exhaust, stiffer suspension for faster cornering and less comfort, etc.).

The problem is, according to many reviews the S60 isn´t that comfortable either...

Audi has always erred on the side of comfort over sport, and an A4/5 is much more comfortable than the S60 while being both quicker AND more fuel efficient for the same price. There might be a marginal safety advantage on the Volvo, but frankly the A4 is a more competent vehicle in every other department.

@@vomErsten On the comfort-to-sport spectrum, I’d honestly put the A4/A5 smack in the middle, and I’d put the S60 (R-Design aside) further towards the comfort end. A4/A5 are certainly more daily driver livable than many entries in this segment, but don’t seem to be trying to be as much of a luxury cruiser as, say, this S60 or luxury line C300 models. Fair point on them being faster and more fuel efficient at the same time, but I find their aesthetic to be sterile and conservative to a fault, personally. The S60 may not drive quite as well, but it has enough other redeeming qualities for it to likely be my personal choice over an A4/A5. That’s just me, though.

@@williamlong2682 It really does depend on the trim. MB is incredibly bipolar, with the normal trims being snooze-mobiles and the AMG trims being nuts. Audi has a tighter, more consistent ride quality that results in their A-level cars being a little more aggressive but their RS-level cars being too soft when compared to their MB counterparts. BMW is consistently the quickest and sportiest of the bunch. Overall perceptions of each brand are shaped by their performance options by the design of their marketing, and from that perspective is where I come from saying Audi is the comfortable/practical one. I've also driven an A5 and it really just floats along the road; not my cup of tea, but it was way more plush than the stiff S60. Definitely agree that the Volvo is a looker and the Audi is kind of bland. If the Volvo S60 Polestar Engineered drove like an Audi S4, I'd be a customer.

@@williamlong2682 I've driven a T5 S60 for over a year now. I'd say that gas mileage is average. At first I was bit annoyed (and you have to use premium gas) but then I remembered that this car is 4000 lbs and they use much stronger high boron steel. Long story short, you're much more likely to survive a crash with minimal injuries in a S60.

I was gonna ask about the reliability of these, good to hear they're solid!

We rest our case!!!!!

Helps that it has maintenance included too!

@@JamesRussoMillas if you care about reliability dont buy this car all that pressure from the supercharger and the turbo wear out the motor quick if you are looking for a reliable volvo get a 2015 or 2014 with lower miles with either the 5 cylinder or 6 cylinder they can last way over 200k miles

Our S60 was the worst car we ever owned. Never going to buy European again.

Right! His reviews confuse me. Saw one for a Mazda 3 and he complained that the backseats didn’t have heated seats. Like dude, the car costs 22k 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@stefanossmitty3318 yeah he wants all the bells and whistles for cheap price.

He’s a pretty annoying guy to be honest.

Volvo has been and is the safest car for the past 30 years. Plus they are super confortable and the materials used are way better than cars of the same price range. (So you wont have to worry about bad material selection or manufacturing errors caused by a rush to bring cars to market.... as you see with most Teslas). Volvo is only for the people who want luxury, comfort without the need to show off in the street.

There. Their. They're. All different.

@@georgesnyder5337 5 months later and still don’t give a hoot. Sometimes I’m just lazy and don’t want to hit the apostrophe. Along with autocorrect if it don’t fix it I don’t care it reads the same. I’m a math and science major for a reason, unless needed in a professional email.

@@anxheloripa449 Exactly, even when the major auto manufacturers get rolling on the EV’s, the quality will be better and actually work.

@@whatchis1120 what a CF.

This is a comment I was looking for. Similar to you except I have a 2015 3 series and I'm looking at volvo.

Yup just pulled the trigger on one of these after looking at a lot of different cars. The only other car I was considering was an A4 but I think this does luxury better and makes for a better daily, the sound system sounds a lot better too.

Agreed! I just bought a 2019 s60 momentum. I didn’t see anything else I loved in this class. He def has a grduge

Well let me drive it !! 😂

@Big Cod So Far so good, but I'm leasing, so won't really know the long term

@@encino78 I'm curious, why do people lease?

​@@HusseyStars Because it is smart. 1. Every 36 month you drive most modern vehicle. 2. With lease, you don't need to pull money out of the wallet. 3. With lease , you get free coverage and spend valuable time to enjoy the ride instead of looking for a car shop which will not fix your problem no matter how much you pay. 4. With lease payment you always get more for your monthly payment vs the buy. In short: you buy what appreciates and you lease what depreciates.

