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The 2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro Is Ancient and Insanely Popular 

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2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro review! The Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro is an old-school SUV -- but it's also a really popular one. Today I'm reviewing the 4Runner TRD Pro, and I'm going to show you all the quirks and features -- and then I'm going to drive the 2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro and review the driving experience.
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@davidkutschke54
@davidkutschke54 Год назад
The fact that this thing is missing so many features, uses an old engine, has had only minor cosmetic changes in the last 13 years, but still increases in cost year over year is INSANE. All the tooling and R&D is paid for now. This thing must PRINT money for Toyota.
@ritchierichh
@ritchierichh Год назад
And sadly because of regulations, they are pulling the plug with a ground-up refreshed model due... whenever the hell they decide to finally release it.
@southerninterloper4107
@southerninterloper4107 Год назад
It's really not that insane. People want a vehicle the government can't shut off on a whim. The older the technology the better.
@myMotoring
@myMotoring Год назад
Toyota is a proof that reliability > technology. I'm keeping my 22 years old Toyota because it has everything I need for a car. If I need more there's always high quality aftermarket parts & accessories in the market.
@antraxxslingshots
@antraxxslingshots Год назад
So many of the really old designs sell well these days, because a lot of people want and love something simple and reliable...yet no carcompany REALLY goes down on that and serves this market. Such a pitty. I assume they get regulated to hell by governments.
@gtalover139
@gtalover139 Год назад
And you still want one don't ya?
@MechAdv
@MechAdv Год назад
I was a mechanic from 2008 to 2017, and the 4 runner has basically been the same vehicle since 2005. The Toyota 4.0L V6 power train is one of the most prolific platforms of all time, being utilized in the older Tundra, FJ Cruiser, Tacoma 05-15, and 4Runner 05-Current. In all those years as an auto mechanic, I have seen precisely ONE of these engines out of the chassis. It had over 200k miles on it when the water pump failed and the owner overheated it so badly that the engine seized. We repaired the cooling system, put new plugs in it, and the owner drove it for another 20k before the head gaskets failed. I bought the truck for 1000$ off of the guy, and when I pulled the engine apart, there were no cracks in the heads or cylinders, no warpage of the block, no leak down on the bench. Got new gaskets and repolished the valves/seats, and I’ve been driving it for 4 years. Truck is about to turn 20 years old and it drives better than my GF’s 6 year old Kia with 100k on it. Anyone that doesn’t “get” the 4Runner popularity just simply doesn’t know. If I were to replace mine with anything, it would just be a new one.
@MasonH24
@MasonH24 Год назад
In all the years I've had a 4Runner.. I can't name a single "oh shit" moment I had mechanically. They're absolutely rock-solid. Even the old ones (if you skip the V6 from the 2nd gen, I've got one of those too..).
@bmurphy386
@bmurphy386 Год назад
Finally someone with sense lol love my toyota...
@MechAdv
@MechAdv Год назад
@@MasonH24 I have seen a lot of major repairs on them. Full rear end rebuilds, trans/torque converter failure, computer/ignition system failure, but the common thread is that those vehicles had 200-300k+ miles on them, and most of the time are abuse related. Granted, I live in a dry climate, so our cars don’t rust out like they do in the Midwest and the South, but my money is still on these trucks being the most reliable vehicles of the modern era.
@ACMxxxx2
@ACMxxxx2 Год назад
I like my taco bc it’s Manual everything. I’m at 230k with just maintenance stuff I’ve had to do like clutch, plugs, etc. Finna to do the fuel pump, it’s going strong, but I feel it going out in the next 20k or so. I don’t care about yuppie features. Just want dependability, functionally, and look cool. Checks all boxes
@rolfaalto
@rolfaalto Год назад
@@MasonH24 2nd Gen 1994 V6 still running strong at >200k. Toyota did replace the head gaskets as a recall around 80k, and it's been bomb proof ever since.
@theamericanhiker9655
@theamericanhiker9655 Год назад
The prices for these things are nuts but it just shows a LOT of people don’t want all the high tech crap that often is extremely to expensive to repair and replace. And the engine is extremely reliable.
@MarkSixFilms
@MarkSixFilms Год назад
The 4Runner truly is a special vehicle and there’s a reason they cost so much. They are simple and just refuse to die. Mine is coming up on 16 years old with 437k on the odometer and all I’ve ever needed to do was regular maintenance and a spark plug change. Not surprised Toyota keeps setting records with it.
@voiceofreason2674
@voiceofreason2674 10 месяцев назад
4runners are dogs I work at a Toyota dealership. Camrys last to 200k but not 4runners. It's an issue of parts your 4runner will blow a timing chain and it will cost heaps of money just cuz of how long it takes to fix them
@XxChuyoxX
@XxChuyoxX 6 месяцев назад
This is dumb comment. I have a Camry and 4 runners are infinitely more reliable than Camry's. The engines aren't nearly as reliable and many have oil burning issues
@blkwng81
@blkwng81 6 месяцев назад
@@voiceofreason2674 I have 214,000 miles on my 2005 4 runner v8. It still runs and passes inspection. Mobil 1 every 5000 miles
@kevinrod14
@kevinrod14 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful 🥲 how’s it holding up in 2024? I love a good Toyota story.
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 5 месяцев назад
Most things are reliable these days. You are paying 20k extra for reliability. Plus you are paying a lot for fuel. So in the long run, you are spending a ton more for less.
@arhamkhakwani5851
@arhamkhakwani5851 Год назад
Not many vehicles get reviewed twice by Doug. Goes to show how special the 4runner is.
@markoblagojevic56
@markoblagojevic56 Год назад
It isnt 😂😂. Classic toyota outdated crap
@Obospeedo
@Obospeedo Год назад
You mean what a scam it is today?
@johndoyle3232
@johndoyle3232 Год назад
@@markoblagojevic56 bro just say you can’t afford a 4runner, it’s okay
@daniel0atk
@daniel0atk Год назад
@@markoblagojevic56 Outdated? Yes, but it'll be way more reliable than most things on the market for sure.
@JF-ns5zs
@JF-ns5zs Год назад
"Special"
@orodriguez4444
@orodriguez4444 Год назад
This just shows how important, “I just want a damn reliable vehicle” still is to a lot of people
@JJ-wi2uw
@JJ-wi2uw Год назад
Any car no matter how "cool" will lose its luster after enough breakdowns and regular visits to the dealership/mechanic with the associated costs.
@alpe6228
@alpe6228 Год назад
Toyota knows exactly what they are doing.Poeple buy those things,I was shopping for one 3 years ago and there was a waiting list to get one.I just gave up but I shouldnt have cause they worth a lot of money today.
@Memesfromthestreets
@Memesfromthestreets Год назад
Nobody who can afford to buy a new 4Runner cares about reliability. The truth is all cars are reliable these days, they just need to be taken care of.
@matthewjensen9550
@matthewjensen9550 Год назад
During a time where almost nothing is reliable anymore
@350zlover2
@350zlover2 Год назад
@@Memesfromthestreets I disagree, I have worked in the auto business for over 20 years and unfortunately there are several vehicles that are terrible when it comes to reliability and durability. Proper maintenance and good driving habits help vehicles last but there are some brands that are just made poorly with cheap materials.
@RB-pp9cx
@RB-pp9cx Год назад
I’ve had my 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium for exactly 1 year and honestly all the “issues” you point out are the reasons why it’s so good. There’s so little that can actually stop working which makes it so good.
@kneepayne
@kneepayne Год назад
I just got a 2023 ORP Ice Cap White. I traded in a practically fully loaded CR-V and I realized how much I didn't use many of these features. I am quite happy!
@3rdgenbestgen21
@3rdgenbestgen21 Год назад
my thoughts exactly
@DariusJones05
@DariusJones05 Год назад
exactly. It's why they sell so well.
@oak8728
@oak8728 Год назад
So then make a price that resembles removing features, ah durrrr
@DariusJones05
@DariusJones05 Год назад
@@oak8728 supply and demand. They have no incentive to reduce price.
