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The Art Introvert’s Guide to Networking with Kristian Nee - Draftsmen S2E34 

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@Draftsmen
@Draftsmen 3 года назад
Crazy Kristian Question Time! You must choose one: You can read people’s minds, but only when they’re thinking bad thoughts about you OR every meal has to be topped with whipped cream.
@twomoledmiddlefinger353
@twomoledmiddlefinger353 3 года назад
I'll choose the latter lol
@zacharyhorvath3615
@zacharyhorvath3615 3 года назад
Reading people’s negative thoughts towards me-I think I’d end up more confident and with a generally more positive opinion of myself because I doubt anyone can top my own self deprecation. Also it would level out my hubris
@latteARCH
@latteARCH 3 года назад
One will test my relationship with humanity, the other gives me more calories *hmm* Serious: people think bad thoughts about others all the time, even the people they care about. There's an interesting manga/anime I read called Kino's Journey, where one chapter the main character visits a town whose residents were 'cursed' to hear the thoughts of others (involuntary telepathy). At first it was nice, but then you hear the minor complaints and nitpicks between each other. Some problems that seem small to one person are huge to another. People tend to pay attention to the negative more than the positive (me included). You hear the thoughts of someone before they perish in a car accident or on their deathbed. People with perverted/unwarranted sexual thoughts. Exams were useless due to cheating. As a result everyone in the town eventually moved to seclusion within their own homes to escape that pain or conflict. So I think there is some beauty in the ambiguity of thoughts and emotions between us. Though there is also a lot of beauty in whipped cream. Decisions, decisions...
@carlosroo5460
@carlosroo5460 3 года назад
I choose the third one, the Billion Dollars to spend on treatment for my hand and invest on research to find a solution for these kinds of health problem... And kick Maduro out of Venezuela.
@leontermolen2356
@leontermolen2356 3 года назад
Whipped cream of course, no doubt!
@professionalgumby
@professionalgumby 3 года назад
this episode is such a 180 from the last one lol, going from an artist who struggled to learn despite not having electricity most nights to a privileged 25 year old who secured a great position in the art industry (without really doing art) by taking the rich and successful to dinners because of the connections his had "ever since he could remember"
@matheus_mth_1003
@matheus_mth_1003 3 года назад
Working for free is not that simple for someone who needs to work a day to eat breakfast in the next one, it's not a critique about Kristian, it's a perspective on the world that i grow up. Many people wished that they had time to expend learning, studying or whatever, but the reality of being poor is too harsh.
@MuneemIslam
@MuneemIslam 3 года назад
We all can agree that Marshall's beard is amazing
@fussilly
@fussilly 3 года назад
As a person who's been in the artworld for quite some time, I find the statement Christian says about hard work and how it separates succesful people from unsuccesful ones quite wrong. From my observations it's not always about hard work. You often have to rely on luck, your will to become a succesful, recognizable artist and you have to know right people. Also people that are born in families connected somehow to art or entertainment or even richer or in country in better economy situation have it a lot easier to gain recognition or allow themselves for education that is unaccessible for "normal" people. Hard work is one thing, but it is not always corelated with success. That's a capitalist myth.
@KristianNeeTV
@KristianNeeTV 3 года назад
Thanks for having me :)
@oxibound5945
@oxibound5945 3 года назад
Kristian, what about a journey to Myanmar? It just west Thailand. Now the military coup just happened and may be you can come around and have some excitement and some apocalyptic vibe. Ha ha just kidding.
@0ia
@0ia 2 года назад
My maan of the skeetchy vaan!
@KristianNeeTV
@KristianNeeTV 2 года назад
@@0ia that’s me!
@reik947
@reik947 3 года назад
This is my favorite podcast at the moment. But something about this episode just doesn’t sit right with me.
@fransende
@fransende 3 года назад
Bruh, I'm so introvert I would rather spend 30min looking for a product on the market, then asking someone of the staff where it is
@twomoledmiddlefinger353
@twomoledmiddlefinger353 3 года назад
I'd rather not tho since it's faster to look for something you want if u just ask
@zacharyhorvath3615
@zacharyhorvath3615 3 года назад
Lol-Ohhh, how I can relate. I spent an hour aimlessly walking the isles of Michaels to see if they had any acrylic paint markers that weren’t behind glass (I shockingly found one), before spending 20 minutes trying to find a clerk to help me with what I needed😣
@mf--
@mf-- 3 года назад
Asking questions is a skill that can be learned. It takes effort but can be done.