@Big Cod I have an S60 with a T6 engine since late 2019. I have about 16k miles on it. Reliability problems: - My backseat 12v was not working(fixed under warranty) - I had a check battery light(as per Volvo, it was 'reset' and has since had no problems) -I had a check engine light which was actually an emission pipe issue, which was again fixed under warranty. I wish it: -had a button to immediately engage the cameras. I put the car in reverse then back to drive to trigger it. -picked up speed a bit faster. sometimes the supercharger has a delay before picking up speed. There is a polestar optimized option but it doesn't on paper seem worth the price. -didnt wear the brake pads so much using pilot assist. Otherwise, it's a fantastic car. I'm not a very fast driver but 315hp is MORE than enough for me. It's extremely comfortable and this is an opinion, but I believe its design will age well a decade from now. I get many compliments on its look and comfort. The seats required some adjusting to my taste, but I love it. I'd say it's wise to get this vehicle with a warranty. I own and plan on keeping this thing for as long as possible. Every time I go inside, I take a look at the S60 and think, "Wow, this is such a wonderful car." Even years later.

Makes sense as the IS was pretty terrible when new, and it's ancient now.

Yeah... that's unfortunately not impressive. But I agree its a great car and deserves its due.

Right lol 😂 dude compares every single car like it’s a track car lol 😂

@@KuyaArbee I don’t get why everything has to get compared to a Tesla

@@Brian-zt5uw yea same... I never understood why people always have to compare....

He owned a miata lmao

@@KuyaArbee he never once did that , he compared it to the 3 series the C class , the G70 etc , stop being butthurt

Seat comfort, ride quality, and noise are the qualities I look for. Most buyers probably value these over pedal mashing too.

Because plush doesn't sell. Ask Cadillac the V brand DNA saved them , and the whole reason AMG , M , RS etc exist. Even Bentley has a racing team 😂

It’s because luxurious ride alone doesn’t sell that well. If comfort/plush ride was such a selling point, companies like Buick would’ve been a sales leader long ago. People spending 50k + also want their cars that handles and accelerates better. Sporty driving is also a luxury feature. Volvo can still achieve it without compromising luxury ride too much.

@@VaunShiz Granted luxury doesn't sell as well as it once did, however, the take rate on those sport versions aren't volume sellers either. The AMG, M, RS, etc started selling more when they were offered as trim lines as opposed to specific models. M-Sport versus M3, for example. It also doesn't have to be an either or. There is room for both sport and luxury trim lines. Most buyers are looking for the lowest price with a luxury name.

IKR ! soon it will be all those 32 in flat screens nobody bought screwed on the dash !

My Mazda 6 has like an 8 inch touch screen and I think it’s completely fine I have the top trim and I never wish my screen was bigger I also really like how Mazda lets u turn the screen off

Volvo in 2022 adds a 72" screen, big enough yet? :)

The size of the screen here is small but I would argue the phone like orientation makes this even more distracting than the bigger screens out there.

I love Savagegeese. He keeps things real. Doesn't jump on bandwagons and calls out the B.S. in the car industries that other reviewers seem to ignore.

Exactly, the reviewer syndrome. 🤦🏻‍♂️

I see the younger market is showing interest in Volvo.

The same issue happened in the 90s. The SUV was popular then.

Here in Sweden they are everywhere

@@GLDGTR here in the us, Volvo sales numbers are quickly rising

@@lamesamelame stfu

@@lamesamelame Volvo has nothing to do with the Uyghur crisis. And China doesn’t manufacture Volvos anymore, the production was moved back to Sweden. Geely just owns them now.

Edit! I was driving through "mexico" the other day with some others in fast expensive sedans and was shocked to learn that all Volvo's sold world wide are now limited to 180kph. So if top speed is your thing look elsewhere.

Not even close to an S-Class. The moped engine kills any illusion of that, along with the ride.

@@MercOne notice they said kinda like

Doesn’t matter. It isn’t remotely like an S Class. Period.

@@MercOne actually it’s the closest thing to an s class

Yeah if you’re completely ignorant about cars.

@@lastwhtknight3002 that was a nice hardtop too.

You are a wise man!

