The ARC 170 was Misused... it's completely underrated 

I was about to say the same.

Id have to disagree. The 170 is by far my favorite fighter in all of star wars. But if I was bounty hinting I'd always go cargo style ship. The razorcrest and slave one fit the bill perfect. You want a motor home. Lots of cargo for bikes or beasts, storage for cryo frozen bounties, and modify it with a shit ton of weapons. The arc would be a cool idea. I really don't know how he's living out of an N1 right now but hey it was definitely cool to see it in the show

@@harrisonshute4675 Sure, but better compared to N1.

They actually did in Cannon

The rebels definitely used ARC 170's. Just not that extensively because: 1. They were produced in lesser numbers than other Clone Wars era fighters such as the Y-Wing and Z-95 2. They required a crew of 3 to be used to the greatest efficacy and the Alliance was constantly short of pilots

They would have been a great addition for using as scouts to shadow imperial fleets or scout out ahead of raids and fly as wingmen to Y-Wings on bombing runs and they probably could have rigged up a few new variants like a CAS or heavy escort fighter.

The X-Wing and Y-Wing were a cheaper option. Given the resources available to the Rebels, it makes sense

The alliance had two major issues being lack of funding and lack of personnel. The funding extends to maintaining stuff like ships and fighters but the lack of personnel is the big thing with the ARC-170. It's intricate enough that trying to maintain it would suck but more importantly the rebels did not have the sheer manpower to put three people in one fighter for a fight. Now having one or two ARC-170s per fleet would be great for the rebels but that is only for the major fleets the rebels were able to put together for scouting reasons.

and yet they didn't abandon the clone program after that battle.

​@@Virtue2721They knew the clones were for them to just throw at the enemy.

agreed!

Same. It was the engine sound for me. So cool.

Nah, it's still a fighter. But I'd classify it as a "heavy fighter", and lump it in among the B-wing and Tie Defender, very capable and specilized fighter. In the early CLone Wars it served this role, the V-19 was the standard fighter, then the Z-95, but essentially with Clone losses mounting the Republic shifted to quantity over quality, the Y-wing saw less and less use aling with the Z-95, and soon the doctrine shifted to an interesting state, the ARC-170 served a duel purpose as fighter and sometimes bomber, it would do the heaviest work against capital ships while the V-wing the new Interceptor focused more on dogfighting. Clones became more specialized to make up for their ever thinning numbers, all they could do as they could never outnumber the droids. Then I guess with the Clone Wars over the EMpire shifted it's doctrine, no longer fighting a huge galactic war liek the Republic it switched to using the V-wing, minus the Astromech, the V-wing was more producable and served the Empire well as they just dealt with pirates and small Rebel cells, worked well enough till the Tie Fighter was introduced and like the Clones, both fighters were fully replaced, now rlegated to scrap, sold off, stolen by pirates, or kept in semi Imperial service with defense forces and smaller Imperial loyal groups.

@@TheZamaron I wouldn't lump the Defender in with the B-Wing/ARC-170 "heavy" designation. Defender was a superiority fighter from the ground up: fast, maneuverable, hard hitting. It was the same size (roughly) as an X-Wing and served the same primary role: denying control of the battlefield to enemy fighters. Heavy fighters tend to fill more of a light bomber offensive role or an anti-bomber/anti-gunship defensive role. Bigger but usually slower guns than a superiority-type fighter. Heavier missile payload. Heavier shields/armor. ARC-170 would have been the "sports car" of the heavy fighter category when measured against its contemporaries like the B-Wing, Y-Wing, TIE Bomber, Xg-1 Assault Gunboat, but it's not mixing it up successfully against any superiority fighter

The 2nd too actually ARE.. those 2 combined have the right mix of speed, armor, an firepower in large numbers or good sized elite units without support fighters an Interceptors... Which basically is part of why Imp SDs have so many of them these fighters you mentioned would savage an butchered most Star Destroyer types. Cuz they're huge slow targets with not nearly enough anti fighter arms by itself otherwise

​@@robertagu5533the problem was the isd was one of the fastest capital ships, and such mostly all support ships couldn't keep up, though it should have carried more fighters

@@derrickmeade4891 yeah but that'd trade the problem of a famous battleship ALSO being a bit of a carrier being JUST mostly a famous carrier, NOT nearly as fearsome AND STILL create a problem of needing that Force Projection an Battleship that's capable of singlehandedly invading an bombarding planets along with taking on whatever minimal rebellious security elements at same time too thing.. something They probably can't afford or won't go out way to spare so they DONT look weak, vulnerable an invite more issues then they shoulda known better then already creat or make worse then was already

I can see the tactic that can be used with this combination The ARCs can be used to localize jamming of the destroyer's sensors. The X-Wings take on the tie fighters. And the Y-Wings tear the destroyer apart.

