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The 7 Secret Painting Techniques I learned from my Mentor: Master Artist, Odd Nerdrum 

Dustin Neece
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In this 2 hour painting lecture / demo I did my best to share the principles and techniques I learned during my apprenticeship with Odd Nerdrum. The themes of his painting may be dark, but there is no question that he is a master. Nearly everything I say I do in this video is also practiced by Odd. Not all... but most.
The first half of the video I talk a bit about my overall experience and get into my general painting process and some of the tools I use. Please note: Since this was an in person event and not initially meant as a youtube recording, you might not be able to hear all the audience questions and the flow of the lecture is not very straightforward as I was answering questions throughout the talk. I am posting this so that you can extract some of the valuable information that I share.
At 1:12:00, I list off and elaborate on the 7 most important techniques I learned which I have also listed below.
1. Be bold and learn to compare: Don't be afraid to put your art next to your favorite artist and learn to paint like them. You won't lose your own style, you will extract as much as you can and incorporate it into YOUR style. If you want to create master paintings, you need to have a clear idea of where you are, and where you want to go, with an unflinching resolve.
2. Be flexible, and learn to fumble through your painting: be open to changing everything in your painting. Don't be afraid to experiment. Don't be restricted by fear and the desire to know exactly what you will do next in your painting process.
3. Learn to destroy in order to create: using sandpaper or palette knives. Make your painting a sculpture as much as it is a painting.
(Be safe with these techniques - know what is in your paint, use a respirator or be outside in the fresh air, don't sand like crazy and create tons of dust in your studio.)
4. Use layering techniques - understand scumbling and glazing
5. Values are the key to creating a sense of realistic form and three dimensionality. Learn how to see and translate values well into your painting. The best tool I use is a black and white viewing filter. Also learn to view your paintings in different ways to see the errors...use a mirror, turn your painting upside down etc.
6. Work from life! - Life offers so much more information, you learn to see light, you learn to incorporate the energy of your surroundings into your paintings. You get to incorporate spontaneous experiences into your painting. (Like the one I describe at 1:29:00)
7. Working with a limited palette, making sure that you are working with pigments that harmonize naturally. Less is more!
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@MaineInF22
@MaineInF22 7 лет назад
Wow - never ceases to amaze me how people come to workshops like this and interrupt the class to tell them how THEY paint under the guise of a question.
@michelepastele5347
@michelepastele5347 3 года назад
I know! It's kind of disgusting if you're someone who wants to watch Dustin Neece speak ... you wonder if some of those in the audience absorbed ANYTHING. Plus, we have to listen to them when we want to hear Dustin. Very, very rude I think.
@deborahmiller1925
@deborahmiller1925 2 года назад
At the very beginning he encouraged them to question & remark
@stareenaspring815
@stareenaspring815 7 лет назад
I absolutely love his teaching style. He allows for things to happen, for change to happen, to allow the mood of the room create the experience; rather than being connected "to" the group, he became connected "with" the group, allowing individual energies to lead a thought or action. Just like a paintbrush to canvas moves with the energy of the artist, the mood, the ambiance, the ability to be present in one moment and wandering in another... he is the epitome of an artist... to create from within. This guy is light-hearted, interested in the energy of others, playful and just absolutely amazing. I see in him a beautiful energy of connectedness, open, courageous and has someone been able to move beyond the veil of psychology and named social "norms" to freely express himself, opening himself at every level. This is a man connected and high on art and life. He's incredible...
@neogerula
@neogerula 2 года назад
Gee , I loged in specially to congratulate you for this comment, you have to be a wonderfull lady, a joy of all around you.Like a living landmark for someone,of beeing connected to everything, anytime.So, feeling happy for what you have made of yourself, until now.
@sueruopp5038
@sueruopp5038 7 лет назад
Twenty minutes into lecture I decided to take notes! Here they are for your enjoyment, I hope! Work from life, be willing to change, do studies of proposed paintings, important to have texture, stain canvas as light as you can, he uses herringbone linen canvas, only medium he uses is linseed oil with a dryer in it, or a washed linseed oil, sanding the painting which creates a nice bond for the next layer, he uses vine or chalk to draw, he prepares the canvas with a chalk ground. Half linseed and turp or gambesol is paint medium. Expect to be satisfied for a while with a painting only to come back and decide NOW I can improve it! Learn to compare. You'll learn so much more you'll see the weaknesses compared to a master! Try to paint like an artist you admire. You'll learn more than way than any other way. Work with a limited palate.ivory black treated like blue,yellow,red and white. This guy uses red blue yellow black white.simple practices but not easy!
