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This is our in-depth review of the 2024 all-new Porsche Panamera as Panamera V6 vs Panamera Turbo e-Hybrid (V8). We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 Launch Control preview
00:16 Porsche Active Ride suspension
02:18 Panamera Turbo vs Base design
04:28 Hydraulic entry and exit help
05:20 Length and wheels
06:13 Power figures and adaptive wing
06:47 Exhaust sound note
07:08 Engines
08:24 Interior with retro seats
10:13 Cockpit layout
10:59 Screens and interface
12:01 Rear executive seating
13:51 Trunk / boot
15:52 Launch Control Panamera V6 RWD
17:29 Motorway acceleration
17:41 Base air suspension drive
19:18 Assistance systems
20:46 Launch Control Turbo Hybrid
21:42 Turbo V8 driving
22:51 Active Ride driving feel
28:24 Price
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@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
►Subscribe here: ru-vid.com ►Also subscribe to our RU-vid shorts channel: ru-vid.com/show-UCmKVmuPc9wUlLuuhnIeP7_w ►Follow us on Facebook / Instagram / TikTok @autogefuehl ►Sustainability in the automotive industry documentary: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--8gNXlRGngA.htmlsi=bCdeJZORRHNcVmV2 00:00 Launch Control preview 00:16 Porsche Active Ride suspension 02:18 Panamera Turbo vs Base design 04:28 Hydraulic entry and exit help 05:20 Length and wheels 06:13 Power figures and adaptive wing 06:47 Exhaust sound note 07:08 Engines 08:24 Interior with retro seats 10:13 Cockpit layout 10:59 Screens and interface 12:01 Rear executive seating 13:51 Trunk / boot 15:52 Launch Control Panamera V6 RWD 17:29 Motorway acceleration 17:41 Base air suspension drive 19:18 Assistance systems 20:46 Launch Control Turbo Hybrid 21:42 Turbo V8 driving 22:51 Active Ride driving feel 28:24 Price #Porsche #PorschePanamera Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
@kreigerbailey3550
@kreigerbailey3550 3 месяца назад
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 👑🇯🇲🔥💥🌟⭐💯💎
@openranks4519
@openranks4519 3 месяца назад
“And if I hit the switch, I can make the assss drop!” 😎
@kiabtoomlauj6249
@kiabtoomlauj6249 2 месяца назад
One of the few times I've seen a very professional, NEUTRAL car reviewer. I giggled when, at the very end, you politely but sternly said (essentially): a car built for a normal, human family... costing a quarter of a million dollars? Is it really worthy it, all the technologies & bells & whistles notwithstanding?
@shakesnbake
@shakesnbake 3 месяца назад
The Leah meter was off the scale there!!
@jeffs6090
@jeffs6090 3 месяца назад
Yeah! Utterly adorable too!!
@tpolerex7282
@tpolerex7282 3 месяца назад
So cute!
@OeyAndrie
@OeyAndrie 3 месяца назад
Yes sir!
@RobertBondFilm
@RobertBondFilm 3 месяца назад
😅 Great ways to test the cars performance.
@4gideon
@4gideon 3 месяца назад
keep that in future drive presentations please 🙂
@kaijunjiang9763
@kaijunjiang9763 3 месяца назад
The adjustable suspension is incredible, not just for drive but also fun to watch.
@kinocchio
@kinocchio 3 месяца назад
More fun that Mercedes
@msm4445
@msm4445 3 месяца назад
Copied from BYD U9 sport car
@vadym8713
@vadym8713 3 месяца назад
they sure made it adjustable from remote just for free marketing. Basically stole Mercedes idea )
@msm4445
@msm4445 3 месяца назад
@@vadym8713 it’s rather the BYD idea one year ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EydOYoK0Wkk.htmlsi=8ukhi_D0kVOdCzsY
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
Then you can say that BYD actually copied Mercedes from 6 years ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XylS3HLKQ0I.html And even 10 years ago, the S-Class Coupé had this tech: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g-2ARvGeAXc.html
@derekwilson3366
@derekwilson3366 3 месяца назад
Fantastic automotive journalism! Well done guys you make a great team!
@qledd14
@qledd14 3 месяца назад
Wow, at the very start I was not able to believe what I see. And then Thomas with the phone was shaking the car every direction ,amazing.
