"It's not a tale the Jedi would tell you. Some say it's because they were covering up their crimes, but in truth it's because for all their flaws, they have much better taste in stories."
The bleeding crystal thing was always stupid. It used to be that the red crystals were synthetic kyber crystals because the Sith had to come up with some way to make lightsabers after leaving the Jedi.
also it's pretty fucking dubious if that was murder by Sol considering the mom just turned into a smoke demon and started vaporizing her own daughter lol
Plagueis would be making deals throughout the republic so he could strengthen his apprentice Palpatine to become a killer politician. But nooo, he's looking from behind a corner in a fucking cave on, get this, UNKNOWN PLANET.
@@suezcontours6653 I was commenting on the humorous conversational exchange. it was funny. There was no political point here. - You Americans man. - Don’t make me take your lunch money.
Disney will throw money at anything that promotes moral degeneracy as positive while also shitting on everything that is normal and isn't some weird shade of sub human only found in LA and Portland
Correct, they literally paid headlamp to keep her weinstein mouth shut and protect all those friends of harvey still out there and called it a paycheck and budget
I'd love to see the line-item list for where all the money went. Seriously. Where did the money go? Just like our government, you have to ask because what we get is never justified in comparison to what was presented.
@@vadamsvengeance3219 lol I just did what you did. Critical Drinker literally breaks down stupidity in writing. You just get triggered by him calling out wokeness and it's because youre woke. Show me a single CD review where he just calls something woke and that's it.
Quigon: Hey chancleor palapatine you wanna try out my light saber Palpatine: Oh no its ok Quigon: Go ahead try it out Palpatine: Holds light saber Quigon: Hey why is it red now
@@virtuaguyverifyI can't believe the shills are claiming this was a "cool" moment. She bleeds a crystal while not even TRYING TO. Meanwhile Anakin slaughters an entire room full of school children and his is still Ocean blue.
The idea of "Bleeding" kyber crystals started with Disney. Lucas Red Light Sabers are from synthetic crystals. That is why Anakin's saber never turns red.
I'm laughing that they couldn't even get the "How to kill a Jedi with no weapon" thing right. I thought the reveal was going to be you cannot kill a Jedi with a weapon, because killing their body does not destroy the soul and to 'kill' a Jedi you have to corrupt them. But nope, they just were like 'level up and learn force choke noob' lol
In one comment you have demonstrated a better understand of star wars and a higher aptitude for writing than anyone involved with the production of the Acolyte. Bravo.
What part of there being no weapon was difficult to follow? There was literally no weapon. An officer arriving at that scene would come to the conclusion of no weapon lol
@@Lynxwire My don't is if people have issues with Nepotism, call out ALL OF THEM. Not just the people you dislike. nepotism is a Hollywood staple which is why I don't pay for movies when I know the actor, writer, producer is from that kind of background. It's just unfair
@@suezcontours6653 Nobody was arguing whether bringing in family into a movie set is good or bad and honestly, personally I don't think this is an issue as long the result is good. I don't think whataboutism is a good way to make points like this. When we are talking about the Acolyte, seeing how this character Vernestra, is breaking Star Wars canon, being Leslye Headland's wife, it is like all the pieces of the puzzle is coming together. It is easy to assume that Rebecca Henderson probably has the same world views and interest of injecting real world social issues into the work they are doing. It is as if they want to ruin Star Wars by personally invading the universe and deliver the lines themselves. I thought it was funny to see Joe's reaction as he realised how Rebecca Henderson is connected to Leslye.
Yeah, cause the color of the saber has zero relevance to which side you're on. It's the crystal. And no, you can't just switch on the fly. That's not how bleeding a crystal works.
@@rogue9ch I don't have to use the word "canon" if they have a monopoly on it. Disney Star Wars is not REAL Star Wars. Happy? or is Disney suddenly defining reality now as well?