@BigDomski
@BigDomski 3 года назад
I was at a supermarket today and that's prettt much what I did. Spend about 10 minutes without even finding it in the end 😂😂😂
@yeoldegrayCat
@yeoldegrayCat 3 года назад
I've done this, walked past all the aisles, couldn't find what I was looking for and had to ask at the end but was very tempted to just leave without it.
@klawzee
@klawzee 3 года назад
I'm a bit sad about this vid for someone who's really introverted and looking to network. It's not really a guide but a bunch of stories I wish I could have done or gotten to do. Its entertaining nonetheless.
@damirakhairi3391
@damirakhairi3391 3 года назад
Agreed. This guy is more of a social networker than an introvert. Doesnt help for me. Basically an extrovert lol
@bloodnessx
@bloodnessx 2 года назад
Yeh... the things he do and live is too taxing for an introvert.. I hear no breathing room of him talking about introvertness either... its straight to the realm of extrovert
@TheOneRioji
@TheOneRioji 3 года назад
This title alone speaks volumes for me.
@knottyed5259
@knottyed5259 3 года назад
Pun intended
@ellahopkinson
@ellahopkinson 2 года назад
I used to not be able to take advice from people who I perceived to have come from a more privileged background than me, but I think that feeling just comes from jealousy. Whilst, yes people's experiences shape their opinions, so I might argue that hard work doesn't make as much of a difference as money and nepotism, that's only based on what I've seen and others opinions are based on what they have seen. Now I can look past differences in opinions like that and see the value in other people's views even if they've lived a very different life to me, I can still follow the general advice even if not some specific things like road trips etc. The core ideas and life philosophy seem really positive, I think of karma quite often and try yo treat others as I would like to be treated. Thanks for the video, it was great, shame some people have left some bitter sounding comments
@Alex-jx8ez
@Alex-jx8ez 2 года назад
wish I was in a position to network and work for people for free, what a ridiculously privileged position to be in, must be nice
@diananicoletti101
@diananicoletti101 3 года назад
Hey guys, you do a great job with this podcast and videos, and the information in this one was insightful, too. However, you r title is misleading. Maybe Kris is a people-oriented introvert, but for the vast number of introverts who are thing/data-oriented rather than people-oriented, this misses the mark. How about renaming it: A Guide to Networking with Kristin Nee...
@diananicoletti101
@diananicoletti101 3 года назад
(sorry for my typos)
@ishheredia9626
@ishheredia9626 3 года назад
This guy's about as much of an introvert as I am rich. This episode and this kid's "insights" can get bent
@sonseraedesigns7167
@sonseraedesigns7167 3 года назад
I loved this podcast!!! I have the same philosophy. I grew up and went to a private university in Malibu And lived and studied in Europe. I worked hard and became an artist at Walt Disney Studios and a bunch of other studios in the entertainment industry. Then I had to leave an abusive marriage and found myself hiding for a year and a half . I became homeless and hungry but every day was such a learning experience. I lost 50 pounds from hunger and I was able to see things from a completely different side. I spent the next year and a half talking with homeless people and sleeping in my car and a tent and hearing their stories and somehow I was always taken care of. I never took drugs or alcohol and stayed sober. God always took care of me. I found my purpose and now I have a nonprofit to help people heal from trauma and PTSD through the arts. I also teach kids art. This is way more fulfilling than working at a studio as an artist. I’m actually seeing people’s lives change for the better. I am an Optimistic person who has a lot of faith And even when I lost everything, I saw everything as a new opportunity of learning where as someone else would see it as a terrible horrible thing. Not to say that I didn’t have times of horrible discouragement but I truly felt like I was supposed to be there for a reason. To learn and to grow and to help others do the same. By the way, I’m in OC And would love to take Marshall’s classes!!
@KiX-K4T13
@KiX-K4T13 3 года назад
I'm glad to know more of the crew names of Proko! And they're totally interesting people too! 😂 "renting out a theater to watch Troll 2" lmao. Great times. Also, Kristian is just life. The embodiment of life.