@Foxx488
@Foxx488 Год назад
My 2012 4Runner has 205k miles on it now, and I still drive it daily. It made me smile every time Doug pointed out one of the crappy features, because all of those features still work like the vehicle is new. The simplicity is the whole point, and I'm yet to see any individual part on mine fail. Hell, the back window still goes down despite a construction worker smashing into my rear hatch. Window still works 😅
@MasonH24
@MasonH24 Год назад
Most other "off-road" vehicles will break on the trail and require a tow out of there. IF you manage to break your 4Runner though, you can fix it right there and get your own self out. The simplicity of the 4Runner is what makes it so amazing. I pay a premium for that these days..
@toma.6942
@toma.6942 Год назад
Yea so does my 04 grand Cherokee. Everything still works also.
@toma.6942
@toma.6942 Год назад
I get the simplicity I'm all for it. $70,000 for basic stuff. Nah. Give me something. Now if it was $40,000 I would have one already
@Foxx488
@Foxx488 Год назад
@@toma.6942 cool dude. Those Jeeps were plagued with electrical problems, but by 2004 they’d worked out most of the bugs. Then they immediately redesigned it in 2005, and brought in new, better problems 💁🏼‍♂️
@voiceofreason2674
@voiceofreason2674 10 месяцев назад
205k miles hunker down for the 11k timing belt job or be prepared to sell.
@SuperfastMatt
@SuperfastMatt Год назад
I have a 2010; the first year of this generation. I love it, and it’s hard to explain why, but you did a pretty good job. It’s insanely capable, bulletproof reliable, and not trying too hard. This vehicle is a great example of how many car reviewers focus on the widgets and the numbers while missing the less quantifiable things so many actual car buyers love. I am impressed to see that you get it, and can explain it. You’re pretty good at this, Doug. Have you ever considered reviewing cars for a living?
@FOWBOWZ
@FOWBOWZ Год назад
I... I think he does this for a living ...
@liambassitt5919
@liambassitt5919 Год назад
@@FOWBOWZ hmmmm not really
@carterbliss484
@carterbliss484 Год назад
well would you look at that, my two favorite youtubers collide!
@JustinSeara
@JustinSeara Год назад
Funny, because I was watching your Death Valley video the other day wondering “hmm, that’s a really modern looking 4runner, but it also looks a little older”. I didn’t realize Toyota has been making this generation since 2010! 😅
@nagasako7
@nagasako7 Год назад
People who bought Toyota trucks made investments. Aston Martin super car loses 50 % value off lot.
@benjaminrobinson3842
@benjaminrobinson3842 Год назад
19:25 -- That "sad tailgate face" has got to be one of Doug's best all-time performances.
@OreoMiloOvaltineFrisianFlag
Same with our "pajero". It looks like it's crying blood.
@Vyker
@Vyker Год назад
No it wasn't. Don't encourage him.
@DannerBanks
@DannerBanks Год назад
I shed a tear, I was so sad for him
@jasperbumgart1891
@jasperbumgart1891 Год назад
Don't encourage him, he's an ass already.
@Luijbi
@Luijbi Год назад
Terrifying, tbh
@davidl9616
@davidl9616 Год назад
I think a lot of things are better integrated, utilized, and more reliable when they are analog. Not everything is better when made digital, and I feel like all manufacturers are having trouble finding the right balance. Some of those old school things haven't changed, because they didn't need to. A great example: Physical buttons for your AC, knobs for volume ect.
@_EightySix
@_EightySix Год назад
I just went from a 2014 Grand Cherokee SRT to a 2014 4runner. I HATED all the controls being on the touch screen, I love the big fat knobs on the 4runner, they won't fail.
@blackice7408
@blackice7408 Год назад
I agree. I'm not a fan of a screen for the speedometer, tachometer, and the gauges for oil temp n fuel. For the infotainment, fine as long as it's not over 11"
@jpthompson09
@jpthompson09 Год назад
I know I'm weird but dials over digital speedo/tach any day. Make the rest a screen but gimme my dials!
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. Год назад
Just bought a new 2023 4Runner, and after driving it 6k miles, it has no problems an 8-speed can't fix. Much smoother and quieter than you would think, based on the reviews it gets. Drove it cross-country. Car & Driver literally said out of 24 mid-sized SUVs, they ranked the 4Runner dead last! (They ranked the Wrangler 11th, so....). And I'm getting 18-19 MPG. A GREAT truck, for under $50k.
@jsprite123
@jsprite123 10 месяцев назад
Car and Driver ain't what it used to be. And don't get me started with Consumer Reports...
@abelincoln4374
@abelincoln4374 Год назад
Toyota really has done a hell of a job with their reputation. They are synonymous with reliability. Japanese cars in general kind of are, but they are the first name that pops in to most people's minds.
@TheV8Pumpkin
@TheV8Pumpkin Год назад
Newer hondas are kinda iffy now, mazdas arent the greatest past 100k and forget avout nissan lol
@brarautorepairs
@brarautorepairs Год назад
70 grand for this is crazy. Don't get me wrong, I really like the 4Runner but Toyota is just milking people now with their "reliability". It is the same thing with Blackberry who kept trying to sell their "security". Auto manufacturers in general have gotten better in terms of reliability over time since everyone has copied the "Toyota Manufacturing Process" and most parts are made by a few other companies. Only thing the automakers are doing now is final assembly. Take that 70k and buy a Jeep and add an extended warranty.
@ummwhodidnt
@ummwhodidnt Год назад
Another good thing is all these off-roaders by them are gonna be very cheap for us looking for new project cars in a couple years 🤩
@anandpushkar7510
@anandpushkar7510 Год назад
@@brarautorepairs let's be honest here as long as Americans keep buying this Toyota will take their cash,who says no to free money
@nicholasjanssen2175
@nicholasjanssen2175 Год назад
A 4runner never ends up in a landfill. It will be driven till every atom is no longer organized. That’s environmentally friendly to me. No waste
@arrowshot3000
@arrowshot3000 Год назад
I love my 4Runner. It doesn't get the best MPG by any means, the powertrain is ancient, it doesn't have all of the new tech available today, but it'll go almost anywhere and will run until the wheels fall off.
@NAT-turners-Revenge
@NAT-turners-Revenge Год назад
that's what it's all about 😀
@CNSRVTSM
@CNSRVTSM Год назад
The biggest question is... who asked nigga?
@aayangoverski3437
@aayangoverski3437 Год назад
It’s just an old ancient suv that will constantly remind u of its age
@SachsJonah
@SachsJonah Год назад
Like the bZ4x 💀
@SachsJonah
@SachsJonah Год назад
No hate though. The 4Runner is great.
@hawgbreath
@hawgbreath Год назад
I’ve owned 2 4Runners, 2002 Sport Ed. and 2015 SR5. My son is still driving the 02 and, unfortunately, the 15 was totaled. My 2 favorite cars I’ve ever owned (and I’ve had a lot of them). The Toyota engines in these are almost bulletproof and one of their best features is the old school engine, transmission, and build quality (there still made ONLY in Japan). I now have a ‘21 Tacoma and the thing I miss the most from the 4Runner is the engine and transmission.
@troyrambo6804
@troyrambo6804 Год назад
I have that exact model and color, and I love it. It's simple, and it can go anywhere. And it does have remote start, you just have to know how to use the key fob. The tranny is throttled on purpose, using only 60 is percent. The pedal commander is a plug in throttle bypass that makes the engine way more responsive, highly recommend.
@hent1438
@hent1438 Год назад
Toyota for the most part understands their customer base for these vehicles, which is why they don't change too many things. They've learned how to leave "well enough" alone.
@miguelvega7769
@miguelvega7769 Год назад
Umm I’ma tell you right now most if not ALL have said they need to do better especially with back up camera
@bigduphusaj162
@bigduphusaj162 Год назад
@@miguelvega7769 what? We don't care about reverse cameras🤣 bunch of pointless nonsense. We buy these to tow boats reliably not use it in reverse while watching a screen. I don't know anyone in the UK who uses reverse camera full stop.
@igorR061
@igorR061 Год назад
Exactly, Toyota´s customers in general wants something simple that don´t break, they are not looking for 4k backup camera or latest gadgets, those are things that gonna be outdated in few years,but they buy the car to last decades
@KS-zt4nd
@KS-zt4nd Год назад
@@igorR061 How are safety features going to be outdated in a few years? Imagine if they said that about airbags lol.
@miguelvega7769
@miguelvega7769 Год назад
@@bigduphusaj162 that’s y’all but here in the US most want they money worth. Again I’m sure my old one well out last these new cheaply made ones
@RightYouAreKen01
@RightYouAreKen01 Год назад
I feel like I lucked out buying my 2020 TRD Off Road Premium for $4k under sticker in May 2020 right before prices exploded. I could probably get more than I paid for it.
