The Altaic Family of languages includes the Turkic, Mongolic and Tungusic languages and is often expanded to include the Koreanic and Japonic languages
Hi, the Altaic theory is now largely discredited with the constituent branches being independent families without a common origin. The similarities between the families can be attributed to language contact in the area.
at least some good "japanese" lol. be happy that we koreans civilicated your islands, without korean-siberian blood you would be coloy of someone else. without korean-siberian you would be ainu and taiwanese lol japanese is only a dialect of korean with strong ainu accent thats it. japan belong to koreans. ainu lost the war.
Hungarians are not same with Turkish, borrowing words doesn't mean it's in that language family. Hungarian is Finno-Ugric, Turkey is not so please stop spreading these lies.
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Orlando Sages Turkic people are from Mongols. See Turkic peoples dna by Turkic people I mean Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbek etc. there’s a difference between Turks and Turkic. Turks are also called Anatolian Turks, they got mixed during the Ottoman Empire with Greeks, Arabs, Kurdish, Armenians and some balkans. Thus, they have almost no similar dna with Turkic people, whereas Turkic people still carry Mongolian dna nowadays. Just because language is almost the same doesn’t mean the majority of Turks and Turkic are genetically related nowadays.
@@Namuun98 no similar?😂are you sure?anatolian turkmens/yoruk(nomadic anatolian turks)are more pure turk than kazakhs or kyrgyzs.kazakhs and kyrgyzs are turk+mongol.
@@Namuun98 And He didnt say mongolians are turk.? Uzbeks,turkmens mixed with persians too.it doesnt mean they arent turkic.we mixed with anatolians it doesnt mean we havent a connection with central asian turks.our culture same with central asian turkics.and our face type etc.our foods like khaimag,yoghurt nomadic food.i know even mongols have khaimag
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Language and races are different things. Japanese and Korean are in Altaic Language group because these languages are too similar to turkic languages by grammer rules. Turkish:Kyoto'ya gitti Japanese:Kyoto e itta Korean:Gyoto e gassda Kazakh:Kyoto 'ya ketti Kyrgyz:Kyoto' ya getdi Do you understand now? By the way, It is NOT proofs Japanese and Turkic countries are cousins. Just their grammer rules are so similar. I am learning both of Turkish and Japanese. SUMMARY:Stop bullshiting now.
+Natsu ”Uzumaki” Dragneel This whole Altaic discussion is a very difficult one, but I personally believe that it's okay to clasify the Turkic, Mongolic, Tungustic, Japonic and Koreanic under the same banner. Even if these languages may not be that close to each other as the Indo-European Languages are today, this unification can clear things out not just how the respective languages are formed, but where the actual people of those groups comes from.
+Natsu “Uzumaki” Dragneel Actually, it's been highly debunked already. Simply put, there is no Proto-Altaic language because in fact Altaic language family NEVER existed, so undeniably legitimately proving it utterly fucking impossible. My logical theory; The extremely striking and surely non-coincidental similatities streatching from Japonic to Turkic come from a very very extremely pan-ancient caveman-like language roughly of 50 to 100 that the genetic ancestors of Turkic peoples and Japonics spoke multiple thousands years ago until a major important event happened that got them somehow utterly separated in such way that is almost perfect and so they anyone followed their own way, keeping some words of their previous language that went extinct. Like an avalance that blocked their road forever or smth like a tribal quarrel. Therefore after that, anyone created their own languages like Proto-Tunguisic, Proto-Turkic and etc. Most of words were forgotten, others kept completely unaltered like the Turkish and the Japanese word for "hill" and were so disturbingly altered that they don't even remotely look like the ancestor words. They were too few. That's my theory. Or that or a highly commerce-oriented tribe existed trading stuff between Proto-Koreans, Proto-Japanese, Proto-Mongolic and others so they exchanged words. I think their ancestors lived thousand years agon in Karakachayi(not Altai) or whatever the mountains are called before you surpass them to go to Everest. Or a little far from Middle East, but not very much.
Some of you deny because they think all turkish is turkic. They dont know. I know many japanese cant use "f", "r", "l" like words on the head of words like my grandma. Also our vowels has 2 kinds. 1. "a,ı,o,u" and 2. "e,i,ö,ü".. If a word begin with first vowels, it continue with them, and same for second vowels... For example; Japanese>Japanasa, embrace>embireçe, america>amarıka.. Do you have any kind like this?
@@muratozgun2813 They are Vietnamese troll. They try to pull Japanese closer to Vietnam. To do so, they have to distance Altaic and Turks from Japanese. But what pathetic about them is they pretend to advocate for Austronesian origins of Japanese to hide their identity. There are more than 200 accounts with Japanese, Korean, Russian names. They are all Vietnamese. They try to pull Japanese close to Vietnam to secure their dirt poor and underdeveloped country.
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@@BatuHanAltai, Yes I know the account ''本日'' is a real Japanese, not fake. My 2 above comments were to respond to the Turkish account ''Murat Özgün'' who wrote that some of the Japanese deny that Japanese is Altaic. I clarified to him that whose Japanese accounts trying to deny that Japanese being an Altaic language are fake Japanese. Those accounts only have Japanese names but they cannot even write Japanese properly.
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Bilghu Erlikhon You are right but Mete han anda Oğuz han are not same person. This story belongs Mete han. Oğuz han is ancestor of Oghuzes. Mete han is who found army.
