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The Allegations of Sienna Mae | A TikTok Nightmare 

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Today we're documenting the rise of a TikTok superstar, once beloved by over 15M followers. Join me as we go through the timeline of Sienna Mae's many non-apologies and responses to the allegations made by fellow TikTok creator Jack Wright over the course of the past year.
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who is sienna mae gomez - 4:10
sienna and jack's relationship - 6:50
merch controversy - 9:10
the first allegations - 12:16
sienna's first response - 14:15
the video/sienna's second response - 16:48
dance break - 24:47
jack's testimony - 27:57
aftermath - 34:37
sienna and her lawyer go on a barstool sports podcast - 36:44
conclusion - 44:42
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@jaubrey
@jaubrey 2 года назад
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@CommentCop
@CommentCop 2 года назад
ratio
@ameliah3496
@ameliah3496 2 года назад
Hi
@s0mbra214
@s0mbra214 2 года назад
released 1 min ago but it doesnt show on your youtube account????
@NotAYoutuber570
@NotAYoutuber570 2 года назад
how many VPN's do you have?!
@JChris143
@JChris143 2 года назад
Dude your vids are so good, Keep it up
@shannonbananan8520
@shannonbananan8520 2 года назад
Jack: she assaulted me Sienna’s legal team: people just hate to see a girlboss win😩✊✨
@strawtifulbonnie9363
@strawtifulbonnie9363 2 года назад
Basically... It's fucking sick how she literally got away with this with such ease without facing any serious consequence. Favouritism at its peak
@quietworld2267
@quietworld2267 2 года назад
Fucking annoying how Sienna's like "I can do no wrong, I'm YOUNGGG"
@a.k.emerson424
@a.k.emerson424 2 года назад
@@strawtifulbonnie9363 nepotism is not the word you're looking for.
@strawtifulbonnie9363
@strawtifulbonnie9363 2 года назад
@@a.k.emerson424 sorry, favouritism. That's the right term
@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888
@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 2 года назад
@@strawtifulbonnie9363 dw she hasn't gotten away with it God's watching
@principessalily
@principessalily Год назад
Jack tearing up and saying "I don't know if she'll ever be sorry. I don't know if she'll ever learn from what she did, or ever admit what she did." just killed me inside. That's the worst place to be in. Someone changing your life forever in such a scarring way and wondering if they even care. If it'll even matter.
@fadalerabrasool3563
@fadalerabrasool3563 Год назад
it turns out to be true because sienna literally flipped her middle finger while lip synching I hope they cancel and they can kiss my ass in her official return video to youtube
@SCARaw
@SCARaw Год назад
sad
@adolfogarzachaires394
@adolfogarzachaires394 Год назад
there's something odd about that but can't put my finger on what exactly, the whole thing just sees odd to me
@CookiesTriedToEatMe
@CookiesTriedToEatMe Год назад
@@adolfogarzachaires394like he's lying or that she's weird? Or something else?
@adolfogarzachaires394
@adolfogarzachaires394 Год назад
@@CookiesTriedToEatMe i just cant put my finger on exactly what But the whole thing just seems odd to me, dont know why tho
@MaddieMittz
@MaddieMittz Год назад
Imagine Jeff Dahmer apologizing to the relatives of his 17 victims by breakdancing in the courtroom
@duchessnoor
@duchessnoor Год назад
“Every one of those 17 were their own individuals, and in the spirit of their individuality, I want to do my part in honouring them by hitting the gritty 😔🕺✨” - Jeffery Dahmer
@EddieHawkinsII
@EddieHawkinsII 11 месяцев назад
…that would be the single greatest thing ever caught on film, next to Charles Nelson Reilly having Gene Rayburn give him a piggyback ride.
@SirSmilingPhantom
@SirSmilingPhantom 11 месяцев назад
Clearly not comparable 😂😂 🤦🏻‍♂️ someone’s been watching Netflix too recently fs
@SnippetSphere_1
@SnippetSphere_1 10 месяцев назад
Lmfao Jeff Dahmer was dismembering and eating his victims... Not really comparable to this whole situation being talked about here... but Okay... 🤣😂
@SnippetSphere_1
@SnippetSphere_1 10 месяцев назад
How do 265 people like this comment damn 🙈
@oskarneuburger6809
@oskarneuburger6809 Год назад
Partner rape is not easy to talk about, and men being raped by women is not easy to talk about. I can't imagine how hard it was for him to come out about this, especially in front of millions of people. My heart goes out to the kid, he's so young and having to put such a personal thing out to everyone. I hope he's able to heal
@dashdashdash_
@dashdashdash_ 9 месяцев назад
In some countries both partner and male rape don't even get recognized as a rape by law, it's so disheartening to hear of such stories but thank god he was able to tell his and be met with support.
@pilotwhaleproductions5880
@pilotwhaleproductions5880 8 месяцев назад
@@dashdashdash_some? In almost every country the threshold of heterosexual s/a is much higher for males than females (and the sentencing much more lenient for female perpetrators) such that its functionally not a crime.
@AstralAnubes
@AstralAnubes 3 месяца назад
Fr definitely when everyone treats men getting SA as a joke or not a real thing 😂 like if this situation was reversed & it was her asleep the guy would be bruised & in jail instantly I hate society
@whichwitch96
@whichwitch96 2 года назад
I can't believe people born in 2004 are old enough to have scandals Edit: please can all the 2004 babies stop freaking out in the replies. This was a joke about me feeling old not about y'all being children. I'm fully aware someone born in 2004 is now an adult 💀
@nobodysfavourite6953
@nobodysfavourite6953 2 года назад
I feel you
@laneythelame
@laneythelame 2 года назад
Lmao i feel the same
@ohitsstar1241
@ohitsstar1241 2 года назад
Its crazy to me that people who weren’t born when the SpongeBob Movie dropped are committing crimes against humanity
@Rampala
@Rampala 2 года назад
Yeah, that's the year I graduated high school. 😂
@summerjolie783
@summerjolie783 2 года назад
theres 13yr old in a scandal on tiktok how r u surprised 😂
@khushiiyengar1424
@khushiiyengar1424 2 года назад
the fact that she made a dance video in response to her allegations is baffling. Edit: OMG COLLEEN BALLINGER
@Neillan
@Neillan 2 года назад
But not at all out of line, with her line of thinking. These people simply cannot be taken seriously!
@ajmorales5748
@ajmorales5748 2 года назад
She just want to create, she wants to inspire and post unedited photos of herself. If she could inspire one person, then she did what she was put here to do
@halgaucher6730
@halgaucher6730 2 года назад
@@ajmorales5748 tone deaf, she made an inappropriate clout seeking video in response to a SA accusation edit: oops
@ajmorales5748
@ajmorales5748 2 года назад
@@halgaucher6730 hmm seems you didn't get the joke
@halgaucher6730
@halgaucher6730 2 года назад
@@ajmorales5748 you right, didn’t get to the video part w/ the subtitles. Should have waited before commenting.
@TheManWithTheFlan
@TheManWithTheFlan 9 месяцев назад
imagine looking back on all this and thinking "wow this is the second worst apology video i ever saw" because that's the hellscape we exist in now.
@ashleysilver4295
@ashleysilver4295 8 месяцев назад
"The toxic gossip train..."
@TheManWithTheFlan
@TheManWithTheFlan 8 месяцев назад
@@ashleysilver4295 The worst part is that that song is kind of an earworm. Like, it is legit catchy when it has *no* right to be and it makes me so mad
@ashleysilver4295
@ashleysilver4295 8 месяцев назад
@@TheManWithTheFlan exactly! Wonder if there's a lyric video
@aleahlrb
@aleahlrb 8 месяцев назад
@@TheManWithTheFlan Anytime I hear the words "toxic" and "gossip" no matter the context, my brain immediately starts that freaking song. My mistake for watching so many reaction videos about it, thinking I'd forget about the song in a week.
@Kristianalexis1
@Kristianalexis1 6 месяцев назад
@@TheManWithTheFlanI know 😂 It pops into my head constantly
@shmem7
@shmem7 9 месяцев назад
“Worst response to any controversy I’ve ever seen” Colleen Ballinger: *takes out ukulele*
@orionbarnes1733
@orionbarnes1733 Месяц назад
every dance needs a song
@misskyliesue
@misskyliesue 2 года назад
I absolutely hate that her actions are referred to as "crossing boundries." No, she committed assault, point blank. I hate she basically got away with it.
@doityourselfbombs
@doityourselfbombs 2 года назад
I see what you mean, but since "crossing boundaries" in this situation refers to very clear physical/sexual boundaries, it makes sense to alternate the phrasing bc youtube and tiktok flag terms like "sexual assault"
@bruh-bh3kk
@bruh-bh3kk 2 года назад
@@doityourselfbombs if earning money off of sexual ASSAULT is more important then spreading awareness regardless of the means or repercussions then idk what to tell you.
@doityourselfbombs
@doityourselfbombs 2 года назад
@@bruh-bh3kk youtube flagging videos doesn't just mean they don't make money, it means the videos are suppressed and can't be used to spread awareness.
@bruh-bh3kk
@bruh-bh3kk 2 года назад
@@doityourselfbombs flagging is someone reporting the video and it wouldn't get shadowbanned it would either be age restricted or taken down completely, the reason they censor themselves is because they can be demonetized automatically for using keywords. So yeah it is about money.
