Not sure what would stop anyone from doing REHIT on many types of quality cardio equipment. I use my Echo bike for a similar workout (for a third of the price and no subscription fees to boot). If I wanted subscription fees I would join a gym. Always love your reviews and insights Coop, but I think pricing and value proposition should have more weight in your scoring system. Just my two cents.
It's designed for people who need external structure For someone who as you say can do it on your own, it's not needed, but for another person it may be just what they need
@@avinashtyagi2 Not sure what you mean by external structure, but my Echo bike has structure built in as well, including pre-programmed template workouts, and audible beeps for when you need to go hard, etc. But my comment was just a suggestion that price/value should be weighted more than other aspects in his scoring system. I think Coop naturally does that kind of assessment on most equipment he reviews, but for this particular piece of equipment I'm not seeing that consideration. Thus, my suggestion was to hard-code the price/value score so that it holds more weight in his scoring system and thus has more bearing in the final "Coop score." Again, it was just a thought.
@@Orpheus_03 Sure, but this one does all if that for you, it sets the resistance automatically, it also stores how well you did for the next exercise and adjusts accordingly
@@Orpheus_03 “external structure” - translation: people who have been conditioned to not be an expert in more than one area of their life. Need something or a structure that takes the need for expertise out of their hands. There is a massive market for this sort of thing.
The first thing I do with any of Coops reviews is check the price. Most of the stuff he reviews is well over $1500 which I think alienated most peoples budget.
@@steverapos3904 yh we just here to see the product and opinion ,mosty of us are never gonna buy this stuff ,also if you have a lifestyle of exercise u DO NOT need to spend more than £1000 on any cardio machine, the will to workout and exercise is in your mindset not how fancy the machine is
The price point isn’t reasonable. Can I achieve the same ‘stress’ on an assault bike with a Tabata style workout - yes. Why is this almost x4 the price…
so 12 bucks and month and what? you don't pay, you can't use the bike? nobody should support this. you don't need a computer to tell you when to do a 20 second sprint
Hey Garrett, you can still use your CAROL bike without subscription. CAROL’s membership offers a way for riders to access personalized workouts that continue to evolve as they get fitter, see and track their fitness levels, and see how they compare with others on the CAROL leaderboard. If membership is cancelled, the bike can still be used like a regular exercise bike, and CAROL workouts will still be available to use at the level they were set at the time of cancellation. However all cloud and server-based services - including resistance personalization and optimization, online dashboards, software updates and new features - will no longer be available.
Without having read the research (and let’s be honest, I wouldn’t be able to interpret it properly), I’m skeptical, it seems almost a bit “6 minute abs” - is it burning the same amount of calories as a 45 min job or just has the same cardiovascular fitness benefits as said jog? Because with how sedentary people are, they probably need the straight up caloric expenditure in their life.
yup, anyone whos into the fitness lifestyle knows when to increase their output without some stupid AI and monthly payments and a overpriced machine ,just get a concept 2 rower asnd play the game on it
For the price I would rather just buy a smart trainer for my existing bike and connect to Zwift. Zwift can automatically adjust resistance based on the terrain in the app or based on the workout you select. Have you thought about reviewing it?
Well as I say on virtually every one of these smart tech reviews, "Interesting, but I'll never buy it". Some cool features, and I don't doubt the effectiveness of REHIT, depending on your fitness goals; however, it seems very overpriced, and I can all but promise you that I'll never pay a monthly subscription for home gym equipment Keep doing your thing, GGR. I watch like 98% of your videos, even if I know that I have zero interest in buying what you're reviewing. Cheers
I'm actively trying to build my home gym so I don't need to pay a monthly gym membership. Why would I buy a piece of equipment that would then require me to pay a monthly fee to use it? No thanks !