@sueruopp5038
@sueruopp5038 7 лет назад
I'm back taking notes. Bismuth yellow nontoxic cheaper and just as bright as cadmium..Kremer kremmer from n.y. Has pigments..he uses Princeton synthetic white brushes..don't sand if you used cadmium because sanding crests dust.. texture infinite direction hue saturation sculpture qualities. The paint itself is beautiful up close.uses80 or120 grade sandpaper.to sand the paint must be dry..wipe of dust. Then oil out. The wipe off excess oil.he varnishes with gambar. 1.learn to compare. Put your work RT next to them you will learn more that way than any other way..2.fumbling don't be linear . It limits your outcome. Experimenting be willing to change be willing to see what happens.start with a goal in mind but stay in the mind set of not knowing how or random .3learn how to destroy to creat. Use a palate knifeIt becomes a sculpture .4. Use layer on layer stumble on layers. Opaque on transparent and visersa 5.to creat sense of form or reality you have to obey the fact that values rule.. tool:by Tiffen. It's called black and white viewing filter51. $47 learn to see your painting differently. Mirror, upside down different lighting .6.working from life!, these are not rules but ways to experiment to discover your way.7. Paint from nature you'll see the pink in green and yellow in red and harmonics of life!!! 8. Work wit as few colors as possible and before you begin be sure these colors harmonize. 9. At end of day scrape all your mixed colors into a grey best grey ever.to creat shinning light put lightest on dark you get combination of color that can't come out any other way. Brighter on darker brings out cooler colors. And if you darker on lighter color the warmer aspect comes out. Prismatic effects. Learn to glaze ! If he's not proud enough then there's no risk of losing anything. It's not finished so there's no loss!!! light on dark not as bright as when you put it on a light! When do you know your done? When I can't see how to make it better!! So I hope these notes, as scrambled as they are have helped. Remember, I've been know to say ,"art is created from chaos until it's pleasant."
@rachelplymouthuk
@rachelplymouthuk 7 лет назад
Bless you, thank you for sharing that you are a saint
@lauren2882
@lauren2882 7 лет назад
Nice summary! I watched it through but it's nice to read your succinct notes. =)
@stewartkent7722
@stewartkent7722 7 лет назад
It was bad enough watching a disastrous demo let alone reading your notes on his......"lecture?"
@lauren2882
@lauren2882 7 лет назад
Stewart Kent Who spit in your coffee?
@neirinski
@neirinski 5 лет назад
“Harmonics of light”, that blew me away, as a painter and a musician, that made my day to understand color. Thank you for this nice video! Your a great teacher!
@carlpen850
@carlpen850 7 лет назад
As someone who has also taught art classes I can say that some of the most important things said in this video are... use a limited pallet... understand gray... understand gray, it's the base of all colors and color harmony. I don't agree with HAVING to paint from life... I can't always get outdoors because of the weather but... I don't think it matters what you use for reference... those things are just a starting point, it's where you go from there... it's all in your head, the job is getting it down on the surface you're working on.
@leminhanhkhoa1498
@leminhanhkhoa1498 3 года назад
i' m sorry but is it impossible for water color to apply Gray ? or you have to change to another concept to paint with water color ? like warm and cool
@Thesamurai1999
@Thesamurai1999 3 года назад
@@leminhanhkhoa1498 Watercolor works way differebtly than oil. However when you use watercolor you build up the values and chroma through many layers. Thus, the first layer, which is most often very thin is automatically quite grey.
@slimnics
@slimnics 2 года назад
how to understand gray?
@miric6224
@miric6224 Год назад
Hello: been taken by Nerdrum since I started to paint and discovered him over 10yrs ago. I started painting after I retired, in my 60s. You reinforced/confirmed many things i accepted. But I it would halp us listeners had you repeated audience questions. Thank you for being generous with your journey, lessons learned, well presented lecture. Granny me
@dustinneece
@dustinneece Год назад
Hi Miri, Sorry about the volume. The video wasn't initially intended for youtube which is why the audio isn't perfect. In the future I will be sure to have better audio. Thanks for your kind words and feedback.
@ShopClosingcom
@ShopClosingcom 6 лет назад
Dustin, you are not just a painter young man, you are a great philosopher as well, and thus why this video has so many views, and has touched so many people.
@MDEBonzes
@MDEBonzes 7 лет назад
Thank you, so very much for this video! I thoroughly enjoyed the info enclosed! I am a pastelist, but I dabble in oils, too, and your teaching is sound for all mediums! You've broken down so many walls of traditional ideas, and it is so 'freeing' to the creative process. I came from a colored pencil very tight rendering (actually, my work was photographically acurate, but a pain-in-the but to carry out and very UN-fulfilling!); to loosening up with pastels and paints. I'm 62 and following my own path (as you say Odd did!). I'm creating to please myself without worrying about how others will perceive my work, and yet, I'm always learning, leanring, leaning----you're quite delightful as a teacher, and again, thanks for the demos! Marlene from GA, USA.
@deidrajnay4697
@deidrajnay4697 7 лет назад
I found this lecture very helpful. Unlike the other posts that accuse the Dustin of being egocentric, I actually found him somewhat humble. In his introduction I felt like he shared insight into a rough time of his life and the tenderness he has towards another's work. Sometimes when people have learned a lot, they are eager to tell the world... and that is beautiful!