@NYCYankLeeds
@NYCYankLeeds 3 месяца назад
Modern lowrider
@danielsmith7023
@danielsmith7023 3 месяца назад
This car will be very popular in East LA.
@eethkoth4872
@eethkoth4872 3 месяца назад
😂​@@danielsmith7023
@seansiew5629
@seansiew5629 3 месяца назад
the Maybach GLS is the first one with the bouncy suspension
@blazesmooth5573
@blazesmooth5573 3 месяца назад
@@seansiew5629 The maybach GLS doesn't have individual adjustable suspension, their calibrated whearas the panamera can do it on every wheel. Also the GLS isn't the first one to have that feature
@ChR0nos_7734
@ChR0nos_7734 3 месяца назад
Citroen did hydropneumatic suspension 30-40 years ago
@tpolerex7282
@tpolerex7282 3 месяца назад
The best auto journalist to review this technological and lovely tour de force!
@Clarity520
@Clarity520 3 месяца назад
Not gonna lie I looked at the thumbnail and thought it’s the new GR 86 only to find out it’s actually the new Panamera after reading the title😂
@jacobnerona3344
@jacobnerona3344 3 месяца назад
Bro fr thing looks like the gr86
@charlesYoungbae
@charlesYoungbae 3 месяца назад
my thoughts exactly!
@fmmnta
@fmmnta 3 месяца назад
Same herr
@charlesYoungbae
@charlesYoungbae 3 месяца назад
looks like a jacked up GR86
@Kingofthehill84
@Kingofthehill84 2 месяца назад
Just buy G86 with less money and use extra money for gas, insurance, modification, etc 😅😂
@gto6254
@gto6254 3 месяца назад
Ha ha, that must be the best start of an Autogefühl video ever, congrats Thomas and Leah! Let's go!
@cristhangel1
@cristhangel1 3 месяца назад
Your attention to detail is superb!
@TheMartzyanu
@TheMartzyanu 3 месяца назад
1:30 looks like CGI! :))
@thamingwenya6573
@thamingwenya6573 3 месяца назад
Good team! Also always reliable Journalism I enjoy every review ! Please keep Going!
@chrisdblue
@chrisdblue 3 месяца назад
That suspension is amazing! I thought it was a joke at first but that’s so crazy
@googleuser3007
@googleuser3007 3 месяца назад
OMG! I can’t imagine replacing any part of that suspension. I owned a 2007 Mercedes SL 550 and the ABC hydraulic suspension pump let go-there was fluid all over my engine- and my driver side rear strut needed replacing. Thank goodness the ABC pump was still under warranty. However, struts are not warranty items. It cost me nearly $3,800. That was just one strut. As soon as that extended warranty expired, I sold that car.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 3 месяца назад
Got to love Lea's enthusiasm! 😂
@General_Crock
@General_Crock 3 месяца назад
Dear Diary- Today I discovered the word 'puristic'. Also, that I need a Panorama. With 19 inch wheels. It's been a good day.
@AjuVignesh
@AjuVignesh 3 месяца назад
Congrats Thomas and Leah! You guys are awesome. As usual, fantastic review.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
Thanks 🙏 please recommend!
@timothycheuvront8284
@timothycheuvront8284 2 месяца назад
I love your driving reviews because they are so comprehensive. Thanks for your input and impressions!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 2 месяца назад
Cheers! Please share our channel!
@bscott77
@bscott77 3 месяца назад
Love this car, going to sit and watch this now, was going to go to bed 😂
@_miguel_tenorio
@_miguel_tenorio 3 месяца назад
Go to bed
@Fitbrit88
@Fitbrit88 3 месяца назад
That active suspension would be great for clearing over debris and homeless people in our rapidly approaching dystopian future!
@chubaoyolu6728
@chubaoyolu6728 3 месяца назад
Lol. Love the "Leah meter"! 🤣🤣🤣. Great video 👏👏
@rodriguezahr
@rodriguezahr 3 месяца назад
This is THE BEST car review intro I’ve ever seen hands down. PRICELESS is the word. ❤😂🎉 Please include Lia Meter more frequently on your videos, she’s amazing.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
👍👍👍😂
@danielpfister6774
@danielpfister6774 3 месяца назад
Excellent review ... perfectly balanced combination of first describing a car's features and then sharing its driving experience! Also, you and Leah are definitely the new "power couple" for creating super fun car content on RU-vid 🤓. Thanks again and cheers from Colorado!