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I'm not defending any theories, because it is pointless in my opinion. But as Kazakh (turkic nation) I will share my personal experience of learning Japanese language. It was simple for me, many grammatic things I understood without any effort, it was familiar language, but with whole different vocabulary, with only couple seemingly similar words. My Buryat (mongolic nation) pal had similar experience. May be it is because SOV languages have many logical similarities or else. Sikasi, rensyuu nakute nihongo wasureyasui desune, totemo mukasi no koto desita kara, mou zyozu ni syaberenai desu yo ww. Arutaikku no koto ga ki ni sinai
this is because of SOV, grammer structure. nothing special, many languages are SOV and agglutinative. many african languages, some austronesian, tibet is SOV, latin, ..... there is no connection between japanese and turkic or altaic. phonology for example, vocal-harmonie, syntax, vocabulary,.... is totaly different to altaic. but similar with austronesian or polynesian, some with tibetan, i heard tourists(black tourist) sayed japanese names resemble a african language. official linguistic view: japanese is in japonic family and isolated. there are connections in grammer with korean, but no common native vocabulary. Phonology is similar to austronesian family. Japanese words can not end with the letter M. altaic words can end with M. .... Most say japonic family is a isolated family/ a own great human language family. others say japanese is mix of korean, native japanese and chinese influence. some japanese scientists/linguists say japanese is a language that split off of the proto-austronesian family. --> para-austronesian. altaic theory is debunked. japanese is not altaic, DNA support that. We have no genetically connection to altaic people.
the old-japanese is more different to altaic than today japanese. so no, there is no common native vocabulary between japanese and altaic. also the fact that the phonology is extremly different. and in turkey turks there is turkic haplogroups found. i see DNA-tests where stand highets altaic DNA in turks is 25%. but in japan there is no altaic DNA. 0%..... also culture is different. altaic people use a different bow than us. turks sayd the bow is a common sign of altaic people. japanese bow is completely different, and the fact that japanese words can not end with M. and the vocal-harmonie. also the migration routes and the mythology are very different. there are no linguists that will put japanese into altaic. but there are japanese-scientists/linguists that belife a austronesian origin. even on japanese linguist said that tibetan is in the original form not sino-tibetan but in a family with proto-japanese. there are many theorys. even a dravidian connection.... non of them is accepted. only the isolated theory is accepted. and also that many similariteis with austronesian(Polynesian) exist.
Hi there. I think you shouldn't assert some allegation such as Most of Turkey Turks have no DNA connection to Altaic people (what is Modern Turkey Turks by the way???)... simply 'cause no one has enough specimen for a claim like this for a nation of 75 million. I'm saying this as a Yörük&Avshar&Tatar Turk having lots of Kayı relatives from Datça/Muğla to Ödemiş/İzmir (yeah, you should know Ötemiş Hacı, he is famous with his Cengiz-name; right... if you're really Uzbek. There are tones of people with the surname Özbek in here also who are indeed Uzbek themselves). If you take your samples from minorities and from people who have already claimed different ethnicities than being Turk then you cannot find a single Turk in Turkey. Like if your reference for Altaic genes depends on Mongoloid samples then you'd call me Icelandic? I'd recommend you to visit villages of Antalya, Muğla, İzmir, Yozgat, Niğde, Kütahya, Bursa, Ordu,.. etc. If you search for rate of Altaic-DNA appearance among people in İstanbul... well it is no different than making an assumption of Brits' origin through reading London residents' DNA. Or you'd say Greeks are indeed Turkic if your samples are from Dedeağaç, İskeçe, Gümülcine, Kavala etc.
Seriously I've always wondered why Kırgız people can't get along with Uzbeks, and some Kazaks are feverish with the name Kırgız, and Turkmens are going like 'Turkey Turks are aliens to us' where most Turkey Turks claim being Türkmen, some Kırgızs are arguing on Mongolian language is close relative to Kırgızs, closer than Turkish!!! - like wtf - etc... Other than Azerbaycan Turks why there's such stupid conflicts in btw Turkic ppl of Former Soviets... You don't have to love every each Turkish citizen no matter what but taking a stand against a nation who has the exact same mother-tongue with you, I cannot understand. Like in sparring over origins of same pilav, whether it is Kırgız, Uzbek, Türkmen, or Uygur. Because of you people there acting like that Greeks and Arabs claiming sarma/dolma as their own, Iranian non-Turkic ppl are adopting Turkish weaving patterns as their own, Kurds and Armenians are throwing themselves on our lavaş/tandır ekmeği, lahmacun, katmer etc. They say baklava is Ottoman invention which was derived from Byzantine cuisine which I died of laughter when I heard this for the first time. My ancestors has nothing to do with Osmanoğulları but they are in-born baklava chiefs for generations since before even Ottoman Empire was established. In fact they all are genius with dough. Because of our disconnection with you people they claim some Turkic originated words as theirs, especially Farsi people do this. How can smn say Turfanda (means 'from/in Turfan') is Farisi originated and its original is something like 'Tervende'? It is Turfanda because fertile Turfan basin is best to raise fruit and vegetable. The name oda which is successor of OTAĞ/OTAK once became as PERSIAN ORIGINATED!!! Yes, Turkic tent was once claimed as being Persian. Because you people are being such stone-headed they force such absurd claims on us. Are you happy with this? We have mostly Oğuz but also Kıpçak, Kuman, Tatar, Avar, etc population and none of them has an objection against Turkicness of eachother. Although each say it like: cideyrum, cidiyom, gedeyom, gidigbatın, gidiyorum,.. within borders of Turkey, each understands other as a result of being Turkic in the end. If you'd feel more familiar, my grandparents don't speak Istanbul dialect but call 'gapıya bek et/gapıya pek et' instead of 'kapıyı kapat'. They call their saddle horses as Katana/Gadana. Instead of 'yemek yapmak/yemek pişirmek' they say 'ocağa aş urmak'... Their Turkish is a bit archaic even to you I guess. I'm not a Turanist or whatever but I hate this unjustly excluding attitude. Go on keep bickering to each other to the end of world but don't mess with our Turkishness or Altaic roots. It is none of anyones business at this rate. And if feeling interested if you please look at their costumes and folklore on the video, say it again if you can... Turks has no Altaic DNA right? /watch?v=nDUxDB0zc2k Please see yatağans on their waist, ornaments and patterns, their raptor like movements... If you look close enough this is a spiritual ritual indeed not some entertainment or a dance to amuse people. I don't know what DNA says but this is not smt Arabic, Hellenic, Persian, or anything. This is true Turkic. We didn't call here Turkia on our own accord but because it is Türk Yurdu all over Latins call this land Turkia before us. I never look down on my Turkmen mate showing his daugthers pic while telling me 'her eyes are rather small unlike me, took after her mom'... So you cannot look down on us for not having 'small eyes'.
