What do you mean you wouldn't give it a second look. When I see a Mercedes I look at it for a few days, if possible. Weistec definitely chose the best brand to tune.
Troy dejesu The only reasons I would is because I like to consider myself a car enthusiast and i've also lived a good portion of my life being driven around in a multitude of Mercedes.
I loved that this showed up on my recommended again. I forgot that I used to watch this years ago hoping some day I could afford an E63. Now I'm on my 4th AMG.
@@mosli770 as a E63 owner i can 💯 confirm it does NOT have a torque converter! And if you dont believe me then here's what Mercedes themselves have to say on the matter on their site: "Mercedes-AMG ’s seven or nine-speed gearbox is an automatic unit, but not one with a torque converter, the speedshift MCT transmission from AMG is not a dual-clutch unit either, the Speedshift MCT unit is a multi-clutch automatic gearbox. Instead of a torque converter, like conventional automatics, it possesses a “clutch pack,” which includes multiple clutches placed together and controlled separately. It is easily differentiated from dual-clutch automatics because it has a single input shaft. It is currently available in seven-speed and nine-speed versions, these multi-clutch transmissions are usually operated in heavy-duty applications, where an optimal response is required, along with the need to handle a bundle of torque. It is important not to confuse multi-clutch gearboxes with multi-plate clutches. The latter term refers to the clutch itself, which can be engaged in a manual gearbox. Multi-clutch transmission are used by various racing cars, but also in heavy machinery. The advantage of this technical solution is using less space for something that can handle more torque and power, all with minimum slip. Reaction time is also an important characteristic, which is significantly improved when compared to a torque converter. Motorcycles are known for their use of multi-plate clutches for this particular reason. The torque and power requirements cannot be met with a conventional clutch, because it would take up too much space, when several plates that are smaller form an efficient package. The idea was to provide the fastest response time possible with the largest torque capability. A regular twin-clutch unit could not handle the level of torque developed by Mercedes-AMG’s V8 units, so this solution had to be designed to obtain maximum performance. The innovative component introduced by Mercedes-AMG’s Speedshift MCT-7 unit was a “wet start-off clutch,” which operated in a sump to aid cooling and longevity. The component has a low rotational inertia that allows quick response times, which cannot be matched by liquid-filled torque converters. MCT stands for Multi-Clutch Technology, and those clutches are the sole executors of gear changes. In the Manual mode, the gearbox managed to shift gears in just 100 milliseconds. That is incredibly fast, but the unit also had a comfort mode for day-to-day driving, as well as two sport modes. The AMG Speedshift MCT 7 unit is even lighter than the AMG Speedshift 7G-Tronic unit, which is employed in other products of this division. The MCT unit weighs 80 kilograms, and it can operate at engine speeds of up to 7,200 rpm. Only the high-performance vehicles from the AMG line have been fitted with this type of transmission."
@@Andy_T79 anyways, i OWN 2 E63 AMG both W212 modell, both with the M157 both Prefacelift and both with the 7G MCT Speedshift. My friend upgraded the clutch of his prefacelift E63 AMG with the M157. The gearbox have a wet clutch system und behind this also a converter.
🤦♂️ as an engineer of 25yrs i do all the maintenance on my E63 and S55 and I can assure you there is no torque converter under the MCT E63... unless it's invisible when i installed my long tube headers.. Go and call mercedes and try ordering the part and see what happens... they'll laugh down the phone as it simply doesn't exist! Also the whole point of a MCT unit is that it doesn't need a torque converter!
as I said in the video, the problems with the car had nothing to do with any of the work Weistec did. Buying their tuning package does not mean you lose air con and paddles; a blown module that was untouched since it left for the factory failed, and took all those systems with it. It was replaced under warranty the next day and the car is working fine now.
the car was working fine at the time they handed it over. The module went out 5 minutes after I left weistec, taking all those systems with it. Once they replaced that module the next day (under warranty), everything worked fine again.
My friend I grew up with had a 92 Grand Marquis that sounded EXACTLY like this car. The lower part of the cat/catback piping was rusted off, and I think the exhaust header was held on by 5 or 6 bolts...lol didn't have 850 hp though.
I recently drove a 2014 E63 sport package...HOLY CRAP!! What a rocket. I have a new mistress in my life and she's a noisy, tire smokin monster that eats M5s for lunch (I drove BOTH that same Saturday afternoon, and the AMG is a much nicer car all around than the M5 -with the performance pkg in my opinion). I can't even fathom what an upgrade to that car would feel like. If I had $120K, I'd own one.
Jack Brand Hi Jack, Yes, good for me. I LOVED driving this car. I understand why grown men lust after carbon fiber, hand tuned engines, and leather seats.
