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The Arknights RIIC Iceberg - Full Explanation (voice reveal for 1k subs) 

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A glimpse into the cursed depths of Arknights base theory. Thanks for 1k!
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@griin6
@griin6 2 года назад
for anyone who remember a bit of something from the video but don't remember where/what it is 0:51 #r-i-i-c 1:16 252 > 243 1:42 :stonks(nt): 1:57 max right 252 2:23 LS-5 bad 2:48 staggered rotations 3:17 orundum farming 3:37 153 stone eaters 4:07 don't promote jaye 4:32 Peter's MS Paint charts 4:56 EyjaSlug 5:19 Downgradable office pls 6:05 12f Sucks 6:29 Luzark's planner 6:52 base 7:08 R6S infinite morale 7:39 clue bias 8:09 :weehs: 8:32 r/arknights help thread 9:03 sanity value of EXP 9:43 Gamepress comments 10:06 base E2 RoI 10:45 clock 11:17 342 11:54:PureThighs: 12:24 513 13:03 Whisperain bad 14:05 351 14:50 phallic 252 15:13 T2 HH permits 15:46 E1 Jaye + Mr. Nothing 16:19 E1 Jaye Matrix 16:53 Nine-Colore Deer base mats 17:32 friend credit marginal value 18:27 buy Hungs 18:55 r/okbuddyRIICtard 19:18 1 million LMD/day 20:33 Gladiia bug 21:12 Important Drop Rates 21:51 ionized Fiametta 22:54 ST dorm skill targeting 23:28 sanity value of a pull 24:24 ambience to clue search formula 25:07 negative recruitment 25:57 trading post constants 26:48 idle Whisperain 27:18 E2 for paradox orundum 28:04 sanity value of base mats 28:45 furniture rotations 29:19 1660 friend credits 30:04 $20 = 1 apple, 1 orange 30:30 Jaye floating-point error 31:09 swapped office/training room 31:38 trust gain formula 32:12 :PensiveMudrocc: 33:09 rotating 28,794 friends 33:57 vermeil-hell-aug-2
@giuliasteele
@giuliasteele 2 года назад
The best argument for 2/4/3 base is "I don't like seeing rooms not at maxed lvl", maybe even the only argument for it Yep I use 243
@PsyDSha
@PsyDSha 2 года назад
It's the "OCD" argument, and it's perfectly valid - Another 243
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong 2 года назад
Im just too lazy ~Another 243 owner.
@Zero_Shift
@Zero_Shift 2 года назад
It just feels right
@manoi8
@manoi8 2 года назад
"honestly, same" - Another 243 user
@jambasic1400
@jambasic1400 2 года назад
I can agree with having a not max out level for buildings but I do want them to have the same level. Sadly my right is maxed out. So maxed out it is. #243
@zomfgroflmao1337
@zomfgroflmao1337 2 года назад
I never did much min maxing with the base (way too lazy and even having one operator run out of sanity on the job would make perfect min maxing worthless), but as someone with a math background and theoretical interests, these videos are still entertaining to watch. :P
@Mrpomarcus
@Mrpomarcus 2 года назад
I agree lol I am way too lazy to min max stuff but entertaining video nonetheless
@NatiiixLP
@NatiiixLP 2 года назад
Damn, it seems I've been farming LS-5 and running 3-3-3 like an absolute buffoon for over 2 years now. Well, shucks, it is what it is.
@rafituflihzahranalwansyah3601
@rafituflihzahranalwansyah3601 2 года назад
You're not the only one buddy, wish we'd learn this sooner
@NatiiixLP
@NatiiixLP 2 года назад
@@rafituflihzahranalwansyah3601, When I started playing, it was basically right at the start of the global server, so there weren't many materials available on how to play the game, so I had no idea what to do, and the game seemed to suggest that 3-3-3 was a good idea. Some of the efficiency strategies are super insane and counter-intuitive IMO, and the game does nothing to make things clearer for the player.
@squidybear7201
@squidybear7201 2 года назад
I _did not_ expect you to pronouce :weehs: Very cool video, thanks for taking the time to do this.