Same thing with Turkish. I'm learning Japanese and I was so suprised when I saw the similarity between Turkish and Japanese grammer. But still the vocabulary is not similar at all, except for few words such as (nani=ne) (mizu=su) (yamaç=yama) (kuro=kara) etc. I don't really think that they are Altaic but I don't care about it.
english: come. turkish:gel.gelsin.geleyim,gelsinler.gelesiniz.gelmekteler.geliyorlar.geleyazdılar.geliyilorlar.geliyorsunuz.gelmektesiniz.geliyoruz.geleyazdık.gelseniz.gelseler.gelsek.gelsem.gelsen.gelse.gelmesem.gelmesen.gelmese.gelmesek.gelmeseler.( it can be continued)
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+Endoplasmic Reticulum grammar only similar because of agglutinative language.... not related. japanese is more connected with austronesian. jomon-people(ancestors of japanese) are proto-austronesian/polynesian. main-haplogroup of DNA in today japanese is D and O.
@@user-rt4or5gh6l English - Proto-Austronesian - Japanese What - Nanu - Nani Fish - Sikan - Sakana Eye - Mata - Me also Proto-Austronesian has a lot of particles and grammar rules similar to japonic
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Altaic is more than a linguistic term, peoples speak Altaic languages share whole lotta similarities not only on Sub Ob Verb structure lol. We have musical instruments that are alike: khomuz(turkic)-temur huur(mongol)-mekeni(manchu), doshpular/topshur(turkic/mongol)=juwerge(manchu); We all have a tradition of having terribly subtle and rich vocabulary to describe things in the great nature; we all believe in Shamanism; last but not least, the practice of mounted archery and wrestling(mongols call it boke and manchus call it buku). Korea had been influenced by China for thousands of years but still remain some of the altaic attributes, Japan has its own distinct culture though, different from anywhere else
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Japonic and koreanic have distant altaic roots, but of course they were influenced by chinese for centuries(and probably by local tongues too) hence making them kinda unique.
A lot of those 'chinese' influence were from altaic dynasties that ruled china such as khitans-mongols, jurchens-machus. And these many of these dynasties were influenced/rooted in xiongnu->silla, joseon->goguryeo and balhae.
Wikipedia: According to Juha Janhunen, the ancestral languages of Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, Korean, and Japanese were spoken in a relatively small area comprising present-day North Korea, Southern Manchuria, and Southeastern Mongolia (Johanson and Robbeets 2010: 2).
+newtonop that is false... many claim such things with no knowledge. also japanese is not part of altaic. korean only little. first altaic was mongolian. turkic only adopted mongolian culture and language.
@@mongolian-kalmyk1516 i can confirm that we turks come from the same bloodline... i for example am the great grandson of cenghiz khan we arent the same people as the people of turkey but yea we got to turkey and mixed with them the turks in turkey adopted the name 'turk' from us
i am from kalmykia: turan is a stupid dream. even the word is iranian. turks stop stealing mongolian history. there will never be a turan. and i think he is japanese
+Mongolian-Kalmyk Turks never stole the mongolian history because Turks History and Mongolian History same.Turks and Mongolians brother. We live in central asia long time...Anddd we fucked the chineses....
Phanteus This is a common misconception. Koreans are not genetically close to Mongols and other Turkic tribes at all. When we take a look at the Y-DNA (Paternal) genetic make-up of the Korean population, more than 45% of the Korean population carries the Haplogroup O2b and another 35%-40% of the population carries the Haplogroup O3. Only approximately 7-9% of the population carries Haplogroup C3, which is the main marker for other Altaic / Turkic / Mongolic speakers. Genghis Khan's marker - C3c is NOT FOUND in Koreans AT ALL, and neither is it found in Han Chinese or Japanese. Han Chinese on the other hand are made up of more than 50% O3 (M122), with a smattering of others haplogroups such as O2a, C3, N3 etc.; whereas the Japanese are made up of mostly Haplogroup D2 and approximately 20% each of O2b1 and O3. Mongols on the other hand can carry as much as 40% Haplogroup C3 and when you head north, the Siberians carry Haplogroup N instead, with a frequency of as high as 75%. Now moving on to the mtDNA (Maternal) part, Koreans, Han Chinese and Japanese all carry a diverse range of different maternal haplogroups such as F, B, D etc.; but strangely, only Yakuts in the Sakha Republic and the Han Chinese in China carry a high concentration of Haplogroup D5a2a*, whereas Koreans and Japanese carry different varieties. "Old Haplogroups" such as Haplogroup C (Mongols, Manchus, Australian Aborigines) and Haplogroup D (Japanese, Tibetans, Great Andamanese) emerged in Asia thousands of years before the "New Haplogroups" such as Haplogroups N and O arrived. Note that O2b is NOT JUST carried by the Manchus, Koreans and Japanese, it's sibling haplogroup, O2a is found throughout non-Han minorities in Southern China, Thailand, Vietnam and Laos. O2b was probably not an indigenous haplogroup to the Manchus and they merely caught it from the Koreans. The traditional way of writing in Chinese is from up to down, right to left, this way of writing was universal throughout East Asia (Korea, Japan, China and Mongolia) and Vietnam.
YummYakitori Yes I saw that too. I am still interested in how it all evolved. We can only theorize and the theories are usually missing something and contradicting one another. What is interesting is that all of the cultures have different Mythological stories of how humans were created. They are incredibly similar even for civilizations across the globe. Korean mythological story says humans were created by the union of god and a bear. Tibetans say we were created by an earthly ape and a supernatural being (possibly E.T.) In southern China it's a celestial dog and a goddess princess. In china it's clay and the spittle of Gods Native Americans say humans were created from red, white, black and yellow earth by God. Mayans also with clay, then corn. Native Australians also from clay and given life from the Breathe of a god; THEN, a god cut up the original humans and living worms (DNA strands?) emanated from their bodies. Those "worms" were distributed throughout the earth and grew into humans. Then the star child skulls which were found and have much larger cranial capacity and non earthly DNA sample. Where does this fit into the evolutionary process? It doesn't.
