The 40k Galaxy Is Doomed - So Why Doesn’t Everyone Just Leave? | Warhammer 40k Lore 

From what I understand, the Silent King of the Necrons left, but then came back. Supposedly the C'tan known as the Outsider (the only C'tan who is not a shard, it should be mentioned) also left the galaxy, and is actually floating somewhere out there in the void between galaxies. Whatever galaxy the Tyranids came from, he's in their way, and whatever he's doing, the Tyranids are making a very, VERY wide berth around him.

Am I the only one that noticed Little Timmy is missing we genuinely need an explanation.

The Carcharodons would like a word.

@@angusshelford4316 i think he finally fed him to the nids

Ayo did the silent king dip out, see the nids on the way and come back

That would be (IMO) Bad And not Bad as a Good Thing But Bad as a Very Bad Decision they could do It would mean that The Tyrannids are LITERALLY the Winners As stopping an Entire Universe of Tyranids would be LITERALLY impossible

@@aleanddragonITA The Milky Way would have to be a fucking Super Fortress to withstand this for a while a full fleet of tyranids I don't know if the emperor would even know how to stop it I don't even know if the old ones could do it (skeptical about the old ones because they probably could destroy them)

@@aleanddragonITA yeah,they would write themselves into a corner with that,there’s probably an unimaginable number of nids out there and they pose a massive threat but they can’t be all there is

Orks are there too "Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."

Maybe not literally last as in the entire universe, because that's a huge stretch that honestly kinda destroys the suspension of disbelief, but rather maybe last in our supercluster.

And then he manned all over those xenos.

@@casketbase7750 when he said its manning time it was truly one of the holy momen of all time

the cinema: 😮

When the Emperor went all man against Horus that was such a grim dark moment

This is exactly what 40k is lol

They make a good base level enemy for everyone.

just send orks at them, boom no more nid invasion, yeah you won't get the planets back but you won't be a nids scooby snack either and the orks will love it

Nids are the Worf of 40k.

@@jimbothegymbro7086 Octarius war. Not exactly the best idea lmao.

They're the Goons of 40k.

Oh oh It make sense

Check this out "Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."

Here's another idea. What if it is Orks, but they are detected by the probes as they are in a fight or getting ready to fight. Orks thrive on conflict, so the orks must be fighting something in the other galaxies to keep them alive for the probes to detect.

The probe was only a scan within the galaxy.

That doesn't seem likely. Orks use conventional communication methods based on electromagnetic radiation. It might be surprising to some that orks bothered to develop long-range communications technology at all - but they actually consider it a vital priority, since you need to have long-range radio in order to shout insults at anyone listening and challenge them to a fight. Tyranids, meanwhile, communicate psychically. It would make sense that tyranids weren't detected by an automated probe, since you need astropaths to be able to perceive tyranid fleets at a distance. When traveling in dark space, the hive ships are in hibernation, and although they would be slightly warmer than the void around them, they wouldn't have nearly as strong an emissions signature as ork ships and settlements. Ork settlements are mostly powered by biofuels and nuclear reactors, and put out a lot of waste heat and other emissions even if the orks aren't actively broadcasting at the moment.

"50 BUCKS SAYS THE ORKS WILL TAKE THIS PLANET"

Wouldn’t surprise me if there were a few DAOT civilisations that quit the galaxy when old night fell

"Should we help them out?" "Hell fucking no."

Idk about terraforming, but squats have a complete STC

@@snewsh Even if I mustered the mercy and empathy of literal saints, I could not fathom letting any of that shit near me. Stay over there you fucking maniacs

Ummm sweety, Slaanesh's preferred pronouns are they/them.

Does the web way even get that far?

@@ao1778 and the craft worlders want the pronouns to be was and were

​@@ao1778 fr you trying to do that🤣

@@louisnall3102 No lmao only the local galaxy.

Perhaps that is why the nids are sent to the galaxy as well, not because they're going on purpose but rather that the galaxy serves as the universes prison world and thats why everything is so crazy

Yea its called the orks "Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."

