The 5 LEAST Played Jobs In FFXIV 

Jobs that have too many skills and fill up nearly 3 hotbars is a big red flag and undesirable to me. Machinist, Summoner and Dragoon are some good job examples that have nice flow and not 9999 skills

​@@xx_phantastic_xx honestly, i disagree with the dragoon is a good job example, dragoon on level max has a very long combo rotation and currently has the most positional weaponskill compared to other job, and too many ogcd in between combo to maximize the damage output. Monk now is okay and decent to play compared the old one Reaper is nice Samurai also straight forward Honestly, all job is easy when u setup your hotbar correct

​@@xx_phantastic_xx yea usually too many skills just feels like a bloat

@@mbsw28 yea most class is not that bad once u get it down to muscle memory

Mostly just comes down to how busy a job feels. Ast, Brd, Rdm, Mnk, Gnb, these jobs are all notoriously busier than other jobs in their respective roles yet there's no damage reward to incentivize the extra effort to learn them. That said some people really like that kind of play style though so while certainly not for me I'm glad there's something there for the players that like that

thats true, ppl dont call it a rez mage for nothing!@

No one noticed or thought it was the healer. 0 comms

@@surfangel8572 sadge

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Red mages are so beneficial for the instant Rez. I’ve seen so many fights with first timers where a Rez mage prevented a wipe.

@@kiteblaze6241its a clutch job

rez mage is very cool job

I love RDM, it is my favorite class. I hate that dmg is so low, but utility is absolutely awesome... and I already got used to not receive any recs after I ress both dead healers... :)

It is sad to see, Red Mage used to be one of the mid->high range classes and was super popular during SB and ShB, specifically for its easy play style and quick-ressing abilities. They got super-nerfed when compared to other classes in EW endgame content, yet still remains one of the best classes to run PotD solo

The fighting and visual aesthetics of RDM make my heart sing the sweetest tunes, and being able to save a party from an impending wipe turns that into the most glorious chorus. RDM main, now and forever.

Been there, done that, too many times. Doesn't matter to me. I know I saved the party's bacon. @@blrblr1

its hot

after Noct was nuked, it got bland

Yes. They took our shield/regen specialty. I REALLY loved having both. They destroyed the job. They didnt need to take our ahield away so Sage could exist.

​@@celuiquipeut6527 They had to , Astro could litterally do everything. That class was completely unbalanced and still somewhat is seeing how skilled Astro can solo-heal some High level content.

Yeah I’ve played it since Stormblood and preferred that iteration over what we got later, now that the job is going through a complete overhaul for the new exp, not just its millionth rework, I’ve been playing other jobs as I don’t think I’ll like the changes. It’s a shame; but it’s always been a hot topic in the community. Too complicated, too inconvenient, too hard to learn. But it’s always had the edge in (almost) every expansion. Interested to see what they are going to do with it, but not excited.

its fantastic to play, my favourite healer for sure

lots of people do play. lots of new players trying it out and taking astro into new savage content on crystal and aether from what ive seen.

I used to main Astro in SB and the other SB but then they deleted half the class by removing the shield stance. My friend and cohealer was a WHM so I switched to Sage. Astro was a lot more fun and Sage bores me to death without the card system. In hard content you just press one button for most of the time since damage intervals are predetermined. No reactivity no brain use. I still don't understand why they thought that Noct had to go away just so there's 2 shield and 2 regen healers... Who cares if there 1.5 to 2.5....

@@IamQuh I was a heavy noct user as well. They say it's because of bringing sage in and trying to balance out the jobs. But what I don't understand is that, why take away an ability that is apart of the uniqueness of the job? Astrologian was created to have duality between shielded healing and regeneration healing. To have one without the other, sort of 'cheapens' Astro and makes it less interesting.