Chubbchubbzza 007 Lol, Japanese sounds nothing like the Mandarin or Cantonese language. Also YummYakitori's comment above you is right. It's all on record anyway. You just have to figure it out for yourself. Basically Korean and Japanese at one point were most likely very very similar and once the Koreans populated Japan and turned it into an individual country and they separated each other. Their langauges both slowly changed with influence coming from China. The early Japanese used practically the same writing and characters as the Chinese. But they slowly changed things and made it their own. For instance Japan uses the Chinese numerical system but changed how you say all the numbers and also created their own language which was probably a hybrid from their original language and the Chinese influence. That being said modern Japanese speech and worlds sound nothing like Chinese speech and words. So no Japanese isn't from those Islanders from ryukyuan as you claim. After all the Koreans arrived in mainland Japan and didn't discover those Islands for quite some time and also didn't really mingle with those people much because modern ryukyuan Islanders and even Okinawan's are genetically very different from people from mainland Japan. People from mainland Japans closest relatives are the Koreans where as these Okinawans and ryukyuan Islanders closest relatives are the Taiwan native aboriginals.
Korean and Japanese are most controversial, because These two languages are so different from the rest of Altaic languages. Sometimes Korean and Japanese are considered one isolate group, but still they are most similar to Altaic Languages.
+Jooyoung Moon japanese has more similarities with austronesian/polynesian languages. also our ancestors the jomon-people are origin in south-asia, they are proto-austronesian/polynesian. also newest DNA-tests support that. (we have D and O)
why are people arguing over the this so much? Europeans stand together and call themselves brothers so why can't we Altaic people call each other brothers? If we keep arguing and neglecting each other, we will lose our power. Let's all be more kind and stand together ffs we came from the same fucking mountains 1000 years ago so stop it lmao.
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+Ancient Chronicler Well they may appear to be isolated now but they both have quite a long history and they must have come from some where (not from under the ground or above the sky :)). So why wouldn't/couldn't they related during ancient time before the diversification of the original language (namely Altai here) happened?
+unitedKR japanese are mix from jomon people(Ainu/Emishi/Ryukyuans) and yaoi(proto-chinese and proto-korean) also language. japanese only has small similarities with altaic in grammar. but in words and phonologi it is related with jomon. --> japanese is more austronesian(jomon) with altaic influence. so it is not altaic.
I begged to differ. First of all, you can hardly find a single country right now that is not a mix of multi-roots of tribes. That influences how language diversify and change over time but you still have to look at your 'spoken' language structure and see how/where it may have originated from. I think there is no doubt that Korean spoken language and Japanese spoken language had the same root but diversified due to some of the reason you are giving. Japanese jormon got conquered by altaic based invaders so (I can't say for 100%) but it's safe to assume that most of jormon language features are gone by now. Going further back on the root of Kor/Jpn language root then the major part of the root comes from as far as Altaic (in their ancestry migrants) which later diversified into Tugus, Mongolic, and Turkic. There are many historians in Korea researching on Nomaic history and its influence on the Eurasia. According to the study, most of Tugus, Mongolic, & Turkic based people started at east of Turkey then migrated towards Pamir Mountains then the ancestors split to northern path and southern path. Southern path would lead to ocean route spreading around southeast asia then eventually meets at the east (Kor/Jpn). Northern path would split more into west (towards Europe and this explains why some Europeans have altaic root, though later in the history they are invaded and influenced by Huns Attila and Mongol Genghis Khan) and east as a Nomadic. Northern-East path would lead to Altai mountain then eventually meets at the east Manchuria/Kor/Jpn and some went further east oversea to North/South America.
unitedKR only our grammar is similar( of course also some words) but the phonologie and the speaking the words is jomon. also there are many citys in honshu from ainu names. also most of the citys in hokkaido. or look at the ryukyuan-islands. for example: god/gods: in Ainu: kamui japanese: kami ape/monkey: in Ainu: sarush japanese: saru but language do not say if the people are altaic or not. but the people are different. because jomon-dna is over 50%--> this is the first reason that we are not altaic. second is that altaic-dna in japanese people is only~3%. and the yaoi wasn´t only proto-korean. also proto-chinese people. and also most of the culture are from jomon-people and something(like kanji) from china imported. and jomon language is not gone because Ainu are existing in japan. officialy 25000-200000 but researcher say they are much much more. but they hide ther idendity because they would get harder a job(discrimination and pride of homogeneous country)... one research of ainu population including half-ainu and 1/4 ainu: 57.000.000+ryukyuans including half ryukyuans 3.300.000= 60.300.000 people with direct jomon contact. rest is mainly yaoi with jomon ancestors.(87% of all japanese have at least 1 jomon ancestor) rest is pure yaoi or other mix. also a scientist study say that japanese language is a mix of altaic(structure/grammar) and austronesian/jomon phonologie.(2014-2015) like i said at beginning. and by the way i think japanese people don´t like to be includet in altaic family. more and more they get proud to have jomon/Ainu ancestors.
When people realise that there are many other Turkic ethnic groups such as Oghur Turks, Crimean Tatars, Kumyks, Karachay-Balkars etc. who also don't look Mongoloid but hating on Turkish and Azerbaijanis for that 🤡 Turkic people don't have a stereotype. We come in different shades and cultures. We're 40 ethnic groups, how can you expect all of them to look the same? Than all Indo-Europeans should look the same as well? And no, Indo-European isn't just a language family. Indo-Europeans were nomadic people who migrated to all over Europe and big parts of Asia, that's how this people spread so far.
@JojoXD, Fuck you, Vietnamese troll. This one lives in Austria, but there are other Vietnamese working with this one living in Germany, USA. Turks is their main target to attack. They try to distance Japanese/Korean from Altaic and blast the Turk. There are more than 200 accounts like this one with Japanese, korean name. But they are all Vietnamese in disguise. They also use Twitter, Wikipedia, Quora, Facebook, Reddit to attack the Turks and strike Altaic theory. Reason? they want to pull Japanese close to Vietnam to secure its dirt-poor and underdeveloped economy. To do so, they have to distance Japan from other relationship. Altaic is the only obstacle and Turks are the main proponents. So Turks and Altaic are targets of these coward and filthy Vietnamese. Nobody every thinks of Vietnamese, an irrelevant people, would do such thing. The Turks only think they were either Russian or Kurdish. But they are not. Search my blog for more information "Why are some Japanese nationalists anti-Turkish and supportive of the Armenian Genocide ?", I write about this matter.
Your blood is Azeri-Iranian. I am from Tabriz and you are our brothers. the Russia get that part of Iran (Aran) about 150 years ago inTreaty of Gulistan. Look at this link en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Gulistan They give you the fake informations. We are all Iranian in Blood.
only brothers can speak same language ! only cousins can speak similar language ! Turk language is still closest dialect to oldest altaic ! cuz other came out from Turk root.