Great review. I have the. Aron and feel it’s the most impressive piece of kit that I’ve ever experienced. I just like the fact I get on the bike and let the AI do the rest
Hey Hudson, our co-founder Ulrich Dempfle answered this exact question on Dave Asprey's podcast recently - it's very difficult to imitate REHIT on a regular bike and this is why. For REHIT, you must exercise at your maximum level, which requires application of precisely the right resistance, personalized for your capabilities (which is higher than most people assume). CAROL's computer-controlled brake system applies the resistance fully automatically, at the right speed and the right time, in a fraction of a second. In academic research, a lab technician using specialized equipment ensures that riders are performing REHIT according to these requirements, but in real life it was impossible to achieve before CAROL.
Coop admits he is a tech enthusiast, his interest in the cutting edge of where tech meets gym equipment is clear. It must be so cool to have companies ask for his feedback on stuff he tests out, most we probably never even see. I just hope GGR keeps a nice mix of stuff with knurling, rack attachments, unique gym tours, interviews with key players in the market, along with these Silicon Valley Subscription Based 3k+ equipment. Love the Channel and website GGR Team!
Coop, I bought a Carol bike 2.0 using your link, based on your review. I agree with all of your points and 2.0 is more refined than this 1.0 bike. I love mine!
Hey there! While Peloton and others offer many HIIT/Tabata/Interval classes, the intensity reached in those is much lower than the maximum intensity reached in a CAROL Intense (REHIT) workout. CAROL riders achieve 2.4X higher intensity levels in a CAROL sprint compared to their maximum intensity in other popular HIIT cycling workouts. Have a great day 😊💙
Like your thoughts on a rower and skier. I would also like to see a bike like this in a recumbent style. Really like the idea of bringing AI into helping develop your performance. Looking forward to seeing what else is on the horizon.
As a recumbent rider on the road, I still prefer upright stationary bikes for my workouts; much easier for cardio. However, if you need a bent due to musculo-skeletal reasons, I get it
Is there an app that does the same thing with a pro form Tour de France for example? That bike cost me $150 and the ifit app can adjust resistance for me. I just don’t like their app.
Sooooooo Carol is saying we just need to do two 20 second all out bursts on our Assault/Echo/ Airdynes with some rest in between? Sweet that’s a lot less grueling work than the 50 kcal for time or the 3-8 20 second all out bursts than i’ve been doing on my fan bike. I’ll be more likely to hop on for 2 bursts than I would for more work. I only end up getting on mine about once a week. I swear I get a little PTSD just looking at my Airdyne, lol I try to avert my eyes from it most of the time I’m using other equipment. Nothing gets you panting harder than an fan bike HIIT workout. I wish Coop had put out his thoughts on if he finds the fan bikes are more exhausting than the Carol sprints. The fan bikes get your arms/upper body more involved than the Carol it looks like.
@@GarageGymReviews thanks, Mike. I’ve only known Airdynes- the older 1980’s chain driven up to the AD7 belt driven i’ve got now. It’s Always fun to have somebody who’s never done it just go all out for 60 seconds. Lactic acid you foul mistress.
Honestly, I don’t think it’s overpriced. If you look at high end mountain bikes and other sports equipment they pretty much cost the same or more. Not only that, but this comes with many other advanced features. With that being said, I would never purchase a piece of equipment that doesn’t function at its full capacity without an ongoing subscription. It’s like you never actually own your own equipment. (I do understand it works without the subscription, however, I just don’t see fitness subscriptions like this catching on).
Thanks for your comments, we appreciate the time you took to watch the review. You can still use your CAROL bike without a subscription, but CAROL’s membership offers a way for riders to access personalized workouts that continue to evolve as they get fitter, see and track their fitness levels, and see how they compare with others on the CAROL leaderboard. We hope that helps 😊💙
Exercise is medicine Once people recognize that, it’s easy to understand why dose is so critical. The data is clear on short bursts of 100% effort. The most common comment here is, “but I can do that on my own.” Ask yourself an honest question. Are you doing it? If so, great. 99.9% of you aren’t, even if you think you are. This device could fundamentally change medicine if used properly and by the masses. Kudos to Carol.