​@honeypop33 I agree. It was a unique thing the Astro have. In fact Barrier Astro was actually strong. I clear E11s with it after I kept messing up as a dragoon 😂

I think he said that, just did a really bad job of phrasing it. he said "if you forget your dot that's a huge amount of damage lost" when he meant "if you forget to refresh your dot"

@kilvas I think what I heard was, "you have to apply them one at a time each time you want to refresh the dot." Which is where I noticed either the phrasing was off or he forgot Iron Jaw is an ability to help with that.

hahaha as a BRD main I came to the comments to say the same thing xD

@@amaren849 he was talking about if you forget them and let them run out. if you forget to hit iron jaw then they run out and you have to reapply them one by one

Bard was my first Job and main until I picked up Samurai and I was wondering why he had Iron Jaws on his hotbar but said they have to be reapplied 1 by 1 lmao I am glad that I am not the only one who noticed.

true, thats the plus side for bard

Plus Iron Jaws still refreshes both your DOTs within a snapshot window, yeah?

Yeah, Iron Jaws refreshes both. I love Bard's place as a support/dps hybrid. So much team utility.

Nature's Mine is also very strong.

2 big cons I ditched my bard after 90'd it. 1- bard hates other bards in a party as both tripped over their songs and god help you if there's a third. 2- even if you die once, your whole song rotation is pretty messed up and hard to recover.

i'd say there are many other flashier jobs out there but red mage does has its own unique asthetic

I've played rdm since playing ff14 however I used to play as one on ff11 aswell so wasn't a hard choice to choose what class I wanted to play

its a hell of a grind

It feels so good when you find all the right spots to set up those ley lines in high end content

Black mage has literally Quickcast + 3 Insta casts with Triple Cast. What do you have to plan? The Leyline at the beginning when every raid has raidwide and nothing happening for the first 60 seconds of the fight? Not even red mage can swiftcast 4 times in a row.

I mained Ninja and then recently picked up blm and have found it to be incredibly easy by comparison. XD

I find it easy to manage but with a very boring rotation.

huh im feeling the opposite, its hard to learn easy to master compared to other melees other than reaper since u have no movement restriction at all and its extremely flexible

I get why you feel that way, but was certainly not my experience with it. Different strokes and all that, I can also see that I may be biased having mained the job for years at this point.

MNK was fairly popular at the start of Shadowbringers, even though it has historically not been very popular.

Still waiting for something like a Hadouken for MNK ranged attack or probably something like "stone throw" as a pugilist and it later on upgrades to become a Hadouken.

@@edboy5418There is. It's called Enlightenment, level 74. 5 stacks of chakra.

I main Monk too and I never understood the hate on Monks, it even became way more easier after 6.0. Hence I am always happy to have a fellow monk on my team when running content. ^^ Same with RDM, it’s pretty fun to play with. I find SAM way more harder (and honestly I gave up on this job).

@@Eliaranive never heard of anyone “hateing” mnk, moreso just heard ppl havent tried it , or if they have tried it they think its fun. in fact i usually hear more praise than anything else. hell i dont even hear ppl say its hard unless explaining it to someone who hasnt tried it. and i frequently talk to a variety of diff ppl about jobs lol im very sociable in the game

I find monk difficult in managing the damage buff, dot, leaden fist, and positionals. I think im probably too used to playing casters and physical ranged lol. I would’ve given up on the job if the weapons didn’t look so cool

@@iambecomegameend2972 It's not really something you "manage" the timer always come up every other rotation. So your rotation is just 'without timers' -> 'with timers' -> 'without timers' -> 'with timers'

For me it's mainly because I can't stand the ability effects. They feel too needlessly flashy.

u let em know!

i like it too, everybody loves a bard in limsa

"Random list if classes I dont personally like with no real numbers to back up my opinion"

red mage is defos fun, many times it comes up clutch when i was leveling in dungeon where without red mage, its a doomed run xd

RDM is my main because it has that ability to save the whole party's bacon when stuff goes way sideways... and because it's so flashy and fun to watch the skills and actions! And... there simply is no better-looking LB3 than Vermillion Scourge. I like the other LB3s, but RDM's is the ver-best!