It seems many people dont have a clue of what a language family means. It means all languages "somehow" related to each other. I am Turkish and I dont understand the Japanese or Korean too, nor do I need to do though. I believe a German doesnt understand the Indian languages too but still they are in the same Indo-European langugage family because of some similarities. So, the Japanese and Korean langs are in the same family with Turkic langs and Mongolian as Altaic language family.
Do you know the exact state of this music composed of the lyrics in the Orkhon Inscriptions? I could not find any. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d1TIK5a11E8.html
@@voidconsumer Not exactly. It depends upon the significance with which you use the term. I do not understand the last part. Why would I call Turks or Hungarians Mongols or make a joke about Finngolia?
@@voidconsumer Which is the same thing which I have said. Okay, that does not make Finns or Hungarians non-Europeans. And Indo-European roots come from northern Mount Caucasus, so? My relatives? I have never heard anyone say that. I think that you have the problem, not me. You seem to be a bitter person. I deduce it because you are using fallacious and stereotypical statements towards my people. You are generalising when most of them do not give a shit about these issues. Most of my people do not even know what “Altaic” means or where Altai is, so I don't know what you are talking about. Perhaps you had a bad experience and now you think that everyone behaves like that. Obviously it is weird to you, because it is different from yours.
altaic do not exist. it is debunked. i belive that korean-mongolian-tungusic are a old-siberian family that originated in baikal-sea area. --> baikal-family. (if not linguistic than genetically related) altaic is only turkic.
All Altai came originally from Pamir Mountains. Those tribes went north from Pamir and then spread some to west and some to east. Mongolic and Tungusic and Ancient Koreanic/Manchu/Japonic and Native American (North, mid/Mexico, & South) were the ones who went east from then. Some who originally went west also came back to middle and some to east (as far as Manchu region). Kazhak and Korean (very far now) share many similar history. One of them is the Balhae (descendant of Goguryo) history. Both Kazhak and Korean teaches that in 926AD, when Kara Khitan invaded them, their nation in Manchu region collapsed. They consistently fought for independence for over 100 years via numerous independence nations but Kazhak people eventually went to western ward and became a part of Kazhakstan and Korean people went southern ward to join Silla which ended up collapse and became Goryo - during Balhae collapse period, Silla was ending its 1k years of history which was overthrown by Goryo. Unfortunately any written records by Balhae people are yet to be found but both Kazhak and Korean say their ancestors were in Manchu region during 9th century and invaded by Khitan (Tungusic) and collapsed and moved out of Manchu region. Mongolic Buriyat and Koreanic Buyeo are the same tribe in different pronunciation due to development and adoption of different writing systems (by its numerous descendants who share same ancestry history) and from different way of writing same sound which also eventually changed over time. Buriyat/Buyeo (and many others) came from Joseon/Suksin/Juzhan/Jurchen/Yuyeon, etc. Joseon was the original Altai language based tribes with 9 tribes in 12 different nations, nomadic federation originally. From Buriyat/Buyeo -> Goguryo & Baekjae -> Shiwei, Balhae, and many ancient Manchus, and Mongol all came. Silla & Gaya have some influence from ancient Huns and Buriyat/Buyeo. Once again, this is because ancient Scythian, Huns, Buriyat/Buyeo, etc. all came from Joseon Altai - however, it is possible that Joseon (for having 2k year history) had non-Altaic people as well. Turkic, Mongolic and Tungusic languages all came from same language root namely Altaic. Korean and Japanese are some Turkic, some Mongolic and some Tungusic. When they all had/spoke same root language "Altai", they were very closely related like relative tribes and the population was much smaller than now. Koreanic and Japonic appear to be different from each other now but ancient Koreanic languages (such as Silla, Goguryo, Baekjae, Gaya, Buyeo, etc.) and anchient Japonic languages were very close - one was derived from the other without much details on which ones influenced/derived-from which. And those languages were very much close to Tungusic and Mogolic. Without much detail - Altai -> Turkic & Mongolic Mongolic -> Tungusic + ancient Koreanic & Manchurians + ancient Japonic One thing you have to understand is that we say "Mongolic" because Mongol was big but there was no nation named Mongol until 12th Century. They used to be called Mokuri/Moguri and Huns were in Buriyat region until 4th Century. And this word 'Mokuri/Moguri' has same origin with Goguryo's original name Gokuri/Goguri. So they were all very much closely related if not the same tribe. One thing the video forgets is the Native American (both North, mid/Mexico, and Southern American) languages being a part of Altaic. Some of those so called Indian languages (and cultures) are shockingly similar to ancient Koreanic & Japonic. FYI, Science proves that all human came from one mother. FYI, I'm going by what the history has written in past 4,500 years because there simply isn't any written prove beyond 4,500 years. And many Altai language based nations share similar history claiming Joseon/Suksin/Juzhan/Jurchen/Yuyeon/etc. to be nation mother nation/tribe.
+unitedKR also DNA of japanese is completely different to altaic people. we have D and O and not C... also we look different to mongols or turkish and even to koreans. only some koreans look japanese. maybe because of yayoi influence in south-korea.
+unitedKR and to native american... what shit you speak... also there was two or three waves to america. only the last hase connections to altaic. because for 25.000 years there was no altaic or korea or japan... japanese not altaic accept that kimuchi!
Hayato Mori don't be ignorant. people migrate and people migrate from mainland to islands, not the other way around lol. you want to say that japanese fell off from the sky onto the island but that just tells how ignorant you are. people from manchu, heading north via siberia migrated onto north america via Aleutian Islands as recent as AD 10-11th centuries. and no, not only 2-3 waves, but several waves of migration. and their migration history don't go back more than 10,000 years. maybe 3,000-4,000 years at the most. Aleutian Islands have a scientific and archaeological evidence of Ondol (traditional korean heating system) usage and those aren't more than 1,000-1,500 years old.