@kermitthetoad9093
@kermitthetoad9093 3 года назад
Stan looks a bit different today...
@xcoe
@xcoe 3 года назад
I'm surprised Marshal has the time to do this podcast, considering his commitment to being a mall Santa Claus
@deebonash4487
@deebonash4487 3 года назад
Bruh 🤣
@bonlynx
@bonlynx 3 года назад
My life has been nothing but me helping people and no one ever reciprocating. Also must be nice to be able to just work for free. 🙄 Most people don't have that privelege.
@bethsleepien9817
@bethsleepien9817 3 года назад
Haha I would help people (for free! and with a positive attitude) and they would get angry when I didn't do even more. Like, yelling at me calling me a bad friend/family because I "wouldn't help them and am selfish" (after helping them a lot, for hours and hours and hours). And it didn't just happen once or twice, it was consistent. I'm starting to think this whole "just help people and you'll be happy and your life will improve!" is spread by people who are lucky, giving thoughtless advice, or want more people they can use. :/ I think people get used to you giving for free and it makes them view you as valueless or that they're doing you a favor or something since you must not have anything else to do if you're helping them for free you poor thing 🙄
@xoxdid
@xoxdid 3 года назад
@@bethsleepien9817 I think one must be selective about who they help. Obviously if the relationship is one sided and just sucking the life out of you, I don't think you should be continuing to invest in it. I don't think it's about being selfless, it must be more about growing as people together.
@evindrews
@evindrews 3 года назад
I have to agree a bit. I think Kristian has found a groove himself and while I can't make any actual introspections, I don't know anything about him, but he seems very lucky. It's also frustrating he seems to promote to work for free, but many others don't have that privilege. (and for employers I don't think it's cool to let people work for free, I think it sets a dangerous precedent and just look at unpaid internships - they have lots of rules or are illegal in some places for a reason)
@bloodnessx
@bloodnessx 2 года назад
When I heard he was working for proko for free, shows he already had a very privilege and healthy life. For alot of others, it's an massive struggle that you would never think about doing something for "free"
@BigDomski
@BigDomski 3 года назад
Kristian is the kinda guy that I aspire to be more like, but struggle tremendously with it. I'm only 24 but for the past 3 years or so, I forgot what it's like to have dreams... It pains my heart to say it, but I regret too much about my life and see almost everything up to now as completely pointless. I've been feeling a lack of will to do anything with myself, which hurts me even more after being a very focused kid with a strong work ethic before that. Kristian is probably not reading these, but I wanted to thank him for being a genuinely good, open-minded human being who's not afraid to stay curious and follow his dreams.
@Draftsmen
@Draftsmen 3 года назад
24 is so young! Keep dreaming and start working towards your goals day by day.
@KristianNeeTV
@KristianNeeTV 3 года назад
Hey Domo, thanks for listening and thanks for the kind words. Listen man, life is hard and sometimes things seem like they won't get better. In my experience they always do. We're both extremely young, and it is never too late to do the things you really want to do. Feel free to email me through my site if you're interested in chatting sometime. Would love to pick your brain a bit.
@BigDomski
@BigDomski 3 года назад
@@Draftsmen Thank you for the encouragement guys, you really do a lot for me with these podcasts 🙏
@BigDomski
@BigDomski 3 года назад
@@KristianNeeTV @Kristian Nee OH hey man! Thank you for the response, I really appreciate the inspiration and encouragement to just keep at it. I'll be sure to write you an email!
@0ia
@0ia 2 года назад
@@BigDomski hope you are doing well, get on track!
@ravenburneskushner1825
@ravenburneskushner1825 3 года назад
That was fun! I still don't know how to network, but I enjoyed this exchange. :)
@ChairWithScoliosis
@ChairWithScoliosis 3 года назад
hope youre all paying attention, you need a wealthy family, have people that know your family sponsor you at their school, and be able to have dinners with multimillionaires
@professionalgumby
@professionalgumby 3 года назад
what pisses me off the most is when he says that if you're working a certain career and if youre not happy with it if they arent paying you for it, you should just leave and pursue something else. idk if this dude understands that most people just cant do that and that theyre only option is to move up in that career or they dont have anything else. i fucking hate it when rich people tell the working class to "just follow your dreams and youll be rich" when the reality is most of the population dont have the privilege to step out of their current job to chase something that isnt guaranteed
@definitelynotnick2454
@definitelynotnick2454 3 года назад
yeah, totally out of touch lol
@TheCoookieCrumb
@TheCoookieCrumb 3 года назад
What i heard is... step out of your comfort zone, a curious and positive attitude can open doors that sinisism never will, be honest with yourself and what you really want out life, dont focus on just materialistic things, open yourself to life without jugment and with enthusiasm, work hard at the things that speak to you and success will follow.
