The Akaviri Invasion & The Reman Empire | The Elder Scrolls Podcast #17 

They should be allowed to be at least consultants considering they are overall considered the ambassadors for the fans of TES

That sounds like a great idea but they'll probably instead just keep adding more dragon breaks to cover up their retcons and inconsistencies.

I wish I worked at Bethesda. I would make this happen for Shor.

Hmm... i think they should be a food item. Suave scotch, dreamy drewdrop, macho michaels variants.

@@xidarian there are no inconsistencies. What can't be explained with a dragon break was either an artifice of the dwemer, or else a wizard did it.

Also my ideal time to watch the podcast or play Skyrim but with a cup of tea

I feel like someone writes this comment every week. Next time it's my turn.

weird, best time for me is when i smoke a bowl and start going to bed

Why am I suddenly hungry for neck veins?

@@casfacto Because you’re a hungry little fox, Hans.

Raise ramen.

REEEMMMAAAAAAAAAANNNNN!

And Pelinal while you're at it

and that's why the elder scrolls is amazing

The Elder Scrolls universe is expansive, but it's also less expansive than what one can be lead to believe. For example, consider a single reference to an elven king of an obscure isle near the somerset region, whom fought against say the psijic order during year xyz. There's the implication that there was a king of notable magical capacity, ruling over a kingdom of elves unrelated to the somerset isles kingdoms, with its own unique history, culture, people and magical traditions capable of rivaling the psijic. However none of that is actually illustrated, it is merely implied and left to the readers imagination to fill in the blanks.

@@ceryler.4096 There are a lot of problems with the lore, as I belive Scott pointed out. A lot of things that weren't expanded on were just because of lazy writers ever since like 2007

@@idipped2521 Yes, that's more or less my point.

@@ceryler.4096 I wouldn't necessarily call what you pointed out laziness. You could spend every waking moment of your life writing and expanding lore, and still there would be gaps. In fact, the more you write, the more opportunities you make for gaps. That's simply gonna happen.

This is a highly underrated comment

Realpolitik at its best!

Sounds like something a Thalmor agent agent would say

I mean, considering they blew through Skyrim at a time when shouting was commonplace and the Nords still shared a lot of characteristics with their Atmoran ancestors, meaning exceptionally tall and strong men who can yell at walls to make them disappear, I would say that was the most shrewd political maneuver any Emperor of Cyrodiil has ever made. Assuming they weren't actually there in search of a Dragonborn, maintaining any kind of autonomy at that stage would be a miracle... Of course, he could have also just maxed out his speech skill by spamming admire over and over until they gave him what he wanted. It's chim, I ain't gotta explain shit.

Knife ear alert

Their dynasty only lasted for 200 years, and there was a period of over 400 years I believe between the Thrassian Plague which was after the dragon break and Reman taking over

Such a great way to say it

Ah a man of culture.

The creators probably knew that. After all since these people are called the Remans, just one letter different from Romans it makes since they are based off of them.

@@raccoonabuser468 Well, that and Romulus had a brother named Remus.

True

I'm as much of a Rome fanboy as the next but Rome is one of the greatest empires, there is the Mongolian empire to contend with, and the Persian empire.

@@campbelld.1426 the Chinese Empire

Good point. Older battles of annihilation like the Night of Tears were uncommon, probably oaths of fealty and taking aristocratic soldiers ransom. I don’t want the Elder Scrolls to be suddenly filled with firearms but I’d be excited to see some evidence of the evolution of warfare in ES6. If the Thalmor conquests are roughly equivalent to idk the 7 Years War, maybe next game we see a world where one kingdom is developing a citizen-soldier army or early Napoleonic warfare.

@@TobeWilsonNetwork i'm all for guns in TES, BUT, when i say guns, it means muskets, 16th century pistols, those kind of guns. It would really fit the Redguards to have those kind of weapons. Their lore and culture sometimes feel like something out of a colonization period setting.