Anatolian Turkish.verb conjugations A= To (toward) (for the thick voiced words) E= To (toward) (for the subtle voiced words) Okul=School U=it's-(that) Git=Go ...Mek(emek)=exertion Git-mek=(verb)= to Go ( it's originally get-mek =to get there now on ) Gel-mek= to Come 1 .present perfect time (now or later) Yor-mak =~ to try (for the subtle and thick voiced words) A/E-Yormak= to try just mentally with.. I/i-Yormak=to try both physical and mental with.. positive.. examples.. Okula gidiyorsun ( you are going to school)= Okul-a Git-e-yor-u-sen (School-to go-to-try it's-you) (You-that try-to-Go to school) Evden geliyorum ( I'm coming from home) = Ev-de-en Gel-e-yor-u-men (thereat)-( Home-at then I try-to come) negative... Ma= Not and or Değil= it's not (Ermez=emas)= it's not got examples.. A: Okula gitmiyorsun ( you are not going to school)= Okul-a Git-ma-u-yor-u--sen (School-to go-not-it-try it's-you) -You that try it's-not-Go to school B: Okula gidiyor değilsin ( you are not going to school)=Okul-a Git-e-yor değil-sen (You aren't trying-to-Go to school) Question sentence: Ma-u ?=(is) Not it? is used as....Mı-Mi-Mu-Mü Okula gidiyor muyuz? ( We are going to school?)=Okul-a Git-e-yor Ma-u-men-iz (We are not Trying-to-Go to school ?) Okula gidiyor musunuz? ( You are going to school?)=Okul-a Git-e-yor Ma-u-sen-iz (You are not Trying-to-Go to school ?) Okula mı gidiyoruz? ( Are we going to school?) ( Not it to school we try to go ?) 2 .present simple time (at anytime soon if possible) positive.. (Bar-mak) Var-mak =~ to arrive (at) ...(to attain).....(for the thick voiced words) Er-mek=~ to get (at) ...(to reach).....(for the subtle voiced words) meaning....if possible this will happen (God willing--by god's permisson) inşallah Allah'ın izniyle.. examples.. Okula gidersin ( you go to the school)= Okul-a Git-e-er-sen (You get (at)-to-Go to school) Hergün erken kalkarım (I get up early everyday)= Hergün er-u-ka-en kak-a-var-u-men ( I that get-to-direct (myself) up when that early everyday) Birazdan evden çıkarız (We'll be out of the house soon)= Bir-az-dan ev-den çık-a-var-u-men-iz ( In the house then we get-to-go out.. after a bit ..) Beni Unutursun (you'd forget me)= Ben-i Unut-a-var-sen ( you arrive (at)-to forget (it's) me)-(~you've got it to forget about me) Arabaya Biner (s/he gets in the car)-if possible Araba-a Bin-e-er (s/he gets-to-ride to car)..by god's permission Babam İki Dakika Sonra Uçaktan İner (My father gets off the plane two minutes later) Baba-m İki Dakika Sonra Uçak-da-en İn-e-er negative... Ma= Not Bas-mak =~ to press (~to pass over) ...(for the thick voiced words) Ez-mek=~ to crush ...(for the subtle voiced words) meaning......Ma-bas= (no pass....) Ma-ez= (no crush...) example.. Okula gitmezsin ( you don't go to school)= Okul-a Git-ma-ez-sen (You no-crush--Go to school) Seni bilmezler ( they dont know you)=Sen-i Bil-ma-ez-ul-dier (s/he and others crush-not know about-you) O bunu yapmaz (s/he doesn't do this) = Bunu yap-ma-bas ( s/he no-pass--do this) Bu kalbimi kırmaz (that doesnt break my heart) = Bu Kalp-im-i kır-ma-bas ( This pass-not--break (that)-my heart) (Der-mek= ~to set) ... (used after the verbs ending in consonant) (is used as) ...Der-dar-dır-dir-dur-dür-ır-ir-ur-ür (Et-mek = ~ to make).... (used after the verbs ending with vowel and when the suffix "der" is used before) (is used as) ...T (Eş=partner)....together with- all together- with partner- about each other -or against the other (is used as) ...Ş (Al/el = get by...) (is used as) ...L (En=(self around) =about own) (is used as)...N (la/le = to make via)-~getting by means of -.~making that's got ..)... (used after the nouns and adjectives) (....le-mek-..la-mak.)....(...le-et-mek- ..la-et-mak) (..le-et-der-mek-...la-et-der-mak) (....lemek-..lamak.)....(...letmek- ..latmak) (..lettirmek-...lattırmak) (laş/leş =(ile-eş)= to become equal to..) (to become the same of..) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (....leş-mek-..laş-mak.)...(..leş-der-mek-...laş-der-mak)....(...leş-der-et-mek- ..laş-der-et-mak) (....leşmek-..laşmak.)...(..leştirmek-...laştırmak)....(...leştirtmek- ..laştırtmak) (lan/len =(ile-en)= to become with- having got ..) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (....len-mek-..lan-mak.)...(..len-der-mek-...lan-der-mak)....(...len-der-et-mek- ..lan-der-et-mak) (....lenmek-..lanmak.)...(..lendirmek-...landımak)....(...lendirtmek- ..landırtmak) (Uç-mak)= to fly (Uç-a-var)= Uçar=(that gets fly) (Uç-ma-bas)= uçmaz= doesnt fly (Uç-der-ma-bas)=uçurmaz= doesnt fly it (doesn't make it fly) (Uç-eş-ma-bas)=uçuşmaz= doesn't together fly Sür-mek = ~ to make it flow over (Sür-e--er)= sürer = lasts (goes on), (takes away) (Sür-der-e--er)= sürdürür = makes it to last forward ,(makes it to continue) (Sür-ma-ez)= sürmez = doesn't drive ... (2 won't flow over) (3. won't go on) (Sür-der-ma-ez)= sürdürmez =doesn't make it to go on (doesn't make it to continue) (Sür-al-ma-ez)= sürülmez =doesnt drive by any.. Sürü-mek= taking it away forward (or backward) (Sürü-e--er)= sürür = takes it away forward (Sürü-et-mek)=(sürütmek) sürtmek=~ to rub (Sürü-al-mek)=sürülmek.2=to get expelled (Sürü-en-mek)=sürünmek=to creep on (Sürü-en--der-mek)=süründürmek=~ to make that to get rough it (Sürü-et-en-mek)=sürtünmek=to have a friction (Sürü-et--eş-mek)=sürtüşmek=to get rubbed each other (Gör-mek)=to see (Gör-e-er)=görür=that sees.. (Gör-ma-ez)=görmez=doesn't see (Gör-der-ma-ez)=(görsetmez)=göstermez=doesn't show (Gör-en-ma-ez)= görünmez= doesn't show ownself (doesn't seem) (Gör-al-ma-ez)= görülmez= doesn't get seen by any.. (Gör-eş-ma-ez)= görüşmez= doesn't get seen each other (Tanı-mak)= to recognize (Tanı-ma-bas)= tanımaz= doesn't recognize (Tanı-et-ma-bas)= tanıtmaz= doesn't make it to get recognized (Tanı-en-ma-bas)= tanınmaz= doesn't inform about oneself =doesn't get recognized by any..