That's us. We're watching/reading it all happen in an alternate universe that we can manipulate.

There was a few until imperium landed and genocided them lmao

@@k.dalexander3803 You think if there was a race who watched the shit going on in WH40K they'd be within 1000 light years of that shit? abso-fucking lutely not

*Cough. Cough.* the Witness. *cough. Cough.*

This is an amazing end game for tyranids! ive never heard this but its like a reset if someone in chaos figures out how to end the great game. Great theory is it self made or is their somewhere else i could learn more about this.

@@masonball4744 It's actually at least a few years old, I've heard it (in various forms) several times over the years. It's not a bad theory, but I honestly really doubt we'll ever know - the tyranids really should be left as an unknowable cosmic horror.

Halo Flood is Chaos Rings are the Tyranids

I much prefer the 'cold unfeeling epitome of natural selection' explanation. Just an animal from another galaxy which evolved so far it consumed its entire home world, then evolved to hop between stars, then evolved to hop between galaxies. A plague of locusts which travels from one galaxy to the next in an infinite universe. Theories like yours are interesting, but not as interesting. Trying to tie the Tyranids into the existing plot inside the galaxy when they come from outside and outnumber its residents so monumentally feels small-minded. Two of the major factions already have shared origin stories in being created by the Old Ones, it's boring to shoe-horn another into that same box when the universe is so infinitely large.

So Reapers of Mass Effect franchise?

Thats...... actually not a bad idea.

@@majorkill plus ynnari psykers, yvraine especially would likely be able to ressurect people if nesecary, although i dont think it wouldn't be worth even if yvraine wanted to do this plan For starters,wether the inperium likes it or not,the eldar has played mvp regarding saving there asses from getting basically ganged up on fron pretty much everything,hell eldrad,while just as arrogant but still regarded AS THE WISEST ELDAR FARSEER basically said "Ok look i fucking hate thoses guys as much as the next aeldari,but like it or not,if we want any hope of getting saved from eternal rape,humanity isnt going anytime soon. And if they drop,so do we" Not exactly but still same reason, without the inperium,the eldar would be a ally short of kicking chaos ass,and its shown that when more factions work together,chaos and tyranids get the absolute shit kicked out of them Granted the tau or leagues of votann could definitely be a substitute ally,but zealotry aside,theres a few reasons why the inperium, especially now with gman clutch saving them why there still kicking

@UZZIAH ABNER please stop with this stupid copy pasta

That'd be a great ending if Ynnead then captured and imprisoned Slaneesh.

@@majorkill The eldar Path novels actually stump this one. Alaitoc is endangered during them because as they reveal, it needs to periodically refuel by orbiting a star for a time. Chances seem high the interstellar gulf might be too far without a pitstop.

it wasn't destroyed they just couldn't realistically get back to the milky way because it would have taken thousands of years and the planet that had the super powered gate orbiting a unique star was destroyed

@@arcanegamer2723 The Captain of the that ship said that their FTL was destroyed during a Battle with the Wraith.

@@nobleman9393 Man I loved Stargate.

@@londonspade5896 I like SG Atlantis. For me, alien vampires were bigger threat for humanity (and ancients) than some tribe egyptian parasitic pseudogods. And this idea of being alone in different galaxy, looking for power source just to survive or maybe come back on earth. All the secrets of galaxy and Atlantis Starship. All new races and political stuff. It is similar - they come to different galaxy and wake up ancient space vampires from their nap.

@@Everthus4 Yeah Atlantis was my favourite, I meant I love the Stargate universe (and I liked that series too) Nothing beats the Wraith as villains for a series

Exactly.

But that's also stupid.

@@davidbowles7281 I think it’s cool

That seems off. I thought it was just edgy grimdark racism that we all love.