@ChairWithScoliosis
@ChairWithScoliosis 3 года назад
@@TheCoookieCrumb yeah you didnt pay attention to the part where he said he helped him get his class running so he could get a free class from marshall. take what what said/ this part and look up cynicism. but i am happy you found a positive from part of what hes saying, but regular people dont have the opportunities he has not even a little
@professionalgumby
@professionalgumby 3 года назад
@@TheCoookieCrumb sad reality is that the majority of people who can actually use that mindset are people with the privilege to do so, most people HAVE to focus on the "materialistic" to put food on their plate and pay their bills
@happily_imperfect_sketches
@happily_imperfect_sketches 3 года назад
Love the podcast, but this one is poorly named - the name and the contrast to the content imply that introverts are inadequate and should just be extroverts. While it is good to stretch your boundaries, why can’t extroverts embrace just a little that some people don’t feel the same way about people and are different to them?
@isamepython
@isamepython 3 года назад
I had so much joy from this episode, thank you.
@gianlucadesisto6058
@gianlucadesisto6058 3 года назад
Who else is hearing Chef Gordon, and thinking he lives a alternative lifestyle?
@alfiealpha
@alfiealpha 3 года назад
what a genuine human being Kristian is
@tanyapineda7212
@tanyapineda7212 3 года назад
"All of this independence coming together in unity". Cool. This was so interesting, uplifting, optimistic & fun. So much of my personal philosophy validated. Thank you! Just discovering Proko. Wow.
@joschuaknuppe5849
@joschuaknuppe5849 3 года назад
Marshall looks more and more like Santa
@mark_tolver
@mark_tolver 3 года назад
Yeah, that beard growth is definitely giving him the Father Christmas vibe. Come to think of it, Stan could definitely pass as one of his elves. 😁
@Rook818
@Rook818 3 года назад
I kept thinking Kristian reminded me of the guy from the movie "Into the Wild". Then I see "Into the Wild" is on his book list.
@yohenson
@yohenson 3 года назад
isnt that movie where the guy ended dying alone in a bus, writing his final words that joy should be shared and not hoarded?
@AnneliLMendozaArt
@AnneliLMendozaArt 11 месяцев назад
I can’t find that list anymore 😢
@crgaming8102
@crgaming8102 3 года назад
Two things: 1.Marshall can you talk about every book you have and tell us the things you liked and the things you didn't like about it. Also this should not be only artbooks. 2.Can you make a video with Alan Lee ?
@AndrewMaksymBrainNectar
@AndrewMaksymBrainNectar 3 года назад
^
@HenrikLarssonArt
@HenrikLarssonArt 3 года назад
- Ok, i hope i get through here, anyhow, you always talk about community as an important thing to grow as an artist etc. My problem is, and have been from early teen, i'm autistic and with that i have lived most of my life with social phobia and agoraphobia - What tools in addition to the obvious ones, whould you Marchall and Stan use, to grow as an artist without social interaction? Thank you for everything.
@dmcupitty
@dmcupitty 3 года назад
Man Marshall is the man!
@samdeacon7910
@samdeacon7910 3 года назад
Sorry but I had to say out of all the draftsmen episodes this was the least helpful. Don't get me wrong I love the show and watch every episode. Just this one... I got nothing from. Personally
@heyryanisonx3141
@heyryanisonx3141 3 года назад
We finally meet the final boss of networking :0
@leordonez
@leordonez 3 года назад
1:11:34 is pure gold haha
@TheCoookieCrumb
@TheCoookieCrumb 3 года назад
The snaps at the end. 😆 Creatives goofing around. Loved it! I also really like the idea of asking weird trivial questions. I dont like/suck at small talk but i worry about putting people off by getting to deep. I end up never knowing what to say to people but i like this way of getting a convo started. It feels like a non threatening way of avoiding talking about the weather.🖒
@62LeftyBlues
@62LeftyBlues 3 года назад
Hi Marshall! Very much enjoying your guests. Great stuff, keep it up please. Thanks
@JonJagsNee
@JonJagsNee 3 года назад
YEAH KRISTIAN! PROUD OF YOU!