(doesn't get known by any) (Tanı-eş-ma-bas)= tanışmaz= doesn't recognize each other (doesn't get known each other) 3.simple future tense (soon or later) Çak-mak =~ to tack ...(for the thick voiced words) Çek-mek=~ to attract , to catch , to pull, to take ...(for the subtle voiced words) example.. Okula gideceksin ( you'll go to school)= Okul-a Git-e-çek-sen (You attract-to-Go to school) negative... A. Okula gitmeyeceksin ( you won't go to school)= Okul-a Git-ma-e-çek-sen (You catch-to-not-Go to school) B. Okula gidecek değilsin (there's not you to go to school)= Okul-a Git-e-çek değil-sen (it's not you taking-to -Go to school) 4 . simple past tense (currently or before) Di = now on (anymore) Di-mek = ~ to deem , ~ to think, ~ to say is used as....(Dı-di-du-dü) example.. Okula gittin ( you went to school)= Okul-a Git-di-N (You have Gone to school) Okula gitmedin ( you didn't go to school)= Okul-a Git-ma-di-N (You haven't gone to school) Dün İstanbul'da kaldım (I stayed in Istanbul yesterday)= Dün İstanbul-da kal-dı-M negative... Bugün burada kalmadılar (They didnt stay here today) =Bu,gün bu,ir-da kal-ma-dı-ul,dar 5 . past tense (that we did not witness)- (just now or before) Muş-mak = ~ to inform , meaning... I'm informed about - I realized- I'm notice- I got it- I learned so - I heard that...or it seems so (to me) if it's in the question sentence...do you have any inform about...do you know..did you heard...are you aware or does it look like happened so ? is used as....(Mış-miş-muş-müş) example.. Okula gitmişsin ( I'm informed) you went to school)= Okul-a Git-miş-sen (I'm informed) You're Gone to school) negative... A. Okula gitmemişsin (I'm informed) you didn't go to school)= Okul-a Git-ma-miş-sen (I've been informed) You haven't gone to school) B. Okula gitmiş değilsin (I'm informed) you hadn't gone to school)= Okul-a Git--miş değil-sen (I've been informed) You aren't gone to school) others. Okula varmak üzeresin (You're about to arrive at school) Okula gitmektesin ( You're in (process of) going to school) Okula gidiyordun( Okula git-e-yor erdin) (You was going to school) Okula gidecektin ( Okula git-e-çek erdin) (You would go to school) Okula giderdin ( Okula git-e-er erdin) (You used to go to school) (2.~then you'd be to go to school) Okula gittiydin ( Okula git-di erdin) (I thought that) you've been gone to school) Okula gitmiştin ( Okula git-miş erdin) ( I know that) you had went to school) Dur-mak=to keep to be present there Durur=that keeps to be present there is used as....(Dır- dir- dur- dür- or Tır- tir-tur-tür) Bu bir Elma = This is an apple Bu bir Kitap = This is a book It's usually used on the correspondences and literary language... Within the official speeches its meaning is =(that keeps to be present there) Bu bir Elmadır= (bu bir elma-durr)= This is an apple keeps to be present there Bu bir Kitaptır= (bu bir kitap-durr)= This is a book keeps to be present there Within the daily talking its meaning is =( I think that or I guess that) Bu bir Elmadır= (bu bir elma-dur)= (Think that) this is an apple Bu bir Kitaptır= (bu bir kitap-dur)= (Guess that) this is a book Okula gidiyorsundur =( I think that) then you're going to school ) Okula gidiyordursun =( Guess that) You was going to school ) Okula gideceğimdir=( I think that)then I'm going to go to school ) Okula gidecektirim =(Guess that) I would go to school ) Okula gitmişlerdir =( I think that) they have been to school ) Okula gitmişlerdir =( They have been to school ) (officially) Okula gitmiştirler =(Guess that) then they were gone to school )
@@dimmmmmy3670 do you even know the dna of the turkish people? just search for it dear, our dna is the same with greek/south italian dna (because we are a mix of them, there are so many proofs, it would take only 5 minutes for you) so actually we are not middle eastern at all, just because turkey is in the middle east. also, South Korea and Turkey are brother countries 😘 You cry in the corner or somewhere. Also, what's wrong with being middle eastern? Israeli, Northern Cypriotics are amazing people for example!
@@trikebeatstrexnodiff many turkish wanna be korean's brother. lmao. when they just igrone turkish. u are middle eastern. ur brother are middle eastern.
Don’t care about it much, it was a simple video they don’t put much effort into it. Even they didn’t highlight most of the areas Turks live. Like Salar Turks in China, Gagauz Turks, but he just name the ethnic groups!
oh okay but can i ask u something do you think Kazachs and Krgyz the reason why they look asian is because they have mongolian ancestry or kazach and klrgyz have looked asian for thousands of years?