@doityourselfbombs
@doityourselfbombs 2 года назад
@@bruh-bh3kk yeah but demonetization suppresses the video bc then youtube can't make money on it. jaubrey has actually talked abt this a few times.
@elizabethlindley6411
@elizabethlindley6411 2 года назад
The fact that she pretty much got away with it is crazy. She did NO reflecting and learned nothing, and you can tell she has no concept of how much damage she caused, or that she just doesn’t care. Probably the latter.
@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701
@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 2 года назад
Maybe this is one of those situations where the consumer is just as guilty, no? This really weird thing where people try to inject themselves into (often very young) people's lives on social media and demand they act a certain way is a really really really really really really big problem.
@suhiebhassan6535
@suhiebhassan6535 2 года назад
@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 well said 👍👍, they focus on others so they don’t have to think about improving themselves
@oldben444
@oldben444 2 года назад
She did get away with it... What...
@user-vq9rk6eb4d
@user-vq9rk6eb4d 2 года назад
Yeah, same with people like the Lopez brothers. They never actually face any real punishment, so theyll never learn. a social media shitstorm is nothing to them. theyre used to it atp
@sashdashdash6138
@sashdashdash6138 2 года назад
She got away maybe because the victim was a boy and the one who assaulted was a girl
@MoonlightCircus
@MoonlightCircus Год назад
I think the takeaway here is this girl VERY narcissistic, immature, and selfish. It's wild to me that she thought she was going to marry this guy when they HAVEN'T EVEN DATED. Also, that lawyer is wild. Just wild. I can't imagine what she was thinking participating in this video.
@thisismyyoutube1846
@thisismyyoutube1846 9 месяцев назад
💲💲💲
@ianbean1631
@ianbean1631 Год назад
Man. Hearing Jack's birth date really hit me. He's barely a month older than my little brother. Idk why but that just stunned me for a bit. I hope he's receiving the support he deserves right now.
@Mwstmrlnd
@Mwstmrlnd 11 месяцев назад
For me that's the problem with all of this. People this age should not be in these situations. They should not be international internet superstars with control over their own platform. They should not be in a situation where they're airing their interpersonal grievances for millions. This is fucking this generation up in a way we've never seen before
@ezio_auditore5425
@ezio_auditore5425 2 года назад
Just an FYI for those who aren't familiar with SoCal, Laguna Niguel is one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the nation. This girl without question comes from lots and lots of money. I think that explains a lot of her behavior, as she fits the stereotypical OC brat we all know in the area.
@mountaingoatnohorns
@mountaingoatnohorns 2 года назад
Sorry, I don’t live in California, what does ‘OC’ mean?
@ShaneAJM
@ShaneAJM 2 года назад
@@mountaingoatnohorns Orange County
@problemperson4221
@problemperson4221 2 года назад
wow so she came from money yet she still takes the stance of "oppressed woman of colour". absolutely insanity, not saying that rich pocs cannot be oppressed but that would definitely not be my rebuttal when im being accused of sexual assault allegations lol..
@dumbasses_R_us
@dumbasses_R_us 2 года назад
Yeah, I get the impression she's never been told "no" before in her life and was trying to force a relationship with him because it would have helped her influencer profile.
@Spaghettioops
@Spaghettioops 2 года назад
@@ShaneAJM I thought you meant original character, so I need to go touch grass
@YAKlSOBA
@YAKlSOBA 2 года назад
the thing that bothered me most about her ‘debunking jack wright’ video thingy, was her “why didn’t you report me immediately?” because there’s a lot of factors that SA victims go through these things such as some fearing that they wouldn’t be believed, some feared being hurt again, some were ashamed and some wondered if it was truly their fault that it happened. - sometimes, the age, gender or race comes into play, especially male survivors; they’re not usually believed so that’s why most kept to themselves. anyways, that “why didn’t you report me?” point was weak
@Neillan
@Neillan 2 года назад
She knew the likelihood of anyone in law enforcement taking him seriously in that situation was very low, and fully intended to use that advantage to avoid any repercussions. Sickening!
@GeneralNuisance00
@GeneralNuisance00 2 года назад
Plus some don't even realize that it's SA until many years after the fact. It took me 7 years to realize that A: there's a reason I can't remember much of my grade 7 year B: it's because my male classmates bullied me bc being a clearly mentally ill and ND 12 year old girl made me an easy target C: one of the ways they bullied me was through repeated SA, which I had written off as being gross as HELL but not SA (spoilers, it was SA). My brain was repressing the memories, which is why I can barely remember anything that happened at all that year
@tohaovershell
@tohaovershell 2 года назад
Exactly. SA is one of the most underreported crimes- this is a horrible argument. As a survivor myself I never had the strength to report because I didn’t want to be retraumatized by the legal system
@generichuman2044
@generichuman2044 2 года назад
He even said himself that at first he felt it was his fault for being too nice and giving false signals. I think a lot of people underestimate how much trauma can effect a person's mind. It's impossible to know how someone will react if they wake up one day and realise they have been assaulted or treated inappropriately
@sparkles7111
@sparkles7111 2 года назад
it really just screams that they have never been assaulted or hurt like that. they dont get it unless it happens to them. it took me 5 seconds after it happened to realize it was SA. i didnt report it because i was hurting so much and he as my friend, and i was a kid, so i was scared of not being believed and i was scared of the legal system.
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite 8 месяцев назад
Sienna Mae comes off like one of those pretty, popular "perfect" girls in high school who are so used to everyone obsessing over them that once they get rejected or they find someone who won't worship the ground they walk on, they lose their minds 😂
@morganfreeman544
@morganfreeman544 9 месяцев назад
I am absolutely not a victim of sexual assault; however, the way she gaslights, manipulates, and attacks people while trying just barely to maintain her image and "take it offline" so that she can hurt her victim more in private... Reminds me almost word for word, vibe for vibe of my ex. This is a hard watch. I feel so bad for Jack. Nobody deserves to be hurt like that, and I know firsthand that the emotional abuse immediately after the boundary-setting can make closure so incredibly hard to find. Jesus
@avrilynravenee5143
@avrilynravenee5143 2 года назад
I feel so bad with jack having his SA become a public discussion. I'm glad his friends stand behind him, but God this must've been a stressful situation for him
@Bioshocking12
@Bioshocking12 2 года назад
His body language in videos is heartbreaking. This broke a part of him and he barely has the language to talk about it.
@taylorthirlwall835
@taylorthirlwall835 2 года назад
same but I hope to god he gave them permission before ANYONE started talking about it
@afganno3385
@afganno3385 2 года назад
what getting your balls rubbed by somebody you are shagging anyways? i'd be more concerned about his friend who filmed it...
@wowimstillalive5878
@wowimstillalive5878 2 года назад
@@Bioshocking12 I was analyzing his body language in his big video addressing the whole thing, and I absolutely believe him - he’s gone through some shit in this whole situation.
@larajayne4934
@larajayne4934 2 года назад
I know 😭 you can see how much he is hurting and probably feels as though no one believes him (except his family and friends). This is the exact reason why so many males who have been victims of SA or even domestic A don't come forward because of the fear of not being believed and this needs to stop 😭 this is why the Johnny Depp case is so important, it really shows that males can be the victims of domestic A, SA or being falsely accused of said things 😞 it's so sad honestly because anyone can become a victim, male or female. Hopefully Jack can get the justice he deserves 💜☮️💐 my heart truly breaks for him!
@doclewis8927
@doclewis8927 2 года назад
To be clear: You don't need to have sex to sexually assault someone. That's NOT a requirement. No is no. And if someone's out cold, that's a no from the jump...in case anyone had any doubts...even if they're your partner. You can't touch someone sexually when they're out cold. Hell, even kissing him like she was, constitutes assault.
@ghodge82
@ghodge82 Год назад
Who, the Heck would be in a relationship with someone who would say No anyways lol
@hamburgerkiddo3319
@hamburgerkiddo3319 Год назад
@@ghodge82 Not everyone wants to have sex all the time. Hell, you as a person probably doesn’t wanna have sex all the time.
@roseyoung44
@roseyoung44 Год назад
@@ghodge82 Saying no to having sex doesn't mean that you do not love your partner. There are a myriad of reasons people refuse sex, and every single one of them is valid. If having a partner say no to sex immediately ruins your entire relationship, you need to take a good long look in the mirror and reevaluate some things.
@schmoopydooper9174
@schmoopydooper9174 Год назад
@@ghodge82 you dont date much do you
@khasualentertainment6734
@khasualentertainment6734 Год назад
@@ghodge82 oh my... umm it happens tf.. so if they say no u keep going zz
@destrious8133
@destrious8133 Год назад
Can't believe he essentially got stalked and she just got away with it, even with all the evidence. I feel terrible for him, I hope he gets the help he needs
@ademoss80
@ademoss80 Год назад
This story is just so heartbreaking. I can't even imagine being in Jack's shoes. Having to tell my own story in this way is so terrifying. The fact people keep calling it "crossing boundaries" is infuriating. A lot of people called him out for the cuts, it hurt my heart when I saw the cuts because to me it meant he had to collect himself or it was getting to be too much. I hope Jack is able to find some healing and peace. I hope she gets some help, if she doesn't I have a feeling she'll just leave a trail of people just like Jack in her wake.
