The App from Apple Which WILL Destroy Freeform in 2023 

I don’t know. Well, they do these quick presentations during WWDC, but I agree that more could be done to show the power of their apps to more people. Glad you clicked on this clickbaity-sounding link and learned something valuable.

@@patrickstoeckmann I am sharing this with colleagues too! I've come across a few Apple features over the years that were never really discussed or talked up by Apple, but are so simple and useful. Best clickbaity link I've ever clicked on. Seriously. Thanks for doing this video.

Thank you for the kind words. Yes, I hope we will have better interoperability between all of Apples apps. Now that we have the same basic set of tools in Numbers, Pages, Keynote and Freeform, I hope that Apple will make it easier for them to work together.

Have fun!

I am considering it.

That is actually a wise choice. I think Freeform has its uses, but for now Numbers is way more potent most of the time.

Glad I could help you. Thank you.

Da hoffe ich drauf.

I did, you should check out: studio.ru-vid.comq-fkBPX8AlA/edit

Thank you and welcome.

Same! Saw it coming early on, though had bet more on Pages 😊 nice presentation!

So glad I worked for you and you got a pleasant surprise. Hope your usage of Numbers is now becoming more flexible. Great that you kept an open mind. Love it.

You can use Numbers for checklists. Create a 2 column table and in column A select the format checkbox. Boom you have your checklist.

Thank you very much.

Awesome. Glad you found me in 2023.

Glad I could teach you something new.

Thanks. Glad I could help.

Yeah, that is really a bummer.

Yes, Numbers is still ahead here. But of course the automatic removal is a great tool for this specific purpose.

Thanks for the kind words. Glad, you learned something new about an old app ;-)

Glad you sticked to the end and found something useful.

Zoom Notes is a great app for a single user, but AFAIK collaboration is not a primary focus here. So I think both apps have different usage scenarios. For note taking I agree it is superior.

Maybe this will help you: discussions.apple.com/thread/8192310

I too am looking forward to that.

Great you found your app (incl. Dark mode)

Thank you very much.

I hope it will come there too. Sometimes Apple needs a V2 to get it right.

Unfortunately no. I would put the PDF in an iCloud Folder, create a link via the Share menu and then copy that to either Numbers or Freeform. Then I would do the edits using the Files app on iOS/iPadOS or the Preview app on Mac.

Actually, Pages, Numbers and Keynote now have the same toolset than Freeform. The only difference is the canvas size and means of presentation. Pages is clearly defined by a printable canvas size, Keynote by a presentable canvas size while Numbers and Freeform share the paradigm of the infinite canvas size. That’s why I chose Numbers as the closest to Freeform.

That is a good use case. Thank you.

They all have the same set of tools, so Keynote is a close contender. Only difference is the slide (or page with Pages) paradigm as a size constraint. Not so with Numbers.

I doubt that. I guess that Excels dominance in the business world has a lot to do with its integration into other services like databases and of course the dominance of the MS Office Suite in the corporate environment. I guess Apple is not after these clients with its productivity suite.

Have fun with it.

@@patrickstoeckmann I've played with it. And you can have ACTUAL TEMPLATES. And you can change background color to something dark and save it as a template. And I've created a apple shortcut to create a new file with the template, so I don't have to delete default table every time and it's so quick. This is my "selling point", I'll be using numbers. It feels weird to whiteboard on "numbers" but it's actually way way better. Both apps have to add "holding the stroke for perfect shapes", like in Notes App. I mean, it's already built.

Sigh, I agree. Although I am not sure, whether OneNote had it with V1.0, so let's hope for the best ;-)

Have you tried using an external tablet with Freeform for Mac? I have no tablet to test it with, so I am not sure whether it will work.

@@patrickstoeckmann I don't have access to freeform yet, but OneNote / Miro / MS Whiteboard - all of them have "pen mode" that even work with a mouse pointer. That's why I assume freeform as a skerching app will have it as well. Too bad for numbers, I've checked it after watching your video and as you said - it works great on ipad

Unfortunately the sketching is also on Freeform limited to iPad. Let‘s hope the will improve upon it.

@@patrickstoeckmann Yes, unfortunately 😞. By the way, I had the opportunity to test Numbers during my university classes (mathematics) and within 2 hours I had to create a total of 4 tabs, because input lag appeared quickly in Numbers (ipad pro 12'9). So far, from my experience, OneNote wins in the infinite canvas category

Now you do 😉

You can import multiple photos into numbers by drag and drop from the photos app into the numbers app. However, Freeform improved upon that by making the insert dialog within the app better, I agree. Also when you import multiple photos into Freeform they get auto-aligned better than in Numbers, where they are all lumped together. About the zooming out - well Freeform doesn't also allow for indefinite zoom out level. It stops at 10% while Numbers stops at 50%, so yeah Freeform is better there too. I hope they will continue improving on Freeform. Don't get me wrong, I love the app. My biggest problem is that you can't really copy objects from and to other apps like Numbers. If they would correct that, you could do so much more with Freeform by allowing to add stuff that it doesn't do (like Tables) from other apps (like Numbers).

