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I don't think Vernestra tortured Qimir, I think those scars are from a fight they had after Qimir turned to the dark side, and Vernestra thought he was dead until he sensed him in this episode.
Totally agree, and yesterdays episode he states the same. WHIP = TORTURE? small minded thinking and funny he put more emphasis on it tonight, after I commented about it being attack scars
This makes the most sense. The writers like making direct comparisons to lore we already know, and it seems like a parallel to the outcome of the battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin right after his turn to the dark side. Obi-Wan "scarred" Vader in self-defense, reluctantly left him for dead, but was later surprised to learn he was still alive.
THANK YOU!!! This is why I take very few of these angry tirades seriously from "fans" now. They complain over the most minute things that aren't even an issue. Owen and Solo have referenced *hell*, but it's such an issue now?
@@alexanderthegreat5649 Exactly. There are countless cultures throughout the Galaxy Far, Far Away and probably countless cultures that have concepts of hell to the point where the idea has spread as a metaphor for many, the way it is for us.
Although Han Solo did refer to HELL in ESB, Uncle Owen first referred to HELL in ANH when he was talking to Aunt Beru about what would happen if Luke didn't have the droids out and working soon ".......or there will be HELL to pay".
Qimir uses the force to fly. the same way he floated down like a vampire during his "Day" entrance. Thats how he was able to get into the Witches strong hold with out the use of the elevator.
Can we all agree that Basil is a little s**t? xD First he completely abandons everyone while tracking May in the forest, then offers 0 help during the fight and just leaves. Then proceeds to sabotage everything the jedi are doing. Get this little gremlin away form everyone xD
I don't feel like Qimir's actually trained by the Sith and is most likely unassociated w/ Plagieus. His actions feel more akin to General Grevious in that he relies on the element of surprise, fear, and some form of deception (for Grevious, it's just the fact he wields 4 lightsabers). When Qimir fought the jedi squad, he relied on his cortosis helmet to short circuit and confuse some of his opponents and then defeated Jecki w/ the reveal of the 2nd blade. When he was out of tricks, Sol confidently slammed him twice I could be horribly discounting Sol but it rly feels like Qimir's inferiority to Sol is is supposed to suggest this. He may have called himself sith bcuz he equated using the dark side as being a sith and felt he could adopt the title because he assumed all the sith were long dead. In comparison, other sith we've seen like Maul and Dooku are incredibly composed and adept duelists gaining the upperhand on every jedi except Anakin in rots. In most cases, Sith usually have the upperhand in duels only to lose it because of carelessness like how Kenobi usually wins and how Ahsoka defeated Maul. Although an alternative is that Sol is incredibly strong and I shouldn't discount his strength
Makes sense. I think Qimir is the canonization of Venamis, but I don't think we will hear his name because they've established in Canon only 2 siths can be lords, everyone else has been an assassin like Ventress or Savage or an inquisitor but not given a sith name. I feel like this makes his words "I don't have a name, but a Jedi like you may call me sith" less vague, and an almost literal explanation of what he is. Can't help but think his mouth and teeth on his helmet are meant to symbolize something, and I feel like they look Venamis and a friend of mine pointed out that it almost looks like Venom himself in his opinion. It's probably horribly wrong, but it just makes sense to me.
@@jacobmerritt2518well wasn't it the whole point that Venamis was breaking the rule of two by being Tenebrous' apprentice at the same time as Plagueis? Besides the rule of two hasn't really ever been followed in canon or in legends.
@@elpenguinoofmexico1388 you forgetting the fact he force pushed all the jedi away? And killed majority of them. On top of invading their minds with visions. He didn’t look phased when seeing the force choke/the corruption of the kyber crystal or when Sol was talking about how the Mae/Osha were created through the force and talks about the way of the sith with Mae multiple times. He’s either partially trained by the sith (an current or old sith acolyte or apprentice) or went through extensive training with Vernestra and him embracing the darkside has made him much stronger but wouldn’t explain his other capabilities. E.g mind corruption/the ability to fly / levitate
I always thought the "See you in Hell" line from Empire was funny. I just imagined the reaction of the other dude. "Huh? What did I do to deserve Hell???"
Isn't it inconsistent for it to be believed Sol committed all 4 murders? He was on Coruscant teaching younglings when Indara was killed and plenty of Jedi had their eyes on him as Torbin was killed.