@@davidbowles7281 it's a consistent narrative theme that ties in with pre existing lore. You look at this at such a stupid surface level

The problem with that theory is why is the Emperor tripping the switch? The Pharos beaco during the heresy got thier attention but it is the Emperor's Astromicon that is luring in more and more Tyranids, they WANT the source of that light.

Interesting. . .

Tyranids are, clearly, biological Berserkers.

so a military isolating a city because said city has zombies. That's pretty awesome. It does explain why the nids don't just bulldoze everything.

I like this theory. Perhaps with the hive mind being the last old one and created humanity and Big E as an attempt to get rid of Chaos for good.

And then the Silent King started punching him a lot.

They shall be our finest warriors, these bugs who give themselves to eating everything. Like pudding we shall mould them and in the furnace of Norn-Queen we shall forge them. In great chitinous armor shall we clad them and with the greatest numbers will they be armed. They will have evolved tactics, strategies and bio-machines that after a couple millions of loses, no foe can best them in battle.They are our bulwark against the Necron. They are the Defenders of the DNA. They are our Space Bugs and they shall know no fear (within proximity of a Hive Tyrant). - The Old Ones

Does that mean the courier is the enslavers or necrons?

Standing here I realize

The Old Ones didn't make them.

Outside of the warm, cosy light of the Milky Way, there's only Grim Darkness.

Looked it up on google. Milky Way is 100,000 light years wide Avg distance between galaxies is 9,900,000 LIGHT YEARS!!! Yeah so basically why would anyone but a necron explore outside of it. And there’s the fact most races don’t have the time or resources as they’re too busy fucking each other over

Ah yes, Warhammer 40Krork-Billion

Damn! But some sisters of battle must make it, too, else, where am I to find my Battlemace 40 Million Neko Marines?! When the Nids close down the Big E Black Market Figurine Shop, where would I find my frilly powerarmor wearing Catgirls?!

@@arieshausdorff3396 hmm... I think I know morty plan for his next adventure with his grandpa

warhammer but only with da orks? now that'd be a dream come true. jokes aside space Shreks being the sole survivors of some insane calamity makes sense.

@@arieshausdorff3396 I'm probably breaking some lore by saying this but the Nids could eventually become anime catgirls after adapting against Slaanesh.

"I'm you, but better"

One is a chad the other is a big virgin

What about comparing bel'akor and bel'akor?

I expect to see you commenting on every single video from hereon out

@@ChillAssTurtle god damnit I will

Ctans are one of the many things that are underutilized in 40k. mostly because they're not of human origin

@@isuckatusernames4297 liiiiiiek I know guard also don't get enough rep but, MORE XENO STUFF, MORE CONSISTENTLY, PLZ

I'm still waiting for the Outsider to return.

@@numnaut1314 outsider, which one is that again (you hear enough 40k eldritch horror names and they start to blend together)

@@Scrombo2 The Outsider is the only C'tan that wasn't broken to pieces. After eating some of his C'tan bros he felt so bad he fled before the Necron uprising, he's currently eating solar energy in his dyson phere.

Milky Way being terrible since the warp don’t go much further out of Milky ways borders. The warp is a construct of all living beings beliefs and desires in the Milky Way. So makes sense it is just for this galaxy.

@@mikkel066h Only if other galaxies don't have sentient life. Unless GW massively retconned the Warp to be something entirely artificial and unique, it's a natural by-product of life itself interacting with the laws of the universe. Which would mean any populated galaxy would have its own "Warp"... whether like islands in a vast sea, or like individual bubbles surrounded by emptiness.

@@mikkel066h this also means each galaxy that has life has it's own chaos gods

@@Maggot-Milk Well not necessarily chaos gods, since those were constantly built up by specific things fueling them for millennia across the entire galaxy. If there's not a mass of those types of emotions then you'd just have minor entities existing and whatever life evolved there.

@@Maggot-Milk Possible yeah. Milky Way's is only so ass because we've had several different empires/civilizations spanning the galaxy for stupidly long amounts of time fueling aspects that became chaos. Even modern stuff in 40K is filled with it

With the amount of stars in extreme orbit of the galaxy ... they could stay away from everyone forever ... but that would make a terrible story.