@alabama2uz
@alabama2uz Год назад
Everything the critics hate is everything that make them great.
@bagheerab278
@bagheerab278 Год назад
@@alabama2uz Yeah, the upper crust of "professional" critics frequently end up in the minority. Auto experts, movie reviewers, wine snobs... you name it!
@n1ggawithaclappedaltima8402
Most definitely
@jyoung188
@jyoung188 Год назад
I also bought a 2020 Tacoma in may of 20. Prices are crazy now!
@ignaids3769
@ignaids3769 Год назад
you absolutely could, and if you decide to sell it you will
@peanutbutter6862
@peanutbutter6862 Год назад
I just bought about a week ago the 2023 4Runner TRD pro with the Solar Octane color and I just love it. Drives like my 2015 Tacoma that I traded in. I can see why folks love the 4Runner and now I do.
@skoolynugenator1802
@skoolynugenator1802 Год назад
I think they drive way better and have way more room.
@mohammeds5458
@mohammeds5458 Год назад
@@skoolynugenator1802 way better than what?
@MultiSneakerLover
@MultiSneakerLover Год назад
@@mohammeds5458 ur mom
@utahmedicineman7654
@utahmedicineman7654 Год назад
I have an '18 SR5 and I love it so much. It looks so beefy and masculine. I especially love that it is so minimalistic. I use it off road ALOT and and less is more in the wilds! I love that it works every crank and is more reliable than any other off road SUV!
@FOWBOWZ
@FOWBOWZ Год назад
I don't mind working on these when they come into the shop for a service. Easy to work on, harder for some trd models cuz you gotta deal with all the skidplates for oil changes, but it's not an issue. Love that truck
@Constabruity
@Constabruity Год назад
🅱️oug 🅱️emuro. The bots are hilarious sometimes.
@zMischeivous
@zMischeivous Год назад
Probably some of the cleanest (aside from mud) and most well maintained cars that come thru the shop. Every 4Runner I see in the wild is so clean
@TheBonsaiZone
@TheBonsaiZone Год назад
No changes over the years, means less year specific spare parts to manufacture and store.
@lindenr7582
@lindenr7582 Год назад
I grew up with a ‘98 4Runner as the family car. Several cars have occupied the other spot in the garage but I think my parents plan to keep maintaining and driving the 4Runner for as long as they can drive. I have no doubt that that truck will make it well beyond 500k miles. Needless to say, it has had a big impact on what I like in a vehicle.
@Rhaspun
@Rhaspun Год назад
I still have my ''97 4Runner with the V-6. It has over 420k miles on and running well.
@aarons4205
@aarons4205 Год назад
This made me go hug my Xterra. 4.0 V6, 5 speed auto, bare bones features, paid $24k brand new in 2012. Zero issues with reliability. I totally get why people love these kinds of vehicles, it's completely not special on the spec sheet, but there's just something special about them. You can pry my Xterra from my cold, dead hands.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Год назад
ive heard nissan trucks are solid but in my experience their cars are TRASH
@aarons4205
@aarons4205 Год назад
@@bradhaines3142 I totally agree most Nissans are trash, but every manufacturer will have some exceptions. I think Nissan really shot themselves in the foot when they started putting CVTs in everything.
@Maidenrules29
@Maidenrules29 Год назад
@@bradhaines3142 I have a 2000 Nissan Frontier I bought new. 220K miles and the only things I have had to fix aside from regular maintenance are replacing the alternator and the water pump.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Год назад
@@Maidenrules29 alternator and water pump in 220k is pretty solid
@onfootbassin
@onfootbassin Год назад
This thing is ancient, and I love newer tech in vehicles, but I wish all vehicles still had a mechanical shifter.
@davidfence6939
@davidfence6939 Год назад
I don't need all the tech. That leads to more issues and more computerization. Leading to a less reliable vehicle.
@tarui
@tarui Год назад
And mechanical handbrake please. I just love the feel of it
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 Год назад
Buy a manual transmission, boom, solved. :)
@onfootbassin
@onfootbassin Год назад
@@richardnavratil9661 well manuals have drawbacks too. Some people like cars that are in the middle and not super technical OR super primitive.
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 Год назад
@@onfootbassin Of course they do. I was trying to be more facetious than serious. :)
@rotorwind177
@rotorwind177 Год назад
I own this exact SUV. Agree it could use a few more gears. Exhaust gets old quick on long road trips. One correction is it does have remote start. Just doesn’t have a dedicated button on the remote for it. Definitely not for everyone! It’s bulletproof, will take you almost anywhere and looks awesome Nice review 👍
@bryanzawlocki
@bryanzawlocki Год назад
Three clicks on the lock button and hold. 😉
@paulelledge8977
@paulelledge8977 Год назад
Can you start it with your cell phone so it's cool/warm when you get in? Also, if you run into the store is there a way to let the climate system run while you are away for a few minutes? Thanks.
@rotorwind177
@rotorwind177 Год назад
@@paulelledge8977 yes you can use the app to start it. It will only run for 10 mins. App is free at first but then you have to pay for the app. Not sure how long it’s free cause I’ve had mine less then a year
@VoicelessArtitsts
@VoicelessArtitsts Год назад
I have the 21' pro- ended up swapping the exhaust for a stock exhaust. Definitely the right decision.
@jasonsimmons671
@jasonsimmons671 Год назад
I like it!👍🏿 Seen 2017s in the mid 40s
@donjose6520
@donjose6520 Год назад
I bought a 2021 TRD Off Road for the exact reasons you mentioned. It is old school, engine transmission and everything is tried and true, highly dependable, build for long term trouble free and no major problems. This is the car that Scotty Kilmer spoke so highly of and everything he said about the 4 runner is true. Toyota could sell this car unchanged for another 13 years and people will buy it.
@tschwiesow
@tschwiesow Год назад
My 2016 TRD pro is bulletproof. 93k miles and going strong. See y'all at 300k
@Hayden.STI.8
@Hayden.STI.8 Год назад
We’ve got over 100k on our ‘16 TRD and it has only had an oil gasket seal break. Minor problem and otherwise great car
@mmmhhhwaffles4785
@mmmhhhwaffles4785 Год назад
This has to be one of the best reviews Doug has done.... He literally just roast the vehicle for 25min then laughably explains that consumers are somehow in love with the 4runner. Putting my money on it they will do a new design for 2024 Toyota just redesigned the Sequoia and the Tundra (least popular), up next will be the Tacoma and the 4runner (their more popular models).
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 Год назад
Those things he's complaining about, that's why people are buying it. It's simple and rugged.
@bash8387
@bash8387 Год назад
@@bwofficial1776 thank you someone made sense
@jaimelinwu
@jaimelinwu Год назад
and he said he would buy it in a heartbeat if the TRD Pro had a 3rd row
@majhestiq12
@majhestiq12 Год назад
Redesigned, but internals will be the same, specially the engines. Uses the same V6 GR and V8 UR engines from 12-15 years ago.
@Perich29
@Perich29 Год назад
I hope the 4runner won't be made in Mexico like the Tacoma is being bade in mexico.
@everjvc
@everjvc Год назад
4Runner does offer ventilated seats in the Limited! Also remote start is on the pro and Limited- hit the lock button 3 times hold on the 3rd (or in app)
@JoeBoyHHI
@JoeBoyHHI Год назад
He was saying air cooled seats are not an option on the TRD Pro trim.
@griffins5655
@griffins5655 Год назад
@@JoeBoyHHI actually he says “The 4Runner doesn’t offer it” in regard to ventilated seats, he makes no mention of particular trims…
@ccarp1515
@ccarp1515 Год назад
Several things he attributed to 4Runners in general are actually specific to the non-Limited models.