@@HayTatsuko I feel like its the closest we'll ever get to a LB3 that is Ultima... assuming the next expansion doesn't add a ascian themed caster class...

it is quite a fun job indeed, can be challenging if u are new to the game! 👍

i said it lacks ogcd instant aoe heals, thats a cast time reduction

Lightspeed will reduce the cast time of a GCD spell. He actually said it lacks of oGCD instant heals to top up everyone HP. If you use lightspeed, you still need to use a GCD. I just don’t agree 100% with this statement bc you can blow up your star or macrocosmos, like WHM with lilybell or plenary + gcd aflatus. The main problem of AST is the card system, how random it can be. Not as bad as SB AST, but still very busy on that.

@@TaneeShion yea u certainly can but u lose value since its better to wait until it pops on its own

AST has plenty of ogcd heals like celestial opposition, divine intervention, earthly star, horoscope and neutral sect&celestial intercession for a bit of shield stacks And Lady of Crowns but that is unreliable Yes, this healer job is quite busy with many buttons but it also gives strong dps buffs and as JoCat said "DPS is mitigating future damage". Faster your dps friends take down the threat, safer it is to proceed *Think of AST as a hybrid white mage heals and bard with the damage buffs*

​@@ahmedfalahy9337 yes it does, but those are not good instant ogcd aoe heals and most are regeneration over time, as well as higher value when delayed to end effect

Exactly Before the Rework. They have screwed so many Jobs doing that.

thats the worse lol

shame i wasnt here when there was nocturnal sect

It wasn't for the balance, it was because they wanted 2 Regen healers and 2 Shield healers, and they better don't give the 5th healer the hybrid threatment because I'll be genuinely mad for that

@@Gabo710 lul

@@Gabo710 I'm just holding out hope that they add some unique spice to some classes in DawnTrail. Cause every class being balanced around 2min buffs is just a bit odd imo. It makes it so everything is viable, but everything feels the same

its even funnier when you recognize that SGE is absolutely not a shield healer, it is 100% a regen healer. Panhaima and Haima are SGE only real claim to being a shield healer, its GCD shields are just meh compared to SCH. Meanwhile, it has the most oGCD regen uptime of any healer between kerachole and physis 2 and outside of savage or ultimate you can heal everything on SGE with just its kerachole and physis 2 for the most part lol.@@Gabo710

such is life 😓

lul

Ngl the complexity of AST is what made me start wanting to learn it as my 2nd job and it’s been fun learning

I love AST, I do not get Sage i hate it lol

@@556uwv I am sad af that I kinda hate sage lmao, AST is my fav of any job and the other healers feel fine but something about sage just makes me mad when i play it

@@itsxolix i agree i feel like such a weak healer with it hhaa

i get bored of jobs quite easily, astro is defos one of the more fun jobs out there

yea, slight bit of planning required vs other healers

thats true, there are still some varieties out there for ppl to pick 👍

To Be fair, out of 19 classes (not counting BLU), the unique classes shouldn't be the outlier. What if they want, example, the feel of DRK but don't want it to feel so much like WAR? I do think the homogenized argument is valid, and I agree they need to show interest in the unique classes to encourage the devs to consider it, but I do think it's a little erroneous to expect someone to play those classes just because. Many don't like the flavor/style of MNK. That's not something they should be faulted for.

enjoy brroo

thx bro

i wish i was there honestly everybody always talk about it

I miss Diurnal and Nocturnal sect :( It made fitting into the 8 mans easier. If I was witha white mage I'd shield, with a scholar I'd go Diurnal. If another astro I'd let them pick which they wanted and adjust. Still love the aesthics and the they have the prettiest spells IMO. It's just a bummer. I wasn't playing in HW but they keep dumbing the jobs down. across the board I feel like.

​@kelestriamoonbowk.mhammers407 omg I totally forgot about this :(....i always wondered why I stopped playing AST after endwalker and this is definitely it. For me this was a bigger hit than the constant card buff changes, now that I think about it.

SB ast was so much more fun. New AST has barely any RNG whereas SB AST could get you a considerable amount more damage with expanded balance and C.Opp would net you those juicy 10 extra seconds of expanded balance. Still love the class but it's been dumbed down so much since then and the card mechanic just feels tacked on now as opposed to how fleshed out it used to be.