@robhead22
@robhead22 2 года назад
What a treat!! I’m a huge Odd Nerdrum fan! Great presentation!! Thank you!
@dustinneece
@dustinneece 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@danthomas6587
@danthomas6587 5 лет назад
I'm a watercolor painter but I learned a few things watching this vid. What a genuinely humble artist. Thanks for sharing.
@beautifulnature1814
@beautifulnature1814 7 лет назад
My mentor said, you have to look proparly and then exactly paint what you see. My former teacher said, you paint everything more beautiful then it really is. I realize that painting is a reflection of my inner being. I paint the way I feel in the moment of painting. The art is finished when I feel I am satisfied and happy about it whether the technique is oke or not. Painting to me is not to satisfy the public but to satisfy my own expression.
@UncleTerry
@UncleTerry 6 лет назад
Well said, I agree.
@hazelwray5307
@hazelwray5307 4 года назад
Realist (mentor) Classicist (teacher) Romanticist (you)
@jameshwren
@jameshwren 7 лет назад
I liked your video, very interesting lecture and technique. I ordered a book of Odd's to look into his work. If you record future videos; when audience members ask you questions, a technique that is really great is to repeat their question back to them into your mic, that way you repeat it and everyone hears the question, asking it back puts both people on the same page, and gives you a second to collect your thoughts.
@soularstorm555
@soularstorm555 7 лет назад
Great insight...I was just telling my wife that its hard....it taps into your inner Being and is very draining. I will always be humbled by this creative process. Thanks for sharing.
@jetsonjoe
@jetsonjoe 4 года назад
This was really enjoyable....a bit long but enjoyable. would appreciate more videos on topic of Odd Nerdrum painting process as demo. Thanks for sharing.
@betsypoti2306
@betsypoti2306 7 лет назад
Excellent presentation! Thank you. I've been teaching myself to paint for four years, this info will definitely help me in my journey as an artist. I took two pages of notes. Love I Think your work is awesome.
@ethel2681
@ethel2681 7 лет назад
I don't even paint with oils, I paint with acrylics and I am so pleased I stumbled upon your lecture. I have been glued to it. A lot of your advice relates to acrylics too, thank you for a really inspiring video, you make me want to get my paints out. You are a joy to listen to.
@bio-plasmictoad5311
@bio-plasmictoad5311 6 лет назад
Ethel Try some oil's, I did and haven't looked back. But that's just me you might think differently.
@TheChannelingDiaries
@TheChannelingDiaries 7 лет назад
Smiles, I loved this video, thank you for taking the time and sharing. I felt a lot of truth and passion in your sharing and as a result signed up for your newsletter. Dustin when is your next painting class? Keep up the great work, I know you will and do keep sharing. I know I certainly appreciate it and would love to learn more from you, Cheers!
@quiminlui5991
@quiminlui5991 Год назад
Dustin, I was there in 2005 for two months, it great experience. nice sharing!
@judichristopher4604
@judichristopher4604 7 лет назад
I Love, love, LOVE your enthusiasm.... It is soo nice to SEE and FEEL someone that is so passionate about something they love... "Thank YOU" so much for sharing this... I teach art to children... and I also teach about how to not be bullied... I will use your "Enthusiasm" in MY demonstration tomorrow at NMSU in Carlsbad, New Mexico... (You are Precious... ;)
@dustinneece
@dustinneece 7 лет назад
Thank you Judi! I hope your demonstration at NMSU goes great! Best wishes :-)
@kieron1411
@kieron1411 7 лет назад
thanks for recording and sharing Dustin - great lecture
@icarus7z7
@icarus7z7 7 лет назад
Dustin Neece - *Thank-you....* Good for you that you would help other artist get better. Very inspiring. I knew a painter once who painted with *egg yokes*. Ever do anything like that? Could never go back and talk to'em. He pasted away at an early age. I think he first inspired me in my teens to get better at what I knew how to do best.
@mindchatterart8684
@mindchatterart8684 7 лет назад
Thnk you for this :) I didn't get a chance to go to art school or study art coz my family or society in general consider art as valued path as a profession from where i come from, I graduated as an engineer, but it is so depressing for me no to be doing art, I thought it was because I didn get any formal art education that i find it so difficult and sressful to paint but u made me realize that itz something tht even a great artist wd go thru and not to give up or depressed abt it, thank you. I am meant to be an artist, ain't nobody stopping me.
@Moe-zo4fm
@Moe-zo4fm 7 лет назад
I really learned a great deal, and I enjoyed your passion for art. This was an AWESOME lecture, I loved it!!!!!!
@fundamentalsofpainting2176
@fundamentalsofpainting2176 5 лет назад
Are you concerned with yellowing due to the excessive use of medium in layers? Also, do you paint opaque over a fat/glaze layer? I´m concerned about the paint cracking.
