The all-new 2025 Forester. Look what love can do. 

A lot of truth to that.

Yea they pretty much destroyed sales of the once great forester by making it the slowest car in their lineup with no powertrain upgrade options.

Back? they never went away

That's the trend these days to have a large front grille like no tomorrow 😅

Oh, we're sorry - did someone tell you that your opinion actually means something here?

@@eskieman3948 I don’t understand your mindset. I’m simply expressing my opinion. Why would I care what others think? You wouldn’t have assumed I was seeking others’ validation unless that’s what you would do. Kinda pathetic in my opinion. But again, that’s just my opinion.

Doesn't matter unfortunately... the auto industry follows trends, and for some ungodly reason these tablet screens are "in". I did try it once in an Outback and it wasn't as bad as I was expecting, but I prefer the 'normal' screen in my '22 Forester.

I’ve no gripes with the screen functionally but it’s a bit garish and it collects dust.

You bought the car, did you not? Why would they change anything? Your money spent on them is an implicit endorsement of what they are doing as right. 🤔😉

@@p.rico11 I did and hated it so I sold it after 9 months. No more Subies for me until they fix that nightmare of an infotainment they have going on, they've lost a long time customer. Loved my older Subaru's pre giant screen, the new ones with it suck.

@@huie1983I have a 23 wilderness without the giant infotainment Any reason why ya didn’t get it in the first place? I opted against that giant touchscreen because literally setting has to be adjusted through the infotainment

My opinion on design: 1. I like that they've changed the roof racks to be more practical with flush rails! (for the exception of models with sunroof) 2. The middle of the car looks OK, I would say it looks quite generic 3. I really liked the trim at the bottom of the car, its a pretty good design! 4. The pattern inside looks cute To the old ppl who complain that they removed physical buttons: They actually didn't remove physical buttons, they just moved them. Majority of buttons located on steering wheel, a few on the driver's door and some near the tablet, some are also near gear stick. ALL PHYSICAL BUTTONS ARE PRESENT! You are not supposed to use tablet while driving! While driving you can only use it for: - maps/navigation - camera usage, eg while parking For ppl who afraid there could be problems as it's a new generation. They are NOT using new technology, so the chance of getting a problem is low. They've used this technology for years in subaru outback and now in crosstreck 2024. I personally like their changes, I think subaru have done a great job! (No I am not working for subaru, just personal opinion after test driving old forester and outback with new technology, i definitely wait for new forester)

I wonder if the HVAC can be voice controlled like in the Kia Sportage

I agree. I made a similar comment.

Physical buttons to adjust temperature with on screen adjustment for fan speed and vent direction control.

@@akradr still most of it is still on that touch screen.

I have the touchscreen in my Outback. Yes, it's occasionally laggy... But 99% of the time, it works great. Just hit auto and let it do it's thing... Occasionally hit the defrost button or change the temp... via the physical buttons. I think I've used the on screen climate functions 3 times in almost 20k miles? Not an issue.

That's about when I trade EVERY Forester - my 2014 probably has a few years left, lol.

We are actually losing 2 horsepowers here. Whoever designed this car has got to be planted there to sabotage Subaru. I honestly hate this car. Why do they have to make dumb decisions like this.

Needs a diesel turbo.

the forester needs to go on a diet, it looks chunky

How much HP do you need? If you can't drive this thing on the road without having to mash the gas, then you obviously don't know how to drive. This isn't supposed to be a sportscar.

It’s the vehicles first year, next year they are most likely gonna release a wilderness, and yes it has 2 less horsepower, but the rpm doesn’t max out at 5400 rpm but now at 3,300 ish rpm. There are improvements and downsides. Every vehicle goes through that

I wonder how they work in -20F weather like we're having today.

Agreed! I had a Crosstrek loaner with the giant touch-screen, and it took me forever to figure out the HVAC controls. Hated it.

I agree 100%. Not having knobs for the HVAC system is a deal breaker. I'll stick with my 2023 premium.

The touchscreen is actually not bad at all. I like the cleanliness it brings to the whole console

@@chuck5558 just had -70F here, worked fine. the buttons are large so easy to hit, and the bottom of the screen says on hvac so their always there.