I use Triggernometry to call out cooldowns

not if u drop them?

not if u drop them

@@StingcatKnight but WHY drop them?

@@DeepbloodFang u've never dropped them once in ur life?

@@StingcatKnightonly when the boss goes off the field, but the ones that do that are very few. Even then, it's not hard to reapply them both.

@@DeepbloodFang wow amazing, an esports org should pick u up 😱

yea it is a solid heal ability, it looks lovely too

Yaaasss~

fflogs/personal experience, ffcensus site is pretty bad for judging this 'Any reference to "Endgame" characters, refers to characters that have claimed the following item: The minion & mount for completing the Endwalker Main Scenario Quest from the Patch 6.0 story'

At lvl90 Essencial Diginity won't do it. A tank at that lvl has 120k+ hp. If the tank has less than 30% hp, ED will heal up around 25k hp (no crit). Horoscope heals 200 (12k) potency if it's activated by aspected helios. Sadly, it's a lot of time to end up around maybe 50% hp (no crits). WHM has benediction and Afflatus solace + tetragrammaton (45k hp, no crits).That means 1 tank insta topped and another player with almost full hp if dps/healer. Also, this isn't under Asylum or Temperance.

Didn't he say AOE healing oGCD? Maybe I misheard that. But yeah, ED for single target (two charges, even, which WHM's Tetra doesn't have) and...Celestial...Opposition? Intersection? One of those. Given, SGE and SCH seem to have more. Ironic considering they're supposed to be barrier/mitigation healers...

AST's huge, emergency heal is not Essential Dignity, it is Synastry. People don't know how to use it, and people get trapped thinking that Essential Dignity is. It's the AST equivalent of trying to get freecure as a WHM, use Dignity like you use Tetra. AST is a pretty powerful healer, but it's just that it's less straight forward compared to WHM. Macrocosmos lets me ignore mechanics. Neutral Sect lets me solo heal when my co-healer is making out with the floor. It's just a job that requires you to read your tooltips and do math, and to be fair - the busy nature of it isn't for everyone. It's a bit of a learning curve that is very rewarding once everything clicks.

Lol meanwhile im glad if im the only rdm in our party xD

u make up 20% of the red mage mains population🙏

might be a good thing, u wont ever have to deal with same job delaying ur buffs

My main issue with redmage is kind of petty probably but I just don't feel like most of the spell effects and sound design feel all that good. There's little impact or punch to the main spells so almost everything except the big finishers just feels unsatisfying compared to summoner or blackmage. Though given the jobs generally lackluster damage I guess that is appropriate.

it is way more fun and engaging, hmm i'd say theres lot more things/tools u can use at higher level with ast

yea bard does less personal damage than machinist and more difficult to play in general

Yea I main it just cause I like how much is going on in the opener and burst and I just gravitate towards ranged classes I really only play Summoner though when it comes to Magical Ranged. Red Mage just isn’t very interesting to me and I refuse to touch Black Mage lmao

@@rjohn1277bard is defos a fun job to play!

didnt know dragon kick rotation still valid 😎

It is, though you have to make sure to keep perfect balance and true north up, and drop in a few twin snakes + debuffs + blitzes when you get them@@StingcatKnight

pure dragon kick only doesn't work as well anymore, now it's more "PB TN twin snakes demo dragon kick blitz when it procs" but once you get it down it's easy enough

that said, the advantage that has is it's very loose and easy to pick back up again at any point post being raised or having to drop everything and run from a close attack so you DON'T need to be raised e.g even if you have a brain freeze and DON'T hit PB or TN first or have a bonus on dragon kick, the direct and crit damage is *still* solid

i used fflogs

aggro drop actions ? whats that 😮

@@StingcatKnight Old cross class actions like Quelling Strikes (archer). We had to level other classes to use their actions. It was mandatory for BLMs to have that at 2.0 3.0

@@dieesel1 very interesting, i would have loved to experience that 😯😯

yea the good thing about astro is it u dont have as much of a mana problem as something like a white mage

Ah, I was wondering if it was just me having problems with mp as Whm. It had gotten to the point where I was carrying ether variants to help when I was critically low and needed a bit more until lucid dreaming could be used again.