Natures River Korean : gang Japanese : kawa Mongolian : golyn Turkish : nehir Hungarian : folyó Sky K : haneul J : sora M : tenger T : gökyüzü H : ég Horse K : mal J : uma M : mori T : at H : ló Sea K : bada J : umi M : dalain T : deniz H : tenger Rain K : bi J : ame M : boroo orno T : yağmur H : eső water K : mul J : mizu M : us T : su H : víz cloud K : gureum J : kumo M : üül T : bulut H : felhő wind K : baram J : kaze M : salkhi T : rüzgar H : szél moon K : dal J : tsuki M : sar T : ay H : hold mountain K : moi J : yama M : uul T : dağ H : hegy stone K : dol J : ishi M : chuluu T : taş H : kő light K : bit J : hikari M : gerel T : ışık H : könnyű
Mongolian tenger is barrow from Turkic teŋri/tengri(sky,god,heaven) also you must be read a lot research and Turkish tanrı/tanry(god) come from same root but not barrow
I'm thinking korean is not altaic different DNA, face, language even does not same japanese we are just Mysterious ethnic May be we are from the other planet lol
+Steven Lee 너나 답글 달지 말어라. 반대로 물어 볼께 넌 우리민족이 알타이 민족이라고 100% 장담할수 있는 증거나 문서가 있느냐? 어디까지나 저거 가설인거 알고는 있는거냐? 그나마 믿을만한 가설이라서 알타이족 이라는 가설을 믿는거 뿐이란다 100% 가 아니야 다른 가능성도 두고 있다는거지 임마
+Steven Lee 지금 겨우 그거 비슷하다고 몽골어랑 한국어가 비슷하다라고 한다면 넌 참 많은 오류에 빠질거다. 너가 스스로 오류에 빠지는 꼴이 되는거라 말이야 나도 우리민족인 북방민족이라는걸 많이 믿는 편이지만 blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=0ZMzh&articleno=1862&categoryId=1®dt=20130621101406 여기 링크에 글도 보면 아마 까무라 칠꺼다. 타밀어는 남쪽 언어지만 그것도 너처럼 고대어라고 해서 인터넷 검색하면 나오지는 않는 그런 자료도 아니고 최근에 교수가 타밀지역 가서 직접 알아 온거란다. 그래서 말야 조금 경우가 비슷한것이 들어 맞다고 100% 확답을 하면 안되는 거야 그러다가 인실좆되는 거란다. 이말 명심하렴
Steven Lee 거기서 몽골이 왜나와요 저 한국 사람입니다 혹시 스스로 생각해봐도 님 생각이 틀렸다고 생각되니 스스로 그걸 인정하기 어려우신건가요? 왜 갑자기 조선족 이야기를 꺼내시죠? 그리고요 저 몽골 좋아 합니다 여유되면 몽골 여행도 하고 싶구요 몽골 음식도 먹고 싶은 사람입니다. 공과 사는 구분합시다 아마추어 같이 왜이러세요 그리고 님이 주장하시는 알타이가 틀렸다고 말한적도 없구요. 제가 처음 말한걸 잘 모르신다면 저의 의견을 다시 말씀해드리죠 잘들으세요 저는 우리민족이 알타이 민족이라는걸 믿지 않습니다 더 정확히 말하면 100% 신뢰하지 않는 다 말입니다. 왜냐하면 100% 밝혀 지지가 않았거든요 여러 가설들이 있지만은 아직 믿는건 없어요
Steven Lee 그건 또 무슨 말인가요? 제가 김정은 좋아한다구요? 없는말은 지어 내지 마세요 아니면 링크좀 걸어주세요? 만약 제가 진짜로 그런 비슷한 말을 했으면 아마 장난으로 했을겁니다 김정은 뒤졌으면 좋겠다고 생각하거든요. 그리고 위 주제와 관련된 것이 아니라면 더이상은 답변 하기 곤란 하군요. 계속 쓸데 없이 님 말에 답변하기는 힘드니까요
I find it fascinating that so much people are commenting about how fake it is. Why does it even matter if a language is Altaic or not. The languages share common things, that's a fact. Probably not enough. But you ain't gonna tell me that families like Indo-European have something in common. I speak English and Dutch and understand German. These languages sounds NOTHING like Armenian, Greek, Hindi, Singalese, Albanian, Serbian, Persian, Afghan, Tadjik or Ossetian. You get my point.
RADİCAL TÜRKİYE -ANATOLİA we are not a altaic people...but Japanese language has many similarities with altaic languages...i think japanese is a part from this language family
that's very controversial things. but recently korean is believed to be one of altaic languages or acient altaic language and seperated earlier than other languages in Altaic family. and old chinese has two things like SOV, SVO because when north china were ruled by another forces from north, they got affected from altaic languages.
And then korean spread altaic language to japanese. for many years later korean and japanesr languages changed by their taste but some of the words and grammar type left in now korean language though it became completey different now. Thats why we say its half and half
The hazara, which roughly refers to "Thousands" is a reference to the Mongol army that was marching to the siege of iraq, midway they were not needed so the battalian settled in central afghanistan.
Japanese is not altaic. altaic is old and obsolete. here japanese classification: オーストリック大語族（Austric languages）： °オーストロアジア語族 （austro-asiatic） °オーストロネシア語族 （austronesian） °タイ・カダイ語族 （tai-kadai） °アイヌ語 （ainu） °日本語族 （japanese） ° ニハリ語 （nihali） °モン・ミエン語族? (hmong-mien?) generally included °シナ・チベット語族? (sino-tibetan?) rarely included
The Finns and Estonians are not Altaic. They are Uralic. It has been hypothesized that they were Altaic, but not since the 1950s and now that hypothesis is widely rejected.
Andres Karel I agree. Just check what the United Nations Organization for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) has to say -- it clearly lists Korean as an isolate language and Japanese as part of the Japonic language family, neither of which are Altaic.
The "Altaic Language Family" is only a proposed language family which still has lots of debate. It is not accepted by many linguists. The widely accepted language families are Turkic, Tungusic and Mongolic families. Generally, people consider Korean and Japanese as language isolates.
u sure man are u mongolian do you think the krgyz and kazachs are of mongolian decent aswell? like i mean like the way the kazach and Krgyz look its beause of serious mongolian heritage?
please what????? koreanic is isolated language family. theories about origin are dravido-korean, some say austronesian, others support paleo-asian origin together with japanese, ainu and nivkh. i think it is isolated, but some korean linguists say it has similar origin with dravidian. there are many similar words and SOV agglutiantive and syntax, also old legends told from indian princess marred a korean prince in gaya, tamna kingdom in jeju had tradeing outposts in indonesian and sri lanka. korean words for agriculture are same as dravidian. japanese-phonology same as polynesian languages(maori/hawaii) altaic is debunked. koreanic and japonic are not altaic.
