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The ANSWER! Cheap violin bow vs Expensive violin bow. Which is which? 

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@heyits_cat8966
@heyits_cat8966 5 месяцев назад
I guessed b from the first demonstration. The little ring it has, made it more complex and layered, more rich. I got it right!
@moltenspageti
@moltenspageti 5 месяцев назад
Same
@partyponyz1239
@partyponyz1239 5 месяцев назад
Exactly what I heard
@missbeans
@missbeans 5 месяцев назад
Yay I was right!! Bow B just had this more colorful voice, more range of expression. I am listening on my cell phone speaker as an adult beginner with only 1 year under my belt. Quite proud of myself! 😂
@jsmith8932
@jsmith8932 5 месяцев назад
And here I was hesitating on buying a $250 bow. I could actually tell a difference once I got it, but man I could only imagine the difference for a $2200 bow. Maybe someday. Thanks for all of the great videos!
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
You'll definitely want to buy the best bow you can reasonably afford. It makes a huge difference.
@HeatherRoesly0709
@HeatherRoesly0709 5 месяцев назад
I was correct with bow B. What CAN increase the price of a bow is some brands still use horsehair(from the tail) to create the strings due to their strand thickness, longevity, elasticity, and old customs from when they first started making bows.
@HeatherRoesly0709
@HeatherRoesly0709 5 месяцев назад
@vibratingstring I'm hurt by the mocking tone of your reply. You did not need to say it like that . . . .I hope you are kinder to others, you never know what could happen to you should your tone upset the wrong type of person.
@HeatherRoesly0709
@HeatherRoesly0709 5 месяцев назад
@vibratingstring seeing as how your tone hasnt changed, i am refusing your toxic energy and will no longer feed or expend or waste anymore of my energy on you. Good luck with life and bless your heart
@awesomebrad1112
@awesomebrad1112 5 месяцев назад
2200$ for A BOW i figured you could get rlly good ones for around 50-75$
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
lol. No. Classical soloists are playing on bows in the 6 figures.
@awesomebrad1112
@awesomebrad1112 5 месяцев назад
@@ElectricViolinShop WOW
@AdamThygerson
@AdamThygerson 5 дней назад
@@ElectricViolinShop But then you have the law of diminishing return where the sound doesnt get that much better for several thousands of dollars.
@charles_king
@charles_king 5 месяцев назад
It was very clear on $40 earphones yesterday
@partyponyz1239
@partyponyz1239 5 месяцев назад
Same for $20-$30
@MichaelRamirez-bs5fl
@MichaelRamirez-bs5fl 5 месяцев назад
To me bow b had a richer sound so that’s good to know
@ToolCriticNo9
@ToolCriticNo9 5 месяцев назад
Listening to this on a car stereo i guessed A was the expensive one, because B had anoying frequencies 😅
@ReaIAce
@ReaIAce 5 месяцев назад
$2200 is crazy for a bow. I know violin stuff is expensive but I could get my dream guitar plus amp setup for that 😭
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
$2200 is about where the line is between "cheap" and "intermediate" in the classical world.
@stephend50
@stephend50 5 месяцев назад
You can spend $70,000 on a bow, or more
@ReaIAce
@ReaIAce 5 месяцев назад
@@stephend50 ah hell nah 😭
@j.stephenbrown
@j.stephenbrown 5 месяцев назад
$2200 is a cheap bow. My wife plays with a $22,000 intermediate bow. 😉
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
@@stephend50add a zero to that.
@nickgoodall578
@nickgoodall578 5 месяцев назад
Great googly moogly!
@YvesLopez
@YvesLopez 5 месяцев назад
Wow 2200. That’s like another guitar🎸
@CaseyBDook
@CaseyBDook 5 месяцев назад
On my end, through my phone speaker, I really can't hear it.
@AaronMusicAI
@AaronMusicAI 5 месяцев назад
First I was wrong. I could not tell much becouse my second comment you the first guy I heard when doing a comparison talked about the way we heard it. Tiny Mike tiny headphones. I said this over Bluetooth as well. So I have great ears. I heard what guy said an extra tone. I thought that was from the bow not being good so it add mistakes. That what I heard it as over Bluetooth headphones. Thanks I started my journey in the guitar with my kids. My son loves the electric violin I love it to. I love looking at any content about instruments. He actually a beat boxer but he loves to hear the best electric violin players on Spotify and youtube he always showing me every new one he finds on RU-vid or Spotify. We love Can you do us a favor and give us the bands you play in and or the songs you play on. I love to put you on our play list.
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
Awesome. I’ve got my own thing going on. My YT channel is mattbellviolinist. I’m on Spotify as Matt Bell.
@JJ_TheGreat
@JJ_TheGreat 5 месяцев назад
I was completely wrong... But I still think, when I was listening through my headphones, that A sounded better - and that B was more scratchy...
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
So good point. B is more scratchy. And those higher frequencies are going to help the instrument project into the room a lot better. It’ll sound much stronger 100 feet away.
@jasperbennett8233
@jasperbennett8233 5 месяцев назад
I'm not musically trained or anything so I probably don't get it, but the first one sounded better than the second one to me.