​@@derrickmeade4891The Empire could have solved this easily by building fast escort ships that always accompany an ISD. The Raider Corvette already fits the bill, and it can do other tricks like recon, and well raiding. It's Hangars are unnecessary but still could be used to collect Tie stragglers when the ISD jumps. And to deploy Ties on the far side of an enemy force or installation so that the ISDs Ties can attack in a pincer movement. But a fast anti fighter Corvette or just increasing the speed of the Lancer Frigate would have made ISDs "rebel-proof."

The Black Widow is even funnier looking in real life. One of my favorites.

Many fighter radars ARE located in the nose of their craft...

@@jtjames79 I love the black widows. built a model of one back when i was 10 or 11

@@melangellatc1718most fighters do, actually

​@@Parocha because of the Black Widow.

That is kind of interesting idea, big stable platform, plenty of armor...although it would probably messup the sensors on top.

Damn, close air support would be a decent role for that! Or, barring the Gatling gun, retune the massive medium laser cannons on the wings to have a lower power higher fire rate mode. akin to the AT-TEs mass driver as seen in the clone wars episode where Anakin and Ashoka rescue rotta, once they get the ATTE to the top of the butte and the droids come back to retake it, we see the mass driver shooting rapid but weaker shots. Adding a fire mode similar to that to the ARC-170s guns could also get the same effect with adequate stopping power as a medium laser cannon is already so overkill for a fighter bomber. Sorry, ARCs my fav ship and I just went off on a big tangent 😂

@@JediSentinal no problem bro, the ARC-170 is also my favorite ship in Star Wars

​@@GenerationTechI still stand by the video you guys did like 4 years ago talking about the flaws of this ship. TLDR: 10 flaws, and one of the biggest ones is - it's terrible for stealth/recon .

Agreed, the ARC-170 had such great potential and definitely would have benefited as a modular chassis with dedicated variants in other roles. Interestingly, the Republic had the PTB-625 which looks like a bomber variant of the ARC-170, but sadly it was only a planetary vessel.

Made me think of the A10

It's based on the P-61

Definitely has D-44 Dauntless vibes

It is definitely inspired by the P61 Black Widow

It’s the night fighter version of the Ju-88 for me. -larger than other fighters -heavy armament -reliance on electronics (onboard radar / sensors) -versatile enough to provide different services

Not so much that it wasn't ready, there just wasn't that many at the time. The few we could deploy were sent to Midway's air field and as Alan said did not fare all that well.

Nah the TIE is like an early jet Mig, it doesn't have missiles

@@p_serdiuk while you're absolutely correct, the production models of the F-16 always had missiles, some of the people involved in the procurement process wanted a guns only fighter for the F-16. Smarter people said that would limit the aircraft too much so strapped on Sidewinders and Sparrows, but a lot of the design of the aircraft incentivises close-in gunfights

@@jeremygrover5979 This story is actually a lie made up by one specific man, Pierre Sprey, but that's a WILDLY different and huge topic lmao The F-16 isn't really built for gunfights, it's built to acquire Sidewinder lock-ons while in a merge.

@@p_serdiuk interesting. I knew what the fighter mafia said was bantha poodoo, but didn't realize that even that aspect of the F-16 story was made up by them. I also now associate aircraft like the Hornet, Fulcrum, Flanker, and the Raptor to be more heatseeker based cause of their 1 circle capability, but that's probably just because of things like the AIM9X and the R73 that I think that. Makes sense that something equipped with 9Ms or worse would want to fight 2 circle

B-Wings are bomb. (Pun intended.) 🥇

It would be nice to see a Mark II during the New Republic era. That would’ve been more suitable for that bombing run on the First Order’s Dreadnaught

@@isaackim7675 well they are much faster and more likely to survive.......to be honest the bombers there looked more suitable for carpet bombing against unprotected civil settlements rather against dreadnought, so the movie was very weird