@sharonweeks3508
@sharonweeks3508 7 лет назад
For the beginner this is a little hard to follow, but for those that have been painting for awhile it becomes apparent that, for me, I need to step back, slow down, rethink my limited pallet and try to find a place to paint from life. Middle of the desert does not offer much opportunity to do beautiful gardens and flowers, so I have to depend on photos from others...I just need to learn not to limit my ability to change something...Thank you Dustin for getting me to think...
@katdivenice
@katdivenice 7 лет назад
Thank you for many things about this video, but especially helping me to understand the value of seeing value. I met an artist one time who painted portraits using unrealistic colors. So i asked him, 'when you go to your palette, what made you decide that the guys nose should be ... blue. His answer: when i go to my palette, i am not searching a color, ... i am searching a value I think i get it now.
@CalligraphybyShukri
@CalligraphybyShukri 7 лет назад
Also when Dustin is talking about the plienair painter who works with both hands, he means Dan Nelson . I love his work and the way he teaches. My favorite teacher on RU-vid.
@choo1945
@choo1945 7 лет назад
Thanks very much for your lecture of the 7 Secret Painting Techniques. It was very excellent, and very helpful for me. I've been an amateur painter learning painting at my leisure, and also at the Cultural Center, and wanted to learn more about more advanced landscape paintings on the youtube. Fortunate to find your lecture today. I totally agree with your painting philosophy of 'work from life '. By the way, my elder daughter, Eleanor graduated from RISD majoring Architecture, and also got BA in Fine Arts as well. So I know very well about RISD's superb education and its prestige.
@amber588
@amber588 5 месяцев назад
Great video Dustin, thank you for sharing what you've learnt and what you know. So informative. Seems to be a lot of nasty comments on here - unsure why - you didn't have to share what you know with the world (and then upload this for free); so thank you. Was a joy to listen to this as I painted today, gave me a new fresh perspective on a painting that was frustrating me, lol.
@christinetempleton7657
@christinetempleton7657 5 лет назад
Thanks for so generously sharing this video. So much good information and rich in your experiences.
@skyfrequency615
@skyfrequency615 7 лет назад
thank you so much for all your advice on painting and the practicalities of it. I'ts a shame that some responders here don't get that you're really giving so much information. As you do. Really helpful anyhow.
@leilahartman8426
@leilahartman8426 7 лет назад
Very informative video--- love your paintings! I've been drawn to Nerdrum's works also and the insights you presented are appreciated!
@monicalinville9579
@monicalinville9579 6 лет назад
Totally agree. My experience with teaching art and having a lot of information to impart about a subject, it's sometimes difficult to find words to describe abstract concepts to people, hence some hesitation (that you so harshly criticize) in finding the words. I've also come to try and remember that when I'm critiquing paintings that I see in magazines or here on the internet that the person I'm critiquing has made it in to publication and I'm the one sitting on my couch looking in. It reminds me to stay real and keep things in perspective. This gallery looks like a very nice gallery (based on the other paintings seen displayed) and NEECE is the one that got invited to lecture and we're all just sitting on our couches.
@bzxshor67mpts
@bzxshor67mpts 7 лет назад
nice presentation who sounds like a really nice guy. Have been following Nerdrum for years and love his work Thanks
@sandiortega8375
@sandiortega8375 7 лет назад
Dustin you are an amazing artist. Is there any way you would start teaching on video? Like start teaching on video from the basics. It would be such a joy to learn from you!
@Website-Developer
@Website-Developer 5 лет назад
Amazing to hear someone mention Sean Crosby who I know also. He has taught in a couple of classes that I put together here in Naples Fl. I am so glad to have had this video referred to me by RU-vid. I loved this.
@wilmakerstholt699
@wilmakerstholt699 6 лет назад
Thank you so much i work for 46 years and ritered don' t know what to do starting painting it is a New live and you are so helping it is so exciting miracle thanks
@maartent2047
@maartent2047 7 лет назад
Dear Mr Neece; Using charcoal seems not to bother you with smearing into the paint?. Then how is that achieved? White chalk dissolves but vine charcoal too?
@bright-eyed5830
@bright-eyed5830 7 лет назад
I can't express how much I enjoyed this and how much it's really made me think. The more laid back feel and how open you were with the audience made this much more enjoyable and honestly helped me absorb everything better than if it was a stick-up-your-butt presentation(which I would've clicked out on or fallen asleep). That's just how I am. To each his own but this was Perfect for me. Thank you so much for sharing this. And haters- find something that suits you and get back to your painting. Bye 😘 Dustin- keep being awesome 😜
@coachhousestudiobarry9267
@coachhousestudiobarry9267 6 лет назад
Very valuable information. I learned so much form you. Thanks!
@candymuccioli469
@candymuccioli469 6 лет назад
Thank you Dustin! Very interesting and informative!
@Kenneth_H_Olsen
@Kenneth_H_Olsen 7 лет назад
Great guy. His advice is spot on . I was surprised to see we use the same paint medium : Kremer Leinølfernis . Atleast its the same shape of the bottle. Its a great medium, but I dont mix it with any turpentine.