Except the edge of the galaxy is always the first place to encounter a new Hive Fleet making its incursion. So any such Craftworlds would be under constant threat of Tyranid invasion.

@@PhailRaptor the chances of one of the miniscule number of tyranid hive fleets travelling through the void accidentally intercepting the eldar craftworld is pathetically tiny

@@no-np8dwyeah and they had ample opportunities to do it before a device I forgot the name of that was destroyed by some space marines that resulted in a “Food Food Food” like beacon that attracted the tyranids

Better yet krorks the last ones with their devolved cousins waging the biggest waagggggggh ever against the nids across billion of galaxies and the nids we see are running from a massive defeat

​@@Bananakingchad krorks might very much exist in the outskirts of the galaxy because of the constant fight against tyranids

I think it's more likely Orks and Tyranids are limited to the local galactic group and perhaps nearest neighboring galaxy groups of the Virgo supercluster

40k is pretty ridiculous at times

bs not true. There are other civilizations out there

Like what exactly?

@@suacemanaquiatan9380 a hot pocket that’s just a little too hot

@@suacemanaquiatan9380 maybe a very powerful eldritch horror that could rival the chaos gods.

Ah yes the classic theory that the Tyranids are actually running away from something much worse, just like the Xenians from Half-Life.

The Old Ones don’t strike me as grim dark. Yes they created the Warp as it is today, but not intentionally, and they aren’t described as malevolent or evil.

Doubtful, as the Tyranids feel no fear. Big E will try to scare off the Tyranids, and then attracted a trillion more, like moths to a flame.

I don't want to be rude to you - but in comparision to all the other stories so far - this would feel like a cheap cop-out from a corner the writers have written themselves into. That would be the literal deus-ex-machina.

@@robertnett9793 I’m purely going off of what lore has been established. Never did I say it was fair, balanced, or even narratively satisfying. It is purely what has been revealed to us thus far

Bjorn the Felhanded also searched out beyond the galaxies edge for Russ and says the stars there "burn with strange fires".

Short version: all psykers use the warp as a source of energy to manipulate reality, some use established methods (sorcerers and most imperial psykers) others go for more random stuff that either fits their personality (people attuned to nature would for example get an ability to sense what happens in a forest or stuff like that) or is a version of established systems they developed by themselves, often times more unstable. In all of the possibilities, the fundamental nature of the psyker as well as their talent is what influences what kind of powers they'll develop the most, tho weak but very experienced psykers can still outclass powerful but novice ones, so knowledge and experience is also vital. Of course all of this applies to human psykers, Eldar and Ork ones, as well as other races outside the tabletop, work a bit or wildly different (with Orks in particular, they just don't use the warp, but rather the Waaaagh energy), but the general gist of what I wrote still applies. Regarding your question, I'd say neither, and rather refer to Dragon Age, where all mages also channel the energies of an inmaterial realm which is also inhabited by demons that can possess unprepared casters

So eventually nids will grind down chaos too

@@legion999 I'm inclined to agree, but I look forward to seeing it. As the Nids eat more sentients, Chaos will eventually dwindle, and their mortal followers are biomass, like so many others, while Chaos may find it hardcto effectively fight them in a way thatcdoesnt cause the collateral damage that would simply help weaken Chaos, but it will be so nice to actually see Chaos fight on the defense, and because they actually have to, as opposed to want to. Maybe their Dark Mechanicus will create some weird devices that can target, and destroy, Tyranid DNA, or suck whole segments of Hive Fleets into the Warp, but otherwise, I think I see it going for the Nids.

Not enough time passed for debris to reach anything outside the milky way ... 60mil years is nothing on a galaxy scale.

@@MrFallenone There's plenty of warp based fuckery that you could explain it as being teleported out and/or propelled at massively FTL speeds

"Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."