I second this statement. It’s now a button 😅

You are not the minority. I think

Makes me appreciate my 2005 @@smellybearc7411

Totally agree - LESS TECH PLEASE and bring back buttons and dials - so much easier and less distraction. If I wanted all of that tech/computer screen nonsense, I would buy a TEsla and I will NEVER buy a Tesla. Simplicity and Utility Please. That is what Subaru Brand was built upon. Less electronics/tech means less maintenance costs equals happier RETURN customers.

And, bring back manual transmissions and train techs to drive manual vehicles!

This new one looks way nicer. Significantly improved interior too.

@@steve8803 we can agree to disagree

i agree w/you about the ford comment; ford does their interior RIGHT! subaru looks like it's coming along. i'm must "window shopping" right now :)

@LanaM-hi7fg the forester style you own has been around for over 5 years now. It's very dated. If you like it, that's all that matters. You're paying for it!

@@steveday2022that’s about the only thing ford does right 😂

it's what focus groups wanted

yes, I love dual monitors

Agree, plus the UI of this touch screen looked like a port from Android phone UI in 2010

a tablet with werid buttoms around it, made it looking even worse

Maybe so, but Superbowl Sunday is coming--you could sit in your car and watch the game!

And Solterra is a Prius

@@paraldaspassion a Solterra is a Toyota BZ4X with six stars slapped on front, some plastic, and a fancy button that reads "x-mode" (relax I know there's a few other differences but who are we kidding?)

Ugly, looks to me more like a Mitsubishi...

This is all about global awareness-which is of course bullshit.Same reason they cancelled the STI-too much power and capability for normal humans.

As a WRX owner, I agree with the second part. But WRX is not yet a civic. I would fear it becoming one in the near future

EXACTLY

Same here. When it comes time to replace my 17 XT, if the Forester is still not carrying the 2.4 turbo like in the outback XT, then I'm changing brands.

Seems like 90% of the population and the automotive press prefer physical controls, but the designers don't listen.

Bingo.

…as interpreted by Toyota

I think some people are forgetting that Toyota does have a notable stake in Subaru….remember the Solterra and the what’s it called? Oh! The BZ4X! 😅

So true…even the shape of their logo! At first glance you will think it’s a Ford.

It ain’t ford explorer it’s like a hybrid like I saw on Google. It’s also like the Toyota RAV4 I wish Toyota made the Rav3. Subaru made the best cars

My '16 Forester is a work of art compared to this thing.

Exactly…nothing bad better happen to mine in the next 5 or so years because I don’t want whatever this is 😂

Agee. It looks to be the same screen as in the current Outback. Many of the functions on the Outback screen are buttons on the current Forester. My neighbor has complained a few times about having to go through a couple of screen changes to do things like turn on the heated seats.

What?

it’s for average drivers and moms dude.

It’s not like you will buy one.

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@@Ittou-Ogami you said it right, right on target

Subaru did announce that there will be a Wilderness and hybrid version coming soon

Also a VW.

It’s a bad thing.

@@streamingvideo6654what’s a VW?

@@oyoyoyo7624 Volkswagen

Childish.

Wait for 3rd quarter next year.......

I would hope it would be the 2.4 turbo

Agreed; it used to be that the "next year's model" became available in the second half of the (preceding) year. Nine months ahead is a bit early!

can't wait for the 6840000450327525378573656234538576 Subaru forester coming out in June

You gotta understand - on RU-vid, there are a large amount of Subaru haters that get off by just bashing the hell out of the cars. Most of them will tell BS stories about cars they never owned, ask whether problems have been resolved that were resolved ten years ago, or just spew childish BS about cars they have no experience with, and never had any intention (or money) to buy. Yet, none of these bedwetters can explain why Subaru's sales continue to climb every year, or why Consumer Reports continues to rate Subaru as one of the safest and best cars in the market.

