Yeah it doesnt thats why autosomally finns are most close to germanic peopel and no, asians arent our brothers. Tell me where the other Y haplogroups came from? Hmmm?
@@paskasaatana6298 of course, we're not your brothers. We're your grand-uncles. You guys are a result of related Siberian Asian men intermixing with Germanic women. 😂😂
They tried to build narrative that Europeans are Europeans but can't explain why e.g Finns have 60% and in eastern part even over 70% share of N-M231 (very Siberian) while less than 1% in Europe generally.
Makes no sense... I think you are not european what means you have low iq and you are arrogant so you dont undertand how genetics work. But yeah european power🇫🇮💪🏻
The Indo-Europeans were from south central Asia not far from Uralic peoples, not Europe. Finns are Central Asian paternally, but western European maternally (Western Hunter Gather - U).
This video makes a big mistake. It's mixing genetic and linguistic roots. One of the first things, that archeology students are told not to do. Talking about the origin of Uralic people only makes sense as long as their ancestors language can be classified as Uralic. Uralic is a language group, and it should not be strictly associated with one haplogroup (especially becouse haplogroups are not a very modern method for genetic classification). Think of it like this: What would happen if we forgot the history of Mexico and the latin speaking countries, and we went there for the first time? We would associate Native American genes with romance languages.
@@kleo2983 Haplogroups are overrated. Y chromosome is 1 of your 46 chromosomes. People use haplogroups becouse it's simple. But in reality it's an obsolite method and autosomal studies give a much broader picture. You can't really tell anything by haplogroups out of dominant paternal liniage. One small migration can change the happogroups of a native majority people, if they are less agressive. This is why people with the same haplogroups can look totally different.
Ethnicity is not gens but culture and language. Finns and estonians have finnic language and culture just like karelian, vepsian, ingerian etc. So we are ethnicly finnic even without any genetic studies.
@@anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 That might explain why Finland has got most blond hair and blue eyes in The world. Also they are pretty tall. The Look like any other Nordic ppl.
If what you are saying is true, then British people are not related to Spaniards because of R1B2? So Navajo people are not related to Hungarians, but they do share langauge similarities. But Navajo are related to Mansi and Mansi are related to Hungarians. Now we are stepping into Tower of Babel territory.
I have deep Hungarian ancestry, on my paternal side all known ancestors are Hungarian. I just got my 23andMe Haplogroup report: N-M46! Proud to have the Uralic marker.
Yakut is not a assimileted Finno-Ugric people. Yakut is origin Turkic people. Our direct ancestor is buried in Monglolia in Hunnic grave Eygiin Gol (300 BC) with Yakut subclade N1c1 M2019
Omg Warcraft 3 is my favorite game, great music choice :). I'm an American with n-m36, didn't know my male ancestors came from Finland. It's interesting to learn how they migrated from China during the bronze age to Scandinavia. I'm half Anglo-Saxon and half Scandinavian with blue eyes, thin light brown hair and very blonde facial hair. I always thought I looked a little different than most other white Americans until I saw what Finnish people looked like, it's crazy how similar and I never even knew.
My great-grandmother was Scottish. Her father's line was N-P189 (N2) which broke off from the northern lines end ended up in the Balkans. From there they went to England, go figure. I originally thought that line was from Finland via the Vikings (Finns/Sami joined the Vikings) which makes more sense for Scotland, but nope. I found that weird.
zlatan Koenig Genetic studies done on the male remains of preconquest Magyars (ie the ruling class of medieval Hungary in the early years of its statehood) have shown that they were indeed Haplogroup N. In fact speakers of Khanty and Mansi which are the two closest living Ugric relatives of the Hungarian language in Siberia also have plenty of Haplogroup N, in the range of 60-70%. The population of Hungary however consisted largely of Ugricised Slavs who had the language and culture of the ruling Magyars imposed over them, hence most Hungarians today have the Slavic marker R1a. Interestingly, the reverse happened in Russia. Many ethnic Russians especially in the northern part of European Russia mainly consists of Russified Finno-Ugric peoples like the Finns, Estonians, Moksha, Erzya etc. hence they are culturally Russian, they speak Russian as their native language but they carry Haplogroup N. In fact, one of the most prominent figures in Russian history who is a Russified Finno-Ugric person is the Rurikid family, including Rurik himself: who laid the foundation for the formation of Rus’ and what is today Russia. Y-DNA tests carried out on Rurik and his descendants (including all members of the Rurikid Dynasty eg Ivan the Great, Ivan the Terrible, Alexander Nevsky) have all came back as Haplogroup N. Rurik was likely not of Viking (Germanic) origin but likely of Finno-Ugric / Uralic origin instead. It is recorded in history that Rurik was descended from the Varangian tribe, however the Varangians themselves consisted of some Germanicised Finno-Ugric / Uralic peoples like the Kvens of northern Scandinavia.