It absolutely kills me that at no point did Sol just tell Mae and Osha “I’m so sorry. She started transforming into a black mist of some kind and I perceived this action as a threat to your safety, and my own.” That could have saved everyone the trouble.
That's why I'll NEVER understand, he didn't kill her in Cold Blood he killed her because she was a danger. Bitch turns into a cloud of deadly ass smoke, what the hell did she expect him to do? He is a JEDI a defender and she's over there transforming into darkness.
I got called a “whacko” because I commented something similar. The person said Aniseya was “teleporting Mae”. At what point was the black mist established to be teleporting?
@@patriciaa65 even if that’s what it does, and that’s fine, sol just sees a dark magic transformation and panicked. Thats generally understandable I think for osha and Mae to think on
Episode 3: I'm the worst episode Episode 7: Hold my thread Episode 8: Oh my sweet summer child Season 2: (menacingly smiles in a corner while plotting which lore to ruin next)
*For anyone angry about the high production cost of The Acolyte, let me further show just how bad it is:* I compared seasons 1 of The Acolyte with a show that's close in production cost, House of the Dragon season 1. Acolyte: - 8 episodes - 33m30s average episode length (excluding intros and credits) - 4h22m total show length (excluding intros and credits) - $180mil production cost; $22.5mil per episode; $40mil per hour of show (based on 4.5h of show) HoTD: - 10 episodes - 58m42s average episode length (excludin intros and credits) - 9h47m total show length (excluding intros and credits) - $200mil production cost; $20mil per episode; $20mil per hour of show (based on 10h of show) Despite The Acolyte being just 10% less the cost of HoTD: - HoTD has 2 more episodes - HoTD's episodes are on average about 25 minutes longer - HoTD has about 5 hours and 15 minutes more of actual show length (excluding intros and credits) - HoTD's cost per episode is cheaper by $2.5 million - HoTD's cost per hour (based on show length) is a whole $20 million half less
There is no way the production cost $180 million to make. Probably a tax write off or something. Oh and it's possible marketing was included in that budget. Did they advertise the acolyte at the last superbowl? Because those slots are super expensive.
I don’t know why I didn’t realize, but even if Qimir erases the last sixteen years of Mei’s mind, she should still know she has a sister since they were at least 7 or 8 when the incident happened!
Mae: "See you in hell, Jedi!" Me: "Those interplanetary, time traveling, Christian missionaries sound like they are successfully getting their message out there...." 😂😂😂
Hell and the concept of a hell predates Christianity and is present in many other religions. The English word hell is from pre-Christian Germanic origins. In Taoism, hell is Diyu. In Middle Kingdom Egypt the condemned dead were sent to lake of fire (sound familiar?). In Sumeria, the afterlife was a bleak place called Kur. In ancient Greece, the place condemned souls were sent after judgement was Tartarus. Many religions have a similar concept. Why should the religion in the Star Wars universe be different? And just because they have to use an English word for the concept, doesn't mean that it is the same thing as a Christian hell.
Hell was mentioned a few times in the prequel trilogy. There's plenty of things to criticize. This is just toxic criticism. Han solo says "Then I'll see you in hell", in episode 5.
I am praying your wrong. If disney continues to do 30 minute live action episodes. Im not going to watch anymore . PERIOD. Its not even about the story. its about the Jar Jar Abram Mystery Box on top of 30 minutes. AngryJoe is complaining about writing. I am complaining about 30 minutes ..... I need a conclusion to a story. I cant watch fucking cliff hangers every damn episode. Im done.
Last I checked, corrupting a kyber crystal, or 'bleeding', as it's referred to in lore, takes a while. You have to meditate with the crystal and pour your hatred, anger, and pain into it over a period of time. And it didn't always work. But if you're a strong powerful whaman, it's like changing the LED setting on your keyboard/mouse
Never have I ever seen a high budget show with so much inconsistencies and badly written characters. Why did Basil suddenly turned on Sol? They didn’t explain it too. Such a failure of a show.