@r6TrdSlow
@r6TrdSlow Год назад
I think Doug hit the nail right on the head. Part of why I love my 2016 (first vehicle I ever bought brand new) was because it’s a familiar feel to what I was used to. Some of these newer vehicles are great and have cool gizmos, but I like not having to look at the temperature dial to change it, or the fan speed dial and such. I like just knowing where the buttons and knobs are without having to use a touch screen to change settings. Much like touch screen phones, you have to be pretty deliberate in your input with most modern vehicles, and bumpy roads can be infuriating with that. When you’ve got large buttons and knobs, bring on the bumps. You can still keep your eyes on the road and find what you need
@troyhodulik5542
@troyhodulik5542 Год назад
Exactly. Buts it not about familiarity. It’s about function and simplicity. My nephew has a nice newer Silverado. The radio went out on it: the touchscreen type with all of the controls. Went to go to work and the truck wouldn’t start. Are you kidding me??? A broken radio rendered his truck inoperable. 2 weeks and $1200 later his truck would start again. But consumers gotta have a 42” wide screen in the vehicle to control everything. Just like a dial or push button for 4 wheel drive. What a joke. Go lock the hubs and pull the transfer case lever. If something does go bad it can be fixed relatively inexpensively. This new tech stuff is a joke.
@lequsejones5384
@lequsejones5384 Год назад
OK, this incarnation of the 4runner sucks! I have a 2003 V8 4runner and a 2014 (only available in the V6. 1 Fuel tank cannot be locked in the 2014 (and in this reviewed TRD pro as well! 2 Rear windscreen cannot open with the key fob (available on the 2003 3 No single motion start on the 2014 (available on the 2003) 4 Smaller cup holders (on a larger car 5 There are mirrors on the internal aspect of the rear pillar that alows you to see round a corner when reversing...available on the 03 but not on the 14 6 the position of the light switch for the trunk on the 2014 is just silly but in the 03, perfect! Ultimately, the car is well built, handles and drives well and is spacious and comfortable, however, the attention to design detail is lacking. It is as if they designed it from scratch and didn't pay attention to the subtle details that make the 03 model a masterpiece. Frankly, I would trade the 2014 for another 03, but my wife would have my skin!
@chrisreynolds35
@chrisreynolds35 Год назад
You must not learn fast
@dustinford18
@dustinford18 Год назад
That’s a great point. Never thought of it that way.
@Rhaspun
@Rhaspun Год назад
@@troyhodulik5542 Touchscreens aren't going to last. Even Elon Musk had questioned why a car owner would keep a Tesla out to several years old. He knows the touchscreen won't last.
@KidJaeProductions
@KidJaeProductions Год назад
The thing that makes the 4Runner popular is it stays true to its roots. A body-on-frame, mid-sized truck-based SUV with 4x4, and it’s customization diversity. Something that other competitors don’t offer (well besides of course the Jeep Wrangler and Ford Bronco). Meanwhile the Explorer, Pathfinder, Passport, and Blazer all went soccer moms on us
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 5 месяцев назад
Body on frame trucks are not good though. They rust and rot. Body movement is bad. Accident ratings are poor. They fold up in accidents. They ride rough and are bouncy. They also have a lot more sway and brake dive. People love them for 4 wheeling cause they flex. You can add a body lift if needed. Most importantly, they are overhyped. A unibody structure is best for daily driving. Way more rigid and won’t rot and rust. Accident safely is hugely improved. Handling is sharper as there’s no more body flex. It’s all one piece. They also hold up in accidents very well. If you do not use them for daily 4 wheeling, they are not worth it. If only used for a daily driver, they are extremely overpriced. Fuel economy makes it even a worse buy.
@KidJaeProductions
@KidJaeProductions 5 месяцев назад
@@ryanb8736 I know that. Still you obviously know most people prefer the 4Runner over a… crossover
@lucasszymanski114
@lucasszymanski114 Год назад
My FJ is as basic as it gets and I love it! Being 6’4” the headroom is much better than the 4Runner. Both are just awesome cars!
@hsavov
@hsavov Год назад
I really want to get a brand new J76 or J78. They have the same engine as the 4runner (at 230HP, but you can boost it to 270hp), but with a 5 speed manual, which I think is much better
@alittlehusky5
@alittlehusky5 Год назад
My FJ62 doesn't even have working AC, has wind up windows and bench seats
@DTD110865
@DTD110865 Год назад
Oh really? I'm shorter than you but too tall for a lot of today's vehicles, and I was worried that it might be too small. Thanks for proving otherwise.
@2shobu
@2shobu Год назад
Awesome and reliable! Wife drives a 2014 FJ and loves the simplicity…even compared to my 2020 4Runner!
@ryandriscoll16
@ryandriscoll16 Год назад
Lol agreed to the tee! Lovee 4runners but despite their actual dimensions, I love my fj because it’s even more dumbed down and simple (also feels roomier) than a 4runner.
@ChemicalRun
@ChemicalRun Год назад
I have a 4th gen, this being the 5th. Over a quarter of a million miles. Starts like a gem, no matter what. People are obsessed with this car. Doug coming in HOT with the commentary tho 😂
@ThePackBoyz
@ThePackBoyz Год назад
got a 08 Sport myself and with 350,000 miles it still runs n drives like a charm
@larrybenson902
@larrybenson902 Год назад
2002 4Runner 270,000 still runs great
@Cj-xl3jv
@Cj-xl3jv Год назад
Gotta love the snore runners. Boring ass drivetrain and interior but they’re tanks. My 3rd Gen has almost 400k miles with not a single issue.
@TheDayisMineTrebeck
@TheDayisMineTrebeck Год назад
04' Limited owner. 240k miles. Never has left me stranded.
@lukebyers9676
@lukebyers9676 Год назад
I have a 2004 SR5. It is currently at 430k. Original motor, original transmission. Drives like the day I bought it! I'll never get rid of it.
@israelvaladez4739
@israelvaladez4739 Год назад
Thanks for the review Doug! The simplicity is why we love the 4runner
@ups-pn3ph
@ups-pn3ph Год назад
Funny thing about the price… if it’s bullet proof and I know that things going to be running strong for 2 decades.. then it’s really not that bad.
@PureHavok777
@PureHavok777 Год назад
I just picked up a new one yesterday. I paid MSRP. I think there is a lot of hype over dealers placing extreme premiums on these, which is not the norm.
@Rhaspun
@Rhaspun Год назад
It will ultimately save you money.
@futeditzs2482
@futeditzs2482 Год назад
It's nice to see Toyota produce a car that is iconic to them. In the past, these cars were industructible, while many brands produce luxury "off-road" cars, such as the Defender, Toyota is one of the brands that continues to know how to make cars like these, pure and tough.
@JF-ns5zs
@JF-ns5zs Год назад
At over $50k+ it's priced as a luxury off roader too
@breakingames7772
@breakingames7772 Год назад
Toyota helix is better than anything on the road
@qx4df
@qx4df Год назад
@@breakingames7772 not sold in north amarica,
@SavoyPrimeable
@SavoyPrimeable Год назад
The Defender may not be as reliable, but beats the 4runner in almost every other category.
@k2crasher
@k2crasher Год назад
Definitely hold their value well, gx470 is my pick
@MattBlack6
@MattBlack6 Год назад
Not just the states. Even though it's officially still on sale, Toyota has cancelled all orders for the 79 Series LandCruiser in Australia. Australia is one of the world's biggest LandCruiser markets. People are paying $120,000 2nd hand for a 79 that you could have new for $85,000. That's with 60,000km probably towing a 3 ton trailer and 2 years old.
@josiahbates8962
@josiahbates8962 Год назад
that my friend is a 4runner, not a landcruiser
@ollyolyoxenfree
@ollyolyoxenfree Год назад
@@josiahbates8962 if you watched the video he talks about the 70 series
@isaac4273
@isaac4273 Год назад
Holy shit! what about other models like the J300, Hilux, or the Prado?
@josiahbates8962
@josiahbates8962 Год назад
@@isaac4273 j300 hilux and prado are still being manufactured, i think toyota just wants to be done with the 70 series just because of how old the platform is
@MattBlack6
@MattBlack6 Год назад
@@isaac4273 the 300 series Wagon is barely available. Prado and Hilux are a big wait. As is the hybrid Rav4 (which is the shit hybrid with 1.6kWh "self charging" hybrid, not the plug-in).
@smallbiz9852
@smallbiz9852 Год назад
All your negatives are EXACTLY why people want this vehicle. No computers, no electronics, none of those expensive and hard to diagnose things to repair/replace.
@KatDaddyKat
@KatDaddyKat Год назад
I love this vehicle. I think it’s one of the best looking SUV’s. Especially in person. There is something nice about a car without all the gizmo’s and gadgets. I rather have a simpler vehicle (less things to break) and a have the vehicle be able last a long time… which this vehicle does. I’ll pay an extra few bucks so it’s not constantly in the shop and the engine runs for 250k plus miles reliably.