Between lily + thin air and lucid/Asize on cd I don’t see how people have issues with mp

@@Baaforsheep Prior to lv 50 was my issue. The only MP regen before this level is Lucid Dreaming, and I never felt that was enough. By the time the Lily system was there, the damage was already done. I already hated the job.

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fflogs does not suggest blm and rdm being most played jobs

yea i just play whatever i feel like these days, playing the same job can get quite boring unless u are doing end game content

definitely play what u like!

yea they are all very fun to play! but for most its not worth it if its too difficult

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ud8IwdyoE20.html check out this video i made when the settings got released

@@StingcatKnight thanks so much!

@@WishfuIThinking hope u find it useful

are u a lalafell? a true limsa gamers necessity

@@StingcatKnight lol yep 😬

eh whats that?

Level Up!?

thx brothermen king lalafell

thx for watching👍, its just how it is, most ppl will flock to an easier job if the content is hard, with 2 minute buff window being universal thing for all jobs, it should be lot easier to balance things u'd think.. 😔😔

As someone who clawed and crawled along with Egi and a grab bag of weak abilities from ARR beta to the revision, I admit that I take little issue with their refinement today. 😆 People easily forget how *bad* some classes were and why they received boosts and play style/role changes.

listen to it again

its simple not but not as simple summoner and with way less damage, i've seen red mage like once or twice in end game raiding

time for red mage mains to raise up

Lol lightspeed. It's usually an issue with MP usage. One reason is that people are probably use to playing WHM, and they use a lot of single targets healing, which transitioning over to Astro, they think they can still do single target healing. When doing single target healing and forgetting to 'draw', people run out of mp..fast. Draw generates 500 mp with each card draw (later on level 90 you get 3 card draws, 80{approx}is 2). Aspected Helios + Draw(as soon as ready)= BBF uwu ✨

its sexiest healer 💪

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ah ye that could be a problem

honestly rdm should do similar rdps as summoner at least, since it is more difficult to play i dont remember bard being nerfed but its always been very unpopular oh i think 2k more personal dps is huge, because u are basically a melee in personal dps, if the group is not doing good u can still pop off on ur own and not be dependant on others

@@StingcatKnight But we are talking about a group effort: when everybody except you dont pull their weight, it doesnt matter how high your personal dmg is. It wont be enough. Better to make sure your team gets better, or looking for a new one. And I agree: rdm and smn shouldnt be apart when it comes to dmg...

The only time 2k dps will matter is if you die at 0.1%. And at that point it still doesn’t matter cuz you didn’t wipe cuz not enough damage. You wiped cuz you failed too many mechanics before that. Also swapping from BRD to MCh does not mean you’ll immediately get an extra 2k dps. You’ll always get more dps out of the job you’re familiar with. As for the reason some of these aren’t played. MCH has more damage than BRD and DNC is easier to play. Idk the difference in support buff between the 2 numbers wise but I imagine that plays a factor as well. As for casters I gotta disagree. I see a ton of RDM mains. One of the more common ones along with RPR. BLM was nailed on the head. Difficult job that not everyone is willing to put the time into leveling let alone learning all the ins and outs of it. Then we throw SMN in there with a super easy rotation and a rez and decent damage. Ofc SMN is gunna be played more. But RDM is still played more than SMN in my experience. Regardless of the damage it’s not a difficult job. It has dual casting and Rez which makes the default best rezzer period. No healer can compete with that. Monk has a strict rotation. You want to cycle between them for the buff and damage and the 2nd style(apologies for not remember the monk forms). Then you have to swap the third form for single damage and putting up a dot. And that’s just the rotation between burst phases. Then there astro. It’s the cards. Nothing else. It’s just the cards. They force you to swap between boss for personal damage and different party members for buffs.and that’s just with ogcd. Then throw on the fact it’s optimal pull time is 30 seconds. Yea. I can understand why it’s not popular. TLDR 2k dps doesn’t matter in the long run. DNC is easier to play than BRD. I see a lot of RDM mains. BLM is difficult. Monk dot and buff on basic combo balance. And Astro cards