@btpp12
@btpp12 3 месяца назад
Amazing review😊
@davidpeterkin1237
@davidpeterkin1237 3 месяца назад
Excellent car review...one of your best...danke
@Blondul11
@Blondul11 3 месяца назад
Nice and detailed review as always :)
@kinisiayoube4449
@kinisiayoube4449 3 месяца назад
The new Porsche Taycan and Panamera are the best sedans in the world
@izzo2271
@izzo2271 3 месяца назад
I'm not a Porsche fanboy but I have to admit it too. Definitely!
@workhard5838
@workhard5838 3 месяца назад
fucking insane, porsche did really really good with the facelift.
@JohnyMcNeal
@JohnyMcNeal 3 месяца назад
This is a new model, not a facelift.
@robloxcreator437
@robloxcreator437 3 месяца назад
ugly ngl
@procrastinatingrn3936
@procrastinatingrn3936 3 месяца назад
@@JohnyMcNealthink he’s joking because they look very similar
@hayashishark7378
@hayashishark7378 3 месяца назад
​@@JohnyMcNealPorsche calls it that, but it really is largely the same vehicle, though updated in many ways.
@point4894
@point4894 3 месяца назад
Open cupholders in central console just horror
@user-sf7kl9uh7k
@user-sf7kl9uh7k 3 месяца назад
I'm so glad my first view of this car was from to your review
@disarchitected
@disarchitected 3 месяца назад
1:30 I remember being wowed by the Bose Air Ride demo, must have been 20 years ago now, when I was still a teen. They said it was too heavy and expensive for the real world. It’s finally on a production car! Amazing! I wonder if this version will hop small obstacles? Lol.
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 3 месяца назад
"IT´s ALIVE" obviously - great review combined with a great car. Thank you
@geraldhaas
@geraldhaas 3 месяца назад
Tolles Review, danke. Welche Farbe hatte der Turbo?
@sarpongKyei
@sarpongKyei 3 месяца назад
Well, I guess I’ll buy one in 5 years after a huge chunk of the price has been taken off 😂. It’s always lovely to see you both driving 😊
@jpkc86
@jpkc86 2 месяца назад
Damn Porsche and Autogefühl.. ya'll have made me literally desire a sedan!
@Blazko612
@Blazko612 3 месяца назад
THIS IS MY DREAM CAR ! PERIOD !
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
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@1111ALM
@1111ALM 3 месяца назад
No one on RU-vid does automobile reviews as good as these guys
@dr-ok3sn
@dr-ok3sn 3 месяца назад
180.000€ for the Turbo actually isn't that much compared to the S 63 E starting at 208.000€ otherwise great review as always!
@danieloprea84
@danieloprea84 Месяц назад
Great car and great review. Good job Thomas!
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@autogefuehl Месяц назад
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@howardturner2905
@howardturner2905 Месяц назад
Thank you for this excellent review of my dream car (turbo E/H).
@kchimusaru
@kchimusaru 3 месяца назад
This is amazing!
@Veyron1967
@Veyron1967 3 месяца назад
Fantastic review as always. Porsche should patent Leah's scream as the Sport mode default sound. :)
@MadeInGefle
@MadeInGefle 3 месяца назад
I never liked the exterior of the Panamera Sport turismo, this one looks siiick! Ultra luxury slick design
@SuperSlimshady1995
@SuperSlimshady1995 3 месяца назад
Whaaaat? No more Sport Turismo??? Come ooon, it was way way cooler than the classic version. Shame on you Porsche!
@WayApp
@WayApp 3 месяца назад
Thrilling comparison
@sparks4533
@sparks4533 3 месяца назад
great detail and of course, the Leah meter.
@youngbeast168
@youngbeast168 3 месяца назад
Design is very good in my opinion. Sporty and classy at the same time. Just like panamera should be. Great job Porsche
@ksc8168
@ksc8168 3 месяца назад
Huge thumb up for the first 20 seconds.👍
@iCharls
@iCharls 3 месяца назад
Great review
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
🙏🙏🙏
@DayanidhiTorrisi-iu5ie
@DayanidhiTorrisi-iu5ie 3 месяца назад
Love those vegan seats! You two make the best team, really enjoying your reviews!! 😎😆🙌🙌
@nicholascotton184
@nicholascotton184 3 месяца назад
Very good ,objective reviews thanks . Ride & noise are as important as power & handling in the real world of UK roads .