@valeriehopebennett
@valeriehopebennett 6 лет назад
I LOVED THIS THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WONDERFUL INFORMATION SHARE AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE. IT HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING FUN, EDUCATIONAL EXCHANGE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR DELIVERY, WITH ALL MY HEART I WISH YOU GREAT SUCCESS AND BEST WISHES, AMSTERDAM HOLLAND ENJOYED..PLEASE CONTINUE..
@victoria-mennaperez2230
@victoria-mennaperez2230 7 лет назад
this video from Mr. Neece has been a wonderful source of information. Thank you. But, I think the Tiffen item is a #3. I would appreciate someone following through on this. The one he is holding looks exactly like the #3, comes with the cord.
@reecechan6065
@reecechan6065 7 лет назад
This is undoubtedly inspiring. Really thank you!
@jacqcollin
@jacqcollin 7 лет назад
A great and very generous lecture!
@CalligraphybyShukri
@CalligraphybyShukri 7 лет назад
Great video. Thanks Dustin. I am curious about your opinion regarding developing a niche and then sticking to it. I ask because I notice few abstracts in the back. Are those your works too? And if yes, do you believe just sticking to one style of painting? Thanks in advance 👍🏼
@Ferdouse
@Ferdouse 5 лет назад
Nice video but I do not agree on his point about working from life and working from a photograph (12:21). The notion is that one want's to render the image as close to the photograph as possible and in real-life, it is constantly changing and evolving (speaking about landscapes). However, even with photograph, one does not necessarily want to render the photo as close as possible, the artist might want to add his emotions, feelings and style into his own rendition. This in mind is equally acceptable.
@melodieikeguchi8358
@melodieikeguchi8358 7 лет назад
Dustin, your lecture was very helpful. I admire your work and would love to study under such an amazing artist as Odd. What a great opportunity for you. May I make a suggestion? Questions by the audience are not always heard by the RU-vid listener. If you repeat the question, your internet listeners would be better informed. Just a thought. Thank you for sharing your amazing work and knowledge!!!
@aSyMbolden
@aSyMbolden 7 лет назад
Melodie Ikeguchi maybe he can write them in in the subtitles
@jamaicapagulong4189
@jamaicapagulong4189 7 лет назад
Thank you sir for sharing your knowledge with us....
@ClariceAust
@ClariceAust 7 лет назад
Very inspiring and fascinating lecture. Thank you for sharing it with the world. (I just couldn't hear the questions though, which was a pity.)
@sebastianmelmoth685
@sebastianmelmoth685 4 года назад
The problem I had with Odd Nerdrum is that, while his own paintings are phenomenal - his "disciples" all tend to produce work that looks exactly like his - even in content. You seem to be the exception.
@jetsonjoe
@jetsonjoe 4 года назад
yes...at first...He has a HUGE influence...almost like a mantra spell ....and his process is very comprehensive. I have know two people to study under him...for several years they produced nice work...very acceptable....and slowly they evolved into something of their own...However historically speaking this is consistent with the past Atelier training of young student working under master...for many years...the only way you know how to paint is what you learned...The fact that they studied under the Master gave them credence when it was time for them to leave....if that Master was still valued. Nevertheless...they learned so much about materials, pigments, and the whole process. These are the skills that are only taught at expensive schools in Florence and at private academy....somewhat shorter time and length...some provide degrees for those who want that official document that they studied and achieved a balance of practical and academic...so that they can teach in Universities. However there is still much conflict over skill set training versus pure theory training. Both are important today. You can see the lack of this in painters who are "skilled" but their paintings are kind of lifeless. It is a rare combination of artist and spirit that produces a truly great artist and only after years of production and learning. There is a nice book called the The Nerdrum School or something like that...buy it now...as it is out of print and going up in price...For whatever reason it is cheaper from European book stores than North America...even with shipping...You may be satisfied to just look at it at the library first...lots of okay paintings...but like you said many look like smaller and less skilled versions of his (Odd Nerdrum) work. I would spend the money on one of the books on him...there are a couple with good reproductions...the one in this video...Nerdrum Paintings is well produced. Average now about $300 plus....a lot ....and there are many good digital files online now...large file size is what you want...that I think are better....even if you print off at a print shop...which I have for study and effort to paint a copy. All the best.
@sebastianmelmoth685
@sebastianmelmoth685 4 года назад
@@jetsonjoe Thank you for taking the time to reply. I have a student of Odd's in Asia who attends my life drawing classes. He's a joy to observe. Very skilled, extraordinarily talented. I am more than content to be mediocre (even compared to his students). Nonetheless, I know of extremely talented people who get less enjoyment and have less passion re. painting than I do. That does not annoy, or even make me envious. However, when I see such brilliant people turn to modernism and revert to painting stick figures in a de Kooning background... that is when I become deeply angry and jealous, because I would gladly sell an organ to have even half their talent.