@mangoiguess1650
@mangoiguess1650 2 года назад
Something that really bothers me about Sienna is how she throws around the fact she's a latina as a way to defend herself Using the fact latino/hispanic women tend to be sexualized to her favor As a latina myself this behavior is disgusting, she's using the struggles a lot of us deal with as a way to defend her literally committing SA, unacceptable smh
@burntarroz4333
@burntarroz4333 2 года назад
i got genuinely pissed off because as a latina myself, it bothers me so much that she uses it to make herself the victim.
@MinatheRaichu
@MinatheRaichu 2 года назад
@@burntarroz4333 Love your user, and as a fellow latina, we should claim her as a symptom of gender biases and beat it out of our community con la chancla. maybe el cinturon. idk. I hate it when people are like "As a member of x community, we don't claim them" when there is a real chance that the way they act is indicative of a deeper issue within said community.
@quietworld2267
@quietworld2267 2 года назад
What does race even have to do with this? She's bringing up unnecessary stuff about herself such as her "just turning 18" and her race to bring pity to herself.
@daisyslovebot
@daisyslovebot 2 года назад
and apparently she’s only a quarter latina
@infinitymixtapes9562
@infinitymixtapes9562 2 года назад
Not to mention she’s like 5% Latina
@celestedivinity2178
@celestedivinity2178 2 года назад
I earnestly hope Jack has a therapist and a strong support system. As someone who was stalked by an ex-boyfriend who was emotionally and sexually abusive, these events are DEEPLY traumatic and it took me years to even get a modicum of inner peace. I wish people understood that your crushes and romantic interests are WHOLE people with desires and boundaries. You aren’t entitled to anyone’s space unless you are given permission.
@generichuman2044
@generichuman2044 2 года назад
I hadn't heard of these people before the video but it seems like he has a good family and loving friends. They quickly came to his defence and them starting the conversation seemed to make him comfortable with sharing his story through videos. I just hope that if he has strong enough evidence he decides to go to the police or sue her
@Veryfreshveryflourish24
@Veryfreshveryflourish24 2 года назад
Yeah same. I still get dms from my ex bf after blocking him and he even has contacted me on whatsapp even when i blocked him.
@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644
@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644 2 года назад
>man suffers >typical woman: "HEY ITS ME, A WOMAN! ACTUALLY I AM THE ONE SUFFERING. IGNORE THE MAN IN THE VIFEO AND FOCUS ON ME"
@Veryfreshveryflourish24
@Veryfreshveryflourish24 2 года назад
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644 Uh no. It is good to have people sharing personal experiences. In case Jack checks his comments he may see that he is not alone and taken seriously. Not to mention theraphy is some good advice especially for victims of manipulative behavior. The og commenter never said to ignore Jack. She merely recounted her own experience in comment section of a video that is talking about the subject of assault. Please grow up.
@c.j.4180
@c.j.4180 2 года назад
I'm not familiar with either of them but that video of the poor boy is heartbreaking. I hope he gets far away from her and finds better people and happier days.
@fuzzymcwuffy10
@fuzzymcwuffy10 Год назад
As a victim of SA (I was 11 when my experience happened) I feel horrible for Jack. It’s horrible this happened to him REGULARLY.
@toadfingers
@toadfingers Год назад
Wow. I had such a similar experience with a guy who was supposed to be my ”best friend.” He kept crossing my boundaries just like this, but since he had been my best friend for years, I kept forgiving him. And every time I’d bring it up, he’d act like it was an accident or deny it or play dumb. Sometimes he’d own up to it, apologize (still have the texts🙃) and then do it again the next day. It’s been almost 2 years since I cut him off completely but the whole thing has really fucked me up. This shit is infuriating.
@dingolord9148
@dingolord9148 2 года назад
I’m glad you’ve been covering female predators, it’s been disgusting hearing defenders try and say they’d love this kind of stuff happening to them “if they were in the abused’s position”. Predators need to be called out and this social perception HAS to change
@JaimyW
@JaimyW 2 года назад
Bro did you have to say “female”? Really undercuts an otherwise valuable perspective.
@crumb6006
@crumb6006 2 года назад
​@@JaimyW Stop reaching
@dingolord9148
@dingolord9148 2 года назад
@@JaimyW your the exact person I’m complaining about if you take issue with the female part
@LeoScott
@LeoScott 2 года назад
@@JaimyW well what else did you want him to say? He’s talking about female predators, and uses the designation of female in order to separate that group from male predators.
@Subarashii_Nem
@Subarashii_Nem 2 года назад
@@JaimyW It doesn't undercut anything. Girl in this case is wrong because that implies younger women and woman isn't right because she was 16/17/18, maybe even before then, abusing him. Female is the umbrella term that a person who isn't a male is the abuser. You're really reaching here for no reason. This comment is perfectly fine. Neckbeards and incels use female as derogatory (for some bizarre reason) but people making a comment about female abusers use it because it encompasses the entire gender of any age, not just a specific age range like girl or woman does. Girl implies young, woman implies mature, female encompasses all. Make sense?
@sarahwillacker4135
@sarahwillacker4135 2 года назад
My heart fucking broke for Jack when he said she did things like this so regularly that he thought it was "normal" and he even blamed himself sometimes. No one deserves to go through this, I hope he's doing alright now.
@minisharkobites
@minisharkobites Год назад
The way my throat got caught up when he said it felt "normal" because as someone who was used constantly for their body, it feels so normal after it happening so often. I blamed myself for so long for staying in those relationships because it was so clearly manipulating. He shouldn't blame himself. Manipulators know how to keep those who are vulnerable in their grasp. I really hope he can heal from all of this.
@danijones8314
@danijones8314 Год назад
that’s all i could think when i first heard about this from mr. beard’s video. her defense was that she’s still young, well what about him? he’s so young yet he had gotten to the point where he felt like this treatment was normal. he’s going to carry this trauma forever. he definitely has a good support system in the friends & family who defended him, but it’s still going to take a lot to work through this. it’s so disgusting that an abuser like her is just allowed to continue her life without any consequences.
@rydz656
@rydz656 Год назад
He's gay, she was just a beard for him.
@livin.4711
@livin.4711 Год назад
@@rydz656 bruh what
@lucymolockian1849
@lucymolockian1849 Год назад
He made his money.
@MidnightSonnet
@MidnightSonnet Год назад
She wanted him, he didn't want her, and she wasn't okay with that. The little brat took every opportunity to "claim" what she thought was her's, even though she knew he hated it. She probably thought she could wear him down till he gave in. I'm so glad he didn't. Sad thing is, she probably won't lose enough followers to really make a dent in her bank account, so she'll continue to be a terrible person until serious consequences happen to her. My question is about her intentions to be with him. Were they genuine feelings she had (though very obsessive and possessive) or did she wanna get with him because the shipping her fans did of them brought her the most views? If they'd made it official, her ratings would've probably skyrocketed. It might be a bit of both. I get a lot of "I didn't get what I wanted, so I'm pissed" vibes from her. I hope Jake is doing okay. He seems like a genuinely nice kid. I'm glad his friends and brother are sticking by him.
@badumbum71
@badumbum71 Год назад
Hearing Jack talk about his experience is heartbreaking, you can tell he puts a lot responsibility on himself for what happened. I hope he's doing alright, I know it's very hard to work through things like this especially when the person hurting you gets away with little to no consequences
@olafowl5678
@olafowl5678 2 года назад
I get secondhand embarrassment when I see people as painfully un-self aware as sienna mae.
@trapadvisor
@trapadvisor 2 года назад
Yeah that’s who we’d all be if we didn’t have anxiety LMAO
@imjustapancake3188
@imjustapancake3188 2 года назад
@@trapadvisor or empathy.
@steamedhamlet
@steamedhamlet 2 года назад
Or as so deeply insecure...
@trapadvisor
@trapadvisor 2 года назад
@@imjustapancake3188 true
@littlelily831
@littlelily831 2 года назад
Right!? I'm cringing so hard I think I pulled a muscle.
@MADEbySOUL
@MADEbySOUL 2 года назад
Big kudos to the victim’s friends. This easily could have been a toxic “guys can’t be sexually assaulted” mentality. Some cases where female teachers prey on their male students had male classmates applaud the victim as if this was a stereotype frat boy conquest and not a crime or moral black hole.
@Nabiruuu
@Nabiruuu Год назад
It's unfortunate some victims cannot express their opinion because of societies toxic views
@BlueHazyDreams
@BlueHazyDreams Год назад
All women were victims of violent crime and all men wanted it. Where does that put the young women who wanted it but were way too young to consent and understand the repercussions, or the young men who were forced. Even more shame because you don't fit everyone's idea of a victim.
@tylerpendleton1980
@tylerpendleton1980 Год назад
Between this and Zoey Laverne I think the argument that "men can't be sexually assaulted" should be enough evidence to put that argument to bed for good
@svndwich977
@svndwich977 10 месяцев назад
@@tylerpendleton1980i feel like people know that, except abusers who’d deny it
@URFTBOUND4LIFE
@URFTBOUND4LIFE 9 месяцев назад
I think the problem is we've spent so much time telling boys about gaining consent and girls giving consent to protect women, we've neglected the male victims of harassment and abuse in the process. We should have left gender out of the conversation and talk about the importance of consent as a whole. That's why you have some girls thinking "he's a man, I can initiate contact and he'll like it" And men are too worried about looking like a weakling they would rather just take it . Women also need to GAIN consent as well and men have the right to revoke consent at anytime before or during.