this looks like gen2 to you??. i can appreciate the exteriors of gen1-3. but, i wanna see what the Ioniq XRT is looking like. to be fair, i was just googling how to get new gen seats into a pre 2013 model 😅. interior amenities & stylings are what i like on this. i think the front grill will grow on me. i like the rear taillights. but the silhouette? nah. the contour above the tires? double nah. will we ever get another robust turbo? 🤷🏾‍♀️ a 2006 XT model was my first Forester experience. one day there may be an EV version with enough torque to make a new Forester FEEL how they used to🤞🏾

“not meant for high power”? you know there was a Forester STI before? do you know Subaru was once proud to make the Forester in a way that WRX & STI parts could be sourced for use in the Forester? you know many people LOVE the turbocharged XT models. it’s not cost effective, but for me, i loved driving the XT for road trips. i felt safer sitting so high up in a car on the highways. it gave me peace of mind that i could bolt faster than most cars whenever i needed it! i’m not a speed demon, but driving a turbo forester is likely the closest i’ve come to holding a handgun-their power makes people feel safe. weird analogy, i know😅. i’ve never touched a gun, which is why i want modern Foresters to provide me with the power & safety the classic models offer. to me, the spirit of •a vehicle that holds it’s own, nimbly & safely-a small SUV that feels like you’re driving car instead of a truck (the way they handle is a big one for me) •forester is: canopy/headroom/visibility, extensions of them being made with the outdoors in mind

Well, think twice before you jump into another vehicle - there are a lot WORSE infotainment systems out there than the Subaru's, and I'm not a great fan of their system. But, overall, my '22 Outback's system does pretty well for what it is. I did my homework before I bought our wagon, so I knew precisely what I was getting. No surprises.

Can Toyota do that?

@@JG90984 No. Don't listen to a flatulating cow.

😂

Yes! I love it!

我是SJ9，后悔没买SJG

@CarGuyismakingagamebepatient.dam😮

For what it's worth, we have the current Subaru Forester with the standard 2.5L boxer. We live in the Rockies and it pulls the mountain really well and is peppy from the start. I test drove the Outback with a 2.4 turbo and was frankly underwhelmed by it. 2.5L was smoother and quicker. All in my not scientific, humble opinion of course. But, that said, not seeing anything that would cause me to swap upgrade from the current model ... the 2025 upgrades are also a bit underwhelming.

@@nickcoleman Thanks for the comparison, Nick! I don't doubt the peppiness of the 2.5 Forester. I had one as a loaner for 3 days. It was a nice driver. However, I'm used to more power. Spoiled with a WRX early on. The Outback Wilderness XT with the 2.4 definitely had a smooth and strong pull. Not great, but it may have to do with the heavier weight compared to a Forester. But comparing 180 to 260hp in the same model, you'll feel it. Plus then the tuneability of that turbocharged motor.

@@chrisg3278 🤣 Forester vs WRX is like comparing a tortoise to the hare. I'd be spoiled as well.

I live in West Virginia and a non-turbo Subaru is dangerously slow to drive here with our hills. I have three Subies and all are turbo. I've been hoping for years that they'd bring back the XT but it seems that will never happen. Seeing the direction Subaru is taking the Forester aesthetically and performance wise makes me cherish my 2008 FXT even more.

⁠@@chrisg3278Oh man, this puzzles me. I love my 2019 Forester but it is sluggish. I loved the turbo engine of the Outback Wilderness loaner I had for a day.

I agree. They call it modernizing but I feel they just had no idea so they copied 1990s thinking people would call it “new”.

Love it too! Actually it’s a new pearl ish gray color called River Rock.

You must have owned an old Subaru

@@smellybearc7411 2009 SH model Forester, yes✨

Same here….2018 was last year of manual transmission

Same here!

Missed the chance. Subaru used to be awesome

What year is your touring

I do like my XT!

it’s nice. gen2 & gen3 are classic. i want to have a modded gen1 someday. you can customize the first 3 styles in so many cool ways! i want a gen1, and an XT turbo gen2 and an XT turbo gen3!,

THIS

I love my 2018 as well. Durning a recall repair my loaner was a 2021 Forester and it was awful.

Good lucjk with THAT....

You're looking at a mirror.