Marching To A Different Drummer | 2020 Volvo S60 

3:13 I wish it made 495 ft lbs.

fwiw, hope you correct the pricing... since it is a major factor and made your referencing to it sound bizarre...

I also think you guys missed a beat on the limiter. Volvo announced its implementation starting in May and that Care Keys come standard on limited cars. You will find none of the MY2020 Volvos in the US come with Care Keys as standard, certainly not S60s because nearly the entire inventory was produced before May as the plant was idled due to a combination of COVID-19 and low demand. The MY2021s have started arriving, however, and they all have Care Keys, confirming the limiter.

As this Volvo is more then 187 inches it is not a compact car even by US standard. The room in front of the center console fits my iPhone 15 Pro Max perfectly also with the USB cable connected so pretty sure its made for either the guy who does not put a wallet around his/her phone OR the guy who wants to forget his keys in the car. 😉

Tesla 3!!!

hughn1 That car is electric, I am talking about gas powered vehicles

*cough* amg lmao *cough*

Porsche 911, Panamera, and 718. The BMW 2-series coupe is pretty reserved, too.

@@vomErsten 911 718 are rear engine cars , panamera might be a better example, especially in comparison w the big grills of cayenne and macan

Why do I care? It's not like I get to see them, like ever.

claiming to be the safety leader and not using amber blinkers makes no sense

Robert Duklus ironic, innit?

Than a stop light? 😂 That’s a ridiculous notion! NOTHING gets a bigger reaction than the stop lights!

@g1981c Are you still enjoying your s60? If you had it to do over, would you buy it again? Or, would you go back to BMW?

Not a single accident happens because someone thinks a car is braking, one side at a time. 😉

I also like amber for aesthetics reasons. But safety-wise, I can make a case for why red rear signals are potentially safer: in poor visibility, like fog, seeing a red blinking light in the distance gives a quick visual confirmation that you are definitely looking at the rear of a car and not at a car coming at you. I admit that this may not be a very compelling reason since most cars now have DRL so it should be fairly obvious to distinguish between a car going in opposite direction vs same direction. But if a car doesn’t have DRL, then for a driver to be able to distinguish quickly in poor visibility whether that blinking light is coming from the rear of a car or the front is a safety advantage in favor of red rear signal. That said, I still prefer rear amber signals because I think they look classier, especially for luxury segment.

That’s true of Europe, but in North America, the 40 series failed because it’s closer to the sub-compact category.

The V60 is better than a subcompact SUV.

You also likely don’t use turn signals yourself, do you?

@@afcgeo882 I actually do ues them and I'm glad my 2017 QX50 has them.

Victor Hugo Hell yeah I’d love to road trip in one

​@Victor Hugo The video is actually wrong. The 112 mph limiter was announced to start in May 2020, but US production of this car was shut down. The limited cars also come with a Care Key as standard which, if you shop around, you will find none of the 2020 models come with. So 155 mph for MY2020 S60s in the US, 112 for MY2021. Heico has announced that they are working on solutions to this limiter and to expect more form them about it in Fall 2020.

I just bought a red 2019 low miles and am really liking it. I definitely now realized it does not have a full gauge cluster, but hey, I’ll live. It’s an extremely nice design and build.

For fucksake it's a massage feature. You are rested in the body after you have driven.

My cart bag fits without folding the seats.

Not in other markets yellow is required by law in europe

I was looking at both as well and settled on the s60 because its cheaper, there is plenty of leg room in the back, handles better then the 90, and it doesn't use as much gas. The only thing different really is the trunk size thats it.

Thanks!

They “get” what the manufacturer gives.

I prefer dark interior, hides dirt and scratches better. And warmer in the winter ☀

@@James-il3tq I have a white interior on the 2018 BMW530e and to my eyes it definitely looks dated. Kid of like 60's Chryslers. However, for some reason it looks better on the Volvo.

Not if you lease...it will always be in warranty as long as the lease is less than 4 yrs. Volvo covers all maintenance the first 4 yrs!

Buy a Ford I can smell the fresh ink on the upcoming bills.

and I wish the turn signals were amber, too.

Volvo is indeed a very innovative car brand

Don’t forget the 8 speed automatic transmission. Granted it’s an Aisin, but it’s still one more component that could fail

Sounds like my 2018 BMW 530e and as usual with all my BMW nothing ever has gone wrong. At any rate it will be covered by 100% maintenance by Volvo. Three yr lease on all of them and no worried ever!

Jay Mac Anything “could” fail.

Hybrids are incredibly reliable.

Buy Ford, Mazda, SEAT, Peugeot, Citroen, Vw then. You can smell the fresh ink on the upcoming bills.

Darn it. We got that wrong.

Is this a European car joke?

@@ARentz07 No it isn't a European car joke. Abba was a early 80's band from Sweden. They were very popular for their 2 #1 hit songs Take a Chance on Me and i forgot the other one

@@tjk9263 Early 70's. They have more than 2 famous songs.

lol. You can get any Volvo for invoice at this time.

And you’d be completely wrong. Many cars have amber turn signals. No, amber isn’t more visible in the fog than red. Red reflects less in fog than amber. Amber turn signals were NEVER the standard in the US. Congrats on getting every single fact wrong.