@@Someone_3lse yea its kinda like if ur group is not doing great then bard/dnc wont be great and bard is more difficult so its not worth it

Unless your goal is to speed farm/get records in high end cintent you should prioritize jobs you like to play/are good at over jobs which have higher theoretical dps. Generally, you will clear if you resolve mechanics without dropping too much, regardless of class chouce. Lower dps jobs are "worth" learning if you enjoy them and have motivation to learn hiw to play them well. A good rdm will out-dps a bad blm or sam while also bringing useful utility. Not to say classes are all well balanced per se but the margins are small enough where it wont realistically impact your avility to do content.

For eureka specifically, it’s because rdm functions as a dps and healer in one job. You can heal yourself and other people in a pinch as well as rez dead people on eureka while still being able to put out decent damage. It’s a very solo and group friendly job

ooh interesting, i have not yet done eureka myself

@@swamp-puppy14 yep, it's very nice

Idk if ppl are taking it too far with the meme, it is a thing, most ppl just arent great at blm in casual content so i dont think they are intentionally doing these things, they probably end up staying inside aoes trying to not drop their fire stack and in harder content blms difficulty jumps up a notch ur instant cast spell options isnt always avaliable and u want to use it when others are using their buffs so that comes into the idea of planning ahead which is way more effort than a job like summoner/red mage, not only that when u dont have these instant cast options and trying to move for mechanics it becomes awkward trying to not drop ur firestack and keep damage up, and knowing the fight well enough to plan ur leylines too which is another thing to further keep in mind and often makes blm mains play summoner first in day 1 prog then switching to blm once they know the fight

im not sure thats good advice, keep your ley lines on cooldown, or its just a lost usage. some uptime in the ley lines is better than none, but the problem you run in to with casual players is being dead set in being in those ley lines even when they mess up the placement. there are some instances where you need to hold it later or drop them earlier, but again everything about black mage is it being encounter dependant. as a general rule though, always use LL off cooldown. i agree that it has a lot of movement as well if you plan well but again like anything else you should be using your triple casts off cooldown *generally* as well. triple casts should be well planned out so ur not lacking when movement is needed, there is so much movement in black mage though aside from just triple cast. btw this is not advice that i'm making up, this is what is said by the Balance and really good black mage players.

I don't know man seen plenty of bad blackmages hard focus on that DPS meter and mouth off to the healer when they don't get instantly healed after face tanking mechanics because they refused to move and loose a few DPS.

real MVP

enjoy mnk, and im surprised rose online looks pretty old but its still active WOW 🤯🤯

@@StingcatKnight Yea the game got revived from the dead last year I think and a lot of people still came back. The game just refuses to die LOL. It is a good game anyways just really old

yes and?

​@@StingcatKnight1:28 "you have to reapply them, one by one, instead of refreshing both at once" but im saying you can refresh both at once with Iron Jaws wpnskill.

@@HyouVizer @1:23 Did you miss the part 5 seconds prior that mentions them falling off completely? You can't refresh with Iron Jaws if the DoTs has fallen off completely.

​@@lolRNG you actually can. FF14 server ticks are every 3 seconds, can apply Iron Jaws even if both dots fall off within that time frame. But my point of original comment is, you can refresh brd dots with iron jaws instead of "one by one" as they said.

thx for feedback

thats a shame, i wish i played it before the rework as many people talk about it often, and yea u can clear all content without any issuse with any job but doing less damage than u feel like u should sucks

yea summoner may be easy but in a way also makes it quite fun tbh

oh i see them, but not as much as other jobs lets say, especially in higher end content

He must mean in high end raiding, like savage for example. It's very often to see these jobs in casual content though.

im glad to hear that, plant the seed on others heart to play more red mage!

Rdm was my first 90. The simplicity of the class made it great but also a bit boring compared to others.