@Draken 60-70% of Finnish males have Y-DNA Haplogroup N which is found in very high frequency amongst Siberian Turkic and Finno-Ugric / Uralic speakers like the Nenets, Nganasan and Yakuts/Sakha who have 90-100% Haplogroup N. This suggests that 60-70% of the Finnish population did at some point originate in Siberia as males with the Haplogroup N-M231 mutation is believed to have originated in Southern China and spread north to Siberia where it became extremely concentrated (often 90-100% amongst many Siberian ethnicities). Of course Y-DNA Haplogroup alone does not determine the way Finnish people look, as often Y-DNA Haplogroup dates back thousands of years and autosomal DNA has a greater impact on the way a person looks. I also have paternal Y-DNA Haplogroup N myself but I am of Southern Chinese ancestry and I don't look European at all (maybe except for my height. I'm 6'4). Finns could very well have near 100% European autosomal DNA, no one is denying that. But their paternal lineage which goes back way further is undoubtedly Siberian or Northeast Asian in origin.
@@YummYakitori - loved your comment! I'm 50% Finnish as my mother is full Finnish. I've had people my entire life ask if I have Asian ancestry and I always said, "not that I know of." My mother and grandparents, etc never spoke of an Asian connection but it now all makes sense. My daughter is only 1/4 Finnish and she also has similar traits (high cheekbones, almond shaped eyes & hooded eyes)
@@sisu4134 As a Hungarian, my race was always questioned as a child. I have epicanthic folds on my eye and my eyebrows are quite high up so actual east Asian people in our Asian market would ask my mom if she has an East Asian husband because honest to god, I did not look white. Now I grew up and those features kinda blended out, but I still get questioned if I have east Asian Ancestors.
R-haplogroup was born very near to N-haplogroup, about the same time. About 25 000 years ago in Siberia or Central Asia, earliest samples from the Altai Mountains. R1b is nowadays very common in Western Europe Celtic region: Ireland, Scotland, Western France, Northern Spain, and in Central Africa. Actually the Middle-East and Central Africa branch is older than the European branch. It's found all over Europe and Middle-East all the way to Siberia. And R1a is found very common in North-India, Pakistan, Slavic peoples and Uralic Hungarians and Mari. You can make another video expaining the brotherhood of all 3 continents!
@monstercrazy441 It's not a gene. The ancestor of haplogroup R is haplogroup K2 from South-East Asia. K2 is the ancestor to both R and N haplogroups. R haplogroup's children R1a and R1b have spread from the India-Pakistan-Afghanistan region about 20 000 years ago.
@Big man Crash They are older. Look at the phylogenetic tree of the said haplogroups. They started in Central Asia, expanded into Middle-East, Arabia and Central-Africa.
The Central African lines are descended from West Asian and Middle Eastern lines and are YOUNGER than all of them due to a back migration from the Middle East people into Africa.
Are you certain K is from SouthEast Asia? K's origin was known to be Southern China(more SouthWestern in Tibeto-Burman modern day areas) in some articles I've read. I know you are Thai, but can you verify your sources? Genetically most Thai-Kadai at O-M95(O2) meaning that O-M119(O1) was an earlier wave of O on China's Eastern Coast and Oceana. If K2a's true origins were in modern day Thailand, then explain why there are not more mutations of other O and N subgroups? N is very diverse in North China and Siberia and O1, O3 are very high level in Asia+Oceana everywhere EXCEPT southeast Asia where O2 is bottlenecked. Thanks
It's been established by many geneticists and linguists that Haplogroup N did not originate or split up from O in Southeast Asia but likely somewhere in the area of Southern China. Also the main ethnic groups in Southern China with Haplogroup N are not Tai-Kadai speaking people but rather the Lhoba, Hani and Yi which are Sino-Tibetan / Tibeto-Burman peoples
@@ali40589 Yes you are right. I am Singaporean Chinese with ancestry from Southern China (specifically eastern Guangdong and southern Fujian) which was historically inhabited by the Hundred Yue tribes prior to widespread Sinicization of the area. The ancient Hundred Yue (or Baiyue 百越) tribes were mainly Tai-Kadai or Hmong-Mien speaking, though some researchers have suggested an Austronesian presence too mainly on the eastern coast. Chinese people only arrived in the area of Southern China during the Qin-Han dynasties around 2000 years ago. Recent evidence actually suggests that Haplogroup N originated in the north (possibly southern Siberia) rather than southern China or Southeast Asia. If you visit the yFull website, some of the earliest branches of N to have split off (mainly N-P189.2) today is mainly distributed in Russia's Altai Republic, the Balkans (Serbia, Montenegro); with ancient samples found in northern Kazakhstan's Botai culture (together with another ancient sample of R1b), the site of the world's first domestication of horses. I also belong to Haplogroup N by the way, but it is very rare among Chinese people (around 3-4% in southern China, 6-8% in northern China); my ancestors likely migrated from northern China to southern China. Many Southern Chinese today actually do still have Southeast Asian paternal lineages such as O1a-M119 or O1b1-PK4, those are the descendants of Sinicized Hundred Yue peoples.