Me: “wait yoda was around this whole time?? He could’ve ended all this shit himself but sat back as Jedi after Jedi was being murdered? And why the fuck can’t Mei just go with them?” I was barely paying attention the entire series so I thought maybe I missed something along the way but didn’t care enough to rewatch any episodes. Then come to find out that Joe, someone who was thoroughly paying attention and taking notes, had the same exact thoughts as me. Bro I laughed so fucking hard 😂😂
I don't understand why we have to accept this as cannon! We don't accept fan fiction as cannon and that is what this show is. It is all bad fan fiction and shouldn't be accepted.
you dont. just disregard this and "live with the past". you know all the future star wars will be this quality. even if theres something like endor, it will have to take more and more notes from shows like this. until eventually disney retcons everything
TPM and AotC aren't the best, but their problems lie in the acting and dialogue (due to directing). They do not lie in the plot and character motivations, which is the largest problems with The Acolyte.
20:33 Come on Joe... that Anakin turn to the dark side in an instant (and being ALL IN) was stupid as hell. I love Star Wars, but god damn no one walked out of that theater thinking it was a well done moment.
Mae/Osha can't act for shit! Daphne acted better as a child in Logan than Mae could ever act in this entire series. Daphne and Lee needed their own show with Manny as a villain, but they killed them off with garbage writing.
Cooorrect, Amanda Stener or whatever her name is has to be one of the worst actresses I have ever seen on screen, and that is saying something these days.
Sadly this is what you get when you try to fit the story to the actress and not vice versa. Lesley Headland has mentioned many times the moment she met Amandla that she wanted her to be in the Star Wars show (that wasn't written yet) - this was consolidated further when she found the (real-life) Afr-American twins to act as the younger counterparts. No auditions were held, neither were there test-screenings or script-readings. This was (mainly?) due to the dearth of the type of actresses (without mentioning race) involved. Those who were good (or better) actresses that were approached rejected the role (either due to Star Wars as a franchise, or they read the script).
I was physically cringing at the start of the episode when she was trying to act "terrified" from the helmet visions but simply looked constipated...then using the force to choke Sol...disinterested? Her face basically has one look. Horrible acting.
"The Acolyte had unlimited potential. High potential." ...No, it really didn't, Joe. It had absolutely no potential, and a particular portion of the fans knew it from the moment Leslie Headlund was named the creator.
The portion of fans you talking about is TOO OLD for Disney. Disney is a KIDS entertainment network. They don't give AF about you 30 somethings and above. You don't have kids of your own. It's not a coincidence the actress is South African. Africa has a booming middle class and plenty of kids. White population decline is happening in USA and UK
I think the lightsaber "bleeding" is stupid. The sith just choose red for symbolic reasons, they use synthetic crystals they could make them whatever colour they felt like.
I hate that as well, could you imagine having a shitty day and just yell out "I hate everybody!" out of anger and your light saber turns red. It's like "OHH shit I didn't mean it, please turn blue......my bad' like what is the deciding factor to the change? Anakin killed Younglings (hate that name) and it didnt' change. This series, she kills one dude who killed her mom.... it's RED?
Am I really the only one who thinks synthethic crystals are stupid? Like, I've always felt this way, even before Disney. I think imbuing the crystal with the dark side is much more interesting.
@@Arander92 why would it be stupid, you can make synthetic crystals right now in real life. This bleeding stuff is some hippie wu wu bullshit Disney made up to make sith look more evil unnecessarily. Lightsabers are just a piece of technology at the end of the day. Why would red be an inherently evil colour for a rock, does that mean rubies are secretly evil?.
@@Arander92 You can already make synthetic crystals in real life, why would it be stupid in star wars? The bleeding thing is the sort of thing you think is cool when you're an edgy 14 year old.
why not just stick with the "real kyber crystals are on Ilum, Sith can't get them, so they make synthetic ones. boom, done." even in Jedi Survivor, the bleeding looked retarded and I love that game.