@R3B1RTH452
@R3B1RTH452 Год назад
Hearing the pain in his voice, knowing that the only way that he could have some sort of relief, was to speak on something he probably wasn't ready to say, I can sadly relate.
@aramiku1837
@aramiku1837 8 месяцев назад
remembering how this used to be the most insane/worst "apology" ever... oooh colleen came for the crown with the ukulele the internet is NOT REAL
@JakeKoenig
@JakeKoenig 2 года назад
I think the fact that I've never heard of any of these social media "influencers" until this channel covers them is a sign that I'm doing something right in life.
@wakannnai1
@wakannnai1 Год назад
Same, I came here from moist critical. I have no idea who any of these guys are.
@5skdm
@5skdm Год назад
Me too
@optimistictraveller
@optimistictraveller Год назад
Haha, same. I didn’t even know who these “celebrities” were until this video popped up in my recommendations
@crystalmind6476
@crystalmind6476 Год назад
right like who is this girl-
@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkn3249
And it’s just confirmation that you are right for not knowing
@blackacidss
@blackacidss Год назад
This is ugh, disgusting. I was raped by my ex boyfriend, and yes I had sex with him before, kissed him, touched him, but when he raped me I said no, several times and he did not care, and just because we kissed before that doesn't mean it was consensual. There's no excuse, I hope he gets better from this terrible relationship, narcicist people are everywhere, and I am so glad he spoke about it after all, cause I can't imagine how difficult it was.
@BriarPatchNyra
@BriarPatchNyra Год назад
i'm deeply sorry that happened to you
@c.9858
@c.9858 Год назад
I got raped by my first girlfriend. As a man nobody really believes me and they tend to side with whatever story she came up with, I’ve been called all sorts of names and accused of doing all sorts of things, at one point I even got called the rapist. And while I cannot clear my name because of my sex I can get plenty of revenge by just moving forward with my life and being happy with my next relationships
@nessisanchez4455
@nessisanchez4455 Год назад
@@c.9858 I'm so sorry that happened to you
@ariadneschild8460
@ariadneschild8460 Год назад
@@c.9858 im sorry that happened to you, it happened to a friend of mine and she deliberately got pregnant, it's gross that people don't believe that it's possible.
@c.9858
@c.9858 Год назад
@@ariadneschild8460 while mine is bad at least I didn’t get her pregnant, I hope your Buddy turned out alright
@dancoroian1
@dancoroian1 9 месяцев назад
Lmao there is literally no difference between "upper thigh" and "crotch" in this context, can't believe she said that dead-ass
@mmerkley402
@mmerkley402 4 месяца назад
Narcissists can't handle rejection of any level.
@mads597
@mads597 2 года назад
“God gave me this platform for a reason” no honey, it’s just an excess of privilege and resulting arrogance
@0uttaS1TE
@0uttaS1TE 2 года назад
If there was a God, she'd already be struck down
@thelonleyUchiha1
@thelonleyUchiha1 2 года назад
God may have given it to her but she 100% ignored what he had in mind
@JeromeProductions
@JeromeProductions 2 года назад
yep
@infinitymixtapes9562
@infinitymixtapes9562 2 года назад
God: “ Keep my name out your FUCKING MOUTH”
@dbyspae122
@dbyspae122 2 года назад
@@infinitymixtapes9562 underrated
@nintendogh0st
@nintendogh0st 2 года назад
The entire podcast with her "lawyer" made me just feel so gross, none of them have any regard for Jack's feelings and how damaging this has been to him it's absolutely disgusting
@tylervanpeursem7627
@tylervanpeursem7627 2 года назад
That's why the "blood sucking lawyer" trope exists
@glowrillaz
@glowrillaz 2 года назад
I mean, they’re paid to defend her in every way even if they knew she was guilty. But i agree that it’s gross that they don’t sympathize with him and what he went through regardless of being sienna's team but im guessing they’ll probably get into trouble by her family and the company they’re working for if they did that.
@lisannawilfhelm5819
@lisannawilfhelm5819 Год назад
One word. Money. We get that it's disgusting, but I do agree with the comments here.
@Blackatchaproduction
@Blackatchaproduction Год назад
Because he's a man
@andrewtross
@andrewtross Год назад
he has a beach house in hawaii, i think his feelings will be fine after being groped by a hot girl. he's obviously gay otherwise this wouldn't be an issue. and i mean come on, he is obviously gay. listen to him talk for more than 5 minutes, and that hair? gay gay gay
@larunasoftpaw570
@larunasoftpaw570 Год назад
I’ve known girls who had a bad habit of getting too handsy with guys or other girls they were into and when they’d get told to stop would be like “but that’s my way of showing love! I have too much love to give!” Just like Sienna. Too many young women think they can get away with it. And sadly, many do.
@calilott275
@calilott275 9 месяцев назад
Someone should put her dance to Toxic Gossip Train.
@chuffbutler4186
@chuffbutler4186 2 года назад
That legal document was disturbing to hear read, using her race and gender to invalidate jacks claims is unbelievable
@tonybalony1811
@tonybalony1811 2 года назад
She was grasping at straws.
@rhaeven
@rhaeven 2 года назад
it's damaging to him as her victim and also damaging to other women of colour because some people are going to take real racism and sexism a little less seriously after seeing identity weaponised like this -_-
@realestsienna
@realestsienna Год назад
ethnicity* but yeah i know it was weird for her to do that
@grungekitty77
@grungekitty77 Год назад
I actually had to pause the video so I could just process how many frivolous buzzwords they used in that paragraph alone. It screamed "I have no real defense, so I'm using woke points instead"
@ThatGreenLED
@ThatGreenLED Год назад
I'm pretty sure its just to make the accusers look worse to the idiots on Twitter.
@janetandamocha7874
@janetandamocha7874 2 года назад
I worked as a sexual assault victim advocate for several years and male victims of sexual assault, particularly if the perpetrators are women, are so often shamed and ignored (when I say often, I mean ALMOST ALWAYS). I am glad people are talking about this, but I wish there were more real world consequences for her. She got away with sexual assault ON CAMERA. It is absurd.
@starcraft2own
@starcraft2own 2 года назад
What's an advocate? My mother used to own a company who's only goal was to find and help victims of sexual assault that for one reason or another couldn't get official help. Be it that they hadn't made a claim of assault or they weren't believed when they did. Can be any number of reasons. It's just that sexual assault victim advocate sounds weird to me, can you explain what that title means?
@janetandamocha7874
@janetandamocha7874 2 года назад
@@starcraft2own A lot of times sexual assault victims would come to the organization I worked for and I would work with them to get things like restraining orders, police interviews (if they wanted to report), being with them during rape exams, and being there to support them in court. The name does sound weird - still better than what my position was initially called - sexual assault advocate sounds...not so great...One of the positives about an advocate is that, unless they are a victim witness coordinator or something, advocates are not part of the judicial system or in any way run by the police. Outside of the legal advocacy, I would often help sexual assault victims who were within 200% of the federal poverty line apply for things like rent and energy assistance and work with them to get safe housing. It was really interesting and rewarding work, but I completely burned out and had to take a break from advocacy because it was very emotionally draining. Sorry that was so long!
@jermu8706
@jermu8706 2 года назад
@@janetandamocha7874 I was never taken seriously and my rapist is still out there. It's building an unhealthy rage towards women inside me, and I think it will end up violently if I read one too many of these cases where a woman is RECORDED committing sexual assault and gets no punishment.
@knixie
@knixie 2 года назад
When I was in elementary school I was sexually harassed and the councillor at the school said that boys don't get assaulted or harassed told me to be nicer to the girl and then dismissed me
@prettygoodpootis5133
@prettygoodpootis5133 2 года назад
@@jermu8706 I'm so sorry for what you have gone through. I hope you get the help you deserve. I hope it doesn't end in violence for you because that wouldn't help anyone but the rapist that got away scotfree. I wish you the best of joy in life!
@itskitt3237
@itskitt3237 11 месяцев назад
I have an ex that sexually assaulted and raped me regularly. He thought that because he could guilt me into letting him do it and because I consented the first time it was okay every time. It’s disgusting that anyone thinks that just because behavior is consented to and okay in one situation that it’s okay in other situations. I don’t care what the relationship is, you have to get consent every single time or it’s assault.
@carolinehughes3819
@carolinehughes3819 Год назад
Jack you are a brave young man as so many males don’t come forward (As a fellow survivor I applaud you, well done)
@burrowed3864
@burrowed3864 Год назад
You could’ve just said victims, you know? It’s not just men that don’t come forward.
@racerman9452
@racerman9452 2 года назад
Wtf, I almost fell out of my chair when you said she was born in 2004! She is literally a year younger than me and has a had a whole ass internet scandal, and I'm here still trying not to fail university
@tohaovershell
@tohaovershell 2 года назад
Dude I’m born 1998 and still trying to figure out school and career and stuff, don’t feel bad! I was also like what 2004!! It always baffles me just how young these tiktok people are. Like when I was 18 I was a whole child i could not handle that. My ego would be SO out of wack!
@ava_lou
@ava_lou 2 года назад
fr i was born in 2003 and am just trying to pass ochem, good luck on finals if they’re coming up for you!
@agarsrish
@agarsrish 2 года назад
Good luck to all of you!!