@PeterYR
@PeterYR 2 года назад
:weehs:
@mamba_kfp
@mamba_kfp 2 года назад
I jumped into the rabbit hole of calc'ing stage efficiencies a while ago, tried to jump into base efficiencies too but realising how complex it was, especially with the original iceberg and now this explanation... I'm glad I'm not the one doing all the thinking Really interesting video, and all of your other guides and scripts for that matter! Thanks a lot!
@Mr_Rhodey
@Mr_Rhodey 2 года назад
Informative and interesting. I appreciate all the time and effort. Also nice voice reveal. Cheers!
@bodehoussehoundekon
@bodehoussehoundekon 2 года назад
the one thing Ive learnt is that no matter how much you min max, someone will min max harder than you so its a good thing AK is a single player game
@drago954
@drago954 2 года назад
Ionized Fiammetta made me do a 180 on my enthusiasm for her banner. great vid and congrats on 1k!!!
@matsuato9415
@matsuato9415 2 года назад
This is amazing. Thank you for all the hard work and dedication. Looking forward to more in the future, cheers!
@kngcrmsn505
@kngcrmsn505 2 года назад
Finally I have been looking for a video like this explaining the base. I just followed what the game told me to do and didn't touch it after, I was so clueless. I just found your channel today and I subscribed after binging a few videos. TY
@tuedo7451
@tuedo7451 7 месяцев назад
peter you’re really good at making these types of videos nice work boss man
@vo42
@vo42 2 года назад
Thanks Peter, and the friends. All your calculations are awesome.
@oldwellenthusiast8750
@oldwellenthusiast8750 Год назад
i appreciate the brevity of your guides, it makes them very easy to share/recommend to new players, but i did like that specific skadi the corrupting heart guide and the user's other guides, they could have certainly have made them a bit shorter but i think they are effective at helping conceptualise the unit's impact and use cases.
@darkvahnor5180
@darkvahnor5180 2 года назад
Discovered from Zafang constant sharing, not sure I will use it cause it's looks like a pain in the butt, really fun and interesting video o/
@tongmbj
@tongmbj Год назад
Holy cow I've been playing the game for 3 years and there's so much more to learn about the Base than I ever expected wtf. Thanks for making this
@stashedinwords448
@stashedinwords448 2 года назад
Subscribed 👍 Nice video!
@pitet2591
@pitet2591 2 года назад
Nice video. Have you thought about making a separate video about Fiammetta base skill?
@PeterYR
@PeterYR 2 года назад
I probably will, when we get closer to her global release.
@Zero_Shift
@Zero_Shift 2 года назад
28:00 I actually do all paradox missions. It's combination of free orundum for leveling units plus the idea of having everyones paradox mission completed. So far I lack 4, because i dont own these 6 star ops. I have everyone else though.
@sibericusthefrosty9950
@sibericusthefrosty9950 2 года назад
On 7:53 about how operators can increase clue frequency from their respective faction regardless of Reception Base, I almost always get at least one Clue 5 if I put an E0 Breeze and Indra. Pretty neat.
@Germoization
@Germoization 2 года назад
Thanks for always taking the time to calculate all things efficiency. Will you be willing to share your current base and operator rotations? and how much LMD and EXP do you get in a day?
@kasai-san7332
@kasai-san7332 2 года назад
and not gonna lie, your voice makes the video more enjoyable
@zylou8643
@zylou8643 Год назад
love this
@dragichav2810
@dragichav2810 2 года назад
Regarding the Rosmontis and Wshisperian shinenigans. Bold of you to assume I have recruitment plans to run all the time. Even if I had unlimited recruitment plans it's not easy to not get 3/3 refreshes cause irl exists.
@ExceedProduction
@ExceedProduction Год назад
I have a 243 setup because I haven't heard about the efficiency issue before it was too late. Now I can't be assed to change it. On one hand I think having a base like this is stupid. On the other hand I like that math nerds can exploit the system to their advantage.
@wasabi926
@wasabi926 Год назад
woh ur voice is cooler than I imagined
@AAAAnca
@AAAAnca 2 года назад
i wish i loved this game enough and was crazy and motivated enough to actually think that it's a viable final thesis subject 2 years ago
@hikigayahachiman3876
@hikigayahachiman3876 11 месяцев назад
Can't believe that I watched it all through
@kitsuneprincess4637
@kitsuneprincess4637 Год назад
A fellow Robin enjoyer, I see!