Why should we care about Qimir and Osha holding hands at the end? They have NO chemistry and just as equally less screentime together... there's NOTHING THERE. They are terrible people.
They were the worse toxic relationship i have ever seen on screen, bitch beat the shit out of her sister or clone whatever, took off her clothes, left her to rot in the forest. None of them have any loyalty to each other, even as kids they were fighting. One wanted to be a Jedi other one wanted to kill everybody.
It’s honestly hilarious how bad this show was. I only watch new Star Wars anymore just to see the train wreck. It’s insanely easy to not even consider this canon.
I only watch the new Star Wars like I do with Marvel, I just HOPE there will be some redemption and with Wolverine and Deadpool there is going to be some. I REALLY want them to do the same with Star Wars, learn from their Wins and make shit for the fans. It's a fact that females would rather see Male character take on the powerful roles like Jedi's or Super Heroes ect, so who the fuck are they making all of this Woke content for? NOBODY, which is why it's all failing.
I will not consider thus Canon going forward. If I want to do a chronological marathon of Star Wars. I'm starting with Phantom Menace. This show deserves to be forgotten.
Fan fiction: Green head tries to explain the complete mess of this show to Yoda. An extremely long and uncomfortable silence drags out until Yoda straight up tells her to GTFO. No quirky backwards dialogue. Yoda just straight up tells her to pack her bags and leave. Non PG version = Yoda straight up take her head off and delivers it to the council to say SHE was responsible for everything and he will PERSONALLY hunt down Osha etc. Flash forward = Qimir, the last space witches and Osha being killed in the rightful rightous fury of thousands of Jedi that will carry them forward as guardians and peaceful protectors of the galaxy.
Let's not pretend we're not happy that the guy playing Sol is now free to get back to more professional, better written projects, instead of dreading the possibility of starring in season 2 of the Acolyte.
Woke garbage is announced, trailer is horrendous, everyone can smell that it's gonna suck from a mile away Joe: Oh hey, now this has some potencial, why is everyone being so biased? Woke garbage is released Joe: Oh hey, now this can improve, let's see how it develops, why is everyone being so biased? Woke garbage ends its runs Joe: Yeah no, I hated this fucking thing, it belongs in hell and I'm never getting those hours back!!!! EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Rinse and repeat.
Pretty sure that he was put in charge well after this show was already in production, this is a Kathleen Kennedy project, weird how people seem to have forgotten that.🤔
@unversedhero6028 he allowed it to be released, instead burning the film real and tipping off the fbi to what at this point has to be fraud at best and foreign powers destroying basic American cornerstones down to tv and movies at worst
Basil turned on the Jedi! When Jedi Master Sol went to shoot the evil twin down, Basil prevented it, protecting the Sith! I cant believe you were right about that.
In revenge of the sith, during order 66 you can see yoda become basically physically ill when various jedi are killed. He must have just not cared about any of the jedi in this show, like us, since he obviously sensed nothing.
to be fair, that was basically every jedi dying at once across the galaxy. this was like 4 jedi over multiple days/weeks. i don't wanna defend this series but i'll give it that.
This show is bad but that’s not really a point. Jedi conflicts have happened and resulted in death and I don’t expect Yoda to be in tune with all of that. The fact he’s being informed about it though…
@@williamdyer5015 Naw, that isn't even a good to be fair moment, he felt the darkness when Anakin got revenge for his mom. Yoda is beyond powerful with the force, he would have no doubt sense their deaths with the force.