In "Slow Burn" ultra distance runner Stu Mittleman talks about maintaining your heart rate at a pace that is sustainable. If you go too fast and hard you are less likely to enjoy it as well as increase your chances of injury. Cardio work should not be a thing of dread. There is a place for sprints, but it can not be the totality of your work.
Hey Coop, any idea what the average calorie burn is for the roughly 10 minute workout? I know there are a lot of factors that go into that, but even a ballpark?
Thank you for including the CAROL bike on Garage Gym Reviews! We're so happy to have you in our community of over 10,000 riders enjoying shorter, smarter workouts and really appreciate your honest assessment. 💪💙 If anyone would like to read more about the science of REHIT and see how CAROL's AI-powered workouts are proven to give you the benefits of a 45-minute run in 8 minutes 40 seconds, check out the "science" area of our website: carolbike.com/science/ If you'd like to try the CAROL bike yourself at home for 100 days, with free delivery and easy, no-questions-asked returns, head to our shop: carolbike.com/shop-us/
I'm on beta blockers for hypertension, which reduce your heart rate even during strenuous exercise. My concern is that the Carol bike would misinterpret that, leading to dangerous over exertion.
I trust the guy, so if Cooper said it's worth it, it probably is for most people. I can see this bike has a unique perspective that a traditional bike doesn't have. That being said, I probably not gonna buy the bike. Yeah, it's $12 per month, which is less than a gym membership but at the same time you don't have to pay initial $1,000~$5,000 for it. That's a huge risk if you don't know how long you're going to use that product. Hopefully one day, manufacturers offer "update" basses charges (which is a better way than 1 month trial IMO), but this can be a very hard way to implement because they have to prove themselves before actually get paid. The concept of monthly subscription fee makes me feel like I'm renting the product, for that initial price of smart gym equipment is a little too hefty.
Hey Hyun, we offer a 100-day home trial on our website which you could try. If you don't like the bike, you can return it with no questions asked. That will give you an idea of how long you're going to use CAROL for and whether it suits your workout regime. Let us know if you've got any other questions: carolbike.com
I've been doing this kind of exercise after watching BBC documentary on high intensity cycling using a cheap stopwatch and a cheap stationary exercise bike... This is a waste of money 💸.
I've been running like this for 15 years. Sure, there are different ways of achieving this. The point of this is using AI to do it with near absolute accuracy, while providing a good quality bike. I wouldn't call it a waste.
@@TommyHiggz Totally right - the accuracy that CAROL bike can provide means each workout is personalized to the rider's needs and the bike can adjust for you in a fraction of a second!
I had one of those seats and it caused uncomfortable inner thigh rubbing and because its so soft it caused my nads to go numb. solution bought 2 new seats, first one being too narrow (had to learn about the sit down bones).
Michael, calories burned has a much to do with time as it does distanced traveled. The issue with hiit is, you'll burn more calories in a shorter time because you exerted yourself more. But then your body will need to recover from that and by the end of the day your NEAT (Non-exercise activity thermogenesis) will likely balance itself sub consciously. It's like filling up your car with gas and A: cruise control with low rpm and travel 100miles, or B stomp on it, bury the needle and get that 100 miles done. you'll get there faster sure. but what's left in the tank?
Fake AI is going to be a common issue in coming years. Not saying this is fake, but nothing Coop described differentiates real AI from an algorithm. Just because the workout is different each time doesn't mean it's AI. But for most people, it will seem like AI and they'd be willing to pay more for something marketed as having AI.
@@bmp713 I'm coming up with an equipment wishlist/budget for a future gym endeavor. I don't want to spend so much that I fill a class with these, but having several in the cardio area would be tops! The resistance is super consistent and there were lots of resistance options (unlike an echo bike which has 1 option). I def felt a major pump in my quads, which is what I'd usually want before starting a lower body workout, with no stress on the knees. I'd probably want to swap the saddle though as a personal preference.