@@iceheart3012 there are other classes thats more fun thats for sure

@@StingcatKnight You gotta spice it up. I played Castrum Meridianum so many times for the last tomestone event that I had every fight memorized. I'd wait until the Eft boss was almost dead, and then backflip away from it to be the first one to the port to the next level. In any dungeon I like to throw a bunch of AoE hits while the tank's going wall-to-wall, then gap-close to catch up, and do it again. There's one part on the final boss where you have to close the gap, then get to the side of the arena. I got to where I could charge at her in the middle and then quickly flip away to safety. Fun as hell and I guarantee I got extra comms for it. Finding little ways to cheat the system can be just as rewarding as big fire go boom.

yea astrologian is pretty fun for sure!

it is shame u dont do as much on bard with the amount of effort u need

@@StingcatKnight Yeah. Bard is in weird spot that it doesn't do enough damage compared to other dps jobs like machinist but also not have well defined support actions like dancer.

@@xitrum1902 one day bard will have its glory

@@StingcatKnight Good news! Bard gets buffed!...slightly.

i agree!

Please leave brd alone. All the phys are in a good spot of variety

@@MrCarlWax they should give it a little buff

ooh i dont know if its gonna get reworkd, the man himself yoship mains this job and i think he does the testing of new fights too so it must mean hes satisfy with it

I’m main blm too but to be honest I want the job to stay the same the fun of playing blm when reality hits you , how to keep ur rotation inside the fight different than the dummy, imagine they make leylines can be shared with other blm 😂 in alliance raid all blm will be looking for other leylines hahaha For me I want blm always to be hard to job to play in fast fights

@@patchi83 that'd be so op lol

naaaaaaah part of the fun is the difficulty and figuring out how to make your mechanics work in spite of the mechanics the game is throwing at you. Yoshi p actually plays the class too, so he's designing stuff to account for Black Mage as well. I'm so tired of reworks. Complicated classes deserve to exist too and not everything needs to be dumbed down so everyone can be good at it.

​@@patchi83haven't played in a hot while but I thought the same about LL for possible revamps or maybe being able to chuck them anywhere u want and then Between the Lines to em lol or better yet like u said having a stacking ability with multiple LLs or buff party members debuff mob/boss I dunno been a while but I miss it...went too hard with no game no life lol forgot where I put my "irl" abilities...I stoppee once before and had to relearn EVERYTHING....and then learn all the new EVERYTHINGS 😭😭 BLM4LIFE hmmm..what about a "MageyZord" LB 😂 kinda like an Alexander looking thing for magic hand roles lol and BLM should get a "shadow clone" ability to mitigate any incoming, unavoidable damage, call it "Sleight of Hand" 😅 if Scathe and Sleep are still there i dunno how about combine the 2 somehow instead of just letting BLM have 2 punchline, uber nerfed, useless AF, hotbar cringe abilities....just sayin'...maybe things have changed since my self enacted exile lol i dunno

real 🫡

I'm an OG blackmage player. I remember when they used shields and had an ability to vampire a monster. There was this skill I used to spam with Scathe in rotation while waiting on my still times. It was a 400 power spell that would give 30% of the damage done to you as HP for heals. The mode of operation for me in raids was to keep transposing to keep the buff, then spam those 2 fast spells to keep HP high, then stand in leylines during a good opportunity and pop off.

i missed out on it

thats true and real, definitely play what u enjoy most

hmm, that might just kill the jobs identity tbh, i think the cards is what makes astro unique, otherwise u play other healer

hmm...

we all love herr hakala

all tanks are played pretty often

@@StingcatKnight Yeah even GNB who imo way harder to play as WAR or PLD, i guess because he is hard and some people like his aggressive almost dps like rotation.. WAR is for my taste almost to easy, i like the aesthetic of the class, but after he lose his unique charge (in ShB his Charge cost 20 Gauge Point but have a range of 20y while all other tanks have 15y in ShB) the class feel not rly exciting anymore.. i prefer PLD for Dungeons (and for Raid if DRK is taken) and DRK for Raids.. both have a nice middle ground in difficulty because GNB can be really strict in the rotation when you have to weave all the mitigation.