@jetsonjoe
@jetsonjoe 4 года назад
Nonsense. Worst thing an artist can do is expect themselves to be something they are not. Paint, learn and you will grow and develop a way of expressing that is yours. A journal is helpful. You will do many paintings and you will ruin many too. We have all been there. Keep painting and learning.
@sherrierichard2848
@sherrierichard2848 7 лет назад
The artist that paints with both hands (he's right handed) is Dan Nelson. He uses his left to keep from his painting being too tight, because he began as an illustrator.
@ShawNshawN
@ShawNshawN 6 лет назад
Very nice lecture on the painting techniques.
@RobCoghanable
@RobCoghanable 6 лет назад
You tend toward objectivity, a rare view indeed.
@constancepaul8263
@constancepaul8263 7 лет назад
Very Interesting video about Odd and his experience
@entztrix
@entztrix 7 лет назад
hey Dustin great lecture :) Can you explain the ground recipe you use please? Where can you find the right kind of chalk in the US? Is rabbit skin glue involve? Thanks
@dustinneece
@dustinneece 7 лет назад
Christopher, I plan to give a detailed description and demonstration of the ground recipe in an upcoming video. Stay tuned. In the mean time... the basic recipe consists of: Pigment = 1/3 titanium white, 2/3 chalk from champagne (kremer 58000) ... Although Odd uses only the chalk... I add titanium white pigment to boost the brightness of the ground and make it absorb a bit less light as the chalk is absorbent and non-reflective. Oil = I use kremer refined linseed oil (73300) ... Odd has used several different oils as far as i know... anywhere from boiled linseed oil to cold pressed. A tinting color is also added, siccative may also be used in moderation. More info and recipes on using chalk to make "putty" (odd's basic ground foundation) can be found here: www.tadspurgeon.com A phenomenal resource. Best of luck.
@entztrix
@entztrix 7 лет назад
thank you so much Dustin
@deannamottershead4309
@deannamottershead4309 7 лет назад
Vincent desidario
@OnlineCollegeofArtandDesign
@OnlineCollegeofArtandDesign 5 лет назад
great attention to detail
@hanabizhani5354
@hanabizhani5354 7 лет назад
Thanks for impressive advice. I just wanted to know the sanding should be focused to which area mostly? I mean when you want to sand an object of the painting, are you sand all over it or just some areas? thanks
@dustinneece
@dustinneece 7 лет назад
Sanding represents two basics effects: 1. The reduction of impasto to a smoother surface 2. The blending of two or more layers together in an unpredictable and textural way. Both of these also prepare the surface of the painting to receive the next layer of paint in a better way i.e. a stronger bond of paint layers. Therefore, it can be used anywhere at anytime to the degree and taste of the artist. The technique must be played and experimented with for a time to be master, just like any other painting tool. Play and experiment, play and experiment, see the result, and adjust. And never be afraid to destroy something you made to take it to the next level. You did it once, you can do it again. Happy painting :-)
@gownvi
@gownvi 7 лет назад
Hana Bizhani i
@hanabizhani5354
@hanabizhani5354 7 лет назад
??
@hanabizhani5354
@hanabizhani5354 7 лет назад
thanks dustin
@karindogs628
@karindogs628 7 лет назад
Hi Dustin. Could you please tell me how i can prepare my own fabric for a canvas ? Appreciate it.
@doctorusgromulus6045
@doctorusgromulus6045 7 лет назад
Very beautiful work, thank you
@realsmoothieone
@realsmoothieone 7 лет назад
Thanks for an enjoyable lecture ....
@hughemrich9466
@hughemrich9466 7 лет назад
Dustin....I find it interesting to read the comments.....they run the hammett...I am 77, have worked only in watercolor for at least 50 years...sometimes I feel like I am getting close to what I want...and there are always a few paintings that you wonder how in the world you got there......I have never had any formal training, just lots of spoiled paper, my wife of 57 years and I live in a rather secluded vally and are loners..I have always been one to ask why...I took things apart, to understand.....I paint for myself so I am the only one I have to listen to.from the comments it seems many mised your principals .....I thought you did a very good job on something so difficult.....when you move from just painting to teaching you are in a new world....now you have people telling you what they think...it is a mixed bag.......most people who want what you seem to want have to face a good deal of solitude ......do not stop listening to your heart.
@ma_iii
@ma_iii 4 года назад
thanks alot very very rewarding session
@christophermcelhinney1365
@christophermcelhinney1365 7 лет назад
THANKS for this interesting talk
@megindog6484
@megindog6484 7 лет назад
I fail to see why a painting carried out using a photograph as a reference, can not be changed from the photograph image. At no time are you controled by the actual Photograph image not to change it on the canvas. The only issue I would find is distortion from the camera lens onto the photograph image. In plein air painting/drawing the view is changing with the light every minute of the day.
@goldstar9174
@goldstar9174 6 лет назад
Wow! Shut up! Ask questions at the end.
@tashiglt4426
@tashiglt4426 7 лет назад
Excellent! Thank you so much!