That or they pointed the ship the wrong way and whoever was navigating said they were almost there, whole ship bought into and boom they're in another galaxy

Well no imperium is automatically a step up.

Orks are also intergalactic "Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."

@@AbstractTraitorHero I mean... maybe? But with how bad warp corruption can get and with tyranids being a problem seemingly... everywhere, it wouldn't surprise me if every other alien civilisation out there was at the very least opressive and xenophobic, or so the pessimist in me says.

@@erds4113 Well we have enough evidence that plenty of xeno civilizations are not absolutely horrid. The T'au's allies even their psychic ones seem genuinely pretty cool and benevolent overall besides maybe the Nagi. Even the Milky way which has things at their worst for aliens has many many alien civilizations not corrupted by Chaos. So I would think things are relatively okay, even if Orks and perhaps tyranids are a threat to these peoples.

@@AbstractTraitorHero I was more thinking 'galactic powers'. Most of the Tau and their allies can be better because they're less spread out and have encountered less bs out in the wild. Meanwhile the Imperium, Necrons, and pre-fall Eldar Empires were all brutal or insane in their own ways while being galaxy spanning. My take on it is that 40k's universe is so brutal by nature that every sizeable empire ends up becoming worse for it.

Absolutely. From isolated colony worlds, or even a single habitat type space station, to a full K2 / K3 class civilization you can have literally anything. All the species in the milkyway have their heads so deep up their collective asses that none of them takes the time to step back, take a look and see how much better stuff they could do when they'd be willing to drop traditional design philosophies. But as we see with real world humanity, realizing one is on the wrong lane and actually deciding to do something agaisnt it are two steps that seem to be utterly exotic and incomprehensible even in concept to people in power. So, about humans outside the galaxy: There are many factors of why they would do their utmost best to stay away from the shitshow the Milkyway has become: 1) They were interested in stuff not okay during the DAOT. With the IOM being very strict about a lot of things... When you fled the Commonwealth of Man, you have even more reasons to stay away from IOM. And I am not worried about the mental health of your toasters here. 2) Any mixed society - humans and aliens, humans and geners, AI/AC, uplifts and baseline humans, whatever - will have perfect reasons to get even further away from the IOM than they were from anything ever before. 3) As we can, with our current technology, build stuff that would make the IoM piss its pants and which would be on a level with the Necrons toys, such a group also has a good reason to get more distance between itself and the IoM and the other species: As not to pour even more oil into the fire. So, yes, you can have a lot out there between the galaxy and its satellites and even beyond that. If I remember correctly there was the Herrman von Salza, an armed colony vessel around M11, which used a non-warp FTL drive. It had the speed to cross the galaxy within a few years, just the way it travelled irradiated everything so strongly inside it that no matter what, the crew would be either hideously mutated or simply fried even after just a day of travel. So, great drive system, well capable to reach other places like even other galaxies. Just you would literally have to either go with a full AI crew or would have to make tiny hops, always going from one star system to the next, to build your bridge to another galaxy, waiting for a new generation between hops. Or maybe make that better some generations for damages to the genome to heal. So, possible it is.

Yes 🛐

I've just connected a couple of this. Ratchet and Clank's Tyrrahnoids are just WH 40K's Tyranids but toned down holy shit I had to comment this

Incorrect.

Theyre everywhere "Millenia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to reach the utmost limit of the universe. The Techpriests who built it hoped that it would someday return to its place of origin. The probe still sends back faint signals after 14,000 years adrift. To the utter despair of the Imperial Techpriests who monitor the incessant battery of incoming signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there's a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or won't be long in arriving."

Whys that?

This.

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That's fucking terrifying

They are implied to be running away as much as they are implied to be looking to consume yet another galaxy

It's never been implied they're running from anything.

What is first really?

Damn - I was so close. "Second" I guess.

@@tzeentchlordoffates9268 looks like it master

@@iurhejfdsnvc I'm the second