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise. Multiple photos drag and drop from photos to numbers only works on Mac. My personal preference is to use it on Ipad, there are folks just don’t have Mac and they nerves will. I would really like to see freeforms and numbers have some supports for database , Apple please give freeform smart folders, it’s very messy right now.

@@Thisnthat979 Oh yes, you can drag and drop multiple photos on iPad (and even iPhone). Just select multiple photos in the Photos app (via the Select button), then start dragging one and the whole collection will be dragged. Then switch to Numbers and drop them there. If you want to find out what else you can use drag and drop on iOS and iPadOS with I suggest you take a look at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RkKsCapm0f8.html

@@patrickstoeckmann Thank you for pointing that out, I tried on my iPad again, yes it works, I just have to be a bit patient.

I don’t have a drawing tablet, so I don’t know whether numbers will support them. However you can import drawings from the iPad, so you can combine them.

@@patrickstoeckmann Thanks for replying, yes you’re right. I sent them a request for this feature-"using drawing tablets with freeform” hopefully they add it.

LOL - that could be fun.

Thank you. Glad I could surprise you.

You could use pages, because they share the same toolset. But pages is based on the page paradigm, i.e. you start with a fixed page size. Freeform and Number however start with the infinite canvas idea, which makes it better for spreading out your ideas.

@@patrickstoeckmann ok, I didn’t know that. Thanks

Well all of the great tech companies have these kind of apps. Google, MS and now also Apple. If you go for cross-plattform your pick will NEVER be Apple 😉

@@patrickstoeckmann ikr🤣 but apple and their fan base act as if it's something new and revolutionary

Jamboard is discontinued resp. dead in the water, isn’t it?

It‘s revealed in the video at 07:40.

While Freeform gets better (slowly) - I think there are still a lot of use cases, where Numbers is the better tool.

Damn indeed ;-)

@@patrickstoeckmann I‘ve been dreaming of such an app since *2013* ie a non-clunky and non-annoying onenote and it‘s been sitting right there in front of me 😂 thanks for drastically improving my life

Glad I could help you with that.

Had I come out with the answer right out of the gate some people might have dismissed it because they are stuck in the old “Numbers is just like Excel just worse” mindset.

Glad I could blow your mind with this video. Have a wonderful holiday season.

Haven‘t had that problem. Did you include lots of media or are you using an older iPad? I found that with lots of media Freeform is actually faster than Number though.

How is it clickbait if I do a complete feature comparison including a table which shows that Freeform only has 3 features (links as cards, post-it notes and scans) which Numbers doesn't have. The "purpose" of an app doesn't matter, if the feature set allows for an alternative usage. And sorry to say, but take a look at the feature set, how can you call Freeform beyond all levels of superior especially when it comes to collaboration, when the collaboration feature is exactly the same in both apps. Please take a look at: www.dropbox.com/s/af2hpks6eerq3wf/Comparison%20Freeform%20vs.%20App%20X.pdf?dl=0 and tell me where exactly these superior levels are.

Tried Google Jamboard and Windows Whiteboard. Freeform is way better than any of those.

@@patrickstoeckmannit's clickbait because your title says that numbers will destroy Freeform.

Well, Apple doesn’t make money from Freeform as a service but by selling devices. Therefore I don’t expect them to release a non-Apple device collaboration feature. It is obviously another lock-in feature (like iMessage). And they suppose if you want to draw you are using the iPad as the drawing tool, not the clunky mouse. To be fair mouse drawing always is terrible. Somehow they won’t consider other drawing solution (which there are many for the Mac). Maybe this will come one day.

Same😢 Right now I use Miro. Do you use any alternative whiteboard apps?

@@cubingwithcarl4572 i switch between figjam and freeform. just because im a designer and already uses figma

That is great. Actually I was surprised when Freeform came out how much of it was already in all of the iWork apps. I could have picked all of them for comparison but due to the infinite canvas Numbers was the closest.

Well, most people never use Numbers in that way, so I wanted to show them unbiased what Numbers is also capable of. Agreed, that not all might like the setup, it wasn’t for increasing watch time it was for opening peoples minds up.

No, it is not possible to replicate that. There is currently no auto-aligning like with all these Mind-Map Tools. You can quickly create any diagram by dragging on the connectors and selecting any of the basic shapes, but you must align them by hand. So, while you can do Mind Maps with Freeform, you should go for other tools if you really want to have the Mind Map experience.

I guess they target different markets with it. Still, I hope you are right about the million views though ;-)