@KiX-K4T13
@KiX-K4T13 3 года назад
This is proof, and Donald Glover and Bruce Lee said something similar, but "people set their own limits" is the gist. Those men either have no limits, or set the bar higher than they can reach. What does that mean? Well for instance, Kristian here just got in his Camry and drove across the country. Then he biked for roughly 300 miles in about 6 days. How did he do that? He didn't say "no, I'm good" or "oh I can't because of commitments". He never said no. That's the fine line between successful people and you. If you aren't where you want to be, then you need to look at what you're doing wrong. Are you really doing everything you can? I wasn't honest about a year ago. I was drawing, but not seriously. Now I'm putting money into lessons, I have incentive to work hard and I'm seeing vast improvements. Because I'm working a full time job, approx 12 hours of hard work at UPS, then I come home eat, shower and draw till I have to sleep. I get 4-6 hours of solid drawing done. Not much sleep, but I don't have time to screw around. Not anymore. I want the pain. I want the reward. Let's keep going. Come with me, damn it!
@hellomint4028
@hellomint4028 3 года назад
This type of mentality not only leads to success but also physical harm. Whats the point of improving when all ur efforts get thwarted aside by a jacked wrist/spine/neck? Make sure to get more sleep and take regular breaks.
@kullenberg
@kullenberg 3 года назад
@@hellomint4028 yes, sacrificing sleep is directly counter productive when you are learning. Better to draw less if it means a full night's sleep.There's something very alluring with the grinding mindset that speaks to a lot of people but you need to be smart about hard work.
@KristianNeeTV
@KristianNeeTV 3 года назад
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for listening :) It sounds like you're on your own adventure! Keep it up, you'll start seeing results in no time
@TheCof6656
@TheCof6656 3 года назад
I'm always so happy seeing Marshal. He has such a positive face. Also, Kristian is german? Wow! I couldn't hear a thing, and I'm german. Or does he just live there?
@MarkWhippy
@MarkWhippy 3 года назад
44:21 That painting from Jeff Watts is just stunning :O
@ranggonkingsbornemangaproj9506
@ranggonkingsbornemangaproj9506 2 года назад
marshal looked like santa that hooked on yoga and keto diet
@goodmoe-jo9208
@goodmoe-jo9208 3 года назад
This one was a refreshing change of pace - not so much on art and technique, but everything to do with success! Thanks guys!
@ArningEchanoPH
@ArningEchanoPH 3 года назад
I had to stop the video and check what's 300 miles in kilometers haha
@ciscoponch67
@ciscoponch67 3 года назад
Finally it's that infamous Knight who says.......
@hanjoe7646
@hanjoe7646 3 года назад
Marhsall trying to get that Santa looks
@PizzaGravy
@PizzaGravy 3 года назад
when Kristian mentioned weezer, yes go off king
@syverlauritz
@syverlauritz 3 года назад
Ah yes, because introverts are famously genuinely curious about people.
@aeoligarlic4024
@aeoligarlic4024 2 года назад
Well i am curious about people, in a stalkerish way that is
@shapecarver
@shapecarver 3 года назад
🚴‍♂️⚔
@0ia
@0ia 2 года назад
Hell yea!!
@alphinart
@alphinart 3 года назад
Buddy Holly from the blue album! 🤘
@PrimoDirt
@PrimoDirt 3 года назад
What was the book recommended? Something about "Investing"?
@AS-rk5vb
@AS-rk5vb 3 года назад
The neverending coffee, it's the Golden Goose.
@slop5310
@slop5310 3 года назад
This is exactly what I needed to hear. Kristian's take on things is very insightful.
@apeeatape
@apeeatape 3 года назад
Magical! Thank you guys for that! Kristian is indeed a very wise man.
@jeroen9637
@jeroen9637 3 года назад
51:20 Nope, any peanut butter with chocolate sprinkles on top is superior.