@350zlover2
@350zlover2 Год назад
I agree 100%!!!!
@jonathanp3616
@jonathanp3616 Год назад
Agree, I love mine in spite of the limitations
@briannawelch5297
@briannawelch5297 Год назад
Agreed! I like the simple cars I don’t like all the fancy technology I always buy older cars so I can have a key start not a button start!
@jotterson1156
@jotterson1156 Год назад
The nose is kinda lame with that fake bull bar look
@350zlover2
@350zlover2 Год назад
@@jotterson1156 Looks great to me but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
@benjaminrobinson3842
@benjaminrobinson3842 Год назад
In addition to the points Doug mentioned, I'd also point out that the off-road market in general seems resistant to change. Consider how long the original Ford Bronco, Jeep Grand Wagoneer, and Jeep CJ were around without substantial updates.
@fj06carnone
@fj06carnone Год назад
It's mainly bc the demographic that buys them are immune to object information and easily influenced by trends into buying outdated trash so they can personify fictional characters while cruising mall parking lots lol
@jamesreuss9704
@jamesreuss9704 Год назад
but this isn't when those cars originally came out. and to not have these features for that price? ridiculous.
@jeffb.6642
@jeffb.6642 Год назад
@@jamesreuss9704 Yeah if they aren't going to add any additional features or redesign it, it should definitely not be as expensive as it is. Unfortunately, people have proven that they're willing to pay such big dollars so the price will stay as high as it is.
@noahkoch9153
@noahkoch9153 Год назад
Bless the CJ's heart. My first car, 1984 Renegade model. Not all cars have to have fancy computers, cruise control...... fuel injection ahhahha
@kilroywashere9343
@kilroywashere9343 Год назад
By it’s nature you kinda want to make sure new technology works before you cram it into an off-roader
@OriginalRMG
@OriginalRMG Год назад
I drove one in WA in the mountains, was fantastic! The back window is literally amazing, as simple as it is, it makes such a big difference.
@randy438
@randy438 Год назад
I ordered a 2022 manual Tacoma for the simple fact that there is basically no gadgets and gizmo's in the thing and I know it's going to outlive me. I loved it's simplicity
@PWCDN
@PWCDN Год назад
I'd still take a Tacoma over this, the interior looks a lot cleaner. This one is so limited in usability. The fact with a Tacoma you have a bed, you can customize that storage portion to however you want and is way more flexible. I believe the backseats on a Tacoma are tighter though, that's my only complaint if hauling people is important. Also Tacoma does not look as dated as this on the inside. To pay the same price for this atrocious interior is crazy. For work or play, the stuff you can do with a Tacoma is insane.
@ghensold
@ghensold Год назад
Absolutely excellent point at 24:57 about car reviewers' mentality. Reviewers tend to be pretty interested in car technology and performance, which is understandable if you're really interested in car design. But there is a big disconnect with what the average consumer values. For most people, a car is a tool and the main concerns are reliability and functionality.
@shrayesraman5192
@shrayesraman5192 Год назад
That's why the kia telluride is often at the top of those suv lists
@juddjonathan
@juddjonathan Год назад
Toyota was cool when their reliability outpaced the rest of the industry, but they have stalled and others have passed them up big time.
@za4117
@za4117 Год назад
@@juddjonathan Lol. Everyone has been stating this since around 2008 and it all turns out to be a farce. In 2011, Hyundai and Kia were claimed to have reached Toyota-level reliability because they improved from what was absolute garbage to what seemed like high quality. As the saying goes, "The Emperor Has no Clothes" now that people can see beyond the "attractive" designs and see that the cars are just built cheap, with Engines that blow, catch on fire, and you have to pay a premium to get one with an immobilizer, something that Toyota and Honda made standard on EVERY car no matter how darn cheap it was back circa 2001.
@jackc4806
@jackc4806 Год назад
That may be, but it's not logical to pay $75k for this SUV, regardless of reliability
@robob221
@robob221 Год назад
@@jackc4806 yet, people do. The argument as to why is endless if you simply ignore the fact that people truly admire what these cars are, a tool that doesn’t break, will not stop in poor weather and looks cool doing so. Everything else falls to the wayside because that’s what most people do in cars, they drive it to places and plan on getting there every time. Take a step back and realize what a car is, then you will understand the mentality behind Toyota and the people who buy it.
@PKMNtrainer22
@PKMNtrainer22 Год назад
As a 4runner owner, I just wanted to add that it does have some of the features that Doug says are missing. For example, cooled seats and parking sensors are options on the limited, also most models have remote start if you press the lock twice and hold it down a third time on the key fob, and it doesn't have a power tail gate but the rear windshield can be operated with the key fob by holding lock/unlock buttons. Also the v6 engine did technically come out in the early 2000s but it was overhauled in 2010 with dual VVT that adds about 40 hp.
@0V3CHKiN
@0V3CHKiN Год назад
Yeah, I was about to comment about the cooled seats when he said that. Doug should have said "on this trim level" rather than stating "on 4Runners"
@frederickschmidt8723
@frederickschmidt8723 Год назад
you have 4 runner....lucky duck!
@simonbarz9354
@simonbarz9354 Год назад
Yes, a lot of these criticisms were not totally researched.
@xploration1437
@xploration1437 Год назад
The seats aren’t cooled, they’re ventilated.
@jonlosito2004
@jonlosito2004 Год назад
​@@xploration1437they're the same thing
@zerohours.
@zerohours. Год назад
My bros dad had one in the 1990s and he drove that thing for like 20 years with hardly a problem.
@trevnti
@trevnti Год назад
As much as I love technology and do to and extent desire them in my car, one of the reasons I love the 4runner and the lexus GX is simple feature don't break as much as complex features. The cars just work, and when they break you're not paying 1000s to replace something stupid. I compare it to say the BMW x5. Great engines and features, but the drive and electronics break all the darn time
@777komikazy
@777komikazy Год назад
I’m honestly not surprised it’s still extremely popular despite its age. It looks good, ride quality is fantastic, the tech you do get is purpose built and not gimmicky with some modern features sprinkled in and the powertrain came out before electricity so it’s time tested. It’s one of the last true old school SUVs without all the aids and electronic nanny’s. It will be timeless for years to come!
@TonyCox1351
@TonyCox1351 Год назад
It’s a great family SUV that looks like you go off-roading. And I don’t mean that pejoratively. Everybody shits on mall crawlers, but I’d rather be caught dead than in an actual minivan. 4Runner is a way for you to cart your kids to soccer practice and look cool doing it
@luiselapostolfeliz2421
@luiselapostolfeliz2421 Год назад
@@TonyCox1351 Even though the Toyota 4Runner isn't the most up to date vehicle I think it's a cool SUV if you're looking for a rugged truck this is it. With that being said, if you're looking for a modern yet luxurious interior then, you may want to look somewhere else as the 4runner is not the most modern SIV ever so don't expect it to be perfect. Plz reply.
@mattX5
@mattX5 Год назад
“Timeless” is a sad excuse for incredibly unrefined and outdated.
@adamfrbs9259
@adamfrbs9259 Год назад
It's a good buy. Can't stockpile electricity very easily...but you can stockpile gasoline (non ethanol) if anything goes wrong, an all electric society would grind to a halt and no one goes more than, what maybe 300 miles one way.
@TonyCox1351
@TonyCox1351 Год назад
@@mattX5 Toyota makes 6 of the top 25 sold cars in America, 4 in the top 10. It might be outdated but people seem to love it, there's no incentive for them to change anything. If aint broke, dont fix it, as they say
@zMischeivous
@zMischeivous Год назад
My first car was a 98 4Runner, still the best car I owned after my current 17 Camry. I love the current Gens and took one on a trip across country with my family. One of the best cars ever built period. I hope Toyota doesn’t change it too much on the redesign.
@Alex-rl4uy
@Alex-rl4uy Год назад
I have a 98 SR5 I daily drive. Love it
@RoyalDetailing661
@RoyalDetailing661 Год назад
@@Alex-rl4uy I also daily drive a ‘98 SR5 that just hit the 300,000 mile club this year. That’s why when it was time to get my wife a vehicle he chose to get a ‘21 4Runner Off-Road Premium. I get more compliments on my 98 than I have received on all other vechiles I’ve owned combined
@PWCDN
@PWCDN Год назад
Looking at the Sequoia, it doesn't look good for the 4runner unless its on a whole different platform which I doubt.