Agreed. I have a 14 year old Xc90 that’s lived it’s entire life in Chicago (we can have brutal winters here). No rust on the body at all.

@@seanm3ify I wonder what it is? 1 year old Tesla’s already have rust lol

That's because they are designed to survive the Swedish winters with millions of tons with fricking salt on the roads. Good rust protection is a must.

I had a 2003 S60 after 15 years of out door parking I gave it to my brother, it is now his daily driver. Not one bit of rust on the car. In 17 years it was only in the shop 2 times for 1 night each. Best car I have ever owned. Keep in mind though that the 2003 was designed when it was pure Volvo no Ford or China involved. The leather interior does not have any rips. I would rate it as doing everything good, nothing great but everything good, a perfect daily driver with comfort and style.

@@PL-mu1cp yeah they made some good stuff. I wonder if the newer ones will hold up for similar amounts of time. Audi is pretty rust resistant too.

It's a American made Volvo with lots of bells and whistles. What are you comparing with? Kia?

The supercharger and turbo sounds are so great.

People just love to bitch. Like all the comments on the lack of reliability with Volvos. I don't know what they're talking about since they are high in being reliable. Too many people say this because decades ago, there were issues (same with many other brands) and then say the new ones still have issues. No they don't!

@@jeffs6090 even then- we had an ‘83 Volvo DL Wagon- put over 250K miles on it and it was still going strong.

Mkz has ended production. Besides, it was an old design and would’ve been slaughtered in comparison to any modern peer

Yes!!

If it were be I’d probably pick this

So a 2020 Volvo with an MSRP of $70,000 will be $35,000 in 2021 and $17,500 in 2022? Of course you're speaking from an actual Volvo owner perspective, right?

@@JulezWinnfield that's not how depreciation curves work. But these Volvo's have one of the highest depreciation rates.

The SUV's and the wagons are what hold their value, as that's what most people want from Volvo. An XC90 Inscription is 65-75 new you can negotiate off that, after 3-4 years 40-60k miles their usually in the 30's-40's. Yes a t5 momentum in any model falls off as they are the lease specials, and less desirable. It's the same for bmw, mercedes, audi.

Turbocharged and supercharged makes for some nice service department profits.

@@lordhades9455 You clearly stated that a new Volvo depreciates by 50% after the first year. Perhaps you should re-read your initial post.

Yeah that's the question with these they've always looked good, but reliability is the question & they're expensive to fix outside of warranty

No issues with my 2017 XC90.

They’re generally reliable, compared to German cars

Maybe when they become electric allot fewer moving parts

@@xhonkeri4066 But there are still better choices available if reliability is important to you.

No one is going to Volvo showrooms for the S60 even now. Story time: I got interested in Volvo when they started taking performance more seriously with their previous generation S60. Then the new one came out and was gorgeous and was marketed as being sporty, and early reviews were encouraging. This year, I went to a Volvo dealer to drive a T6 R-Design based on this initial data; it was horrible. The shift paddles didn't really respond well, the steering was completely dead with a lane-keep that tried to fight me making a left turn, the engine had a delay on spool-up that the competition just doesn't have...not sporting at all. The sales person even told me they had been getting a lot of interest in the car from customers of other brands for its looks, but few buyers. I suspect because it drives like shite. So now that Volvo has publically committed to divesting themselves of ever building anything fast or fun, this car will die a slow death from neglect.

@@vomErsten I owned a previous generation 2015.5 V60, and the new gen S60/V60 performs better than the previous one, no question. If you look at the previous gen sales, there were barely any R-Design and Polestar versions sold versus regular T5 and T6 models. The shift paddles on an 8 speed auto were never going to compete with the dual clutch transmissions of the competition. The lane keep assist can be easily turned off with one button. The engine delay was not noticeable to me.. did you have it in the dynamic mode? Ultimately if you were looking for a sporty car, Volvo was never going to be the one. BMW, Audi and AMG can help you out there. Comfort and good looks? There's a Volvo for you. I ended up with the 2019 Volvo V90 Cross Country T6 AWD because I cared more about luxury and comfort in my bumper to bumper crawl of a commute, and this new generation of Volvos is noticeably better than the previous generation in that regard.