I wonder who would be more powerful. Pelinal or Reman. My bet is Reman because the Akaviri bowed to him and they whooped everybody else's ass they came into contact with. But it's close. There are arguments for both

@@idipped2521 Well... the Akaviri bowed in recognition of him been Dragonborn (they must have keep Akatosh as the most important deity on they culture, so its like an army of christian suddenly found that they literally fougth Jesus) Pelinal was a cyborg from the future who survive been chop to pieces, and he charges armies all alone, equipped with armor and weapons blessed with the 8 divines. Reman had the Thu'um on his side, but we dont know who many shouts he had, and the mastery of these. But then again, he was Dragonborn. So... hard to tell whit will win on a hand to hand.

@@RahamaLaham Yeah. I see Reman as basically equivalent to the Dragonborn from Skyrim in power so it would be hard to tell

@@RahamaLaham Pelinal was very powerful too tho considering he smashed the Ayleid Empire but he also had Morihaus on his side which Reman had nobody even comparable too in power or strength

Bonk

Because he is. He is measuring your worth before sacrificing you to Antanea, the god queen ant of the Asir.

and also the 36 lessons of vivec

I wouldn't want it unless they did it RPG style, like in Skyrim or Oblivion. I would be fine with the game having a smaller map like Morrowind as long as it was well-crafted and had good exploration/mechanics. Exploration is one of the best things about the Elder Scrolls series. Having complete linearity takes away from the mystery and open-endedness that makes the series for me. That was a big problem in Redguard. It just takes a lot of the excitement out of it. I don't think anyone is gonna complain about a TES RPG coming out as long as it has good mechanics, exploration, and gives us new lore while giving us new mysteries

They tried that with the adventure games and both redgaurd and battlespire bombed

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Except the fact that the Akaviri dragonguard of Reman are 100% known to be Tsaesci.

@@Priceluked Nothing is 100% known in the elder scrolls outside of the games. Especially from the first era which was a time of myth and legend

@@idipped2521 But I mean the potentates and the names of all the Akaviri and the Dragonguard are all called Snake-Men. At the very least the Akaviri weren't normal humans as ESO has introduced some lore about whether the Tsaesci are shape shifters or not.

@@Priceluked Well yes but that could tie into the ancient perspective of European men seeing Asians as "snakes" and not trusting them due to cultural differences. But we have no reason to believe there aren't actual snake men in Akavir. I just believe that Japanese looking men came from there too

@@idipped2521 It's possible that Asiatic style humans did, but at the very least all named and confirmed Akaviri that were apart of the first invasion force were tailed reptilian beast folk. And the fact that any reference to the men of Akavir lists the Tsaesci as having eaten the humans. It seems though that the Tsaesci may in fact take on the attributes of what they devour so no way to know for sure yet.

It seems that the Remen Empire is the most confusing one of them all. 🤣

Didn’t invest his perks well 😂

Plot armour

Ez, Reman was Cyrodiil come while the Tribunal weren't

that's because the map in the games is just a representation of the map in the lore. The same thing is with GTA games

Well I mean the whole dynasty is started out of wedlock, pretty sure the bill banger wasn’t consummating a marriage

Hill*

The best part is when Hagrid in full crusader plate screams Harry's name near the forest well before Harry was born

I wouldn't want it to be strictly Japanese in flavor. It would need to feel very alien to match up to what we want it to be. One mistake they made while making the lore since Morrowind imo is that everything needs to be based on something from real life. Kinda put a lot of limitation on the lore. There would need to be semblances of Japanese influence scattered around from ancient history but the new Western Akaviri/Tsaesi culture should be not based on anything from real life imo

I've always thought it would be really great to do a spin-off game, not a main line TES game, the way they did Redguard.

Elder Scrolls is about Tamriel, and there's no way we have a game in Akavir when we haven't even gone to each province.

@@Priceluked No... The Elder Scrolls is not a strictly about Nirn. Nor should it be. If it was we wouldn't have the writings of the great MK, or any of the info about Pyandonea, Akavir, Yokuda, etc. I don't think most TES fans want the series to be a contiguous in time series all set in Tamriel. Having a game set in a different era/dragon break/different continent such as Akavir would be an injection of youth into the franchise. It would open up so much more lore for us to discuss. Especially if it was a combination of both. A way for them to keep the mystery about Akavir would be to give us a game set in the distant, distant past so for us to learn more about Akaviri culture and have more lore to discuss while also not letting us know what's going on there in the 4th era or even in the last 1000 years before the fourth era. I don't see why you wouldn't want that

@@idipped2521 you’re 100% right on all counts. I couldn’t agree more.