@@williamdyer5015 4 jedi? There was over half a dozen Jedi killed outside of Kelnacca's hut in short succession. Let's assume that a bunch of Jedi died during the clone wars. Order 66 would've been a spike out of the norm, yoda senses the spike right? Over half a dozen Jedi killed in 5 minutes in a time period where the galaxy is at peace & it would be very unheardof for someone to kill a Jedi, that would be a major event that I would expect Yoda to sense in some way
@@samuelketner1391 not gonna lie i totally forgot that fight happened. i still find it difficult to believe that yoda would be able to sense any jedi death in any corner of the galaxy, but to each their own. i'd rather have him sensing the genocide of the jedi order be the exception rather than the rule, but that's just me.
Sol is literally the only kind of cool character that Disney has made, since they bought Star Wars… and they killed him off… after thoroughly assassinating his character.
@@anon2752 it's also because although he is an awful character he still looks like a great character in comparison to the others on the show which are even worse.
The character was garbage, the actor was great. Qimir is in the same boat imo where the actor is interesting, his helmet is pretty cool, and his fighting style is great, but the character and motivations suck ass. Such a waste of two potentially compelling characters/actors.
I've bought Factor myself. They are *not* cost effective. The initial discount helps, but the moment that discount ends you're gonna be paying *alot* even for the smallest box. As for the meals themselves, they love giving you green beans with everything. I ordered something that didn't have green beans...and got green beans lol. Best meals cost more than the other ones. Some of them are legit really good, but others..not so much. Basically - go for it if you don't have time to make your own dinners and cancel the moment that discount ends or you'll start seeing $100+ dollar charges. Why am I focusing on the ad instead of the actual video? Cuz I mean, it's the Acolyte. What else is there to say about it lol.
In George Lucas's Star Wars, red Khyber crystals are synthetic. The lore change to bleeding was done by Disney. You need to pour all your hatred and malice to create a red crystal. Vader tried and failed many times to make his red saber before he finally succeeded, because Vader was still, even while being a Sith, very conflicted.
I really hope this gets to alex bc he fundamentally does not understand anakins turn and lucas lays out exactly why anakin turned. Anakins number 1 goal is to keep padme alive after losing his mother, fear of loss. Anakin goes to yoda when he starts having dreams of padme dying and yoda basically says to be happy shes dying ... that does not help anakin at all. Then anakin is told about a dark side power that can save ppl from death. Anakin "turning" to the dark side when he cut off windus arm isnt like "now im evil" its more like a good person choosing to do evil, anakin was crying on mustafar when padme showed up, anakin was more like play acting, throwing himself fully into the role of sith, he started talking about killing palpatine and ruling the galaxy ... he was trying to go as full dark side as possible to get the power to save padme. Flash forward to when padme is dead and hes now vader in the suit. Vaders ambition is nothing compared to anakins, he has no need to go deeper into the darkside, hes basically evil now out of default now, its not until hes confronted with the death of his son that he remembers that the entire reason he went to the dark was to save his family and now the dark side is killing his son. Lucas wrote the jedi to be flawed and them not allowed to have a family was a mistake
Oh I think Alex (and I'd be very surprised if anyone didn't) knows exactly why Anakin turned, it's laid out clear as day, but it's not that. It's the execution of it. Unfortunately George Lucas kinda messed up by calling the original Star Wars episode four, and we only had one film to explore this. It really felt like the turn needed, from the decision to jumping ship to executing children, another solid film length but it all had to be shoe-horned into that third episode along with everything else that happened. While Joe said it may have been fixed up afterwards (admittedly I haven't seen the Clone Wars series so it might be in that), that's what we had to go on walking out of the cinema in episode three.
@PokeNPC I think you'd be suprised how many ppl think anakin just turned evil after killing windu. That's why alex says the turn doesn't feel satisfying ... that's bc he didn't really turn, he truly turned after padme is dead and all he has left are his evil deeds. His love for padme connected him to the light and that same love for Luke turned him back. Most people don't realize that lucas wrote the prequel jedi to be semi corrupt, not being allowed to have a family and shunning emotions isn't truely jedi, that's why luke was the first true jedi in a long time, bc he uses his love for family as a strength. Honestly I've never heard anyone else have this viewpoint
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