@@paulg9350 So, let me address that comment about the 8-speed up front. What you claim about an 8-speed automatic not being able to compete with a DCT is patently untrue. Audi, Lexus, BMW, and even Jaguar all use 8-speed automatics in their respective higher performance cars in this class and they are lightning quick. It is to the point that they don't bother developing the DCT anymore, and the only DCTs still in use are older models on mostly FWD-based platforms with lower power output (i.e. an A4 still has the DCT, but the S4 has an auto). Most of these brands are using the ZF8, but Lexus is using an Aisin unit similar to Volvo. Volvo simply did not tune their transmission well, full-stop. Yeah, it can shift on its own just fine but I do not ever drive my S3 in automatic mode and, since shift paddles were a front-row feature of the R-Design prior to MY21, I expect my transmission to respond immediately when I use them. Yes, I did have the car in dynamic mode. No, it did not have the Polestar tune on it, but from browsing around Swedespeed it sounds like that doesn't help much anyway (and Polestar Engineered models, by all accounts, also have atrocious manual shifting). If Volvo had not come out of the gate marketing the S60 on its sporty driving dynamics, I would have never given it a second look. But they did and I bet they were hoping to capture customers from Audi and BMW. But they didn't set the car up correctly to win over the more performance-minded among us and then they further sabotaged the effort by announcing their intent to suck the joy from all of their cars going forward, and that was that. This car is selling miserably and it's not entirely attributable to the rise of the crossover; it's simply not what people want from a luxury sport sedan. Heck, it's not even more comfortable than the competition; it's too stiffly damped with a skittery rear end, worse NVH, and the seats are just par.

@@vomErsten I still don't think the 8 speed is tuned poorly. Again, in regular everyday use, it works great. Compared to your S3? Definitely not going to be as sporty or responsive. Where is this marketing of its sporty dynamics that you speak of? All the ads I saw were about standing apart from the crowd and unique design, nothing about sportiness. Also, I was curious and looked up the sales figures. The S60 is not doing as badly as everyone claims anecdotally. For Q3 2020: Acura TLX - 5,707 Alfa Romeo Giulia - 2,291 Audi A4 - 5,958 BMW 3 Series - 8,243 Cadillac CT5 - 4,001 Genesis G70 - 2,732 Infiniti Q50 - 3,868 Jaguar XE - 400 Lexus IS - 3,629 Mercedes Benz C-Class - 7,215 Volvo 60-Series - 5,677

As a trained eye, I saw it too. Years ago in fact.

How true. Massaging seats? In five years, it will cost more to fix them then the car is will be worth.

Agreed with everything you said

Volvo's intent is for performance junkies like us to buy a Polestar 1 or 2 instead. Joke is on them, I'm more likely to buy an S5 or e-Tron GT.

Agreed.

Please do the S90

Sells more than Lexus IS last year!

Sedans are dying right now. People love SUV:s and Crossovers right now.

Not really. It's a slower, less comfortable, less feature-filled car than the Germans and lacks the brand cachet to help boost them when CUVs are taking over. Basically, mediocre car begets mediocre sales.

@@vomErsten Google "why sedans are dying" and READ the sale numbers brand to brand and what cars Mercedes, BMW and other car makers are producing and selling right now. Come back then.

@@RadioactiveSaddam I did this already while compiling a rebuttal to post on Swedespeed to a blind Volvo fan who was trying to rationalize buying a decontented MY21 S60 instead of a superior MY20 S60. Volvo S60 sales are getting slaughtered by Audi A4 sales, and Audi is the weakest of the German Three. Maybe you should take your own advice and do some of your own Google Fu. I suggest CarSalesBase.com as a good place to start.

Over here in Sweden they are everywhere

Volvo is unreliable?

Except it's not made in China. American ones are made in South Carolina, Engine is Sweden, Transmission is Japanese.

The SUVs are a different story, at least a family members 2015 XC60 with the turbo 6. I looked up the value one day it was still surprisingly high compared to what i was expecting

@@niuhuskieguy I agree. I’m interested in an XC40. I normally never buy new, I only buy certified used or leftover because of less depreciation. Leftovers are out of the question because the XC40 actually sells good and they have none. The dealer only had one used one ever come in. A 2019 T5 momentum traded in for a bigger XC90 that for some reason already had 70,000kms on it and they wanted $40,000! Even off lease XC60s hover around $45,000.

Markets must be crazy right now then right.. I’m seeing a 20 T6 inscription for $31,000 and this is 2 years later than the original post??

Stay tuned! We have an S90 scheduled for loan next month :)