fun Warhammer fact, this is the version of bolter the sisters of battle uses. the space marine version is TOO big and powerful for a normal human to use. your arms will legit get ripped off if you use the space marine version
I read somewhere that bolters have little to no recoil because it's firing a rocket propelled round. I also read somewhere that it has a ton of recoil because it's machine spirit is furious. Idk which is true
@@schmittywhamjenson Bolts use a two-stage propellant system. They still have a conventional powder charge just like the cartridges we use today but after the Bolt leaves the muzzle the second stage rocket ignites, so yeah they have recoil. It works like an RPG-7 rocket except RPGs have no recoil because they have a breach for the pressure.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the standard Bolt Weapon made for Humans is .75 Caliber, while the SPACE MARINE version is .998 Godwyn pattern bolt shells.
human variants are around .50 caliber, while space marine and mounted/emplaced variants range anywhere from .60cal all the way up to over 1". Even larger bolters exist on things like Rus tank patterns and titans, which are absurdly large. On 40k's tanks, the Godwyn pattern heavy bolters are just secondary crewed support weapons lol. The vulcan mega bolter's caliber isn't explicitly described anywhere to my knowledge, but they ARE described as larger than the standard heavy bolter and: "capable of blasting a meter-wide crater in stone and steel." So.. they're large..
The current Godwyn pattern Bolters use by the Space Marines are .75 caliber while Heavy Bolters are .998 caliber. The only Bolters that humans can use are Godwyn-Da'ez, Mars Pattern II Scourge, Mark XII Jove, Angelus, Perinetus, Enforcer, Goliath, Orlock, Umbra, Vratine and Nemesis patterns and the one use in Dark Tide is the Locke pattern Bolters.
@@UpToSpeedOnJaguar Then you have the mega bolters the Imperial Navy has for point defence. The explosive charge was replaced with a nuclear warhead and they get fired by what amounts to an upsized minigun.
Nah generally bolters are .75 caliber but like everything in 40k we have plenty of variation's which is why you'll have bolters fire .998 like in the Space Marine video game. Sidenote: Bolters don't have a ton of recoil since they are not like regular bullets that just use powder. Instead Bolters have an initial charge thats only made to shoot the bolt out of the barrel and then it activates its gyro-jet. The reason why Space Marines and Humans can't use the same bolder is because a Space Marine is so big that they have their own which is to heavy for a regular human. An Astartes Bolter is 40Ibs while a human one is 15Ibs.
This is one of the reasons why i love 40k weapons. Not just your typical assault rifle but a big and ABSOLUTELY brutal weapon that destroys the target to pieces
Whenever I'm about to play a level where I know I'm in for a wild ride... *_it's time to lock and load a Boltgun..._* *_《RIP AND TEAR... UNTIL IT IS DONE!》_* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zZMg9ryeWOw.htmlsi=cMA3U7M4c0C2m92y
I love this rendition of the boltgun. It just feels so nice and weighty. You can feel the power as you shoot. The only bad thing about it is that it eventually runs out of ammo, but still makes you not want to use any other gun in the game.
It's important to realize this is a .75 Caliber Boltgun, the sidearm of the Adeptus Astartes and the primary of the Sisters of Battle wearing Power armor. It is just barely manageable by use in game so think what a .998 Boltgun would do to us. That's what the Space Marines use.
Lore Facts: this is a smaller version of what space marines use with a smaller 20mm round compared to the standard bolters 25mm and 30mm rounds. This weapon system is essentially a Light armoured Vehicle main gun shrunk into a small arms firearm. The closest real world comparison would be a 30mm air burst cannon. It is also what the more punchy sound is when done correctly with sound design.
That is some serious heresy right there! But I am kinda disappointed that the bolter in space marine 2 doesn't sound nearly as beefy as this tiny boltgun.
XD to be fair, it's a normal Human using a Bolt Pistol against (mostly) Humans. It's supersized and beefy sounding because it's coming from the perspective of a normal dude lugging this monster of a gun around. But in Space Marine 2, it really is just a pistol to them. And you ain't fighting regular Humans anymore either (the ones you do encounter die just as easily against this gun). You're fighting Tyranids and Chaos. It's kinda like how Astartes portrayed Space Marines. In the beginning the simple 5 man squad look overpowered slaughtering masses of Heretic Humans and even against the two Psykers. Yet in the final trailer, you saw the reality: they're not so overpowered when they're fighting what they were actually designed for; Namely the Tyranid and Orks that were in said trailer.
Because of different perspectives. In this game, you are just average dude so bolt pistol look like an 20mm auto cannon while Space Marine a walking holding this just like holding a 1911 pistol to them.
Having anything feel meaty is super important. Even the lasguns that have little to no recoil in Darktide still have a beefy feel to them with the sounds they make when fired.
@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 The rule of cool is always the most important thing about 40k, and nothing says cool like firing a clunky hunk of metal with a .75 rocket propelled round.
@@oluftheexplorer9476 I for one am personally a fan of the Helbore lasgun because of its aesthetics. Everytime I fire that thing in Darktide, just hearing it makes me feel like my insides will get flash-cooked and explode if I get hit center mast by it.
I really love all the lore behind 40K and how much lore/knowledge about just this gun you can see in the comments mechanically and story wise, but I also really love “BIG GUN GO BIG BOOM!!!”
i've seen enough. where do i start wh40k lore from? from what i've seen this is some godly crossover of dune, halo and doom. EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT SENTENCE IS EXCITING, AND I WANT MORE!