Been a hot rodder for 55 years. Have a CL 65 now I made it up to 158MPH on the way to vegas in a Ferrari 30 years ago - did not take it up to 200 cuz too much traffic only did it one time. Mostly you are limited to 120 MPH or so - every now and then on the freeway. WHERE IT IS AT is stop light to stop light. Wheel stands and Burning rubber is for chumps = all you do is lower your ET when you wheel stand or burn rubber. My CL knocks the snot out of every Mustang in the area same for anything chevy has.
Weistec has the kind of vision and ambition that is rare in racing today. It is not about throwing something on your car to make it go faster, but a thoughtful, carefully engineered technology. This car will command every nerve ending to respond as your body is startled into it's seat. It moves so confidently down the track (even with three passengers) and looks so good, it seems incredible that it's only an E Class. It's no wonder they have the world's fastest and quickest AMG!
Renntech's founder, Hartmut Feyhl, only came over to the United States for one reason: to hand build AMG Hammers here. It doesn't get much more German than that. Poor example, even though you do make a valid point.
wow this is literally right next to my house on the 241 at Oso and Antonio in Rancho Santa Margarita. The 241 is literally like the Autobahn, people fucking fly on that shit.
I'm working on getting the 2012 E550 with the new engine standard Twin Turbo I can't afford the AMG..lol)....after watching this video I think I need to move a little faster to getting my Twin Turbos!!! I should have never clicked on this video!!!! DAMN THAT CAR!!!
Now that my raging boner is gone....who the hell CAN'T get 500whp from a ls7? That's a complete lie. I love AMG but don't try to lie to hype it up. It's already good enough to spend money you don't need to XD
FRonTLinES10064 can't find any numbers but to be honest I'd stick with the supercharged setup. That gunfire exhaust sound with the supercharger whine is 50% of why I love this car so much
FRonTLinES10064 not surprising though since cars in UAE are all about power and straight line performance. I'm sure the twin turbo setup is more efficient. I'm just surprised Brabus hasn't done much for the SLR. They make 900 hp S classes these days
Definitely. The Corvette ZR1 is supercharged yes, but is making 640bhp from a 6.2 litre engine. Besides, horsepower is all well and good but torque is important and too often forgotten. The V10 M5, great car, but had 507bhp and 268lb ft of torque. The E55 AMG of the time made "only" 469bhp but *520lb ft* of torque and was quicker (in a straight line anyway) than an M5.
I drove a 2007 e63 and that was the first generation and man that thing was effortless.. like you are pulling away from people at 2000rpm while they are racing away at 5000rpm lol
numbers don't matter. If you're buying an 800 hp or whatever car, every last tenth is irrelevant, unless you're buying it to be a pure drag car, which approximately no one does. All that matters is whether or not it makes you happy when you drive it. And that's what I'm here to test.
both the A/C and all controls on the steering wheel, including the paddle shifters, stopped functioning when that one module went out. The trans itself worked fine, the electronic paddle shifters just wouldn't talk to it. They replaced the one electronic part for about $50 under warranty and it was fixed.
the LS7 is a terrible candidate for twin turbos. The cylinder walls are too thin and can crack from boost. The 6.2L LS engines don't have that problem, which is why the Venom GT uses a Stroked LSX block not an LS7.
This is a true measurement of power,its the amount of power that reaches the rear wheels after drivetrain losses. A 505hp Z06 is 505 engine hp,at the wheels it may be only a bit over 400 rwhp (rear wheel horse power) A dyno is used to measure rwhp or awhp (all wheel horse power) in an all wheel drive car.
myusernames1967 It has nothing to do with truth. It's just a method of measuring power. And since they don't tell us what correction standard they use, we know exactly nothing about how it compares to stock. If you want a good comparison, use the SAE J1349 standard. Then you know what the engine puts out, compared to just about any car out there, except for Volvo, as they use another standard. If you make 850hp by the J507 standard compared to SAE J1349, you're only making 807.5ish hp SAE J1349. Unfortunately, a lot of tuners use the J507 correction standard, and I don't believe anyone who can't produce a J1349 document. The only two Merc tuners I know of who do, is Brabus adn Kleemann.