@@YummYakitori O1a are an Austronesian haplogroup and yes Liangzhu culture in Yangtze are Austronesian. Liangzhu are said to be the homeland of Austronesian speaker, also Tai-Kadai are said to be originally Austronesian that's why a lot of them still carry very little O1a.
@@YummYakitori O1b1 are an Austroasiatic haplogroup, Tai-Kadai people belong mainly to this haplogroup but they don't speak an Austroasiatic language??🤷🏽♂️
Ok guys serious question.....my husband has never met his father and now there are four or five possibilities..should we get him one of the name brand dna tests and if so which one or is there a better alternative??? Thank you for any advice
This video gets several things quite wrong. Samoyeds are Siberians, not Mongoloids, completely different thing (see later comment). Uralic ancestors were not Asians, the haplogroup N was born somewhere in Eastern Asia: that's completely a different thing. N Haplogroup is over 20 000 years old, Uralic group developped earliest 8 000 years ago. The haplogroup had VERY WIDE SPREAD long before Uralic language group was born somewhere in Eastern Europe (maybe Volga River region). The earliest loanword layer in Uralic languages is from Proto-Indoeuropean languages, they were developping as neighbours, many paleolinguists now support that Uralic and Indoeuropean languages may have a common ancestor. And you gotta see the PHYLOGENETIC TREE of the haplogroup, it's similar to a family tree, branches forking forward, when there is a branch low on the tree, the branches high in the tree have nothing to do with those that branched millenias ago. Samoyeds are not East-Asian (preferred over "Mongoloid" term nowadays), they are Siberian. Mongolia was conquered by the Xiongnu empire between 200 BC and 100 AD when they drove the Indo-Iranian languages speaking peoples away from Mongolia. It was then when East-Asian phenotype came to Mongolia, before both Western China and Mongolia were inhabited by Europoid phenotype of people. The Samoyeds lived around Ural Mountains (a lot west from Mongolia) thousands of years before. The "Mal'ta boy" lived western side of Lake Baikal about 24 000 years ago. His DNA is the model for the ANCIENT NORTH EURASIAN (ANE) people. The ANE people made a big component of the EASTERN EUROPEAN HUNTER-GATHERERS (EHG) people's genome, about 75% is from the ANE population. Also the the Yamnaya (the Kurgan Culture, linguistically the Proto-Indoeuropean (PIE) people) people, have about 50% component descending from the ANE-people, and the related Afanasievo Culture people as well. The EHG people models are the two 8 000 - 7 000 years ago (Mesolithic - Middle Stone Age) people found in KARELIA (Karelia is the historical province of Eastern Finns, Karelians). In the Americas the ANE people make 30% - 40% of the genetic component - except with Eskimos who have the smallest percentage of ANE ancestry, and are the latest Native American migration to America, part of the late Asiatic expansion. Early Europoids (Caucasians) in Mongolia and Western China: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_North_Eurasian en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal%27ta%E2%80%93Buret%27_culture en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu They conquered Mongolia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Early_history en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies Indoeuropean languages speaking cultures who lived in Mongolia and Western China: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordos_culture en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saka en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuezhi Edit: "many paleolinguists now support that Uralic and Indoeuropean languages may have a common ancestor."
This is beautiful but my ancestry line is truly puzzling I can't figure out my racial origins and I live in Iraq and we're told we're Arabians but it's unclear and shrouded.