@redgarlicbred6228
@redgarlicbred6228 2 года назад
Hello fellow uni student! Here's to us not failing
@thepovdweller
@thepovdweller 2 года назад
Omg me too! Trying to pass my uni exams succesfully and she out there with predatory behaviour allegations😲. This world is crazy
@MadAliceInWonderland
@MadAliceInWonderland 2 года назад
"We didn't have sex." Is that the qualifier she thinks makes sexual assault legit? That's completely wrong, and it seems like she thinks that way.
@Alicia-kp8bg
@Alicia-kp8bg 2 года назад
Sorry if I sound ignorant, but wouldn’t sexual assault be committing sexual acts on someone without their consent (aka r*pe)? How is kissing an unconscious person sexual assault (not that I don’t agree with you!)?
@iovelii8831
@iovelii8831 2 года назад
@@Alicia-kp8bg i would say sexual assault is the prelude to rape. it's the (nonconsensual) sexual advancement that leads to the nonconsensual sexual act (rape, which involves penetration by definition). kissing can be very intimate and very sexual if you make it out to be, especially since it's normally something you only do with your significant other. and from what it looked like, she was very heatedly making out with him while he was unconscious, when they're only friends (there are *other* videos of them kissing, yes, but that's only in the tiktok scene. think of them as actors acting for a movie - they only kiss and act romantic on-screen, that's what's agreed upon. but, you don't see actors crossing these boundaries outside of the screen unless they're in an official, consensual relationship). the kiss was nowhere near innocent, it wasn't just a brief peck to the lips or cheek. she did it with intent, with her own "needs" in mind (her needs, not his, he didn't consent to it) and i'm sure if jack's friend wasn't present, she would have gone farther. and technically, she did, seeing how she broke into his home numerous times and slipped her hand down to his you-know-what while he was, again, unconscious. i only feel pity for jack at this point and it's crazy how sienna keeps trying to defend herself even when the evidence is clearly against her.
@HopeIsADrug11037
@HopeIsADrug11037 Год назад
yeah that's rape, not sexual assault (although I guess it's kind of a subcategory)
@shabnam414
@shabnam414 Год назад
@Skdkskdk Dkdjjdkdjd calm down. they just don’t fully understand what sexual assault is. thats all.
@MEGVTRON
@MEGVTRON 11 месяцев назад
yes
@kaitlin2150
@kaitlin2150 Год назад
I was SA'd by my then boyfriend on my 21st birthday when I was passed out. He was from a very affluent family and a part of a fraternity so to make any claims against him was beyond intimidating. It took me years to even wrap my head around what it was that happened even when it happened another time after followed by an attempt on a separate occasion. I am sure she thinks she did nothing wrong - they have kissed before and touched, maybe not in a sexual way, but they have been skin to skin. Just like my ex. But that doesn't mean that performing actions on someone - even if they have consented to those things before- when they cannot consent is not ok. It doesn't matter what age you are or what gender. This is exactly why the "me too"movement started. To give support to those who have been abused and are silenced by those with a great amount of power, money or influence. And for the lawyer to have the audacity to dismiss and diminish his claims because he did not file a report etc etc. is ridiculous. Not only is it blatant victim shaming/blaming but it's called the dark figure and even a freshman level criminology class will tell you that over half of SA and R go unreported for numerous reasons. And I feel for this young man. I was not believed that I was assaulted because I was told it wasn't " violent" or "typical R" and that it was by a boyfriend so I do "qualify" to be a "victim" or to be as upset as I am and just a bunch of other really crass things. I cannot even imagine for a young man to be SA'd because even the "typical victims," females, often have uphill battles to climb in order to be believed. I'm sure he has and is facing a lot of shit for coming out and saying what he did. It's not "flattering" or "cool" that this young women kept violating his boundaries.
@spencerdrumm2151
@spencerdrumm2151 Год назад
the editing in this is superb! Your narration is some of the best I've heard in the commentary community as well.
@cadeo.1265
@cadeo.1265 Год назад
I love her legal team’s reasoning behind Jack doing this. “Oh it’s just a bunch of 20 year old male white devils that hate to see a Latina girlboss win and nothing more.” I feel bad for him because there is probably nothing that will come out of this. But at least the internet knows that she seems like a gaslighting, disingenuous, and frankly awful person.
@blueismylove3128
@blueismylove3128 Год назад
It is absolutely disgusting when people who are guilty of the crimes they are accused of use this "it's because of my race excuse" because it affects the situations and how many people will actually believe victims when they are actually hurt because of their race/gender/etc. It just makes a complete mockery of a very real issue.
@BlueHazyDreams
@BlueHazyDreams Год назад
Supposedly you can only be racist against someone with no power, but this is a clear demonstration of having power if you ask me. I mean they say that's what SA is about, power.
@ouwebrood497
@ouwebrood497 Год назад
Interesting how the minority cards (woman of color) don't seem to be enough.
@djsierra777
@djsierra777 Год назад
It's a real shame though that her fans will probably never care. They're on her side because they like her content. No matter what she did they will continue to like her because they confuse liking her content for liking her. They were also not affected by this so they don't see the harm. And they're reason enough for her to keep making said content. It makes me sick to think about it but the fact is that she'll be fine.
@TheoF1
@TheoF1 Год назад
@@djsierra777 To this day they still try to defend her by using her blog post where she did everything apart from clearing herself in the slightest lmao
@s.tar.lin.g
@s.tar.lin.g 2 года назад
I hate it when influencers in these situations always act like the victims are to blame for not "keeping things a private matter" or not dealing with it personally - it is absolutely perfectly reasonable to want the influencer in these situations to have their fanbase understand what is going on, and the victims have no obligation to have to go face-to-face with their abusers in the process
@BlisaBLisa
@BlisaBLisa 2 года назад
yeah its weird how the only "respectable" options seem to be either go to the police and take matters to court, or shut up and handle it privately. I understand why someone wouldn't want to go to the police with this stuff and I can imagine it would be painful to see the person who hurt you being praised constantly by people everywhere you look bc they're famous so just telling the fanbase what they did is a pretty good middle ground
@shirox11
@shirox11 2 года назад
Everyone needs to be held accountable for actions and i feel people with a sphere of influence need to be held accountable by the people they influence as well as the law.
@introspectiveseraphim6251
@introspectiveseraphim6251 2 года назад
Unfortunately, as someone who was in Jack's situation, it's not just influencers.
@sourpatchordnance2249
@sourpatchordnance2249 2 года назад
She didn’t want to “take it offline.” She wanted her accusers to take it offline, so she could control the narrative herself.
@Caffeine_Addict_2020
@Caffeine_Addict_2020 2 года назад
It's hysterical how absolutely atrociously she has handled this situation from start to finish. It doesn't sound like she's done 1 smart PR move
@NotYourRealMom
@NotYourRealMom Год назад
This is the 3rd video of your's I've watched tonight and I have literally never heard of any of these people. You do a really good job of making all of the information digestible and entertaining. Thank you for making content!
@PrincessInDTower
@PrincessInDTower 8 месяцев назад
At risk of putting myself in some hot water, I'm going to express how absolutely infuriated the defense of "well there's no legal proceedings or investigations so obviously Sienna never did any of these things" makes me If you fucking stub your toe home alone and no one sees it, you still stubbed your fucking toe. Here's the part that may make my life a little difficult: My last boyfriend (last both because he was the last person I dated and because I've since realized I'm a lesbian and won't ever date men again) SAd me. Multiple times. Over a period of at least a year. There will never be legal proceedings, I have no proof but my own word. Hell, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even be able to use my own testimony at this point because of how long I waited to tell anyone But it still *happened.* He still assaulted me, even if he would argue we were consenting adults (note that these events were sometimes directly violent, sometimes the line of consent was too blurry to ever be called safe and healthy), but he still did those things to me and the fact I have these memories The idea that anyone could ever think "well the police aren't involved so clearly nothing happened" is a good response to any of this makes me so genuinely ill because this shit is what kept me from telling anyone what was happening to me until I had already dumped the f***er and kicked him out of my house.
@bootyman20
@bootyman20 2 года назад
I see a lot of people defending her with stuff like “men can’t be raped” (which isn’t even true for man on man, there’s a reason altar boys and priests are such a punchline) and “women can’t rape” (again, nuns and altar boys). It’s just a bummer that in an age where it’s getting easier and easier to not only call out someone on this sort of behaviour, old messages and hipocrisy still run so damn deep.
@Neillan
@Neillan 2 года назад
Well that's just modern feminism at work, protecting those who absolutely don't need it lol. Different rules for different people, Sienna would have fully gotten away with it (and still might) had Jack not had the massive following he did. TikTok doesn't care either, they would still promote her.
@bootyman20
@bootyman20 2 года назад
@@Neillan i think it’s less “modern feminism” and more just a cycle of gullible people being fooled by snake oil sellers, but i agree with the fact that if jack wasn’t already popular there would have been no repercussions for sienna. shits fucked lmao
@HazelleFPS
@HazelleFPS 2 года назад
@@Neillan I have never seen a feminist argue that men can't be raped
@Slayyyaphine
@Slayyyaphine 2 года назад
@@Neillan oh god here we go 🙄
@JaimyW
@JaimyW 2 года назад
@@Neillan no feminist says men can’t be raped. Feminists are the loudest proponents of highlighting all victims of sexual abuse, including men.