LongrunQBJK The SAE J1349 Certified Power is not a document. the SAE J1349 Certified Power is a standerd specifying how a manufacture should test the power and torque of an engine. Dyno rooms are different, so to make sure that things are equal, SAE International has developed a standard for what the air density (Elevation), barometric pressure, temp and other variables must be, and corrected for if not so. If for example, the temperature of a dyno room and the altitude is different than what is specified in the J1349 standard, the "raw" number of the dyno pull must then be corrected accordingly. The document I'm talking about, is simply a dynosheet verifying that the test was done in accordance with SAE J1349 Certified Power guidelines. Why I'm bringing this up, is because if what is known as the J507 Land And Sea correction standard is used, the hp number the engine puts out, will be about 5-6% higher than if corrected by the J1349 standard. I can't remember the correction factors off the top of my head, but I remember that the temperature for a J1349 test should be corrected for 70 degrees F and the J507 only for 60 degrees F. In other words, the J1349 is more conservative than the J507. Some dyno shops even just use random correction factors, which basically makes the measured power number completely useless. If you want to know more about the J1349 Certified Power and other similar standards, read this. www.sae.org/certifiedpower/details.htm
7 litres this is a 5 twin turbo so it's more efficient less heavy not as smooth not as nice more maintainence in country's like the uk and Europe it's almost impossible to find parts for gm in the uk without a week wait
''Amgs are just how people get to work''... you see this is a huge problem ,in europe it is a crime (not literally) to use a car like that as a daily.You use an E200 not an amg.A guy online told me that USA car market doesnt have a single car less than 2500 cc,here most cars are around 1400cc.And yet some people wonder why petrol is running out faster that it should or why is there so much pollution,because 'merica
***** There are cars that have under 2500cc engines in the US. Most of the manufacturers do offer the smaller engines, but typically they're on the lowly spec'd or bottom end of the range.
Aki Kurose I was speaking with someone from the US about cars and I told him that the best car I 've driven is a C250 Coupe,which is 1.8 litre turbo (its not fast but definitely not slow) and he said that was lame and only C350 and above is fast enough and I was like ''ok whatever''.
***** The idea that there aren't cars with engines smaller than 2500cc simply isn't true, in fact, far from it. There are plenty of cars even in the sub 1600cc range.
@@ElCeeKaa your "legal" work enshrines you in the hell you live, some of us fly on magic carpets to work, or close our eyes every single time we cross the street. WAKE THE FUCK UP!
After hearing a mean e63 pass me on the hwy a day after a Porshe GT3 launched from a green light I am so thankful for the wide range of engine and exhaust designs. Grumbling a and screams are both great engine notes
So the air conditioning flaw was Mercedes's fault, nothing to do with the tuning, right? Funny how it stopped working right after they got it out of the shop. Could be coincidental of course, but just sayin...
If you watched the entire video he says at the end sometimes this stuff happens during tuning. Then they pulled engine codes. Turned out to be a bad CANBUS sensor, a known problem with this series of Mercedes.
Merc and BMW build some of the strongest engines to date. It's the rest of the car that fails first. Transmission was the first thing to go out on my 5er.
THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT MOD for the NEW all-wheel-drive version of this car. This car would be amazing with just a bit more traction (not as fun but...)
Pardon_M3 I know and I agree. He clearly used the parameter "stock" though, so your objection has no relevance. LS7's are capable of amazing hp and tq. That's not in question.
xebek Why would any tuner bring up what a stock engine makes at the wheels compared to a car with 15K+ into it? I honestly don't have the time to go back and watch it again
Pardon_M3 He wasn't comparing stock to tuned. He was comparing stock to stock, as in starting platforms. Ultimately, the LS7 has incredible tuning potential as well and his statement is a little misleading as a result. However, he was technically correct.
Awesome, thank you mate for a great review of the car mate. I looked at one today and will be driving it tomorrow. Will be a change coming from a Porsche 911 997 C4 and a Bentley Flying Spur 2007 but this fits the need based on your review. Thanks again mate.
just compared some prices => about 3.88 dollar per gallon (+/-) in California for regular gas :-) ( if the internet is correct ) and about 1.66 euros per liter x ( 3.785 liters in 1 gallon ) = 6.2831 euros per gallon => 6.28 x 1.36 (euro/dollar) = 8.54 dollars per gallon that we pay in Belgium (europe) ;-( taxes on fuel in US is about 12 to 13 % ( according to statistics ) taxes in Belgium (europe) is about 60 to 62 % ( from what i can find ) (don't know if it's correct but that's what i can find on the internet ) ps: but i do know we do have cheaper medical care, but even so i rather be healthy so don't wan't to see any benefit there ;-) ( hope i'll never need it ;-)
HD-Sig True, in CA we have the worst taxes (outside of NYC) than anywhere else in the country. Outside of the US, our gas prices are a joke. Germany is like $12 a gallon. Their taxes are higher too but they have social medicine and much better road maintenance. (Oh, wait, we have socialized medicine...Thanks Pres Obama).
Please dont we have huge import taxes on cars in Denmark so if u want to buy a mercedes E63 amg (585 bhp) it will cost you around 430.000$ and thats without the tune to 715 bhp
I thought Mercedes had sorted most of it's reliability issues in recent years - but the aircon not working, the manual selector not working - seems that it's business as usual for Germany's most overrated brand.
***** That makes no sense at all. All vehicle alternators use voltage regulators, and an alternators maximum output as well as being rectified then regulated is connected to how fast the engine is turning, not how much power the engine is putting out - so it makes absolutely no difference if the car is tuned or not. I guess if the car had been tuned to increase the redline to way above the factory limiter it could overload the regulator, but that would do a lot more than just make some of the electronics stop working.