@tr3ndkiller
@tr3ndkiller 5 месяцев назад
Sound pretty much the same on headphones 😂 B a little scratchier as in more annoying but barely
@LilCletus
@LilCletus 4 месяца назад
Yes it sounds better. But not 22x better. It seems most things violin including learning it are extreme examples of diminishing returns, much more so than other instruments.
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 4 месяца назад
Diminishing returns is definitely a thing. For me, the sweet spot on carbon fiber bows is around $500-600. Past that, they definitely get better, but the price goes up faster than the quality does. A $2000 bow is probably 50% better than a $500 bow. The question is, "How bad do you need that 50%?"
@RugerRino
@RugerRino 5 месяцев назад
I used my Bose earbuds and was guessing B but just guessing not sure I am ready to upgrade the bow I have yet if I don't know the difference yet
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
You’d feel it in a heartbeat.
@nightowl480
@nightowl480 5 месяцев назад
Since I think bow A sound better, it means I save so much money😅
@cronksmithy2883
@cronksmithy2883 5 месяцев назад
Sweet, I got it right
@mrschornst
@mrschornst 5 месяцев назад
In your opinion, What is the percentage contribution to quality between the stick and the hair?
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
99% stick
@pansatsujin
@pansatsujin 5 месяцев назад
bow B sounded like feces to me until I listened through decent headphones😅
@drewsaylor9028
@drewsaylor9028 5 месяцев назад
Do electric violins benefit from different styles of bows than acoustic violins?
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
Great question. My experience is that, with electrics and acoustics, your best bet is to do some experimentation to find the best combo of instrument and bow.
@jdwylde7
@jdwylde7 5 месяцев назад
$2200?????????? I don’t even want to talk about having to re-hair that thing. It’s at least the price of the “cheaper” bow. How exactly do you justify spending that on a bow? Seems like the violin choice would be more important. With the same hair, how does a simple bow design differ enough to make a $2,100 price hike, worth it?
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
Rehairs run around $100, regardless of bow price. And there are a lot of folks who would argue that the bow choice is at least as important as the violin choice.
@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer
@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 5 месяцев назад
Hmm im surprised i guessed right. I think i just got lucky
@Jss766
@Jss766 4 месяца назад
Here i thought my $70 bow was good
@coltonpuckett2661
@coltonpuckett2661 5 месяцев назад
Man you look like a 1100s king with that beard
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
Frantically googling "1100s king"
@coltonpuckett2661
@coltonpuckett2661 5 месяцев назад
@@ElectricViolinShop it means a good thing brother you look really good
@sammybeckett7371
@sammybeckett7371 5 месяцев назад
Was pretty easy to tell
@csreiter
@csreiter 5 месяцев назад
I was confused because you used video of the exact same violin twice, but I guess that is to prevent people from being able to tell which is which based on appearance. I could tell A was the cheaper one, because it sounded brighter, but flatter.
@kaboomsihal1164
@kaboomsihal1164 5 месяцев назад
violin? of course its the same violin, its about the bows... I'm confused
@moonliteX
@moonliteX 5 месяцев назад
Bow b was just louder. But you said it's important to have more complexity. Bow a was more complex (variable)
@nimicohgr
@nimicohgr 5 месяцев назад
It's impossible to tell the difference with the mic they're using and RU-vid compression. My audio setup is fine :D
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
I can hear it, but the difference is a whole lot less than what I heard in the room and what I hear on the raw video on my phone.
@kaboomsihal1164
@kaboomsihal1164 5 месяцев назад
lmfao they still sound exactly the same. But apparently I got it right by guessing the cheap one is the one that looks like mine. And turns out it costs the same too lol.
@jbjb679
@jbjb679 5 месяцев назад
If the hair is the same, you are not going to hear a difference on long tones IMO. The difference is going to come into play with different bow strokes/articulations. At the end of the day most non-pros won't really be able to take advantage of the difference anyway and should focus on getting a quality instrument which will give you a way better ROI
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
That's not really in line with what the experts say. The people who do this for a living would tell you that you should spend about 2/3 of your budget on the instrument and about 1/3 on the bow. And the hair isn't where the money is. The stick is.
@jcripp7974
@jcripp7974 5 месяцев назад
​@@ElectricViolinShopwhat type of wood is used on the high end bows? Where is the expense? The carving of the wood? Weight? Everything I suppose. The tension of the hair?
@torbreww
@torbreww 5 месяцев назад
I’ve never seen a grey bow before.
@WeThepeople-gr7on
@WeThepeople-gr7on 5 месяцев назад
Lets goo
@stephend50
@stephend50 5 месяцев назад
It was clear when you used sautillé
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
Is that what that’s called?
@stephend50
@stephend50 5 месяцев назад
@@ElectricViolinShop I think the Italians say "fast and bouncy"
@user-ug4lt3yr5w
@user-ug4lt3yr5w 5 месяцев назад
2200! I want to hear this in a different room with better acoustics, and or know what you're smoking.
@mememan5466
@mememan5466 5 месяцев назад
Whilst you can notice that the sound is nicer, that isn't the main reason for expensive instruments. Most of the time it is for how the my feel. If an instrument doesn't feel comfortable to play, it will sound like crap in the end
@Painted_Owl
@Painted_Owl 5 месяцев назад
Today I learned that my “expensive” bow is actually cheap 🫠
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 5 месяцев назад
Wait til you find out that THIS expensive bow is actually cheap. 😮
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