@koochie88
@koochie88 3 месяца назад
Is the Leah Meter an optional extra on all Panameras ?
@SDav21
@SDav21 3 месяца назад
I love how with Porsche it feels like the engineers still rule whereas with some other German companies (cough Mercedes cough), the engineers have no say and it's just cost cutting. Love this company and their engineering approach to making cars. This is why I fell in love with German machines. The engineering stood out. Now with some of the brands it no longer does. So well done Porsche. Don't stop being masters in engineering.
@msm4445
@msm4445 3 месяца назад
Technology copied from the Chinese sports car BYD U9 that was released one year ago. That one can even jump and drive with only 3 wheels. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EydOYoK0Wkk.htmlsi=hYWlkZYIbQdStrpn
@kosmasliaros
@kosmasliaros 3 месяца назад
Simply Amazing!!!
@Jayjayjoe
@Jayjayjoe 3 месяца назад
Really nice to still see manufacturers bringing beautiful V8s to the market.
@darius2640
@darius2640 3 месяца назад
will this lowrider function wear out suspension rubber parts quickly?
@dcDOC19
@dcDOC19 3 месяца назад
The best gentlemen sport sedan... Absolutely gorgeous.
@Roy-qn2ie
@Roy-qn2ie 3 месяца назад
What a great car also i find the Leah meater a nice addition especially seeing it has added to the review quality :D
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
👍😁
@sambowks
@sambowks 3 месяца назад
That suspension blew my mind
@carlosorff
@carlosorff 3 месяца назад
This is really sick. Especially the response time.
@AlpineBoysClub
@AlpineBoysClub 3 месяца назад
Great review as always Thomas! I also prefer the gasoline models as eHybrids are heavier and less "purist" as you mentioned. I think the sweet spot is the GTS (I heard they'd announce in coming summer) but my concern is lack of the Active Ride system. I assume that performance wise a GTS and 4eHybrid would be comparable (even though v8 will be much more of an engine), while the 4eHybrid will offer the Active Ride. Turbo eHybrid will solve all the problems (v8 with Active Ride) but I think that it's too overpriced for a Panamera. What would you recommend between GTS and 4eHybrid? (4S eHybrid won't be available in my country). You said you'd rather get the base Panamera for the more purist driving, does that mean you feel like the Active Ride is not worth it (hence the pure v8 GTS will be the best choice?). Thank you always!
@johnssmith4005
@johnssmith4005 3 месяца назад
@Porsche this should be the look of Panamera for the years to come it's just perfect !
@mohammadsohrabi7474
@mohammadsohrabi7474 3 месяца назад
the acceleration is mind-blowing🤯
@hitschi2275
@hitschi2275 3 месяца назад
Fantastisches Auto 💫✌️
@35ze4ir
@35ze4ir 3 месяца назад
14:54 I love this channel lmaoo
@disarchitected
@disarchitected 3 месяца назад
I lol’d at that bit as well. 😂
@ZetaReticuli_1
@ZetaReticuli_1 3 месяца назад
That intro! ❤
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
👌
@tylerdred
@tylerdred Месяц назад
This guy has some real ASMR quality
@shuaibshariff2797
@shuaibshariff2797 3 месяца назад
I am thinking that Leah is more (even much more) interesting than the Panamera with the jumping suspension LOL
@freddiecarr7602
@freddiecarr7602 3 месяца назад
Gotta Love It!
@Nmh86
@Nmh86 3 месяца назад
Great aggressive design, I remember Audi development for this type of suspension systems for the A8 in 2018.
@MStanonik
@MStanonik 3 месяца назад
This car is dancing, insane 😄
@iamfather2810
@iamfather2810 3 месяца назад
Finally, waiting review new panamera long long time
@josephiousbrosif
@josephiousbrosif 3 месяца назад
Wow absolutely beautiful. The car isn't bad either 😉
@Geersart
@Geersart 3 месяца назад
incredible
@ClubPorschedelOuest
@ClubPorschedelOuest 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@therealevasquez
@therealevasquez 2 месяца назад
Sold!! This Mexican is getting one!! Hitting switches in the Porsche!!