@lostinthefaq
@lostinthefaq 2 года назад
Sean Cheetam uses a dirty palette for everything, a light pile and a dark one of colors. I think is the most intelligent and efficent way to paint.
@bonnierice4575
@bonnierice4575 7 лет назад
Robert Moore? He teaches putting a bit of color in all the other colors. And he paints with both hands.
@gavinreid5387
@gavinreid5387 4 года назад
Mother colour?
@lonnieandtashamcfarland8246
@lonnieandtashamcfarland8246 7 лет назад
Great talk Dustin. Could you be more specific on Odd's palette? (assuming it is usually the same) Which black, red, yellow and white does he use?
@LGsingz
@LGsingz 4 года назад
Titanium White ans chinese vermillon from sennelier. Mars yellow and mars black from old holland. He also uses deep ochre and brilliant yellow from old holland.
@lonnieandtashamcfarland8246
@lonnieandtashamcfarland8246 4 года назад
@@LGsingz Thank you!
@dianer8881
@dianer8881 4 года назад
Please include the 7 tips in your video description. Thanks
@micahmcclung5586
@micahmcclung5586 4 года назад
he talks about the dangers of sanding cadmiums.. what about those cobalt pigments? they have high toxicity as well..dangerous when atomized or no?
@dustinneece
@dustinneece Год назад
As far as I understand it (based on talking with someone at Kremer Pigments) Cobald doesn't get lodged in the body like cadmium colors. It has to do with the shape of the molecule. That being said, you can always play it safe by not using Cobalt either. I always recommend using safety practices if you are going to sand your painting in any way. This is something you will have to research and judge what you are comfortable with.
@jagdishmoktan2469
@jagdishmoktan2469 6 лет назад
What kind of solvents does odd nerdrum use. ? And for glazing ? Is it true he uses sun thickened linseed and chalk for the impastos .?
@abderrassoulmney8420
@abderrassoulmney8420 7 лет назад
work and work and work , that's all what about, no secret but understand the technique of the old masters and there mediums
@Peepholecircus
@Peepholecircus 6 лет назад
Awesome, thanks : )
@silvahovhannesian4762
@silvahovhannesian4762 3 года назад
Thank you!
@dustinneece
@dustinneece 3 года назад
You're welcome!
@klienart
@klienart 6 лет назад
Great info, thanks!
@margaretbutters6181
@margaretbutters6181 7 лет назад
I enjoyed your talks but the audience should but out we do not want to hear them but only you - thankyou
@bruce9662
@bruce9662 7 лет назад
you stapled the canvas on the sides ? That went out in the 60's.... staple on the back so there is enough canvas to re-stretch or restore it; stretcher's can warp in future.
@gordmacdonald9711
@gordmacdonald9711 7 лет назад
Thank you for the talk. I have a question.... When you say "drier" , are you using an alkyd or a siccative like cobalt ? How much of the drier do you use and when. In each paint nut, in the medium, in the oiling in process....? Thanks. BTW: Sanding a siccative would be extremely dangerous, I would think.
@dustinneece
@dustinneece 7 лет назад
I use a linseed oil from Kremer that Odd was using while I studied with him. It is called Linseed Oil Varnish, Kremer 73100. I mix it 50/50 with turpentine and nothing else. This is what Odd uses. Although I know he has also used a refined linseed oil (without drier) 50/50 with turpentine as well. The paint itself has no drier in it. Aside from the Titanium white by Sennelier... which natively contains a drier, although they don't say what kind.... This is the white Odd uses, and I trust it as well. Best of luck.
@gordmacdonald9711
@gordmacdonald9711 7 лет назад
Thanks. I know he has used various mediums over the years. I was in contact with a woman who gave me a bottle of his medium she got from him. It had alkyd in it and linseed oil and turp. I believe he has abandoned alkyd.
@ethuynh5700
@ethuynh5700 6 лет назад
Hi can you please tell me where to get Michael Harding paint in Australia ? I want to make my own using your formula. Not the pre made paint
@yutu49
@yutu49 3 года назад
Order on line.
@sniperwipers
@sniperwipers 7 лет назад
You say @42:10 Lamp black is 'brown' warmer and ivory is 'blue' colder yet on the searches i have is the other way around ie lamp black is 'blue' and ivory is 'brown'.
@pw6titanium
@pw6titanium 7 лет назад
They differ from manufacturer to manufacturer
@johnnyblaze373
@johnnyblaze373 2 года назад
Does anyone know of the 'lens' Dustin talks about to help with values? I remember hearing about it in this video but cant find the exact segment
@dustinneece
@dustinneece 2 года назад
Hey Johnny, it’s the Tiffen Black and White viewing filter #1, an excellent tool
@dagoelius
@dagoelius 7 лет назад
So after all that what are the 7 secrets?
@DrachenPrime
@DrachenPrime 7 лет назад
Lol, did you watch it? Work with life, use a limited pallet, learn to destroy and rebuild, compare your painting...