@Alex-rl4uy
@Alex-rl4uy Год назад
@@RoyalDetailing661 I only have 196,500 on mine
@somethingsonic
@somethingsonic Год назад
@@RoyalDetailing661 I daily an '01 SR5, absolutely love it only about 209,000 on her too! I get compliments all the time about it, and it makes my day every time.
@JasonExplainsThings
@JasonExplainsThings Год назад
TRD Off Road is the trim to get. I paid $40,500 in early 2021. After upgrading several components I'd say my 4Runner is now cooler and more capable than the Pro. 🥰
@mrt2121
@mrt2121 Год назад
That's a great deal. I got the 22 Off-Road for basically $10K more. Love the heck out of it though.
@Seashed
@Seashed Год назад
Didn’t want a sunroof or leather. Same goodies as the Pro for substantially less.
@patricialawrence8340
@patricialawrence8340 Год назад
Best 4runner review ever! I have this exact model (color and all!) I agree with every word this guy says. He had me giggling in so many spots. When I hit the gas pedal and the exhaust is super loud and rumbly....and I'm going nowhere fast🤣 The backup camera...it is so bad I took it back to Toyota thinking something was wrong. They agreed, replaced it and then figured out out nope its just a crappy camera. The tailgate is soooo heavy and I'm short. All that being said I love my 4runner and suspect I'll never get rid of it!
@bustermcthundernut
@bustermcthundernut Год назад
That it is Doug.
@virtue050
@virtue050 Год назад
What a name you got there
@subienorris
@subienorris Год назад
I went hiking last weekend and had to park my Subaru about a mile from the trailhead because the road got too rocky. From that point on, half of the cars that I saw were 4Runners, all with some sort of customization, and every single one of them looked good. People don't buy 4Runners for touchscreens and safety features - they buy them because they enjoy having their own unique adventure vehicle.
@ViolentMLG
@ViolentMLG Год назад
Its a fair point, but there is no way the vast majority of 4Runner buyers buy them because of this. Most NEW 4Runner owners are moms, just like the F150 is the most sold vehicle in the US, its not tough rugged men buying them. They were just told its reliable, the tech is primitive so they don't actually have to 'catch up' with it, they're old enough with enough driving EXP that they can actually manage a larger vehicle, its gigantic so it can haul children and whatever else they want on the occasion, and it makes them feel safer due to its size and visibility than your average Corolla or Camry. Its not a coincidence that its basically the first large SUV Toyota sales besides the Highlander. Its at the right place, right time. Its basically the perfect mom SUV.
@jalenad11
@jalenad11 Год назад
I know a girl that bought one last year. Then moved to Miami. She doesn't hike and has never been off-road. Some people buy them just so they aren't in a "basic" Jeep.
@remyd8767
@remyd8767 Год назад
how is it unique if everyone buys them. I see a ton of them on he road
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 Год назад
@@remyd8767 Read it again. Once you customize it it becomes unique.
@subienorris
@subienorris Год назад
@Roberto Vidal Garcia yeah but there's a huge market for 4Runner groups and a ton of customization options. Just saying that's still a big part of their sales
@launch_rivian
@launch_rivian Год назад
I loved my original 2015 Inferno 4Runner TRD PRO but finally had to let it go at 97K miles. Still got $34K back for it. :)
@PureHavok777
@PureHavok777 Год назад
I picked up a new 2023 4Runner TRD PRO yesterday at MSRP. I traded in my 2018 standard SR5 with 76,000 miles on it and get almost what I paid for it new. It's crazy, but I ain't complainin'!
@HyperbolicMind
@HyperbolicMind Год назад
What'd you do with that money Brian
@launch_rivian
@launch_rivian Год назад
@@HyperbolicMind Picked up my Rivian R1S the very same day!
@Mr99Burns
@Mr99Burns Год назад
When I bought mine I just saw it in the lot and liked the look. After test driving it I realized that’s it’s comfortable and nimble fur a large suv. XReas suspension is very good. Love the ride height, squares, visibility and the huge trunk. This vehicle is a bargain if you want large boxy, tall truck based suv that’s super reliable.
@SavardRn
@SavardRn Год назад
I had a 2006 4runner and got it up to 200k miles and finally upgraded to a 5th gen! Gonna keep this thing forever
@david05111
@david05111 Год назад
For the record, it does have remote start. It’s not great, but it has it through the key. You can also start it with the app.
@saganworshipper6062
@saganworshipper6062 Год назад
This is probably the reason why my best friend continues to lease new ones of these. He's on his 5th one in the last 12 years or so and he LOVES that nothing changes lol.
@livefire81
@livefire81 Год назад
I think making only subtle changes to the body of the 4runner has appeal to used buyers and helped inflate this market. You can find a cherry 2011 and it looks like a 2017 from the curb. Also at 2-300k miles, the 4runners missing features ie: non-powergate rear and manual shifting linkage etc.. become features instead of failure points.
@nothinghere7391
@nothinghere7391 Год назад
It's ancient and that's why people are buying it. It's simple, it's fun and it's easy to tinker with. No new car in its class can rival it
@Moneyoverfunnnie
@Moneyoverfunnnie Год назад
Wrangler still the same
@BallSoHardWill1994
@BallSoHardWill1994 Год назад
Jeep Cherokee XJ 🤔
@andyham6094
@andyham6094 Год назад
@@Moneyoverfunnnie wrangler is way more modernized than the 4Runner, especially the infotainment and drivetrain. They have a plug in hybrid 4xe, 392 v8 Hemi, and so many different drivetrains and engine choices, updated infotainment, optional led lights and drl’s, off road camera views, and a lot more modern features. Even though the wrangler looks largely the same, it’s definitly been updated way more than the 4runner but I love my 4runner and how simple it is. Wouldn’t trade it for anything.
@Moneyoverfunnnie
@Moneyoverfunnnie Год назад
@@andyham6094 I feel you 100%
@nothinghere7391
@nothinghere7391 Год назад
@@Moneyoverfunnnie it's a chrysler product. It will fall apart
@needtoknow204
@needtoknow204 Год назад
Doug you make me like my 4runner way more every time you review it!!
@stephan5026
@stephan5026 Год назад
Good review..you get it! I initially did not get it lol. I bought my wife a limited this year. Didn’t get to test drive one, and had to wait 6 months for it to arrive from Japan. My wife instantly loved the thing.. My first impression when we took delivery was anti climatic. I paid how much..for this. But after a few drives around town I quickly understood why so many ppl love these things. You did a good job of explaining that.. hopefully Toyota can keep this feeling with the new one. I have a 2022 tundra limited, but kept my 2017 sr5 tundra as well. I just like the old school simplicity.
@aph9155
@aph9155 Год назад
12 years old. my dad daily drives a 2008 4runner and its been as durable and reliable as can be. I learned to drive on it and helped with the driving in the road trips we took. has tons of space for everything plus room for our dog
@rickybobby6386
@rickybobby6386 Год назад
We have a 2018. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned. I can also fix/repair everything on it in my garage. Can’t say that for most modern vehicles. Super reliable and just great to drive.
@993mike
@993mike Год назад
These things are built like a Rolex Submariner, and like that watch the design changes are minimal, the internals are bombproof, and the value retained is incredible. Please Toyota, don’t overcomplicate the new generation and saddle us with a four cylinder turbo that will never have the same longevity on a heavy truck like this.
@morgansmith7009
@morgansmith7009 Год назад
Would you pay $80k for the same truck today though?
@nickgarcia4988
@nickgarcia4988 Год назад
Rugged, highly customizable and insane reliability are the reason it could sell for another 10 years without changes
@Starfurexxed
@Starfurexxed Год назад
Exactly, and they're pretty easy to work on!
@ozarkliving7263
@ozarkliving7263 Год назад
Exactly
@DescartesRenegade
@DescartesRenegade Год назад
for 15-20k over sticker, why not get the R1S? by all metrics is the better SUV by a mile...