@tohaovershell
@tohaovershell 2 года назад
As weird as it sounds, I’ve been really glad to see female abusers getting more coverage. I hope the “women are always innocent” and “men always ask for it/want it” beliefs will start being phased out and people will start questioning these biases more. I know I personally have this unconscious bias and I’ve been unlearning it in the past year. Jack is amazingly brave for speaking out, as a survivor myself having spoken out about someone in my community, I cannot even IMAGINE that level of attention times 1000! I hope he gets what he needs in therapy and can heal from this.
@yikesyourchunkyhostilityha2321
@yikesyourchunkyhostilityha2321 2 года назад
Completely agree. I'm getting tired of people using the "Woman have always been hurt by men throughout history" excuse to act like this isn't bad. I'm a female, I had a stepmother who abused the whole family, so the idea that women can't be dangerous or abusive (or it's not that bad when women do it) is terrible. Seriously, all dangerous double standards need to just die.
@FukaiKokoro
@FukaiKokoro 2 года назад
I think you’re taking it wrong. Like no one is saying women predators aren’t equal as men predators. Let’s not demean any gender. Because from what y’all are saying y’all make it seem like “who gaf about women victims, we’ve cared enough about them”. Everyone is valid.
@nxrj5632
@nxrj5632 2 года назад
@@FukaiKokoro “Like no one is saying women predators aren’t equal as male predators” they are though, lots of people can be seen defending her with stuff like he must’ve enjoyed or men can’t be sexually assaulted or raped (which in the opposite case of a women being SA’ed by a man is not even a thing and really serious as it should be) Also the second part where you’ve said that we’re making it seem like “who gaf about women victims we’ve cared enough about them” is the part where you taking it wrong cause we just want the same attention and seriousness taken for both not take away attention.
@nxrj5632
@nxrj5632 2 года назад
@halcyon ! ♡ ° sorta? I still don’t think it will ever be perfectly equal or balanced but that’s just the way it is
@starcraft2own
@starcraft2own 2 года назад
@@FukaiKokoro This was a horrible take trying to hide the truth. Who are you defending with this comment? You are literally lying with the "no one is saying women predators aren’t equal as men predators." part. It is a well documented part of human psychology that this is indeed a conditioned way of thinking about sexual assault.
@mollsewa
@mollsewa Год назад
Jack seemed so genuine, heartbroken, and vulnerable in his response video while Sienna's videos are incredibly defensive and aggressive. Unfortunately, male sexual assault victims are often disregarded. I'm not surprised it took him so long to say something.
@fourever2ne1
@fourever2ne1 Год назад
“I was so used to it…….it was normal for me.” That broke my heart!I hope the poor kid learns to not blame himself.I know it’s hard,but it’s not your fault.(I know from my own experiences that it’s hard not to blame yourself.)
@samcarter2644
@samcarter2644 Год назад
I absolutely hate when rapists or sex offenders try and justify their actions by bringing in their age like the whole “you don’t wanna ruin a young mans life” or “she’s young she’ll make mistakes” is so sinister to me and it’s disgusting assault is assault of you are 17 you definitely know better
@BlueHazyDreams
@BlueHazyDreams Год назад
No care for the life that has already been permanently, severely altered. These aren't mistakes unless you're like 8 and curious, and even then "keep your hands to yourself" had been a mantra of teachers since preschool.
@SergyMilitaryRankings
@SergyMilitaryRankings Год назад
@@BlueHazyDreams permanently altered lmao 🤣 dudes soft af if this is traumatic
@ochuspin
@ochuspin Год назад
@@SergyMilitaryRankings how about you have someone stalk you and show up in your home at night without you knowing and say that
@SergyMilitaryRankings
@SergyMilitaryRankings Год назад
@@ochuspin lmfao, I'd tell them to piss off, god such a snowflake generation
@dekkitpotatomaster5073
@dekkitpotatomaster5073 11 месяцев назад
I knew rape was wrong at age 5 😮
@anniehoward7333
@anniehoward7333 2 года назад
It's bothersome how Sienna uses Jack consenting to acts they performed on camera(no different from actors) to excuse her kissing and touching him when he wasn't awake to consent and when he previously said he didn't want anything more than a friendship. Imo it's a dangerous mindset to believe you have control over someone and their body just because of past actions with them. I feel for Jack, he seemily was continuously disregard by someone he saw as a friend who seems to think little of the sexual harassment/assault she did to him. Hearing him speak on his experience, you give friends benefit of the doubt because their your friend and I dont believe its your fault if your friend uses your kindness against you.
@generichuman2044
@generichuman2044 2 года назад
Very good point about it being no different to actors. By her insane logic it would be okay for Kate Winslet to do these things to Leonardo Di Caprio because they had a movie relationship. Putting on a relationship for views is very different to continually chasing someone who has politely said no on numerous occasions
@anthonyfernandez82
@anthonyfernandez82 2 года назад
That's the behavior you see on to catch a predator
@tarotsushima3332
@tarotsushima3332 2 года назад
Exactly. It gives the same sort of attitude some people have that married people can't be raped or assaulted by their partners because they're in a consummated relationship. Like, unless both parties are equally up for it, that's still assault, regardless of prior circumstances.
@infinitymixtapes9562
@infinitymixtapes9562 2 года назад
That’s what tells me Jack’s 100% the truth. Sienna doesn’t even seem like she can define consent
@joanneweed803
@joanneweed803 2 года назад
This girls is DANGEROUS via breaking into his house time after time. Dude get a restraining order NOW and make it a permanent one. She’s @siennamae is not right in the head! Get yourself a lawyer! #metoo
@tasmr3892
@tasmr3892 Год назад
It makes me so furious that she gets to live her life unaffected and happy while the things she did and said to jack will be permanently stuck in his brain and that’s not fair. The fact that she lied makes me even madder. I just feel like she should of went to jail because if it happened the other way around jack would have some serious consequences. It’s just not fair
@NJRDC
@NJRDC 9 месяцев назад
It’s a real toss up which makes a worse apology, this or the Toxic Gossip train song.
@theanubisfan10
@theanubisfan10 2 года назад
I was a teenager when I was sexually assaulted by two female classmates. They cornered me, groped me, humiliated and mocked me. It took me until my twenties to realize that what happened to me was wrong because I was raised to believe women can't be perpetrators. I hope Sienna will eventually suffer consequences. Not just for Jack's sake. But for everyone who had been attacked and was never taken seriously.
@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3
@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3 7 месяцев назад
Damn, how did they corner you exactly? Like, did they force you down, were there other people around? Just curious
@roseyoung44
@roseyoung44 7 месяцев назад
​@@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3....seriously man? I hope you didn't do this on purpose, but just so you know, asking someone weirdly invasive questions about their assault isn't cool. Some curiosities should be ignored.
@samy7342
@samy7342 4 месяца назад
My heart goes to you, I hope you can heal and that they suffer the consequences of their horrible acts.
@derangeduck
@derangeduck 3 месяца назад
@@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3that’s gross man
@azrienstewartenasen1508
@azrienstewartenasen1508 3 месяца назад
​@@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3wow when it comes to men being victims, you are asking invasive questions? Get out of here.
@reneew8181
@reneew8181 2 года назад
Literally every victim blaming tactic in the book is in those first response videos alone. "Why were you touchy with me a week later then" "remember when I comforted you and brought you food" "why did you wait so long to say something then" etc. She seems so manipulative that she believes her own manipulation and has become delusional. Stand with SA survivors no matter their gender.
@dragonkingsports
@dragonkingsports Год назад
You’re one of the few women in the comment section saying this. Women will say “kill all men” but won’t hold other women accountable
@gachatana9656
@gachatana9656 Год назад
​@@dragonkingsports Honey you have no idea on the true "women" then do you? You just see toxicity.
@morganfreeman544
@morganfreeman544 9 месяцев назад
Seriously. I almost couldn't watch that part. I've been through emotional abuse like that and my god does it make moving on from whatever you're hurting about impossible... Even worse if it's something like what Jack went thru. She is so obviously an abuser. You'd think rich people could afford PR teams etc that make them look like saints. I guess abusers are really just that delusional.
@shandahusted2960
@shandahusted2960 Год назад
This was put together and edited beautifully
@orion10x10
@orion10x10 Год назад
Bro your intros go HARD wtf, I love the bass-y music and editing
@heatherlynn4652
@heatherlynn4652 2 года назад
The worst part is she obviously doesn't think she did anything wrong. And this happens more often to men and boys than people realize. My 15yo son experienced something a couple weeks ago with a girl who repeatedly wasn't respecting his boundaries after he clearly told her he just wanted to be friends. She kept trying to forcefully kiss him every time they spent time together. And I could tell he was really shaken up by it. He cares about her as a friend but doesn't want to be put in that situation again. I told him the best thing to do is stop being friends with her. Its a really difficult situation, and not something he'd want to go to the police or the school over. But I do hope she doesn't continue this behavior with other people
@dontfallyoumighthurtyourse4694
@dontfallyoumighthurtyourse4694 2 года назад
There’s a power dynamic there. Girls know most guys won’t refuse even if they don’t want to and she’s used to getting her way.
@theoutsiderjess4869
@theoutsiderjess4869 2 года назад
I'm sorry your son had to go through with that and that people don't understand boundaries
@chiefofthesky
@chiefofthesky 2 года назад
i’m glad this story implies your son trusts you and you support him in turn, especially at that age.