Who would even want to harm you, you are boring

They ain’t messin’ with Malacath and they seem to have a grudge act Imperials. They’d probably side with the elves just for that.

I've been spending lots of time around Skyrim's orcs recently, and a surprising number talk positively about the empire and the legion (lots of orcs both inside and outside of the strongholds have been in the legion), but I've never heard any mention the Stormcloaks. Still, I think an Orc who spends enough time around the Nords could easily come to side with them, especially since Nord culture values very similar things to Orc culture (bravery, strength, fighting skill). I doubt an orc would care much about Talos, though. They would join the Stormcloaks because they admire them, I think, rather than to fight the ban on Talos.

@@taylororourke2525 elves? It’s still imperial

I think magic is partially to blame for that. When you have levitation, water breathing, telekinesis, long distance communication spells (Uriel V's mages used them to communicate during his invasion of Akavir), etc. its less important to come up with technology to do the same things. I imagine Alteration, which focuses on the manipulation of the natural world, is actually quite an extensive magic school that would have way more applications than Skyrim shows us. But I also think that the cultures of Tamriel were far more magically and technologically advanced in the past, and that they have actually gotten less advanced with time. You can see this in things like the magica wells and what essentially are magica batteries that the elves of Cyrodiil created and that no one knows how to replicate. The Dwemer are another example; they were extremely advanced in their tonal architecture, automotons, and metalurgy, but, again, no one knows how to replicate it. Even the Argonians had a more advanced civilization in the past that built all the zanmeer scattered across Black Marsh.

They cover lore from every aspect of the universe. It would help to go and watch the videos before you comment such a thing

@@idipped2521 yes of course, I have been watching them for almost four years if my memory serves right. But that is a long time, friend. And of course as an Elder Scrolls fan fiction writer, I spent a lot of time doing homework. That's why I crave for content I am not aware about not that the current content is beneath me or anything.

@@Dasnanortion I definitely feel you on that, which is why after TES 6 they should give us a breath of fresh air and give us a game that's set at least 1000 years before Skyrim, in another continent such as Akavir, or both if they want to keep Akavir mysterious. A good way to do that would be to make a game set before or after the Akaviri dragon war which actually happened before the dragon war in Tamriel. So if they made a game in Akavir in the First or Merethic eras we would get to learn more about Akaviri culture while still keeping it a mystery as to what's happened there since the first/merethic eras. I just hope it would actually be an RPG like Skyrim or oblivion and not an adventures game

@@idipped2521 to the Elder Scrolls developers, Akavir is a lazy excuse to add katanas to the game. That's what I think tbh. Having a game set in Akavir is almost impossible if the mindset of the Elder Scrolls team stayed the same as it is from the Skyrim developing time. Of course the idea of the Second Akaviri invasion changed my perspective but as many other fans, I feel that it is even more unnecessary and badly written since it didn't even make one single sense in the end and became an excuse for the very unlikely Ebonheart Pact. The appearance of the Akaviri town in Elsweyr DLC was the most of what we actually seen of Akavir and sets a good chance for us to see more even in the Elder Scrolls VI but it is very unlikely to be something as big as Akavir or as small as a tiny piece of it. As for the Merethic Era and Dragon War, I think they are treasure troves that can be done really well with decent writers backing the project especially if the old writers returned on that one. With the current writing quality especially from what seen in ESO, I don't expect anything more than a Hollywood-fantasy writing style, nothing like the Epicness of the olden days. Still, if you want to see some Akavir stuff, google a Skyrim mod project called "Mysterious Akavir", it hasn't been active lately thanks to the fact that most modders are focusing on Beyond Skyrim but there is a hope that it returns one day.

@@Dasnanortion I agree with the problem with developers. They need to bring back Michael Kirkbride because I feel like maybe they could use new leadership at the studio, and I think I would only trust him to make a game set in Akavir tbh

I was thinking one that takes place in the years between the dragon break and reman would be cool because that is nearly a 400 year period which is the length of the 3rd era

Throw ‘em in a hot pink rectangle too. Might as well have been a heart. 😂

Bro Scott is literally married and has a kid.

@@rylonharmon542 So did Edward II.

I’m pretty sure they are brothers.

@@7snake7 I think they are just really old friends