@kasai-san7332
@kasai-san7332 2 года назад
I started the game a bit before purestream came to global, and i actually bought her because of the charity purpose... needless to say she is one of my favorite medics in the game and i actually use her with weedy and waii fu (since i don't have passenger)
@OmalleyDoc
@OmalleyDoc Год назад
Well. That was all very interesting and I understood about 5% of it. I don't even know how I got here tbh. I had a question about something but that's a half hour in the past and completely buried in apathetic laziness now.
@maniacmohawk5513
@maniacmohawk5513 2 года назад
Now I think about it I left my Kaltsit in the CC room for at least 4 months now…
@ian59
@ian59 2 года назад
I'm kind of surprised you tout Moe so much when his current spreadsheet discourages players from buying recruitment permits and headhunt certificates from the green certificate store. I guess with Neia retired we don't have a better option at the moment. I'm going to have to watch your Fiammetta video to try and understand how the ionization works. I would've assumed that pulling Shamare out mid cycle would reset all of the progress towards increasing the frequency of 2k orders. My testing with Scene showed that any disruption of any kind including just swapping positions totally resets her production bonuses.
@PeterYR
@PeterYR 2 года назад
Regarding Moe's sheet, it was still a huge step for EN farming math, despite those smaller issues. At the time, no one had looked into overall income rates for recruitment permits, so Moe's sheet says "buy only when needed" in case we actually got more permits than we could spend. That's not the case, but that part of the sheet hasn't been updated. Moe's reasoning on HH permits is more questionable, though. Regarding Fiammetta and ramp-up resets: ramp-up skills don't actually reset if you avoid swapping positions. For example, having Scene in slot 1 while removing an operator in slot 2. (Note that removing someone from slot 1 will automatically move the operator in slot 2 to slot 1 and reset ramp-ups. But in this case you can use a "filler" operator in slot 1.) Since Bibeak's skill overrides Shamare's, taking out Shamare won't reset anything. And while Bibeak will reset when using Fiammetta to refresh her, Shamare will provide a smaller boost until Bibeak ramps back up.
@ian59
@ian59 2 года назад
@@PeterYR Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet but I think I understand what to do now. I just need to keep Kafka/Bibeak in slot 1. It seems pretty simple at least. I'm going to go for 300 pulls on Ling so I can try and get Dusk and/or Nian who I am missing still. So hopefully I'll be able to get Fiammetta on her launch banner and not have to wait for a rerun but it will be more based on luck than anything else. Also, 2 notes I have is that if you're planning to E2 all operators no matter what, then E2'ing the base skill operators should have the highest priority. That came to mind for me when you were saying it takes 60 years for their ROI. E2'ing for paradox simulations is a way to add fun content to the game, not just for orundums. Just something to consider for the next glacier video I guess.
@justanotherweirdo11
@justanotherweirdo11 9 месяцев назад
15:00 Worth it though. I converted my fugly 252 to a cross
@mochithepooh5368
@mochithepooh5368 2 года назад
Lol I'm loving 153 meme. I tried it for the meme and it gave me like 12k XP card so I'm prolly good until the end of time.
@yon9906
@yon9906 Год назад
As someone who runs 1-5-3 and have almost all the operators, I feel very called out.
@Zack_Zander
@Zack_Zander Год назад
Relatable
@dozeoff2235
@dozeoff2235 6 месяцев назад
Man, that Vermeil rotation would be nice tho...
@elipothesarcosuchus8758
@elipothesarcosuchus8758 2 года назад
Good vid
@justanotherweirdo11
@justanotherweirdo11 9 месяцев назад
idk how long I used 12F in the control center before I learned he was useless.
@Mrpomarcus
@Mrpomarcus 2 года назад
I idle whisperain soly because I am too lazy to do any Recruit let alone refrash it lol so might as well put whisperain in it for some use
@TheVigilo
@TheVigilo 2 года назад
FIA META
@DylansLappalterCopium
@DylansLappalterCopium Год назад
27:18 I feel personally called out
@jacobhoskinson8960
@jacobhoskinson8960 Год назад
Have you ever thought about making a video explaining stuff like wordly plight and rosmontis' stuff? I have a small brain and even tho I have all my ops at E2, I have no clue what those really do so I don't mess with them
@TheYahbaby
@TheYahbaby 2 года назад
Is there a spreadsheet for base operator combinations for EN that's up to date ?