@chiefofthesky
@chiefofthesky 2 года назад
@halcyon ! ♡ ° i hope one day you can tell someone. whether it’s tomorrow or ten years from now, it’s not a sin to wait to share trauma. and if people you trust react with blame, then that’s *their* fault. they would be in the wrong, not you. but also remember that sometimes we overestimate how others will respond to things. and the people closest to us can be more understanding and loving than we give them credit for, especially when it comes to difficult topics like this. 🖤
@DystopianOverture
@DystopianOverture 2 года назад
Much love and solidary to your son
@hollylor
@hollylor 2 года назад
Jack saying “i don’t know if i’ll ever be the person i was before i met sienna” broke my heart. i get the feeling.
@katelynbrown98
@katelynbrown98 2 года назад
Unfortunately many people feel this way. But fortunately, many people also find growth and positivity after they heal from the traumatic relationship.
@riisky2411
@riisky2411 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@quietworld2267
@quietworld2267 Год назад
@@riisky2411 how is this funny to you?
@riisky2411
@riisky2411 Год назад
@@quietworld2267 an attractive women can’t rape a man first of all. “I’ll never be the person I was before” give me a break. She kissed him not sodomized him.
@riisky2411
@riisky2411 Год назад
@@quietworld2267 any reason to play victim tho amiright
@ImBored8141
@ImBored8141 Год назад
Your intros and general editing style. Scrap that, your videos in general are so great in so many ways, there the perfect fit in between TRO and Sunnyv2. Different enough to stand out but not two much as to be one of those drama channels. Also those intros really do feel like a super intense Netflix preveiw
@prettyevil6662000
@prettyevil6662000 Год назад
That lawyer was quite possibly the worst I've ever seen at lawyer speak. She couldn't talk her way around any of those questions well, she stammered over her words instead of speaking confidently, she was far too flippant sounding for the subject matter. There's a line you walk when defending someone against accusations (especially when, according to Sienna, this was misplaced from someone else assaulting him so he is a victim and you still need to be sensitive that he needs help) that you have to be respectful and well-spoken but firm in the denials. She failed every part of that. Whoever hired her did a terrible job vetting her - or they sent her with Sienna on purpose because they just didn't like Sienna that much.
@saferoundhouse5910
@saferoundhouse5910 2 года назад
the fact that Jack cuts out many parts in the video were he was crying (which are obvious bc there's a cut and afterwards his voice is shaky, eyey red, etc.) says much about him and his sincerity compared to people who dramatically cry on camera in order to get sympathy and pity
@inyourwifi
@inyourwifi 11 месяцев назад
Gotta love how Sienna and her lawyers used that against him, though. Trying to call him manipulative by responding with an edited video. Absolutely horrible. Even after all he's been through, he kept his composure. That kid's stronger than he should ever have to be.
@NobelNighthawk274
@NobelNighthawk274 2 года назад
I can’t get over how disgusting her “apology” interpretive dance video was. Truly embarrassing.
@hannerikruger7216
@hannerikruger7216 2 года назад
It doesn't seem real
@funinthebun1413
@funinthebun1413 Месяц назад
Can’t believe she still has a platform or brand deals, she walked away with no repercussions
@Animanatee
@Animanatee Год назад
I've dealt with people like her in high school. Those people like to push others around to feel powerful, but also need to be loved by everyone, and when you call them out on it they'll do whatever they need to do to stay in the spotlight.
@thelonleyUchiha1
@thelonleyUchiha1 2 года назад
She comes off as a person who’s so used to getting what she wants and thinks so highly of herself that when he basically said no her brain couldn’t comprehend it. So she forced herself on him because it’s what SHE wanted and didn’t really care if he wanted it or not cause “why wouldn’t he I’m perfect”. The girl needs a reality check, therapy and maybe some jail time
@steamedhamlet
@steamedhamlet 2 года назад
I agree but I also feel like deep down she is immensely insecure. She's trying so hard to stave it off but it radiates from her like stink lines.
@thelonleyUchiha1
@thelonleyUchiha1 2 года назад
@@steamedhamlet oh yeah I agree no doubt
@Indomitable_Alykat
@Indomitable_Alykat 2 года назад
Definitely. She's giving major narcissist vibes imo
@mediocremukbangs1655
@mediocremukbangs1655 2 года назад
Typical SRKS „spoiled rich kid syndrome“
@nineteeneightynine432
@nineteeneightynine432 2 года назад
@@steamedhamlet I read that wrong as stink holes 😄😄
@Neillan
@Neillan 2 года назад
Unfortunately, men actually getting justice for sexual assaults like this is the *massive exception, not the rule.* We can only hope this case starts to change things for the better!
@JaimyW
@JaimyW 2 года назад
It’s the exception for all kinds of sexual assault unfortunately. Underreporting and a shitty conviction rate are consistent for all genders, though especially poor for trans women.
@tohaovershell
@tohaovershell 2 года назад
@@JaimyW that’s true and it is so fucking awful. It is such a hard crime to prove without physical or video evidence, which there is often none, and obtaining evidence often involves traumatizing someone again. I’m a survivor and I chose to go the “internet callout” route instead of to the police and even that was very traumatizing, I can’t imagine how much worse it would be to bring it to the police, go thru all the red tape and then still not be believed
@coco-ty9hq
@coco-ty9hq 2 года назад
@@tohaovershell i don’t think i’ll ever have the courage to go the “internet callout” route, so i have a lot of respect for any victim that does. i can only imagine how terrifying it was for you. i hope you’re healing ❤️
@stephaniewilliams6756
@stephaniewilliams6756 2 года назад
Dude WOMEN GETTING JUSTICE IS ALSO THE EXCEPTION. Something like 2 percent of rapes get convictions. Literally we live in hell for all genders ok
@maineman5757
@maineman5757 2 года назад
She didn't go to prison so sadly this is a case of men NOT getting justice.
@littlemilk973
@littlemilk973 11 месяцев назад
The dance was the worst part. Imagine being a victim of SA and then seeing this circus show as a response to your allegations 💀
@thattroy
@thattroy Год назад
Your videos are frickin’ brilliant, man, keep up the amazing work!
@maddihsonsteel2698
@maddihsonsteel2698 2 года назад
She keeps emphasizing they didn’t have sex and I’m like “yeah, I know, he didn’t want to have sex with you. you assaulted him”
@Baldjotarokujo
@Baldjotarokujo Год назад
Thats what mkes it ASSULT Sienna
@dariusfilip4695
@dariusfilip4695 Год назад
jack: "i told her countless times" sierra: "so uhh i want to marry this guy"
@burrowed3864
@burrowed3864 Год назад
having sex has nothing to do with being sexually assaulted, ikr
@isabelringing4627
@isabelringing4627 Год назад
i legitimately almost started crying when jack talked about how it became normal for the assault to happen. no one should ever have to go through that. my heart breaks for him :(
@ouwebrood497
@ouwebrood497 Год назад
Yes, battered boy syndrome.
@puff_and_co
@puff_and_co 10 месяцев назад
As a survivor of this exact thing, the abuse is so normalized and accepted that you eventually become used to it because you're so so tired of resisting. It's extremely exhausting and hard. Sexual abuse is a murky area but this is pretty much my relationship with my ex. It's so hard and I'm so proud of Jack for normalizing male SA victims, as well as standing to a narcissistic abuser like Sienna
@samanthabackman1444
@samanthabackman1444 Год назад
As someone with trauma of my own, while watching Jack's video it's hard not to notice his hands. I do the exact same thing when I'm talking about my trauma (granted I've got PTSD so it happens when I'm experiencing my flashbacks sometimes too): messing with fingers, grasping onto my finger and pulling, clenching fists, cracking knuckles, etc. And, as the topics get more and more upsetting, Jack's hands ramp up, moving faster, grasping harder. It's clear he's telling the truth and I can only hope that he's been going to therapy to help learn how to cope
@thisismyyoutube1846
@thisismyyoutube1846 9 месяцев назад
"I'm young and I'm still learning" is the most annoying non-apology. It's sisters,"I'm new to this and going to make some mistakes." and ,"I don't mean to hurt anyone and apologize to anyone who feels that I've hurt them" are close seconds.
@DisappointingPorn
@DisappointingPorn 2 года назад
Oh, THIS chick😳 Abuse is abuse, no matter your age. She doesn’t get a “pass” for being a young adult. I’m so glad Wright stood up, not just for himself by taking his story public, but also for all men who are victims and survivors of abuse. It’s real and it’s devastating.
@allroundlad
@allroundlad 2 года назад
She's a teen. You only realise what young adult means once you get to your early 20s. With that being said, you're fully responsible and aware of your actions at 18.
@channel45853
@channel45853 Год назад
@@allroundlad no, you're responsible for your actions as a teen and up
@drinkaholix4181
@drinkaholix4181 Год назад
You are responsible for your actions when you can understand the difference between right and wrong
@allroundlad
@allroundlad Год назад
@@channel45853 did you even read my damn comment? I said she's responsible BUT no point calling teens adults when they are NOT. Being a true adult starts at at 20 that's why it's nineTEEN and twenty is twenty.
@livin.4711
@livin.4711 Год назад
@@drinkaholix4181 well she’s was a teen when this happened and now a young adult and not much changed from there. shes not a toddler so she’s responsible for her nasty actions.
