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The Anti-Trinitarian Theology of the Socinians (Intro to Trinitarian Theology) 

Dr. Jordan B Cooper
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This video is part of the Intro to Trinitarian theology series in which we discuss both orthodox Trinitarian theology and the departures from it that have arisen throughout the centuries. Here, we explore the development of Socinianism.

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@maypalmer
@maypalmer Год назад
Wow, this is awesome to have access to this information, Dr. Cooper! Thank you for your Just and Sinner channel. I have learned so much!
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 :)
@tronaristocrat7965
@tronaristocrat7965 Год назад
Thanks, this has been a great series. I send it to others, and I'll listen to each one multiple times while working.
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19
@unit2394
@unit2394 Год назад
I am absolutely stoked for the history of Unitarianism episode.
@anyanyanyanyanyany3551
@anyanyanyanyanyany3551 Год назад
Will you do a video series on Unitarianism in Britain and the American colonies? It's always fascinating that some of the most prominent founding fathers of the US were Unitarians, including John Adams and his son. Edit: 46:58 (A little sneak peek)
@DrJordanBCooper
@DrJordanBCooper Год назад
Yes. Those are coming in this series.
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
@@DrJordanBCooper☕️
@Steve7318
@Steve7318 Год назад
Thanks, I'm looking forward to this series and I'm using for continuing clergy education material.
@pamphilus3652
@pamphilus3652 Год назад
Thanks for your work jordan. I listen to most of your stuff and its great!
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19
@jorgelopez-pr6dr
@jorgelopez-pr6dr Год назад
The dads of Unitarians.
@DrJordanBCooper
@DrJordanBCooper Год назад
Basically.
@unitarianapologetics4669
@unitarianapologetics4669 Год назад
​@DrJordanBCooper Not by any stretch of the imagination. No one in the OT believed in a mutli-personal God, nor did they in the NT or for probably the first couple hundred years after the Bible. I would like to debate the issue with you if you're willing.
@unitarianapologetics4669
@unitarianapologetics4669 Год назад
Something along the lines of “Is Jesus God in the NT?”
@eew8060
@eew8060 Год назад
​@@unitarianapologetics4669 I agree with you! He won't accept the debate though
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19
@StaunchlyLutheran
@StaunchlyLutheran Год назад
I've only seen two of these but I am really enjoying this series. Thank you
@SettledChristian
@SettledChristian Год назад
Do you plan to speak about modern Unitarians such as Dale Tuggy? He seems to have a massive influence on modern Unitarian groups.
@DrJordanBCooper
@DrJordanBCooper Год назад
I'd have to spend some time reading/listening to him.
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19
@addisonbreton-df2fc
@addisonbreton-df2fc 10 месяцев назад
!!!!!!!
@robertbatista50
@robertbatista50 5 месяцев назад
The Socinian gathering sounded a lot like the Jesus Seminar.
@solafidedeum
@solafidedeum Год назад
🕆 John 3:16-17 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.,.🕆 Trust in the Lord don't be self-righteous learn to humble yourself and surrender to the word and will of God. Let the Holy Spirit guide you. Let God’s Peace and Grace be with you (To The Reader). Praise God always. Amen. 🕆🙏🙌
@fjz8307
@fjz8307 3 месяца назад
Unitarians rely on the Bible. It contains no doctrine of the trinity. There is only one God. Jesus Christ is His Son. He is human. He came to save the world. This is not hard to believe compared to orthodox Christian doctrine, which teaches that there are three persons in one God. They are each God, yet there is only one God. Jesus is both God and man. He is the same God. Why do people cling to such strange teachings? There is no direct evidence for it. Please read John 12:44-50 (says it all). Do not believe people. Study it for yourself.
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 :)
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Год назад
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". .
@oztuber2
@oztuber2 8 месяцев назад
be nice to see a video from a non trinitarian on socinianism. The bias just reeks of desperation when trinitarians do these videos on non trinitarian groups. They don't understand scripture anyway so its cringy watching them try. Anyone know a good video of a socinian or non trinitarian doing these videos... (not a jw they are worse than trinitarians when it comes to bias)
@unitarianapologetics4669
@unitarianapologetics4669 Год назад
Not all Unitarians are Socinians. In fact, we understand the Bible itself is Unitarian. Jesus is a Unitarian. All God's prophets, disciples, and apostles were Unitarian. John 1:1 is clearly a reference to the Genesis creation account. This is still a very informative video. Thanks.
@jonathandoe1367
@jonathandoe1367 11 месяцев назад
Even the Torah clearly affirms the Trinity, not to mention the rest of the Tanakh. If Moses was aware of a multipersonal God, why would the earliest Christians, including the well-educated Rav Shaul (who wrote most of the New Covenant, by the way), have been so unaware of it? And if the Gates of Hell had prevailed against the Church so early on, why does Scripture state explicitly that this would not happen? I think you need to seriously rethink your heresies and come back to the true Church.
@gianthebaptist
@gianthebaptist Год назад
Stop taking my material Cooper!
@euston2216
@euston2216 Год назад
14:33 - "The modalistic groups do tend to thrive among the less theologically educated." No surprise then, that the more theologically educated are completely blind to the revelation of the Father's *_self-sacrificial_** love* for us.
@jkbugout
@jkbugout Год назад
Earliest Christians were Ebionites, who were Unitarians.
@DrJordanBCooper
@DrJordanBCooper Год назад
No.
@YourBoyJohnny94
@YourBoyJohnny94 Месяц назад
Ebionites were not the earliest christians but the earliest heretics alongside gnostics.
@Catholic-Perennialist
@Catholic-Perennialist Год назад
Everyone knows that God is a trinity emmanated from a unity. Monad -> Father/Virgin Mother/Son
@jonathandoe1367
@jonathandoe1367 11 месяцев назад
I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand your comment correctly. Are you insinuating that the Blessed Mother is part of the Trinity? Or did you mean something else?
@Catholic-Perennialist
@Catholic-Perennialist 11 месяцев назад
@@jonathandoe1367 Functionally, that's exactly what she is.
@jonathandoe1367
@jonathandoe1367 11 месяцев назад
@@Catholic-Perennialist Surely, you recognize that Collyridianism is a condemned heresy, and this error seperates you from the Church catholic and apostolic? It is well-recognized that mere humans, including the Theotokos, may received dulia, but never latria. This is a serious theological error, I implore you seek grace through corrective instruction, not only for yourself, but also for whoever catechized you so incorrectly.
@Catholic-Perennialist
@Catholic-Perennialist 11 месяцев назад
@@jonathandoe1367 If you hold an interest bearing account at a bank you also are separated from the Church. Do not lecture me.
@jonathandoe1367
@jonathandoe1367 11 месяцев назад
@@Catholic-Perennialist No, usury is a matter of civil law, and I think the Reformers could well articulate how these practices are permitted amidst the temporal realm as the state may permit. Regardless, even if all moneylending were strictly prohibited, (as was often the ancient interpretation) that still does not raise it to the same level as declaring a mere human to be God. Some practices may see you excommunicated, but some beliefs put you outside of Christianity, and I'm afraid Collyridianism is one such belief, more so than Arianism or Nestorianism. You don't need to hear it on my authority, of course; feel free to consult any Church authority, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, or even among Anglicans and Lutherans.
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