@inukuri444
@inukuri444 2 года назад
Good video
@Zero_Shift
@Zero_Shift 2 года назад
This isn't an iceberg anymore, this feels like watching a conspiracy video
@Onic14
@Onic14 2 года назад
Based (hah get it X3 ) video right here. Goodo Job 👍
@onepixeleye5303
@onepixeleye5303 Год назад
After watching this I want to back to the simple times when I used 3-3-3
@linyone
@linyone 2 года назад
4:00 wait all of time i using P2W satup but not eating stone but rotated whit 333 satup ,just relays that
@tempota7792
@tempota7792 8 месяцев назад
Too bad its gone now, but the 61 year RoI of E2ing Texas was, ofc, eased by E2ing Texalter, which returned around 60% of Texas's mats. I did almost all the alter rebates before that system was scrapped and damned if I'm not glad. Had to E2 Lappy for fking Stultifera, Exu for funny numbers, so ofc E2ing Texas finally was an easy choice.
@finisherm0ve
@finisherm0ve 2 года назад
Everything has a sanity value if you math hard enough edit:nvm,found it in the desc
@winmen5279
@winmen5279 2 года назад
is it a bug that i can get intelligence from the furniture if i buy 2 of the same one by one.
@dedemastra1799
@dedemastra1799 2 года назад
No wonder it is still in beta. With how much you guys fiddling with it, just what the actual 'release' base will looks like? A base that have more min-maxing stuff and a lot of space for experimentation. It could even be a game. Oh wait! Arknights Enfield! The base could be still in beta until E2 Bibeak pays off. Waiting for Nine-Colored Deer now.
@SeraviSays
@SeraviSays 2 года назад
Base pog
@rafliyaumil8812
@rafliyaumil8812 7 месяцев назад
2023 update: - Phlegyas really did 100 Mil LMD recently. - Fate was dead by Covid.
@w91238
@w91238 2 года назад
ngl from what I've seen the help megathread is generally alright tho? Gamepress comments are another thing entirely, alot of them seem to hate thirst, and everything else as well.
@PeterYR
@PeterYR 2 года назад
To be honest, the megathread had gotten a lot better over time. Go back a year or two and it was a lot worse. Still though, it's inconsistent enough that I would never recommend it to a new player looking for advice.
@xeroxcopy8183
@xeroxcopy8183 Год назад
I really dont understand the min-maxing base All I do on every 7am/7pm UTC+8 are (on a 243 base) - place the almost nearing fatigued 'team' of ops in Dorms -Fiametta + Nine Colored abuse
@ikusa01
@ikusa01 2 года назад
Does farming exp still bad when ls-6 come out?
@PeterYR
@PeterYR 2 года назад
Yes, LS-6 is only a small improvement over LS-5. There's also the new CE-6 that it needs to contend with.
@ikusa01
@ikusa01 2 года назад
@@PeterYR I see. Thank you.
@phlegyasIV
@phlegyasIV 2 года назад
:weehs:
@kurospades861
@kurospades861 2 года назад
where can i get the important drop rates sheet (the new one)
@PeterYR
@PeterYR 2 года назад
I have a link to Moe's farming sheet in the sources pastebin, linked in the description. Ctrl+F for "Moe".
@abyssailant2424
@abyssailant2424 Год назад
What about with ls-6 Is it still preferable to farm ce-6 And having the base produce exp?
@PeterYR
@PeterYR Год назад
Yeah, CE/LS-6 are very small improvements over CE/LS-5. LS stages still suck.
@moonfall425
@moonfall425 2 года назад
Anyone got the link to the discord server? Wanna nerdge
@angtrankien441
@angtrankien441 Год назад
So how good is max right 342?
@anzero5762
@anzero5762 2 года назад
This too complicated for my little brain lol
@CrayonConoisseur
@CrayonConoisseur 4 месяца назад
Add Arknights to the title so more people would click on the video
@mrf143
@mrf143 2 года назад
Arknights true endgame lol
@leosbored
@leosbored 2 года назад
PagMan
@dnomuen
@dnomuen 2 года назад
:weehs:
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