Sure, and that question might get raised at some point. The story isn’t over. But if the senate was also happy to accept the face value lie as an excuse not to have to dig too deeply, that’s also something that can work.
Was it ever stated that Qimir was a child when he got those scars? We don’t know what happened in the events he got those scars. It’s an assumption it was torture. He could have done something to deserve it. He did just recently kill a bunch of innocent Jedi.
Agree. Way more likely it was self defense or an accident than torture. And the way the writing tends to go these days, Qimir misinterpreted something that fueled some immature anger and doomed him for life.
Why always assuming that Qimir's scars are from whip torture and not just a battle? That's like looking at Vader and assuming that Anakin was drawn and quartered by Kenobi.
It may be that they assume so because a lot of this series it showing that the Jedi aren't really the good guys. I agree that it's likely just a combat wound but it does fit the overall theme of the series.
Yeah, but he wasn't exactly a jedi, i mean he wasn't following all the rules... He was emotional, attached and even love the kid as a father, so a bit of the dark side was on him.
What I love about your channel is that you're not judgemental, you just break down facts and let people enjoy without fear of listening to more hatred towards these big shows that have received so much attention lately. This is a haven for us nerds to just have a good time when consuming fantasy/sci-fi. Kudos, sir.
I didn't notice the first time I watched, but Sol used Trakata. He turned his saber off right before it hit Qimir's helmet, then he reignited it and slashed his saber in half.
@bradleyduke4503 Jedi see it as dishonorable, while Sith see it as cowardly. In this instance though I don't think he had much choice as the alternative was bonking Qimir on the head and losing access to his saber in a crucial moment and leaving Qinir with 2.
One of the most amazing things in the fight scene between Sol and Qimir was the force cancelation that Sol performed. I had to rewind that a couple of times.
One detail I haven’t seen anyone mention: when Sol disarms that shorter lightsaber from Qimir, Qimir goes to force pull it back to his hand but Sol seems to “cut” the force pull with his lightsaber
Just a wild speculation, but what if they're toying with the idea that Darth Sidious has been cloning himself longer than we thought, or maybe he is older than we imagined. When he was fighting Mace Windu, he looked like had aged like 200 years. We'll see.
I never thought about it that way, maybe you're onto something there. Instead of Sidious becoming disfigured by Mace Windu reflecting the force lightning back at him, what if that was his true appearance and it just deactivated some form of "force disguise" thing he had going on? Then he was like, no need to hide it any more. It's a fun fan theory anyway.
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The blocks in the water look to be more of an erosion barrier than ruins. You them a lot in parts of the East Coast of the US protecting the inhabited coasts from further erosion.
Hel - if Skol and Hati made it then Hel, being a cold place where snowballs have more of a chance than we would think these days, is a perfect place to find a Tauntaun
I’d love to be a Jedi but he’s 100% right. 😂 you can do what the Jedi do while also having emotions. And cutting that off will lead some to the dark side or becoming a grey Jedi.
Luke Skywalker i believe in Legends was Jedi who believed in emotions. Maybe not decisions based in emotions but compassion and such are still emotions
It seems we are getting more into the flaws of Jedi. We have seen Masters hint at letting go of attachments (emotions?) to be in control of one self. I think what is shown is the more we believe in what we do, the less likely we will have "control" in our actions.
Those "columns" are an ancient lava flow; in this case, basalt, that slowly cooled as an undisturbed mass. The geometric columns occur as the rock cools and solidifies slowly and are eventually exposed to the elements when softer rocks around them are eroded away. The columns on the ground are the upper sections of the formation that tumbled away from the rest due to erosion or earth movement. The geometric surface they were walking on are columns whose tops are all that is exposed. There are a few such formations along the coast of the British isles and similar ones can be found in Yellowstone in Wyoming, Devil's Postpile in North Eastern California and even in San Diego County, made out of another volcanic rock.
15:10 Occam’s razor. If it *is* Ian’s voice, it could have just been a nod as a little cameo. It *could* be a relative to Palpatine. I think the former is more likely, but I really don’t think it’s anything to dig too deep into
A theory I had over the weekend: Tenebrous trained Qimir. Plagueis had no knowledge of this but somehow found out. That is why he was spying on them, lurking in the shadows.