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@@Miamizs89 - awesome, thanks! I just checked it out and when I looked them up it said they are a 3rd party testing company so you'll need to have your basic DNA run through a genealogy company first (i.e. 23andme, myheritage, ancestryDNA, etc.) Can you recommend one? I've looked into each one of those and I ALMOST went with CRI genetics but was too worried bc of some feedback. It's almost like every company had some horror story attached to it.
@monstercrazy441 Europeans are a huge amount of peoples, Caucasians even more huge. You could as well say genes of all people is the same. And that is true in large scale, but in details there are differences.
@monstercrazy441 Nope, they aren't. There's even ancient saka-language writings survived that predate Turkic conquest, and relative languages still alive.
@@duhni4551 False, Caucasian to a racial category with certain shared phenotypic and genetic traits, Caucasians are from Europe, the Middle East, North Africa and a bit of South Asia (North India and Pakistan). East Asians in general are Mongoloids, however in South Asia, mainly in India, we can find Australoids and in Oceania this component is dominant, then sub-Saharan Africa they are Kogoids (Black)
@@duhni4551 Before it was thought that the Caucasians originated in the Caucasus hence their name, however today thanks to genetic studies we know that they originated in the Middle East and from there they moved to Europe 40,000 years ago and to North Africa (period unknown)
@@duhni4551 Genetic analyzes of the Amazing (Indigenous of North Africa) reveal that most of their genes come from the Arabian Peninsula, in Europeans the ancient lineages come from the Arabian Peninsula while the most recent lineages seem to come from Central Asia but only paternal lineages
@@eltecnico9541 Very true and it is no wonder, first Europeans came from East- Europe around 50-60k years ago. Also there are small corner in the EU where instead of Central- Asia, it is South- West Asia, from there to Urals and from there to Siberia and from there to North- America and also to Baltics. This has happened around same time, at least the separation of the 2 Uralic main tribes.
Russia, Ural Federal District, the city of Yekaterinburg is the capital of the Urals. Institute of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, students from the Urals District. First Day 2023. Student song "Orange beret". Uralic russians. /watch?v=7CFPwJjeIYM
제니Jenni Some Uralic peoples in Scandinavia, especially Saamis, have some East Asian maternal haplogroups such as Z1a1 and D5a3a1a (D5a3a1 was found in two Banlashan samples of Hongshan culture, Northeast China. And Hongshan has a lot of haplogroup N's, mainly N1b; nearby regions have N1a1a's)
You look European because you are white assimilated by a yellow people, if do not like that. Sorry! Your language is a turkic-mongolic language. Right?
@@Linduine The Uralic branch is a part of Turkic-Mongolic languages! In fact, you are white Europeans assimilated by some peoples of yellow race. Your languages are not Europeans but your faces are Europeans! How is that? The yellow peoples were very violent and cruel and brave, so they did to assimilate you. They did it! All European peoples are relatives, you not! Your languages are Asian and your race is white! Incredible! The Finns and the Hungarians recognise that their languages are sisters of Japanese, Korean etc. languages! The Finno-Ugric languages are Turkic--Mongolic! A branch! The Japanese, Korean languages has many words by Turkic origin. IN FINNLAND IS A CITY SO CALLED TURKU. IN HUNGARY IS A CITY SO CALLED MAKO. IN JAPAN THERE ARE NAMES LIKE MAKO! When I heard your languaes, I fought they are Turkic-Mongolic languages. Almost the same! We, the other Europeans did to assimilate yellow peoples when arrived to Europe, peoples like Huns, Avars, Bulgarians, Pechenegs, Cumans etc. You not! You were assimilated by the peoples of yellow race, even you were a white majority. The yellow peoples were a yellow minority, instead they did to assimilate a white majority like you, because they were very violent, cruel, brave and prepared to fight! You not! Sorry!
@@MD-xm6ub Again, Uralic doesn't belong to the Altaic branch, would it be Mongolian, Tungusic or Turkic. It is its own branch that consists of Finno-ugric and Samoyedic languages. That the Uralic subculture came from Northern China doesn't mean that the turks and finno ugric people are related.
Back when the Mongols were ravaging Eastern and Central Europe, they recruited some soldiers from the lands of the Volga Finns, who were led by the Mordvin princes, and after they ended their conquests, some of the soldiers decided to stay in Western Ukraine and Central Poland. Maybe you're a descendant of those mighty Finno-Ugric warriors?