​@@isaackim7675that crap the 2nd Generation Rebels fielded in that movie was an eye sore and embarrassing abomination so bad it was a disaster in their reality AND ours alike... MAYBE if they emptied all those of basically anyone an stuffed them full of High Explosives an sent them to Kamikaze that absurdly huge Imp paper football it'd been clever, awesome, funny... An for the most part WORKED.. but even attempting such a thing an showing it is probably way too much to ask for an expect with Disney

@@robertagu5533 That ship would’ve better off for a mining operation

@@robertagu5533 To be honest i enjoyed the first movie.....had some sour points, not once before it was established that Rey had experience with repairing or piloting, so suddenly she can do both was breaking the narrative. I would divided the Abilties between the 3 protagonist, Finn can repair and is good at ground combat, while Poe pilot, Rey would be a beast in melee. Basically also a missed opportunity to portray all likeable.....like Poe, an arrogant hotshot pilot, humbled and learn leadership, Finn a stormtrooper who basically rebelled against his indoctrination and is socially awkward because he hasnt established his moral leaning and Rey an orphan who longed for a family. The first movie wasnt that bad. The second movie pissed me really off, lets introduce new characters, to make them appear capable lets dumb the environment down. Poe became stupid. Finn a coward who run away and needed to be saved. Rey became suddenly a messiah. Third movie was equal hated by me, bassically it could be named "Damage Control", lets retcon everything and make Finn the black wohoo guy. Basically they broke the immersion so much like lets steal Abrahams Star Trek scenes, with flicker jumping. More broken storyline, the deathstar exploded and for some reason its fell mainly intact on the planet etc. To give some fan service lets give Chewie his medal, which kinda mocked Chewies character since everyone in his family is dead. And Rey got promoted from Messiah to half god. Now she is a Palpatine and Skywalker like a very bad rpg character who is half angel and half demon, with superpowers that nobody has and can do everything better than anyone. What i dislike in general that from cinematic standpoint. The second movie was meaningless, they started where they ended. Holdo didnt looked competent, she lost all ships, so why didnt she sacrificed one ship in the beginning and saved us 2h obsolete story. I mean Rogue One is great, we have several good series for Star Wars, but the sequels basically doomed Star Wars. We have now the stupid culture war in Star Wars....star wars means escapism, romance and heroic tales. Andor had this....Mandalorian had this......Rogue One had this. And i cant even try to enjoy the acolyte, because i get crap from several sides....when i say well that isnt great, that is something i enjoyed. Its like a christmas with a very toxic family where everyone scream and put each other down. From Ahsoka i enjoyed Rosario Dawson,Ray Stevenson, Natasha Liu Bordizzo and partially Ivanna Sakhno but really hated this Thrawn and the complete storyline.

Sorry but the Mosquito was quite agile, crews had to be careful with some maneuvers such as being too aggressive with the rudder at high speeds and it having a high landing speed to keep from stalling though recovering from a stall the plane was very forgiving.... but german pilots that were sent to intercept them very often went home frustrated because they couldn't bring it down. It was quite robust considering its method of construction The ARC170 resembles the P61 Black Widow night fighter more than anything

@@celticlad3251 It wasn't as agile at a full combat load, similar to how the ARC-170 is shown. Like, it certainly _could_ fight, it just preferred not to unless at an advantage. The night strike variant, if I read it correctly, with 4x 20 mm cannons, 2x 500 kg bombs, drop tanks with fuel, and an onboard radar, is really similar. Very do-it-all.

Thanks. I hope you clarified it for everyone.

Thank you captain obvious

Thank you so much! I forgot

Man I was so confused

0:00 is the real start thats fake news

It’s unlikely that many big chunks of ships made it past the atmosphere. Though sure, it would’ve made Palpatine look terribly in the public’s eyes

@@hlo695 That was likely why he aranged to be kidnapped during the attack make him look more like the victim and give him a chance to shift the blame

I was gonna comment that but yes, kitty indeed.👍

I think boba acts pretty much as what youd expect. A lot of time has passed and in that time he was being melted alive in agony. He was never a politician and he's not the best leader

Thanks dude I would've never guessed

I'm pretty sure "zed" is just the British way of saying "z." So I'm not sure why Allen says it that way (he doesn't sound very British and it is Z-95).

@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem I know that just translating for out British friends.