@richirare
@richirare 3 года назад
Why is Repin's portrait of Mussorgsky attributed to Ben Young at 44:28?
@fernandocamarillo3710
@fernandocamarillo3710 3 года назад
I’ve never been this early. This podcast is very helpful and where’s Stan?
@Xenrys
@Xenrys 3 года назад
Stan's on paternity leave.
@fernandocamarillo3710
@fernandocamarillo3710 3 года назад
@@Xenrys ah okay
@capritsuno2885
@capritsuno2885 3 года назад
Wasn't expecting a Troll 2 reference
@PrimoDirt
@PrimoDirt 3 года назад
Does Kristian Know more people or Gavin Rich?
@hichamlaaberi9169
@hichamlaaberi9169 3 года назад
I just needed to be the first to comment, love from Morocco
@yevmann
@yevmann 3 года назад
kristian is cool
@yvonneoy3124
@yvonneoy3124 3 года назад
He's an old soul
@blessedandbiwithahintofmagic
The legendary Kristian, I finally get to see him, thanks, Marshall Vandriff!
@randominternetuser2
@randominternetuser2 3 года назад
Is Kristian related to Leffen? Looks like him and sort of sounds like him too.
@joe4570
@joe4570 3 года назад
Ayy
@deebonash4487
@deebonash4487 3 года назад
The smash player?
@zedzedlika8943
@zedzedlika8943 3 года назад
Stan must make an epic entrance when he comes back only if this comment is before he comes back
@ellahopkinson
@ellahopkinson 2 года назад
The most shocking fact of this whole podcast is that Americans do not have sticky toffee pudding :o
@Vgladstone1
@Vgladstone1 3 года назад
Did you realize there are gun ads on your video?
@bethsleepien9817
@bethsleepien9817 3 года назад
They don't decide or even get notified what ads will run. That's how all of youtube is. I pay 10$ per month and I see NO ads. For sure worth it to me.
@kullenberg
@kullenberg 3 года назад
@@bethsleepien9817 or just use a free adblocker
@bethsleepien9817
@bethsleepien9817 3 года назад
​@@kullenberg great idea, that works too!
@royghosn18
@royghosn18 3 года назад
Wasian?
@maletu
@maletu 3 месяца назад
Nice, but networking from the perspective of a flaming extravert, I'd say.
@primeape6431
@primeape6431 3 года назад
Is Charlie using cctv ? Just kidding luv u
@SPBHJ
@SPBHJ 3 года назад
Camry saquuuad
@mayukhdey8737
@mayukhdey8737 3 года назад
F
@mikkelmelby
@mikkelmelby 3 года назад
Kris is 25... im 25... he has 25 times better attitude than me!
@KristianNeeTV
@KristianNeeTV 3 года назад
Haha, thanks! Nice stuff on your channel by the way, keep it up!
@mikkelmelby
@mikkelmelby 3 года назад
@@KristianNeeTV Lol ty! Check out my IG Memelby for the up keeping :D Thanks alot for the episode, you should be more on camera with ur crazy questions and reflections! Karma and curiosity is my biggest takeaways...oh yeah, that booklist you mentioned should probably be read!
@flymachine
@flymachine 3 года назад
You totally had me until you started bad-mouthing Apple and criticizing Apple users as somehow having sold out, or as an example of how rich people can only have gotten their wealth or possessions by selling out!! I understand the concept but don't be so judgemental of those who have nice things, as an artist who struggled for the first 10-15 years of his career if not more (depends on what you define as 'struggled') I am proud of what I achieved and what it allowed me to buy and own most of which to better my art, I can not imagine being able to do what I do without my gadgets and tools. I am convinced your young age is showing here - a nieve outlook that the world should be rainbows and butterflies that typically changes with maturity. As an openly Christian person, you should consider what you're saying more carefully.
@flymachine
@flymachine 3 года назад
I was probably taken back by your comments but all in all it was great to 'meet' you and get to know the Proko team a bit more. Sorry if my comments were harsh but I felt it had to be said - perhaps you can clarify if I got it wrong.
@KristianNeeTV
@KristianNeeTV 3 года назад
Hey Darren, great to meet you. I think you have a fair point. I’d love to continue the conversation through email if you reach out to me on my site. Thanks
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