@zahria
@zahria 7 лет назад
Well - i watched it and thought the same. The guy is so akward with all his Aaah en Euuu , its impossible to follow.
@carolholland1424
@carolholland1424 7 лет назад
Almost fell asleep between the 54th Aaah & the 89th euuu, mnnn or whatever. Boring!
@naedolor
@naedolor 7 лет назад
Well I only know two rules: 1. You don't talk about paint club. 2. You don't talk about paint club.
@kayem3824
@kayem3824 7 лет назад
The secret is: Do something else, anything other than painting.
@theeaselrider4032
@theeaselrider4032 7 лет назад
Thank you. I enjoyed that. As someone only recently out of art school, your first remarks about coming from a nice safe environment and then being chucked out into the world - " now what!", is how many people feel. You made some excellent points. Some of which I knew, but had forgotten. The whole idea of working from life, so as to avoid painting becoming a linear process with a set finishing point, I think is the most important ( to me at least ). I found it very helpful. And your public speaking is just fine. I've had lectures by older & very knowledgable university professors that spoke with perfect diction & pace, but still made me want to pull my eyeballs out with a spoon because of the complete lack of engagement with the audience. If you can hold their attention, you can just relax and be yourself.
@justdan913
@justdan913 5 лет назад
Not to be a dick but going off the questions asked in the room, I’m not quite sure most people in there can grasps Odd’s process and theories correctly lol but I’d pay quite a bit to see this lecture in person that’s for damn sure!
@joanwilson4491
@joanwilson4491 Год назад
I gotta think you know this already but there are palette scraping knives built for serious scraping and safe for most all canvas as long as you are not foolish on your approach.
@PaulHirsh
@PaulHirsh 7 лет назад
I would like to see this information in a blog or something. Too much info is lost through inaudible questions, so the answers mean nothing.
@TheBambie86
@TheBambie86 Год назад
The 3 colors is that like the ZORN Palette ?
@dustinneece
@dustinneece Год назад
Yes, you can use the Zorn palette exactly as a way to get started. I have experimented with different combinations of colors to create limited palettes over the years, so don't feel like you have to be restricted to just the Zorn palette.
@ColleenM61
@ColleenM61 7 лет назад
Brilliant
@jbmurdock5264
@jbmurdock5264 7 лет назад
Dustin, that's a great lecture. But why build up something with impasto that you have to scrape off? That doesn't make sense, esp. with impasto rather than using a heavily textured pure oil ground like Schmid and Swatland do. Much easier to paint thin, achieve value and color, then put the gorgeous heavy strokes on top of the wonderful thin darks. I know N. Fechin worked with heavy paint in layers, undeniable. You said it was a "Pain in the Ass." I agree, but why not use a technique that alleviates that?
@michael13419
@michael13419 2 года назад
It was my understanding that he only scrapes down an impasto area if he is unhappy with it. I don’t think he is intentionally building up an impasto with the intent of scraping or sanding it, but that he removes impasto when the results aren’t what he wanted. TLDR: scraping/sanding is just his eraser
@SisterMaji
@SisterMaji 6 лет назад
Odd wow! suggestion, hold q&a till the end, mostly. constant choppy lacked coherence
@ronpatton5172
@ronpatton5172 6 лет назад
What's a good canvas to paint on?
@StoneDigital
@StoneDigital 7 лет назад
Thank you 😊
@smatutina
@smatutina 7 лет назад
how can I find the viewer for values black and white?
@Tony-InLosAngeles
@Tony-InLosAngeles 7 лет назад
omg you are on the internet use it, start here I think this is it after 43 mins I stopped watching it was lunch anyways and my soul hurt www.amazon.com/Tiffen-Black-White-Viewing-Filter/dp/B00009UTCC www.google.com/search?q=Black+%26+White+Viewing+Filter&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr8am5yeHVAhXHhVQKHcNADZ0Q_AUICigB&biw=1164&bih=594
@andrewzanas9387
@andrewzanas9387 7 лет назад
Search part numbers "Tiffen # BWVF" and "Tiffen #1 BWVF".
@abstractbybrian
@abstractbybrian 5 лет назад
B&W: take a photo with your phone and edit it to black and white.
@emasolie4135
@emasolie4135 3 года назад
I had never heard of Odd Nerdrum, but I searched his work and found most of it to be depressing.
@michael13419
@michael13419 2 года назад
Hah! I am in the same camp. Nerdrum’s paintings are masterful renderings of depressing scenes. I can’t say I would ever want one in my home, but I would love to see one in person.
@ShopClosingcom
@ShopClosingcom 6 лет назад
one hour and 44 minutes, well, guess i will have to let it play in the background while i play Unchartered 4, then perhaps, today, I will try a new painting......
@jennyp9091
@jennyp9091 7 лет назад
Which Odd Nerdrum Book is that?
@cherylsmith-bell6509
@cherylsmith-bell6509 5 лет назад
Your audio it to low for old half deaf people like me, and you have no CC Hate missing anything, great info!
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