@@yumallah Quite unlikely. IMO it is more likely that Poles have it due to intermixing with Lithuanians especially during the time of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Lithuanians themselves have about 30% of Haplogroup N, and even the Lithuanian Duke Gediminas was found to have Haplogroup N, as did the ruling class of the Rurikid era in Russia
It was debunked several decades ago. But in Turkey they still keep these old concepts of Altaic, and even Ural-Altaic language families. It gotta serve some nationalistic greater Turkish idea, don't know why else they are almost a century late with Ural-Altaic and several decades what comes to Altaic family.
Nope, they just get more mixed closer our age we come but when you follow them other way around you will get quite detailed picture about how people have migrated and immigrated together, resulting such groups like Indo-Europeans which are people who consists 3 European base groups for example.
you are not entirely wrong, there is no point in attaching genes to nationality and looking for a specific race that represents your nation. It is very arbitrary. We are all diverse and no nation is entirely homogenic, and there is no need for it to be so. Unless if course you wanna draw up some political narrative to suit your agenda.
Look, Ural Federal District, Republic of Bashkiria, Neftekamsk medium City (131,900 population). The funeral of 3 Bashkir warriors who died in Ukraine: "... in the performance of their military duty for the political interests of Russia..." (against the Hegemony of the US in East Europe and the Dollar (Colonial) System) RIP. *j00dczaoFBM*
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liao_civilization "A genetic analysis of human bone remains dating back to 6500 to 2700 BC. in the Liao area, Haplogroup N (Y-DNA) (frequently in Uralic peoples and Yakuts) was observed at 60-100%"
Terence Lee In fact, I'm not a scholar for the genetic study. I don't have a knowlead about something, just like X people, mt-DNA etc. I know only the knowlead I focused (most of them are about my peoples, Thai). And I never benefit any from my video. I made because "need to make" only. Most of video I made for resist with other youtubers. In real life, I don't have a many time for this. My bussiness want me too.
haplogroup O and N have roots in eastern india. while haplogroup R and Q have roots in northern india. one went to north west while other went north east. they all have roots in indian subcontinent
@Big man Crash no you dont some of yall are Haplogroup N which is a brother to Haplogroup O. You guys also got haplogroup I, haplogroup J as well . You got many people who were once brown or dark skinned , but eventually became ehiterdue to mixing with ehite or indo European people
There are two Major Paternal Haplogroup in Asia which descent 2.5 bio descendant from one man who have NO Paternal Hapgroup. I really believe that NO Haplogroup is Magog son of Japeth. Paternal Haplogroup O : 🇨🇳🇹🇭🇹🇼🇻🇳🇰🇷🇸🇬🇯🇵🇮🇩🇲🇾🇵🇭🇰🇭🇧🇳🇧🇹🇲🇲🇳🇵🇰🇵🇲🇴🇱🇦 Paternal Haplogroup N : 🇰🇿🇰🇬🇺🇿🇦🇿🇹🇲🇲🇳🇫🇮🇭🇺🇷🇺 We Mongoloid should take back our pride !!!!! Our eyes maybe small, our body maybe short but our brain is bigger !!!!! We are the Son of Japeth Son of Noah !!!!
Já mám haploskupinu N chromozomu Y protože jsem muž nositel Haploskupiny N, ale ženy nemají chromozom Y takže nemužou být nositelem chromozomu Y žádné haploskupiny DNA Y.
Ural Altai kurgan kültüre langue Türkics .... DNA R Gurup R1a gurup R1b gurup Türk ... R1a gurup langue Türkich Kazakistan kırgızistan özbekistan tacikistan tataristan R1a gurup Türk ...................... R1b gurup Türk langue Türkich Türkiye Azerbaycan Türmenistan uygur Başkurtistan Tuhav yakutistan karakalpak gagavuz Tunkga Bulgar kırım tatar R1b gurup Türk çoğunluk olarak
Avsar lar oguzlar icinde farkli renkli goz fizik olarak iri ler bence avsar lar n fin ogur daha baskin avsar lari srilanka l haplogrobuna baglayan arastirmacilarida okudum tam bir karmasa avsar
The Saami are Caucasian their Mongoloid morphological features are close to Yeniseian people (Haplogroup Q). They got their slight Mongoloid facial features from them.
Okey most of them were Caucasians who assimilated to Uralic language and culture system. But N peoples were the creaters of Uralic language and culture system. Do you know native Americans (yellow) are the brother of Europeans (white)?
These are total rubbish, is the most stupid theory i ever, but ever, heard . Just look at a finnish person and to a chinese one. And, hungarian are relative ( kindred) with native americans!!!!!!!! Ha, ha, ha, he,he,he, hi, hi, hi,.....now, at least, we find where should be the borders of Great Hungary !