Those aren't necessarily carved blocks on the mystery planet. Rocks often form large crystals or fracture along planes giving the illusion of being shaped or carved. See, for instance, the Devil's Postpile.
what if qimir is darth venamis, the illegitimate sith apprentice tenebrous trained parallel to plagueis in violation of the rule of two? tenebrous kind of manipulated them to kill each other and plagueis did end up killing him in bal´demnic, and found out that venamis was looking for an apprentice before that
I stand by that Sol did do the right thing with the information he had available to him at the time. Mae literally told him they were going to be sacrificed, why would he not think he did the right thing?
How would anakins lightsaber stay blue as he slaughtered a whole tribe of tusken raiders, or killing younglings, or battling obi wan. Hasn't it always been a conscious effort and decision to bleed a crystal, since the crystal fights against being bled/bleached?
My theory would be that Anakin was not fully turned yet. The killing of the tusken raiders was a temporary fall, and the younglings were killed out of desperation, trying in his mistaken way to save Padme. It's not until he is fully Darth that he gives in fully to the dark and intentionally bleeds his crystal.
Totally confusing. Also he/they 😅 should know that Sol did not kill the other Jedi. He should have been around while Mae (which he wanted to kill the scene before)was evil.. it is poor writing
@@edwin_s_f why? they left things open for a season 2 , we know osha is the acolyte , qimir is suspected as being venestras ex padawan. the only things we are unsure of is plageuis
I don't think the scar on Qimir's back is supposed to indicate that Vernestra tortured him, but had tried to kill him when he fell to the Dark Side, hence Vernestra's surprise at sensing his presence.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure in one of the wider shots of the planet osha and qimir are on the shoe island from the last jedi can be seen in the background, potentially confirming that this planet and ach to are one and the same
Here's one for you. What if Qimir is Chimer . . . from Chimera. A creature composed of more than one type/individual. And that ties to the helmet. Whenever Chimer puts the helmet on, he surrenders his body to the mind of Plagus and they become a Chimera. This is why Chimer becomes so much more powerful when he has the helmet on. This is also echoed in the end when Chimer covers Osha's hand with his own.
I wanna do a poll real quick. Would you rather: 1. Plagueis learns how to create life from the witches Or 2. Plagueis taught the witches how to create life
2. But I don’t think he gave them the full recipe, hence the one person split into twins. He feared having one being would be too powerful. So he divided the power between two beings.
I really enjoyed The Acolyte and consider it one of the better Disney+ live action shows. I did notice Sen Rayencourt's medallion and it looks similiar to Maul's medallion in Solo. Could Sen. Rayencourt be working for a syndicate? Reardless of Qimir's relationship to Plagueous, I believe Aimir anf Osha are going to be spun by The Jedi as fallen Jedi that turned to the dark side with no links to the Sith.
I think Ravencourt is connected with the Sith. He knows too much about the Jedi and their faults. It would be some symmetry to how Palpatine comes to power through the Senate. It would make sense if Plageus was training Qimir at some point to over throw his Master. But he just seems to want to do his own thing with some company. Not necessarily take out the Jedi, as long as they don’t get in his way.
I think the vergence makes dark side powers much more powerful (like flying inquisitors near another vergence), that's why everyone is teleporting around
its so funny to me that people keep pointing to earlier david harewood roles like he wasn't just in alan wake 2... its the most recent ip he had a big role in just because it was a video game doesn't mean it wasn't acting
Vernestra was asking whoever that was on the comm to meet with Yoda, even if they tried to move stuff around there's no reason anyone would be calling young Palpatine to get a meeting with Yoda.
What do you mean... sure Yoda doesn't say anything when Ki-Adi-Mundi says the Sith have been extinct a thousand years, but not long after when talking to Mace, he reveals he knows about the rule of two, which was put into place AFTER the jedi thought the sith defeated, meaning he knows that the sith have been active after Ki-Adi-Mundi thinks they were extinct, and not only that knows something of how they operate.
@@KardiacKid45 it was put in place a 1000 years before by the survivor of the war where Jedi thought the Sith had been wiped out... thus Ki-Adi Mundi's saying they had been extinct a thousand years... if the Sith had truly not been seen by the Jedi in that thousand years, then there is no way Yoda or any other Jedi could possibly have known about the rule of 2.