Not convinced it is actually "AI". Like, a complicated algorithm with lots of variables doesn't just make something AI. Sounds to me just like anything electronically controlled, but with a bit better programming. What otherwise would the AI be doing?
Hey there! The AI works by guiding your workouts on the bike. AI personalizes each ride to keep the rider working at their own optimal intensity, and achieving their personal maximum fitness gains as quickly as possible. CAROL’s AI algorithms analyze your ride and combine your data with that from hundreds of thousands of other rides. This enables the AI to determine the optimal rate of fatigue and calculate your optimal, personalized resistance. That optimized resistance is applied to your next ride. Thank you for asking 😊💙
Hey Coop! Can you please do a review on the Oculas Quest 2?(I think I spelled that right) I know it’s a “video game” but there’s some really dope “workout” games that are supposed to be amazing! Thanks in advance Mr.Cooper
I can already see they got the seat right. Concept 2 Bike Erg’s original seat (pre-me changing it to something like the Carol bike) was too all up my my business…
This is a joke right? I thought you had to declare any paid promotions on youtube these days? personally i Would rather spend my money on a shake weight!
I’m a big guy. Like tall and big. So I don’t look fat. Like I know I could lose some weight. But I am 300lb. Would be great if more things went at least that but maybe even 350lb. 286lb max user weight puts this out of reach.
Should have started this video with the price of this bike. 2500 dollars. Thanks for showing us what it does now I will just replicate this on my bike that is a reasonable 800 dollars, problem solved.
for $3000 CAD you could just a bike and a smart trainer. It would be far more interactive, interesting, engaging and you have a bike to go like outside and shit.
hiit workouts are overrated. Multiple studies have shown that although you burn more calories in a length of time, you tend to exhaust yourself and coast or burn less throughout the so it ends up balancing out often enough. Also, if you are training to build muscle, it may impede your bodies ability to recover for at least leg training. Although i think it's great to get that heart rate up regularly for health reasons, I just don't Hiit should be treated like the best thing since sliced bread. I would also say, if fat loss was the goal, and one was currently quite out of shape to begin with. I'd say stay away from it and stick with better food and steady state cardio for best results. This thing looks cool but monthly subscription is a little out of line. That's like video games with a pay to win system or micro-transactions within the game. the whole point of home gyms are to get away from fees.
I do not believe that doing a ten ish minute workout is "just as beneficial as a 45 minute jog." You won't burn the same amount of calories, that's a fact. I don't think you would build as much muscle endurance either. It would be reasonable to think that you would just get better at sprinting and performing high intensity movements, which is good, but does not compare to steady state cardio. Just my two cents.
Hey Nathan! Thanks so much for your comment, it's good to hear from you. You can read more about how CAROL's workouts deliver bigger health and fitness benefits in 20% of the time compared to regular exercise on our website: carolbike.com/science/ We hope it's helpful to you.
Dude get a real bike a smart trainer and a zwift account instead of that limiting, boring thing. There are a ton of apps you can use with a smart trainer that are way bettet than that thing.
Hey there! The CAROL bike measures each rider’s maximum intensity based on their fitness level and prior performance on the bike, so it will push you as hard as you can ride. REHIT was developed in the lab, studied by scientists, and perfected by CAROL for use by anyone at home. We’ve collaborated directly with Vollaard and Metcalfe to make sure CAROL makes REHIT accessible to everyone.
He only reviews expensive stuff so he has a reason to get it. It's like a drug and will hurt his "career" because the average person can't afford anything on his channel and the people that can don't sit on RU-vid and research things they just buy and return if they don't like it.
Pretty hard to take this seriously with such obviously incorrect/misleading statements trying to claim that a couple of 20 seconds sprints is going to give equivalent results as a 45 minute jog…. 🙄. C’mon man, quit shilling. You must know that’s nonsense.
Hey Joshua, if you want to try out the CAROL bike for yourself you can check out our 100-day home trial carolbike.com. Let us know if you've got any questions!