Oh boy where to start. If you actually want to experience the stories of warhammer then look into the Black Library which is the official label for warhammer novels. If you just want the straight lore, well, there's dozen of loremasters here on RU-vid, but there's some big events you'll want to look for that'll give most of the context you'll need for most things. "The war in heaven", "the birth of slannesh", "the dark age of technology", "the great crusade" and "the horus heresey" if you only care about human history then you really only need context for those last two to understand the imperium.
Another option is RU-vid videos such as Bricky’s Warhammer faction videos, which is a great starting point and the one I used. Leutin is good for more in depth lore, and the adeptus ridiculous podcast is a great option if you want to know the general gist of Warhammer stuff without having to dive too deep.
I recommend Baldermort. He has such a fantastic narration voice, and frequently builds stories within the lore and then breaks down the lore from the source material at the conclusion of said story.
For a quick rundown, interstellar Human civilization collapsed due to an AI revolt and the echoes of a million year old war that caused reality to rip itself apart and allow Demonic beings from another dimension to enter our own world much more easily. After a few thousand years of darkness an immortal psychic being from the dawn of human civilization attempts to reunite humanity, but at the cusp of victory some of his sons/generals and a good portion of his new government is corrupted by these otherworldly beings that start a war which puts him into a coma, starts a millennia long period of decline for his empire, and sends it into a state of theocratic brutality in response to his sheer mangificence and the unending threat to your soul from otherworldly horrors.
Best representation of a bolter (even though it's a human sized bolter). The one used by the astartes in space marine 2 seems like a peashooter in comparison.
@@jooot_6850 Belt fed? Bolters usually have a magazine. Are you thinking of the newer heavy bolter models? Oddly enough the old heavy bolter was also magazine fed and it wasn't even a big magazine.
They really did the bolter justice in this game. The ONLY thing I didn’t like about the Dawn of War series was the sound the bolters made. It’s not a machine gun, it’s a hyper reactive rocket launcher.
Iv heard many people have problems with the different iterations of the sounds bolters thru the years but the fact is its a ridiculous fictional gun that doesn't even have any real-world counterpart to compare to so you probably don't know what it would really sound like. Nobody would. I think what they did here is fine because it sounds similar to artillery and if you fired artillery very quickly it would sound similar to a very loud machine gun. Not sure if you can ever really get the full gravity of what it would sound like shooting one considering the real thing would likely blow your ear drums out without protection. Some integrations of the bolter I'd say they do make fire too fast, but this one is alright. Some games they make it fire so fast that is just makes it feel like any other machine gun and you can't really feel the punch you should.
I feel like Darktide is the best representation of 40k weaponry in a game. The lasrifles feel good and the bolt gun feels exactly like it should. huge gun with huge stopping power.
A bolter is a fusion between an autocannon and a recoilless rifle/rocket launcher. Over the top and completely impractical for most uses, it's the perfect gun for a setting like 40k
I love how even this human sized variant is still absolutely devastating to chaos worshipers and turns them into paste, just goes to show how trivial these missions would be if to say a 3 man squad like in Space Marine 2
@@Brandelwyn They don't use the same ammo. Astartes grade bolt rounds are of a much higher quality with superior propellants and more potent explosive payloads.
@@danielh.tamura8405 Those "sources" are wrong. Bolters have never fired .998 caliber rounds. They fire .75 caliber rounds. That 998 number is referring to the model number of a particular Bolter pattern, not the caliber. _“998. model bolter: Godwyn pattern with ammo counter, sinister/dexter locking mechanism and sickle magazine containing 30 rounds of _*_.75 calibre bolts_*_ with diamantine tips, depleted deuterium core & mass reactive detonators. Fires in 4 round bursts.”_ *- Codex: Space Marines (4th Edition), pg. 11*
This might just be my opinion cuz i still dunno a whole lot about Ogryn lores but they don't really understand the concept of ammo conservation and even their Heavy Stubbers(the big ol MG) are modified to fire slower or in burst so the Ogryns won't run out of ammo too quickly Giving them bolters will probably result in them mag dumping all their ammunition within seconds The heavy bolters might be abit too heavy and complicated for them to use Plus if you're a military commander or leader Would you trust a toddler with a fcking Boltgun? 😂
@@SororitasSimp I mean the games not really super duper lore accurate, I'm pretty sure ogryns can barely put sentences together if I'm not mistaken, like they're stupid stupid. But I get what you're coming from.
@@logan9163 Well in Darktide, the ogryn you play as has this thing called a "Bonehead Implant". Basically ups his intelligence from a toddler to barely pre-pubescent teen.
Back in Space Hulk 2, the gun was described as shooting pellets / bolts so small, that they can fit so many into a clip that the gun practically never needs to be reloaded during a mission. And this was - of course the - the terminator armour bros version. I wonder if this was the lore then, or just a way to explain away the technical limitations of the time.
From what I understand, Bolters built for non-augmented Humans like these are scaled down to .50 Cal. The .75 Cal Bolters used by Space Marines are way to heavy and powerful to use without them being mounted on a tripod or vehicle.
I see a lot of people mentioning that this is the civilian version of a bolt gun. Query however, could an ogyrn use a bolt gun, the normal variant and what would be stopping them from using it if they can?
So you are telling me that such "high tech" gun doesn't leave the bolt back after firing the last round? But it does autoload when shooting every other round?
I'm no WH40k expert but I'm not sure the Bolter is supposed to be particularly "high tech". It strikes me as more of a ritualistic, cultural choice of weapon, kind of like how some police jurisdictions were still using 1911's until relatively recently.