@RUlNA
@RUlNA 2 года назад
As a man who was assaulted for years by a woman, Jack's seated position and the way he cries is interesting - it's very similar to my own body language when discussing it with a therapist. I feel for him... hope he gets the help he needs to overcome the feelings I know he must have
@c.9858
@c.9858 Год назад
Hey bro I hope you recover stay strong bro
@RUlNA
@RUlNA Год назад
@@c.9858 Thanks man. Wish you well as well.
@alexvalladares1070
@alexvalladares1070 Год назад
Hope life is better bro
@Queen-fo1jv
@Queen-fo1jv Год назад
You’re a man how did that happen for years???!
@Queen-fo1jv
@Queen-fo1jv Год назад
You know you’re more stronger than a woman you know you can just end it right but you choose to stay in
@PNE756
@PNE756 2 месяца назад
Watching this a year later and it is insane how she still has such a huge following and all of this has been swept under the rug.
@stiflers_mom
@stiflers_mom Год назад
them trying to say hes just slandering her is so dumb to me cause if he was benefitting off their fake relationship so much then he has no reason to burn that bridge unless what he was saying was true
@fraulynnarana1528
@fraulynnarana1528 2 года назад
whatever narrative she tried to build pre apology Dance Audition Video was shattered the moment she made that. not only did she essentially admit to all of the accusations thrown at her, she showcased a really strong unapologetic personality which made people more annoyed with her.
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 2 года назад
I am the most famous man on YouTub! This is not bragging! This is the truth! The truth will set you free, dear frau
@Melina_Evarblume_Seelie
@Melina_Evarblume_Seelie 2 года назад
Yep. Honestly the one thing you should do when you've pissed off the Internet is do something which shows that you aren't bothered. It's a sure fire way of getting absolutely slaughtered ngl.
@ke6279
@ke6279 2 года назад
@@AxxLAfriku read the room
@blupuffsbigtime
@blupuffsbigtime 2 года назад
I love how your example of a sincere and tactful apology is Jenna marbles. A true queen
@bananafone1414
@bananafone1414 Год назад
goddess*
@blupuffsbigtime
@blupuffsbigtime Год назад
@@bananafone1414 as much as I love her, I won’t go that far, but if that’s your opinion that’s awesome
@blupuffsbigtime
@blupuffsbigtime Год назад
@ElijahCuh sometimes it’s just not worth it to argue 💜 peace in your life is peace of mind
@Alex-bw6yd
@Alex-bw6yd Год назад
Man I miss Jenna. I hope her and Julian and the pups are all doing alright.
@blupuffsbigtime
@blupuffsbigtime Год назад
@@Alex-bw6yd me too, she was one of the first RU-vidrs I watched, and to see her gone now, just sad
@kenma5176
@kenma5176 3 месяца назад
YEA RIGHT. IT MUST BE SO HARD FOR HER THAT SHE SA’D HER “FRIEND”. It broke my heart when he said that “ he will never be the same” “that there is a part of him that wants to blame himself, because he was nice to her” , cause I can relate so much.
@perspgold8945
@perspgold8945 8 месяцев назад
"did you eat today" seems like a genuine ana recovery promotion. i don't get the back lash
@cass7559
@cass7559 2 года назад
sienna: “post your proof, or send it to me and i’ll post it.” also sienna: “i tried multiple times to keep this offline”
@ddjsoyenby
@ddjsoyenby 2 года назад
"i never expected it to still exist"
@Person-nf6dj
@Person-nf6dj 2 года назад
glad you’re not afraid to talk about female sexual assaults. “men can’t be r*ped” i feel is one of the most harmful things that can be said. best wishes to jack
@samcarter2644
@samcarter2644 Год назад
Ya like the amount of times I heard people say men should enjoy it especially by older men themselves it’s just ridiculous
@urmamasmamasmama
@urmamasmamasmama Год назад
Boys and men are raped, by men and women. Ppl need to recognize there's no stereotype of rapist nor victim.
@HopeIsADrug11037
@HopeIsADrug11037 Год назад
It's insane how many people think it can't happen
@HopeIsADrug11037
@HopeIsADrug11037 Год назад
@@samcarter2644 exactly my ex-best friend said that guys should enjoy being raped. it's so invalidating and suggests further that men only want sex.
@urmamasmamasmama
@urmamasmamasmama Год назад
@@HopeIsADrug11037 true. Parents need to educate their daughters and sons.
@audrey_sif
@audrey_sif Год назад
i'm pretty sure i've watched this sometime before, but as a victim myself of falling into a cycle of problematic behavior, the way jack spoke about sienna's consistent behavior becoming normalized to him made me jolt a little. it reflected how i feel about my own situation, and ultimately, i feel so awful for him. SA is something that anyone can do no matter gender, and anyone can be a victim. wonderful video.
@yuuriahl
@yuuriahl 5 месяцев назад
As someone with a restrictive ED, while I appreciate my fiance and parents reminding me to eat (I forget all the time) I would never wanna see it on a shirt like that in person, it seems harmless but I think what most people forget is how hard it is to actually get yourself to start eating again when youre used to not eating, in fact seeing reminders like that can actually make the problem worse and make people feel shamed for not having healthy eating habits My ED (ARFID), while not tied to body image as a driving factor, is immensely psychologically damaging to me, I can do an entire day eating nothing but I've been eating like this since I was little, the problem only getting worse as I've gotten older and have more space to think about it, I constantly beat myself up over not consuming enough for my body to physically survive and it makes it hard for me to even look at or think about food most of the time, it makes me feel physically ill, even being in the kitchen can be too much A shirt saying "did you eat today" is honestly insulting, like oh yeah sure, as if I hadn't thought about it all day and the mental turmoil and stress from the thought of consuming more than a handful of craisins makes me actively want to vomit Thanks for the reminder that we arent normal Sienna
@Lydia-dd9bo
@Lydia-dd9bo 2 года назад
Why does she think a lawyer will somehow give her more credibility? A lawyer's job is to defend their client, not to be a beacon of truth. Her lawyer is there to defend her, regardless of whether she's guilty or innocent. Both the lawyer and "forensics expert" are both being paid by Sienna to make her look good. And all the "forensics expert" was able to claim was that the video was technically not long enough to be used in court, NOT that the video is fake or that Jack's claims about what happened were wrong. Sienna is such a manipulative, conceited, and self centered person. It makes me laugh that she claims she wanted to keep all of this private as to not minimize sexually assault. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that she wanted to keep it private for herself. She doesn't give a shit about Jack, she just doesn't want the internet to find out what a truly scummy person she is. I hope one day she learns from her mistakes and takes accountability for her actions. I pray that she won't hurt anyone else.
@littlemisslilroxXX
@littlemisslilroxXX 2 года назад
i don’t
@littlemisslilroxXX
@littlemisslilroxXX 2 года назад
i don’t think
@littlemisslilroxXX
@littlemisslilroxXX 2 года назад
i love that too lol i don’t know how long you
@coolsomeash
@coolsomeash 2 года назад
She needs jail
@theoutsiderjess4869
@theoutsiderjess4869 2 года назад
What she needs is to hit rock bottom and go to jail
@mophead_xu
@mophead_xu 2 года назад
i chuckled with irony when the statements from her legal team said (paraphrased) "this is unfortunately the usual tactics used to undermine successful women of colour" because as i listened to the whole thing, it sounded like the usual tactics used to undermine victims who had the _audacity_ to come forward with their abuse.
@Sagittariusastar182
@Sagittariusastar182 Год назад
This breaks my heart hearing jack speak about his SA, you can see he’s hurting and trying to stay strong
@tcwright9792
@tcwright9792 2 месяца назад
@jaubrey Thank you so much for covering this, its always tough to watch videos about her Glad I found this even though its been a while since you posted it -Jacks older brother
@superstarnayeon2794
@superstarnayeon2794 2 года назад
i will never be able to understand how fame 'makes' people SA others. they always blame their 'difficult lifestyle that no one prepared them for' and is..someone needs to prepare you to not SA someone??? these kinds of people are messed up in the head
@thepovdweller
@thepovdweller 2 года назад
Nah its all bullshit excuses. Fame and money usually reveal one's true character. They are just shitty people from the start
@taeilshighnotesinchain5621
@taeilshighnotesinchain5621 2 года назад
I guess they think just because they're someone famous taking advances at you, you should be flatered
@althefunkman
@althefunkman 2 года назад
and people wonder why men don't speak up about their emotions, vulnerabilities, or trauma. the amount of stretching she had to do to the narrative to make herself even resemble a victim is disgusting and the fact that people still defend her is even more disgusting
@emwagss
@emwagss Год назад
What’s even MORE disgusting is she has begun to post again. And ppl are supporting her!!! Her first vid coming back was SO distasteful
@umairashraf5167
@umairashraf5167 Год назад
Hey,johnny Depp got his justice, maybe,things will change
@khasualentertainment6734
@khasualentertainment6734 Год назад
But its them that made it be like this. They this so called norm Of boys and men need to be the man. They caused this of speaking out about it cause they "suppose" to want it
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman Год назад
Humanity is disgusting.
@burrowed3864
@burrowed3864 Год назад
I mean it all depends on the person really. That’s a stereotype and not really true. Besides, many women don’t share their emotions or trauma when they are sexually assaulted and hide it for years. It’s not a gender thing not to talk about things. Just like there are men who are emotionally open. Besides, not sharing your emotions or your vulnerabilities really just does more to hurt yourself in the end.
@flyaround312
@flyaround312 Год назад
She says she loved him but what she really loved was the control she had over him
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