@screamingiraffe
@screamingiraffe 2 месяца назад
The reason I return to Porsche is the service, the car is a no-brainer, but the service is exceptional, unmatched. Just make sure you can afford it before diving in
@teamkolumbix1718
@teamkolumbix1718 3 месяца назад
Thomas thank you! Regards to Leah) and welcome both to London / Windsor)
@edjohn4590
@edjohn4590 3 месяца назад
You guys are so cute together 😄
@maxaudi2804
@maxaudi2804 3 месяца назад
Amazing fun suspension
@razorworks111
@razorworks111 3 месяца назад
Not a big fan of this version, previous generation was more classy in wagon form
@pouyameykhosh5124
@pouyameykhosh5124 3 месяца назад
Wow the grey one with monochrome porsche badge looks extremely good.
@PaulMeier-cu3ds
@PaulMeier-cu3ds 3 месяца назад
Great to see the detailed comparison between the “base” model and the €250k version. By the sounds of it I could get 5 Smart Brabus #3s for this price. There must come a point where you drive this sort of brand simply to show that you can rather than for any measurable practical advantage. The V6 and V8 are marvels of engineering, but already start to sound much as the horse and buggy did in around 1910. I wonder whether depreciation will be an issue.
@clubbizarre
@clubbizarre 3 месяца назад
i was not expecting some yelling and shrieks of pleasure at the beginning.
@cunn9305
@cunn9305 3 месяца назад
What is the spec of the Shark Blue Panamera ?
@Duramaxcho
@Duramaxcho 3 месяца назад
We need more of Leah lol
@grekhora
@grekhora 3 месяца назад
Priceless indeed!! 😂
@openranks4519
@openranks4519 3 месяца назад
“And if I hit the switch, I can make the assss drop!” 😎
@krisianzavalani
@krisianzavalani 3 месяца назад
Thomas one suggestion which I would love that I havent seen anyone do it... When reviewing Plug-Ins no one ever mentions or tests them with 0 battery or mention if the system allows a bit of battery at all times so you can maintain full power in long trips for example. I think you were the only one mentioning it once on a porsche but cant remember which video was and I think you should give that information on every Plug-In. It would be fantastic as you can not find it anywhere even from the manufacturer.
@miquel991
@miquel991 3 месяца назад
Hi, I have the 2023 Panamera 4s e-hybrid for 9 months now. Battery is still the former one (so less powerful), but I think it will be the same in both cases. You always have the boost function available, even when it shows "0 Km" (so empty) in electric. In sport & sport +, it charges the battery while going, up to a 80% (if you drive enough time, of course). In a 500 Km trip, I started with empty battery: it was from Germany to Brussels, and in the German motorways, I was in Sport mode, changing to hybrid when arriving to Belgium. Looking at the stats, I did 70 Km in electric motor (fully charged: I get around 50 Km). Regards, Miquel
@krisianzavalani
@krisianzavalani 3 месяца назад
@@miquel991 Hi Miquel, Thank you so much for clarifying I have always been curious for Plug Ins as no one ever gives this type of info on the review. Enjoy your car! Cheers, Kris
@csabafazekas3619
@csabafazekas3619 3 месяца назад
Loving the Astra H headlights.
@theseb1979
@theseb1979 3 месяца назад
Leah meter generator would be great instead of fake cabin noise
@SM-qo9gr
@SM-qo9gr 3 месяца назад
This kinda "new" gen looks so much better. New angular look of the front bumper lines make it so much serious and badas*
@Techinvestor567
@Techinvestor567 3 месяца назад
That suspension is absolutely crazy😂
@sinemcelik2161
@sinemcelik2161 3 месяца назад
Can you use accelerometer ?
@tylerdred
@tylerdred Месяц назад
The Autogefuhrer!
@vimalb8727
@vimalb8727 3 месяца назад
As an encouragement would be great if Leah does a full review of a car...We need more Women being part of cars
@edysinsimon8646
@edysinsimon8646 3 месяца назад
My absolute favorite sports sedan in the market today!
@alexeyp8864
@alexeyp8864 3 месяца назад
Awesome :)
@nelsonleeroy
@nelsonleeroy 3 месяца назад
Animal free interior!! Retro fabric! AWESOME. Does it exist with ventilated seats?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 месяца назад
👍 that not afaik but the fabric stays cooler anyways
@disarchitected
@disarchitected 3 месяца назад
21:37 Well saved there sir!
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