Nothing wrong with that. Been leasing all my cars for quite some time. New car every 3 yrs, always in factory warranty, not paying for depreciation, able to negotiate a big chunk off MSRP and able to sell it at the end of lease and in in some cases for more $$$ than the amount owed at end of lease.

hughn1 You’re ONLY paying the depreciation. That’s the whole point of a lease! You also can’t sell a car at the end of a lease. It literally doesn’t belong to you!

Safety isn’t an opinion.

@@afcgeo882 Agreed. So where are there studies showing amber is safer? Certainly a lot of people think so, but it seems based on vague notions of what should be more visible. I suspect it's the action of the light flashing that attracts attention and color is a minor issue, but I won't claim that's a fact.

Is $80,000 in purple Canadian Monopoly money considered real $$?🤔🤔

If you do a lot of driving in town the T8 is the choice. I presently drive a BMW 530e and because of the battery driving the car in town I am presently getting 90mpg!!! Once you get on the open hwy in long trips the hybrid advantage, other than superior acceleration disappears. Reason I am getting a Tesla3.

hughn1 The price difference is far too big for any advantage.

@Shamur Stewart It's the principle, especially on a car that does 0-60 in 4.4. I wouldn't buy it new or used because of the limiter and I doubt it will be anyone's track day choice because of that too. It's a decision that alters its appeal to me.

@Shamur Stewart The principle is significant if Alex spent a paragraph mentioning this in his review. It's significant if other reviews or publications mention it as well but I guess we'll see as those roll out. I'm assuming you're trying to invalidate or minimize the point by using quotation marks around "car enthusiast," using the laughing emoji and of course 'bub'. Those reflect on you, not me.

@@delerium75 I suspect if you're shopping for a Volvo, speed governors arent high on your priority list. If you are very inclined, like any car, there will be ways around such a governor with a tune or ECU flash. Not a big deal at all in my opinion.

Some German vehicles are limited to 155 mpg. Is any speed limit acceptable to you? If so, why?

@@mart0225I think a top speed in the 120-130 range is completely appropriate for this car...h-speed rating tire range in other words.

It’s a luxury car, not a Volkswagen.

I was about to make this very comment. The G70 has been piling up serious praise and winning comparisons. It may not be one of the top sellers, but it's one of the most competitive cars in its class, especially considering its price. It should have been in the comparison instead of the Q50.

DO NOT BUY A VOLVO! I am the current owner of a 2019 S60 T6 Inscription and the vehicle has been a complete nightmare. It is plagued with quality issues and has been in the shop more than all my previous cars were combined, I am in my late 30’s. Worse of all, dealing with the Volvo dealership network and Volvo USA has been even a worse experience. Endless circle of taking the vehicle to the shop to have quality issues and defects documented then calling Volvo USA for resolution but receiving no courtesy or care. I bought a $60k piece of crap that I do not even trust to drive more than 30 miles from my house. Asked them to buy it back or forgive my loan, would not. Asked them to give me a replacement vehicle, would not. Even though I have a service record the thickness of a dictionary on a car with 33k miles on it. They do not care about their customers unless they are selling you the car, after that you are on your own! Volvo Cars Volvo Cars 4 hours ago Hello, we are sorry to hear about your experience. Please contact our global customer care team if you would like to discuss this further. You can email them at international@volvocars.com. Autoliebhaber 47 Autoliebhaber 47 4 hours ago @Volvo Cars you made the same comment on my original post 8 months ago. I am still facing the same issues with zero resolution. I am now spending more of my personal time to post my experience everywhere I can on social media. To inform others of the terrible experience they will face if they have issues with their Volvo purchase. Please have someone that can actually do something to help me reach out. I would love to provide them video evidence of all my quality issues. They can also review my open service ticket going back to 2019! At this point, this experience has been so frustrating that I will make it a point to inform any colleagues, friends, family to never buy a Volvo! Autoliebhaber 47 Autoliebhaber 47 4 hours ago @Volvo Cars here is the link to the video with my original comment from more than 8 months ago, I emailed you then with video proof and all you did was reroute me back to Volvo USA. Please put me in contact with someone that can actually help me, rather than just having me take my car into the dealership for service and nothing being fixed! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hTjLmHXoNNw.html

dont get the T8 then.

Victor Hugo That’s not how physics work.

Alan Bowers If you get a T6, you also get a lot less power, making it... 1,000lbs too heavy.

​ George L "That’s not how Engineering works", not physics. and like it or not, it is kinda, based on weight to some degree.... www.iihs.org/topics/vehicle-size-and-weight Strange how some ppl now confuse those related but different subject matters...

N C Engineering doesn’t work that way because physics don’t. A larger mass propelled at the same speed increases the severity of impact. Engineering actually tries to counteract this by spreading the impact absorption, but regardless of what happens to your vehicle, the mass of it doesn’t make it safer for you because of physics. SIZE, not weight, helps with safety. Weight makes it worse. A strong, lightweight, large vehicle with good impact absorption is what you want and in the 21st century we have strong, light weight alloys and composites that fare MUCH better than old steel when it comes to occupant safety. People (including you) confuse vehicle rigidity or amount of physical distortion in an impact with occupant safety, which is 100% incorrect. The safe vehicle is the one that disintegrates all around you, but leaves you unscathed, not the opposite.