@nickgarcia4988
@nickgarcia4988 Год назад
@@DescartesRenegade unless you ordered an R1S a year or so ago you aren’t getting one anytime soon. The only thing it has in common with the 4runner is the rigged aspect at best. Nowhere near as customizable and reliability has yet to be seen since its a 1st gen of a brand new company
@andrewcox5873
@andrewcox5873 Год назад
@@DescartesRenegade not all metrics, arguably not even the most desirable: proven reliability in the Toyota
@Ulghart
@Ulghart Год назад
A year ago I bought a used 2014 4WD T4R SR5. I spent about $2k extra to change shocks, coils, and upper control arms. That added about 2 extra inches of lift. I took it offroad on some medium-level trails in Virginia. The truck went through it flawlessly. Not one single issue. I still don't understand why ppl would spend that much money on the TRD PRO. It won't do anything that an SR5 won't. And you can get these with low miles for less than half of the value of a brand new.
@PureHavok777
@PureHavok777 Год назад
Have you been in a PRO? I just traded in my SR5 on a PRO. Big difference in handling and overall quality. To each their own...
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 5 месяцев назад
I would never buy one of these used if it was off-roading. Seen so many of them beat up after being 5 years old.
@Ulghart
@Ulghart 5 месяцев назад
@@PureHavok777 The difference that you mention is the suspension. Upgrade the suspension on a SR5 and there's no difference. The only one that has a tad better handling on road is the Off Road version, cause the SPSS (very similar to the GX460.)
@Ulghart
@Ulghart 5 месяцев назад
@@ryanb8736 me neither lol. But there's plenty of used 4runner in the market and easy to spot the good ones.
@twitchykun
@twitchykun Год назад
My family has a 2012 Toyota 4Runner Limited (Mom's never gonna go off-road) and the fact that they still haven't refreshed the model after this long is astounding.
@lightningjohnson7065
@lightningjohnson7065 Год назад
As a Firefighter, IMO this is one of the safest vehicles I've ever come across. I've worked several wrecks that the 4runner fared MUCH better than the opposing vehicle. The worst of which was a 55mph offset head-on; Toyota had 5 passengers, including infant in rear-facing seat and all of them walked away without a scratch. The other driver got a helicopter ride.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 Год назад
what was the other car??
@user-ji3il6ce2o
@user-ji3il6ce2o Год назад
Do luxury vehicles from brands like BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Lexus etc. fare better in crashes compared to a non-luxury brand vehicle like a Toyota?
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 Год назад
Body on frame, sits up high. Checks out.
@lightningjohnson7065
@lightningjohnson7065 Год назад
@@fidelcatsro6948 2000's Chevy Blazer. Toyota A-pillar had 100% integrity, which is a key indicator of how f'd up someone might be. If the A-pillar is jacked up, 99/100 so are they. I live in the country and don't see a lot of lux cars, so can't compare. Whoever asked how many fatalities I see; really dude? The deadliest stretch of I-57 runs through the middle of my district. Too many...
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 Год назад
@@lightningjohnson7065 yesterday someone in a civic died he ran into a turning bus...front bonnet was flat..front seats were already folded up like a suitcase.. 😭
@merlinparviz1474
@merlinparviz1474 Год назад
Finally this is what I've been waiting for, the 2022 4runner review by non other than Doug himself!
@IronMuppet
@IronMuppet Год назад
Just bought a 2023 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium because........... it will never let me down. 5 years of payments plus another 20+ of enjoyment.
@pantloaded
@pantloaded Год назад
Thanks for boosting the resale value even more bro! 😃
@dillblas9139
@dillblas9139 Год назад
Ig it's a "if it isn't broke don't fix it" type of situation.
@maximilianoluera6679
@maximilianoluera6679 Год назад
one quirk i’m surprised doug hasn’t mentioned is how loud that 4.0L is on start up. things sound like a whole ass jet
@elonsus9747
@elonsus9747 Год назад
All the 4.0’s do. I love it. 😂
@lazynow1
@lazynow1 Год назад
Does that scary you.....run to your mommy....
@shizbisquit
@shizbisquit Год назад
@@lazynow1 homie are you ok?
@johny1i
@johny1i Год назад
Replace that dinky foam air injection pump filter with a reputable slip-on air filter and the whistle is even more pronounced. Sounds kinda cool.
@butchh4runner
@butchh4runner Год назад
Yep
@kevinp4305
@kevinp4305 Год назад
Great review! Cannot wait for the redesign and interior upgrades.
@alexkarns8715
@alexkarns8715 Год назад
The biggest quirk you forgot to mentions is that Toyota still puts the old two button digital clock in these modern vehicles. I remember that same clock in my 87 carolla hatchback. Kinda nostalgic but also cheap.
@variabl3
@variabl3 Год назад
Funniest part is that clock is extremely precise too lol... Keeps time as well as my Luminox.
@alexkarns8715
@alexkarns8715 Год назад
Lucky you. My clock runs fast.
@michaelpalm2210
@michaelpalm2210 Год назад
easy to change when daylight savings time comes
@luxuryhub1323
@luxuryhub1323 Год назад
Here’s why they still sell. Bomb proof engine, trans, driveline. Unstoppable reliability. When you are 250 miles out in the middle of no where Toyota 4Runners and Landcrusiers are great peace of mind!
@zLigHt44
@zLigHt44 Год назад
And MPG is about the same off-road for just about everything.
@HawkDawgfan
@HawkDawgfan Год назад
I got so lucky getting my 2020 TRD Off Road Premium below sticker before the prices went bananas. I actually prefer the ORP because you can easily modify it to be much better than a TRD Pro for less than the Pro is off the lot. I also love my 4Runner and wouldn’t trade it for anything.
@michaeldbhawker3556
@michaeldbhawker3556 Год назад
That is why the ORP is the best 4Runner in this current generation. KDSS does make a huge difference and modifying it your way for less money than the TRD Pro is so awesome haha.
@eskimojoe311
@eskimojoe311 11 месяцев назад
I bought a 2010 Jeep Commander limited in 2010. It has a 2" OME lift with 265/70's now. I recently started looking for a replacement after some jerk side swiped it. I was looking at a 4runner but can't justify any of it. 13 years newer than my commander and it has the same/ arguably less capability off-road less options and the v6 gets less mpg than a 5.7 hemi on the highway. Thank you for the video Doug I appreciate that your delivery doesn't have any bloat and they are worth paying attention to from start to finish.
@Pilot_air_on
@Pilot_air_on Год назад
Simple solution for the price problems are to buy a lower trim. They’re basically the same and the cost makes a lot more sense for what you’re getting. He also missed the coolest part about of the back seat which is that they recline! Maybe this is common in other cars but it blew my mind
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Год назад
rear seats in my highlander recline
@Altarofpigs
@Altarofpigs Год назад
Toyota loves doing this. My 2008 Avalon has reclining back seats. Not a ton, but for a sedan it’s enough that if I ever have people sitting back there, I try to put them all the way up first JUST so I can say “pull that lever on your side” and watch their faces as the seats slide back lol.
@MasonH24
@MasonH24 Год назад
There are some features that are only available on the TRD-Pro, but most can be found on the Offroad Premium trim level. That said.. most people will NEVER need those features (on either), and they'd be best served just getting the base model. But those special colors...!!!! Absolute best feature on any 4Runner though? Rolling down the rear window.
@Pilot_air_on
@Pilot_air_on Год назад
@@MasonH24 I can’t think of a feature that is available on the pro but not on the off road other than the lift kit. But most people ditch the stock suspension anyway so it’s moot. I agree those colors are awesome tho!
@Kaash718
@Kaash718 Год назад
That’s what I did Sr5 with 4x4, when I save up some $ then will mod it.
@jeffupton2008
@jeffupton2008 Год назад
That Toyota 4.0L six banger is BULLETPROOF. Same engine in my 2019 4Runner and my 2010 Tacoma. F the haters.
@lukebyers9676
@lukebyers9676 Год назад
My 04 SR5 runner has 430k on the original Engine and transmission. Yeah it's gutless but it will never die.
@QarthCEO
@QarthCEO Год назад
I don't get why Toyota didn't offer the TRD Pro with the 4.6 V8 and 6 speed like the Lexus GX. It's an amazing drive train and will last the apocalypse.
@SodiumWage
@SodiumWage Год назад
Honestly if I have to overpay for a vehicle these days (and they're all overpriced) I'd rather spend my money on this thing. This truck just works. It's like the Voyager I and II spacecraft that were launched in the 1970's but are still going strong.
@ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440
It's an SUV, why am I specifying this because the 4 runner is still somehow smaller then a Tacoma....
@350zlover2
@350zlover2 Год назад
Plus 4runners hold their value extremely well!
@ejamsc
@ejamsc Год назад
The 4runner sells because people are prepping.
@japerezo75
@japerezo75 Год назад
The 1GR-FE engine is surprisingly smooth and quiet at high RPMs. I got one as a rental in Wyoming an it was awesome.
@conanscanlan
@conanscanlan Год назад
I love my 2016 TRDPro 4R. You are correct. Less is more. It's one of the reasons we love them. Purpose built and crazy capable, along with reliability. Fuel economy is poor but it's a japanese lunchbox. Small price to pay for a body on frame SUV.
@nacho-man1063
@nacho-man1063 Год назад
I’m on my second 4Runner. The limited has work well for me. Never breakdown, no recall list, 400k miles and motor runs better than a new bronco. Nobody buy this car for tech. Is built for those who doesn’t have time to be at a mechanic shop & for those who enjoy off road with out worrying is going to break down.
@spacefleming5390
@spacefleming5390 Год назад
And when something does break it's easy to fix. Love these trucks!
@slavikpetrakov7822
@slavikpetrakov7822 Год назад
Lol @ runs better than a new bronco. Sorry, I test drove this ancient dinosaur and it in no way runs better than the bronco. This thing was so slow I could barely merge onto the highway. 0-60 seemed like it was 10 seconds. It was also insanely loud for being so slow and having a weaker engine than a bronco. The interior was so cheap I couldn’t help but chuckle knowing Toyota must have like a 10,000% markup on these.
@sergeychmelev5270
@sergeychmelev5270 Год назад
@@slavikpetrakov7822 you are taking the words out of context. He said "_motor_ runs better than a new bronco". That claim is easy to verify: over the past 20 years 1GR-FE had less recalls than 2.3 and 2.7 EcoBoosts in the past 5 years.
@jonathanp3616
@jonathanp3616 Год назад
I’ve loved both of mine and the first one did great in a wreck on the interstate.
@Adam-hq7ob
@Adam-hq7ob Год назад
@@slavikpetrakov7822 I had a 19 pro and loved the interior. The fake leather was super durable and easy to clean. I also miss not having to go into the display to change the temperature etc.
@edwink1467
@edwink1467 Год назад
As much as I wish it had more tech, this is probably one of the best vehicles for camping or going off the grid into the wilderness. Jeep, G-wagon, Land Rover, etc. may be cooler, but nothing beats this ancient 4Runner in reliability. The last thing you want is for your vehicle to break down in the middle of nowhere. And this is quite "affordable" compared to those. BUT for the average buyers who only take these SUVs to their local Whole Foods, there are certainly better vehicles lol
@AA-mk4pu
@AA-mk4pu Год назад
New tech sucks for the most part, I don’t need a car to tell me to keep my eyes on the road, fight me in steering, brake when it thinks I should, slam brakes in when I’m backing up my trailer because it thinks I’m going to hit something or shut off every damn time I stop my car.
@ayebing
@ayebing Год назад
When this is running smooth 20 years from now…and that’s long after most current 70k EVs battery life has expired and the most up to date tech will be long outdated …I think that’s the point .
@patg3331
@patg3331 Год назад
@@AA-mk4pu new tech doesn't just mean more nannies. That 5 speed trans has to go it's laughable
@xahbal
@xahbal Год назад
Well. I used to have a 2012 Jetta. All I do with it is grocery runs. But after I bought my 22 trd sports. I go places…. And live in Colorado. There are many places to go.
@johnwebb2232
@johnwebb2232 Год назад
@@ayebing nicely said.
@GuillermoGonzalez-zelglez
@GuillermoGonzalez-zelglez Год назад
Thanks for the video, I own a 2019 Toyota 4RUNNER Trd off road premium it is my second 4 runner and i have never had any problems.
@rturner09251
@rturner09251 Год назад
I bought the 23 TRD Off Road and I love it so far. Has everything I need, and provides me with all of the storage space I could ask for. Hopefully it’s the last new car I buy.
@thestig007
@thestig007 Год назад
One other great thing about the hatch is that they hide the wiper in the back spoiler. Such a clean look.
@QueensGTO_Viper
@QueensGTO_Viper Год назад
"ancient" isn't an insult. It's a HUGE PLUS in this ESG world
@southernfarmtech
@southernfarmtech Год назад
I think it's time more auto makers start listening and understand not everyone wants a tiny little turbo charged engine in a throw away piece of junk, car truck or SUV. I've loved 4Runners for years and years, and finally had the good fortune to be able to purchase a 2022 in January. I bought it specifically because it hasn't changed, and is just solid reliable tough transportation. It is vault quiet, built like a Sherman tank, rides great, and requires very little maintenance fuss. One of the last few soliders left that is true to its roots. When you drive it, it feels like you are driving something substantial.
@Thefury06484
@Thefury06484 Год назад
I have a 2017 trd pro that I bought new with 12 miles on it. It now has over 140k and other than routine maintenance and 2 door lock actuators I’ve had no issues. The 4runner is a perfect vehicle.
@smartman123
@smartman123 Год назад
20 years and still same design that show you the level of quality 👌🏻
@Mc.Nuggetz
@Mc.Nuggetz Год назад
Or the level of stupidity that people will pay more for an ancient design.
@maanmallak8953
@maanmallak8953 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SdZIiBLtWf4.html
@johnwebb2232
@johnwebb2232 Год назад
@@Mc.Nuggetz you could'nt get a better design vehicle, but if you knew what you were talking about, you would have seen that.
@pinut187
@pinut187 Год назад
Design has nothing to do with quality. Are you new in the car world?
@dave216dx
@dave216dx Год назад
@@Mc.Nuggetz you can imagine the talk around the boardroom table at Toyota... "Were still somehow selling off all those 40 year old transmissions to these dumb fucks" What a pile of shit.... Be like driving a cardboard box, probably less exciting 😂
@rayward3835
@rayward3835 Год назад
Thanks Doug for the best review of the 4Runner. I'm an owner of a 2007 4Runner SR5 4.7L V8 2WD 125K miles. The most low tech vehicle and looks and runs like new. Why can't other builders learn the "Kaizan Theory" from Toyota!
@rayward3835
@rayward3835 Год назад
Many thanks Doug.
@hellodpain
@hellodpain Год назад
I have a 4runner. Thought about selling it for something newer with more gimmicks. But Doug has made me love my 4runner again and confirms why I bought it in the first place. Thank you
@poodymeiner3125
@poodymeiner3125 Год назад
Essentially traded mine for a 21 taco. Needed the bed, but I miss my 4runner everyday. Immediate power, zero reliability issues and nothing will ever beat the back window. You made a great choice
@robmalcolm8042
@robmalcolm8042 Год назад
I got a hyundai palisade made in Korea and it has more hp than this so quicker and of course being a present day hyundai a lot of features that this is missing. But the 4 runner has legendary reliability and being body on frame it is a steal. Regardless if you pay more it’ll last forever made in Japan.
@KidJaeProductions
@KidJaeProductions Год назад
@@poodymeiner3125honestly man the 4Runner is still a Taco with extra doors and seats 🔥 so your Taco is pretty much as awesome
@MotoBeemer
@MotoBeemer Год назад
Have a ‘15 pro. Love it, still drive it daily and play out in the mountains here in CO. Simple, reliable, just works.
@Jey_Ace
@Jey_Ace Год назад
That’s the reason why 4Runners stay popular even after more than a decade on the market. Simplicity and reliable. No high tech sensors needed for good ol off roading
@GS_Lexus
@GS_Lexus Год назад
Love my '22 ORP with KDSS! It really gets the roll under control and handles exceptionally for how big it is.
@johnwebb2232
@johnwebb2232 Год назад
i agree to that, love my 2016 trail with KDSS and enjoy decking it out for overlanding, would'nt want enything else.
@adamsmidkiff1
@adamsmidkiff1 Год назад
The popularity of these older vehicle designs says a lot about how the market thinks of a lot of the newer options out there.
@KaptainNic
@KaptainNic Год назад
The reason it’s so simple is so it doesn’t break. Less technologies leads to less problems generally. We’ve had one for three years had no problems with it and Is very livable.
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